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Ran a 10k in June (4 Viewers)

I'm waiting to go for my 8-12 miles until 8-9 PM, when it's "only" supposed to be in the low 80s. :rolleyes:
Ended up having a really good run despite the heat. Did the first six in 47:51 and the last six in 45:50, knocking out the last three miles in 7:39, 7:30, and 7:27. Was running right around 7:00 pace when I finished. Overall average for the 12 was 7:49.I'll do an easy 8 tomorrow, and then I'm doing a little mini-taper in preparation for the 10K on Saturday. SRD on Thursday and just a little 3-mile shakeout run on Friday. Weather is looking really good for the race, with temps at the gun currently forecast at 51 degrees. I'd love to go sub-39, but I'm hoping that I can at least break 39:30.
 
I'm waiting to go for my 8-12 miles until 8-9 PM, when it's "only" supposed to be in the low 80s. :rolleyes:
Ended up having a really good run despite the heat. Did the first six in 47:51 and the last six in 45:50, knocking out the last three miles in 7:39, 7:30, and 7:27. Was running right around 7:00 pace when I finished. Overall average for the 12 was 7:49.I'll do an easy 8 tomorrow, and then I'm doing a little mini-taper in preparation for the 10K on Saturday. SRD on Thursday and just a little 3-mile shakeout run on Friday. Weather is looking really good for the race, with temps at the gun currently forecast at 51 degrees. I'd love to go sub-39, but I'm hoping that I can at least break 39:30.
I know how hot it was yesterday, and going to be today. Major props for running this week, especially that volume! I'll feel happy with my 4 I'm dropping at lunch today! At least the weekend here looks better like G said, will make the weekend workouts and races solid.
 
I'm waiting to go for my 8-12 miles until 8-9 PM, when it's "only" supposed to be in the low 80s. :rolleyes:
Ended up having a really good run despite the heat. Did the first six in 47:51 and the last six in 45:50, knocking out the last three miles in 7:39, 7:30, and 7:27. Was running right around 7:00 pace when I finished. Overall average for the 12 was 7:49.I'll do an easy 8 tomorrow, and then I'm doing a little mini-taper in preparation for the 10K on Saturday. SRD on Thursday and just a little 3-mile shakeout run on Friday. Weather is looking really good for the race, with temps at the gun currently forecast at 51 degrees. I'd love to go sub-39, but I'm hoping that I can at least break 39:30.
:thumbup: GL on Saturday!
 
It is over 100 here and I am starting to sniff smoke in the air from the wild fires out here. I did 2.49 slow miles. I kept my avg HR in the 150s. I dont feel like I did much other then trying to acclimate myself. This 24/55 plan is scaring me and I know I have to do a good 2-3 mos of it in serious heat.
What 24/55 plan are you doing?
 
SDO today. My 5-mile run yesterday was surprisingly decent despite being 90 or so with sustained 25 mph winds. I did the last couple of miles at about HMP, so I think I'm starting to get my legs back to some extent.

Our local 10K is next Friday night, but I don't think I'm going to be ready for an actual race by then. I'll see how I feel this time next week and maybe I'll register on-site if I feel like I have a chance to PR.

 
Felt wonderful outside this morning after a fierce lightening storm passed over last night. Temp was 76 and humidity was low compared to what it normally is. Ran 3 miles in 28:25. Getting faster.

 
Not that I'm even considering doing it, but I figure this is the correct place to put this...the first Ironman in and around NYC will be next year. Registration begins June 15 and according to Bloomberg it will probably cost $1000. Oh its also in August, so figure 90+ degree weather with significant humidity.

It looks like you get to swim across the Hudson, which may or may not be problematic depending on the tides. For the bike route, it looks like they will be closing the Palisades for two loops (the start is actually going to be ##### since the first mile or so will be a pretty signifigant climb out of the state park. The run also looks to be really hard as you get to go up and back hilly River Road twice (there's at least 3 good climbs on each 4 mile leg there...there's basically no flat ground for the first 16 miles), but at least it will be in shade the entire time. The transition off the GW will be interesting since you'll have to cross traffic (I guess they are closing the GW, but they don't really say that). Looks to be a very hard course especially in the heat.

 
Not that I'm even considering doing it, but I figure this is the correct place to put this...the first Ironman in and around NYC will be next year. Registration begins June 15 and according to Bloomberg it will probably cost $1000. Oh its also in August, so figure 90+ degree weather with significant humidity.
If you send me $750, I'll kick you in the nuts. You'll come out $250 ahead in this scenario.
 
Not that I'm even considering doing it, but I figure this is the correct place to put this...the first Ironman in and around NYC will be next year. Registration begins June 15 and according to Bloomberg it will probably cost $1000. Oh its also in August, so figure 90+ degree weather with significant humidity.
If you send me $750, I'll kick you in the nuts. You'll come out $250 ahead in this scenario.
:lol:
 
Figured I'd pop my head back in here and give you guys an update. I've been training pretty hard over the past couple of months or so, trying to get ready for Macon, and haven't really had a chance to post. Lots of riding/running over the past month, maxing out at long rides of 58 miles and long runs of 15-16, attempting to get acclimated to the heat.

Anyways, on the RR, which is what you're probably interested in anyways. Macon (the Rock N Rollman 70.3) has a reputation of being a tough course, made tougher by the heat. As a matter of fact, i was speaking with a friend of mine that KQ'd last year and who went 3rd OA at Macon last year, and he said that it was by far the toughest 70.3 course in the south. Great - just what I'd pick for a first HIM :) . My overall goal was to finish under 6 hrs, as that would leave me a 40 minute swim/3 hr bike/2 hr half, with a few minutes in T1/T2, with 10-12 minutes to spare.

Got down to Macon on Friday night with my wife and a friend (I live in Atlanta, about an hour north) for the mandatory bike checkin and packet pickup. Got everything squared away, met up with a couple other folks I knew down there, grabbed some dinner, readied nutrition, and headed to bed.

Saturday morning - got the the race site about 5:45ish for a 7:00 start. I got body marked, threw on some sun screen and headed to the start. Swim was a wave start, with elites going first at 7:00 am and my wave (M 39 & under) at 7:03. Start wasn't too rough, with abuot 50 guys in my wave, so the washing machine effect not bad. Unfortunately, however, my normal goggles had broken in a training swim about a week earlier, and I had grabbed my two backup pairs to bring down to the race. The pair I selected to wear had broken somehow, and I didn't notice it until I was 50 m into the water, and my right eye started filling up with water. After about 500 m, I seriously considered turning around and going back, taking a DNF. I had to stop and empty it approximately every 30 seconds for the remainder of the race, which really crushed my dreams of going sub-40 in the swim. I did struggle a little to stay comfy on the swim but not just completely relaxed. I wanted to put out a good effort but keep things under control from a energy expenditure stand point. That pace was a little tough to find. I think I picked it up towards the end and probably could have swam that pace the entire swim. Swim time 46:57 (watch time 44:59), which included a long run up a pretty big hill to T1.

T1 - I had purchased a spare tube, which I don't normally carry, for the race, just in case. I didn't want to be stuck 30 miles from civilization with a flat. It was sitting in my right rear bottle holder. I had a bottle of concentrated Infinit (approximately 345 calories) on my downtube, and had a 3-gel plan with Infinit supplement for the bike. Started with 20 oz of water in the aerobottle. My plan was to take a minute in T1, settle myself down after the swim, and get ready for a long 3 hrs on the bike. All that worked fine, grabbed a drink of Gatorade, and headed out. T1 time 2:17. Slower than my normal sprint/oly transitions, but that was the plan.

Bike - Started off ominously, similar to the swim. After 100 yards, I realized my back tire was caught on something. I originally thought i had a flat, so I stopped and looked down. Of course, the spare tube had fallen off and wrapped itself around my rear derailleur and wheel. So, it took a minute to untangle, fold the tube back up, and stuck down the back of my shorts. Off again for another 100 yards, until I hit a bump and my aerobottle popped out. Stopped to retrieve - disaster averted at the cost of another couple of minutes jerry-rigging it back into place. After that, the bike was pretty uneventful. Slow and steady pace for the first 30 miles or so, felt pretty good. Last 10 miles were rough - the course profile looked like there was a pretty big hill at mile 46-48, and then a big downhill pretty much all the way to the bike finish. I don't know who drew the course profile, but I'm pretty sure that there was no downhill. I kept looking for it, but I think it didn't exist. Nutrition overall went well - took a gel at about mile 5, mile 25, mile 40, with Infinit to supplement. Drank water to thirst, got a new waterbottle at handups at mile 15/30/45. Bike time 3:09:49.

T2 - Actually I was worried about how my legs would feel coming off the bike, as I'd not gotten any 56 mile bikes/run bricks done before the race. But, shockingly enough, I felt pretty good. Similar to T1, I took a minute to grab some gatorade, reapply sunscreen, etc. So, it's a slower T2 than I'd have at a sprint/oly (I'm usually in the 45 second range), I felt pretty good about it. T2 time 2:58

Run - Ginormous blowup. I am not a super-fast runner, but I think I hold my own, and I generally consider running to be the best of the 3 sports for me. My half marathon times generally fall in the 1:52-1:55 range. After leaving T2, I waved to the wifey, and headed out. It was hot. And by hot, I mean super hot. BT race reports from the prior year say that if you're in the shade, you're off the course, and they were right. 97 degrees. No shade. High humidity. It took about a mile before I had my first cramp. After that, it was a sufferfest for the rest of the race. Run/walk combo as much as possible, hitting the aid stations located approximately every mile (which were staffed by super volunteers, by the way) as much as possible for ice/rags/water/gels/endurolytes. I had never taken endurolytes before, but after the first cramps I realized I was enormously salt-deficient, and had to do something to address. 2 Endurolytes at aid station 1/2/4 helped a bit, but there was no getting over the cramps. Run time was a huge disappointment - 2:29:05, for a total time of 6:31:04. Very disappointing considering my overall goal.

Overall - good race, great volunteers. I'm disappointed with my overall time, as I thought my general fitness level was much more indicative of about 6 hrs. However, I've already resolved myself to go back next year, with a better understanding of the race and an amended nutrition plan, to hammer out a sub-6. But, I finished, and in one piece (which was what my wife cared about).

Next for me - a couple sprints/olympic distance races in June/July, with the Peachtree Road Race 7/4, and the Augusta 70.3 in September being my next "A" race.

 
Three Thousand - congrats on completing the HIM! When you get to that distance, it can be a real hit or miss, similar to a marathon. Add in the weather conditions as another element of unpredictability. I've completed two HIMs under 6:00, and had two others on awful days like you describe where I DNF'ed by not even trying the run. We live, we learn! Congrats again ..HIM's are a tremendous challenge.

 
Figured I'd pop my head back in here and give you guys an update. I've been training pretty hard over the past couple of months or so, trying to get ready for Macon, and haven't really had a chance to post. Lots of riding/running over the past month, maxing out at long rides of 58 miles and long runs of 15-16, attempting to get acclimated to the heat.Anyways, on the RR, which is what you're probably interested in anyways. Macon (the Rock N Rollman 70.3) has a reputation of being a tough course, made tougher by the heat. As a matter of fact, i was speaking with a friend of mine that KQ'd last year and who went 3rd OA at Macon last year, and he said that it was by far the toughest 70.3 course in the south. Great - just what I'd pick for a first HIM :) . My overall goal was to finish under 6 hrs, as that would leave me a 40 minute swim/3 hr bike/2 hr half, with a few minutes in T1/T2, with 10-12 minutes to spare.Got down to Macon on Friday night with my wife and a friend (I live in Atlanta, about an hour north) for the mandatory bike checkin and packet pickup. Got everything squared away, met up with a couple other folks I knew down there, grabbed some dinner, readied nutrition, and headed to bed. Saturday morning - got the the race site about 5:45ish for a 7:00 start. I got body marked, threw on some sun screen and headed to the start. Swim was a wave start, with elites going first at 7:00 am and my wave (M 39 & under) at 7:03. Start wasn't too rough, with abuot 50 guys in my wave, so the washing machine effect not bad. Unfortunately, however, my normal goggles had broken in a training swim about a week earlier, and I had grabbed my two backup pairs to bring down to the race. The pair I selected to wear had broken somehow, and I didn't notice it until I was 50 m into the water, and my right eye started filling up with water. After about 500 m, I seriously considered turning around and going back, taking a DNF. I had to stop and empty it approximately every 30 seconds for the remainder of the race, which really crushed my dreams of going sub-40 in the swim. I did struggle a little to stay comfy on the swim but not just completely relaxed. I wanted to put out a good effort but keep things under control from a energy expenditure stand point. That pace was a little tough to find. I think I picked it up towards the end and probably could have swam that pace the entire swim. Swim time 46:57 (watch time 44:59), which included a long run up a pretty big hill to T1. T1 - I had purchased a spare tube, which I don't normally carry, for the race, just in case. I didn't want to be stuck 30 miles from civilization with a flat. It was sitting in my right rear bottle holder. I had a bottle of concentrated Infinit (approximately 345 calories) on my downtube, and had a 3-gel plan with Infinit supplement for the bike. Started with 20 oz of water in the aerobottle. My plan was to take a minute in T1, settle myself down after the swim, and get ready for a long 3 hrs on the bike. All that worked fine, grabbed a drink of Gatorade, and headed out. T1 time 2:17. Slower than my normal sprint/oly transitions, but that was the plan.Bike - Started off ominously, similar to the swim. After 100 yards, I realized my back tire was caught on something. I originally thought i had a flat, so I stopped and looked down. Of course, the spare tube had fallen off and wrapped itself around my rear derailleur and wheel. So, it took a minute to untangle, fold the tube back up, and stuck down the back of my shorts. Off again for another 100 yards, until I hit a bump and my aerobottle popped out. Stopped to retrieve - disaster averted at the cost of another couple of minutes jerry-rigging it back into place. After that, the bike was pretty uneventful. Slow and steady pace for the first 30 miles or so, felt pretty good. Last 10 miles were rough - the course profile looked like there was a pretty big hill at mile 46-48, and then a big downhill pretty much all the way to the bike finish. I don't know who drew the course profile, but I'm pretty sure that there was no downhill. I kept looking for it, but I think it didn't exist. Nutrition overall went well - took a gel at about mile 5, mile 25, mile 40, with Infinit to supplement. Drank water to thirst, got a new waterbottle at handups at mile 15/30/45. Bike time 3:09:49. T2 - Actually I was worried about how my legs would feel coming off the bike, as I'd not gotten any 56 mile bikes/run bricks done before the race. But, shockingly enough, I felt pretty good. Similar to T1, I took a minute to grab some gatorade, reapply sunscreen, etc. So, it's a slower T2 than I'd have at a sprint/oly (I'm usually in the 45 second range), I felt pretty good about it. T2 time 2:58Run - Ginormous blowup. I am not a super-fast runner, but I think I hold my own, and I generally consider running to be the best of the 3 sports for me. My half marathon times generally fall in the 1:52-1:55 range. After leaving T2, I waved to the wifey, and headed out. It was hot. And by hot, I mean super hot. BT race reports from the prior year say that if you're in the shade, you're off the course, and they were right. 97 degrees. No shade. High humidity. It took about a mile before I had my first cramp. After that, it was a sufferfest for the rest of the race. Run/walk combo as much as possible, hitting the aid stations located approximately every mile (which were staffed by super volunteers, by the way) as much as possible for ice/rags/water/gels/endurolytes. I had never taken endurolytes before, but after the first cramps I realized I was enormously salt-deficient, and had to do something to address. 2 Endurolytes at aid station 1/2/4 helped a bit, but there was no getting over the cramps. Run time was a huge disappointment - 2:29:05, for a total time of 6:31:04. Very disappointing considering my overall goal.Overall - good race, great volunteers. I'm disappointed with my overall time, as I thought my general fitness level was much more indicative of about 6 hrs. However, I've already resolved myself to go back next year, with a better understanding of the race and an amended nutrition plan, to hammer out a sub-6. But, I finished, and in one piece (which was what my wife cared about). Next for me - a couple sprints/olympic distance races in June/July, with the Peachtree Road Race 7/4, and the Augusta 70.3 in September being my next "A" race.
Just finishing that event w/o ending up in the medical tent is a huge accomplishment.Great race report. You'll crush 6 hr in Augusta.
 
Figured I'd pop my head back in here and give you guys an update. I've been training pretty hard over the past couple of months or so, trying to get ready for Macon, and haven't really had a chance to post. Lots of riding/running over the past month, maxing out at long rides of 58 miles and long runs of 15-16, attempting to get acclimated to the heat.

Anyways, on the RR, which is what you're probably interested in anyways. Macon (the Rock N Rollman 70.3) has a reputation of being a tough course, made tougher by the heat. As a matter of fact, i was speaking with a friend of mine that KQ'd last year and who went 3rd OA at Macon last year, and he said that it was by far the toughest 70.3 course in the south. Great - just what I'd pick for a first HIM :) . My overall goal was to finish under 6 hrs, as that would leave me a 40 minute swim/3 hr bike/2 hr half, with a few minutes in T1/T2, with 10-12 minutes to spare.

Got down to Macon on Friday night with my wife and a friend (I live in Atlanta, about an hour north) for the mandatory bike checkin and packet pickup. Got everything squared away, met up with a couple other folks I knew down there, grabbed some dinner, readied nutrition, and headed to bed.

Saturday morning - got the the race site about 5:45ish for a 7:00 start. I got body marked, threw on some sun screen and headed to the start. Swim was a wave start, with elites going first at 7:00 am and my wave (M 39 & under) at 7:03. Start wasn't too rough, with abuot 50 guys in my wave, so the washing machine effect not bad. Unfortunately, however, my normal goggles had broken in a training swim about a week earlier, and I had grabbed my two backup pairs to bring down to the race. The pair I selected to wear had broken somehow, and I didn't notice it until I was 50 m into the water, and my right eye started filling up with water. After about 500 m, I seriously considered turning around and going back, taking a DNF. I had to stop and empty it approximately every 30 seconds for the remainder of the race, which really crushed my dreams of going sub-40 in the swim. I did struggle a little to stay comfy on the swim but not just completely relaxed. I wanted to put out a good effort but keep things under control from a energy expenditure stand point. That pace was a little tough to find. I think I picked it up towards the end and probably could have swam that pace the entire swim. Swim time 46:57 (watch time 44:59), which included a long run up a pretty big hill to T1.

T1 - I had purchased a spare tube, which I don't normally carry, for the race, just in case. I didn't want to be stuck 30 miles from civilization with a flat. It was sitting in my right rear bottle holder. I had a bottle of concentrated Infinit (approximately 345 calories) on my downtube, and had a 3-gel plan with Infinit supplement for the bike. Started with 20 oz of water in the aerobottle. My plan was to take a minute in T1, settle myself down after the swim, and get ready for a long 3 hrs on the bike. All that worked fine, grabbed a drink of Gatorade, and headed out. T1 time 2:17. Slower than my normal sprint/oly transitions, but that was the plan.

Bike - Started off ominously, similar to the swim. After 100 yards, I realized my back tire was caught on something. I originally thought i had a flat, so I stopped and looked down. Of course, the spare tube had fallen off and wrapped itself around my rear derailleur and wheel. So, it took a minute to untangle, fold the tube back up, and stuck down the back of my shorts. Off again for another 100 yards, until I hit a bump and my aerobottle popped out. Stopped to retrieve - disaster averted at the cost of another couple of minutes jerry-rigging it back into place. After that, the bike was pretty uneventful. Slow and steady pace for the first 30 miles or so, felt pretty good. Last 10 miles were rough - the course profile looked like there was a pretty big hill at mile 46-48, and then a big downhill pretty much all the way to the bike finish. I don't know who drew the course profile, but I'm pretty sure that there was no downhill. I kept looking for it, but I think it didn't exist. Nutrition overall went well - took a gel at about mile 5, mile 25, mile 40, with Infinit to supplement. Drank water to thirst, got a new waterbottle at handups at mile 15/30/45. Bike time 3:09:49.

T2 - Actually I was worried about how my legs would feel coming off the bike, as I'd not gotten any 56 mile bikes/run bricks done before the race. But, shockingly enough, I felt pretty good. Similar to T1, I took a minute to grab some gatorade, reapply sunscreen, etc. So, it's a slower T2 than I'd have at a sprint/oly (I'm usually in the 45 second range), I felt pretty good about it. T2 time 2:58

Run - Ginormous blowup. I am not a super-fast runner, but I think I hold my own, and I generally consider running to be the best of the 3 sports for me. My half marathon times generally fall in the 1:52-1:55 range. After leaving T2, I waved to the wifey, and headed out. It was hot. And by hot, I mean super hot. BT race reports from the prior year say that if you're in the shade, you're off the course, and they were right. 97 degrees. No shade. High humidity. It took about a mile before I had my first cramp. After that, it was a sufferfest for the rest of the race. Run/walk combo as much as possible, hitting the aid stations located approximately every mile (which were staffed by super volunteers, by the way) as much as possible for ice/rags/water/gels/endurolytes. I had never taken endurolytes before, but after the first cramps I realized I was enormously salt-deficient, and had to do something to address. 2 Endurolytes at aid station 1/2/4 helped a bit, but there was no getting over the cramps. Run time was a huge disappointment - 2:29:05, for a total time of 6:31:04. Very disappointing considering my overall goal.

Overall - good race, great volunteers. I'm disappointed with my overall time, as I thought my general fitness level was much more indicative of about 6 hrs. However, I've already resolved myself to go back next year, with a better understanding of the race and an amended nutrition plan, to hammer out a sub-6. But, I finished, and in one piece (which was what my wife cared about).

Next for me - a couple sprints/olympic distance races in June/July, with the Peachtree Road Race 7/4, and the Augusta 70.3 in September being my next "A" race.
The 70.3 sticker on the car looks the same no matter how you get there. CONGRATULATIONS. I had very much the same attitude as you after the HIM I did last year (and blew up on the run too) that when I do the next, I'll be that much smarted, that much more prepared. AND, as time has gone by I have been happier and happier with what I accomplished. It huge and you should be very proud.
 
The 70.3 sticker on the car looks the same no matter how you get there. CONGRATULATIONS. I had very much the same attitude as you after the HIM I did last year (and blew up on the run too) that when I do the next, I'll be that much smarted, that much more prepared. AND, as time has gone by I have been happier and happier with what I accomplished. It huge and you should be very proud.
All, thanks for the kind words. I am proud, don't get me wrong, but part of me feels like I could have done so much better. Even a 1:58 run gets me right on my 6 hr pace.
 
The 70.3 sticker on the car looks the same no matter how you get there. CONGRATULATIONS. I had very much the same attitude as you after the HIM I did last year (and blew up on the run too) that when I do the next, I'll be that much smarted, that much more prepared. AND, as time has gone by I have been happier and happier with what I accomplished. It huge and you should be very proud.
All, thanks for the kind words. I am proud, don't get me wrong, but part of me feels like I could have done so much better. Even a 1:58 run gets me right on my 6 hr pace.
I can identify with what you're feeling with my marathon experience. You bust your ### for months on end to come up short to an arbitrary time goal. There's far too many variables to be able to really predict what you'll do first time out. That disappointment will take a backseat to the pride of the accomplishment with time. :thumbup:
 
The 70.3 sticker on the car looks the same no matter how you get there. CONGRATULATIONS. I had very much the same attitude as you after the HIM I did last year (and blew up on the run too) that when I do the next, I'll be that much smarted, that much more prepared. AND, as time has gone by I have been happier and happier with what I accomplished. It huge and you should be very proud.
All, thanks for the kind words. I am proud, don't get me wrong, but part of me feels like I could have done so much better. Even a 1:58 run gets me right on my 6 hr pace.
Eh - heat can really screw up your running. And Macon had to be absolutely brutal right now. Chalk it up to conditions and hit the next one. Just finishing in this heat has got to be a nice accomplishment. I'm sure the DNF list was quite long.

 
It is over 100 here and I am starting to sniff smoke in the air from the wild fires out here. I did 2.49 slow miles. I kept my avg HR in the 150s. I dont feel like I did much other then trying to acclimate myself. This 24/55 plan is scaring me and I know I have to do a good 2-3 mos of it in serious heat.
What 24/55 plan are you doing?
The one in Advanced Marathoning-Pfitzinger
 
It is over 100 here and I am starting to sniff smoke in the air from the wild fires out here. I did 2.49 slow miles. I kept my avg HR in the 150s. I dont feel like I did much other then trying to acclimate myself. This 24/55 plan is scaring me and I know I have to do a good 2-3 mos of it in serious heat.
What 24/55 plan are you doing?
The one in Advanced Marathoning-Pfitzinger
They only break it down to 18 or 12 week cycles. You must mean the 18 in chapter 8? I'm toying with doing this one too. Well me and the wife toyed around with going to the local 5k tonight (brother bailed on the idea on Monday), but decided to play it safe and run a 5k on Saturday instead. We had record heat with heat index breaking 105 today. It was fn HOT. Being the dufus that I am I decided I still needed to get a run in and only had time to do it at 5pm. I went out easy and only managed to get 5 in before deciding it was time to call it quits. Needless to say that was not much fun.
 
Ouch Ned...thats some crap right there.

I went out at 9 and it was 90 here. Got 2 of my 4 miles in before heading quickly to the house as some lightening that looked like it was up in the clouds in the distance started becoming brighter and closer and looked to be coming down some.

Finished the last 2 miles on the treadmill. Was more comfortable in the 70 degree house with the fan blowing on me anyway.

 
Just read a couple of update emails for a Sprint Tri I am doing on Sunday and got butterflies thinking about the swim (which makes no sense). Its only a 500 meter swim, on a course I've done before (and did the 1,500 meter Oly swim there last year) and I just did a tri 2 weeks ago that had a 1/2 mile swim. On any given day, I swim upwards of 2,500 yards training, but can seem to shake the nerves.

 
Just read a couple of update emails for a Sprint Tri I am doing on Sunday and got butterflies thinking about the swim (which makes no sense). Its only a 500 meter swim, on a course I've done before (and did the 1,500 meter Oly swim there last year) and I just did a tri 2 weeks ago that had a 1/2 mile swim. On any given day, I swim upwards of 2,500 yards training, but can seem to shake the nerves.
Do a good 15 minute warmup in the water. That will take care of the nerves. I got nerves before my 5k swim, as well - happened both years. Obviously I knew I could do the distance, but these things crop up. Though in my case I chatted up ( :wub: ) the Auburn swimmer girls instead of warming up, 'cause warming up for a 5k swim is a bit silly. :P
 
Just read a couple of update emails for a Sprint Tri I am doing on Sunday and got butterflies thinking about the swim (which makes no sense). Its only a 500 meter swim, on a course I've done before (and did the 1,500 meter Oly swim there last year) and I just did a tri 2 weeks ago that had a 1/2 mile swim. On any given day, I swim upwards of 2,500 yards training, but can seem to shake the nerves.
Makes since...Run - you may collapse and end up in a tent getting an IV.Bike - you may crash and end up in the hospital with a broken collar bone and concussion.Swim - best case you drown and hopefully they pull your corpse out before you sink, worst case you get mouth to mouth from some dude and someone posts the pics here.
 
Just read a couple of update emails for a Sprint Tri I am doing on Sunday and got butterflies thinking about the swim (which makes no sense). Its only a 500 meter swim, on a course I've done before (and did the 1,500 meter Oly swim there last year) and I just did a tri 2 weeks ago that had a 1/2 mile swim. On any given day, I swim upwards of 2,500 yards training, but can seem to shake the nerves.
Makes since...Run - you may collapse and end up in a tent getting an IV.Bike - you may crash and end up in the hospital with a broken collar bone and concussion.Swim - best case you drown and hopefully they pull your corpse out before you sink, worst case you get mouth to mouth from some dude and someone posts the pics here.
Good food for thought, I'll keep these in mind on Sunday.........
 
Just read a couple of update emails for a Sprint Tri I am doing on Sunday and got butterflies thinking about the swim (which makes no sense). Its only a 500 meter swim, on a course I've done before (and did the 1,500 meter Oly swim there last year) and I just did a tri 2 weeks ago that had a 1/2 mile swim. On any given day, I swim upwards of 2,500 yards training, but can seem to shake the nerves.
Makes since...Run - you may collapse and end up in a tent getting an IV.Bike - you may crash and end up in the hospital with a broken collar bone and concussion.Swim - best case you drown and hopefully they pull your corpse out before you sink, worst case you get mouth to mouth from some dude and someone posts the pics here.
Good food for thought, I'll keep these in mind on Sunday.........
You'll do great. Go rock the podium and represent in FBG style.
 
Just read a couple of update emails for a Sprint Tri I am doing on Sunday and got butterflies thinking about the swim (which makes no sense). Its only a 500 meter swim, on a course I've done before (and did the 1,500 meter Oly swim there last year) and I just did a tri 2 weeks ago that had a 1/2 mile swim. On any given day, I swim upwards of 2,500 yards training, but can seem to shake the nerves.
Makes since...Run - you may collapse and end up in a tent getting an IV.Bike - you may crash and end up in the hospital with a broken collar bone and concussion.Swim - best case you drown and hopefully they pull your corpse out before you sink, worst case you get mouth to mouth from some dude and someone posts the pics here.
Good food for thought, I'll keep these in mind on Sunday.........
You'll do great. Go rock the podium and represent in FBG style.
I am going to try, but this is likely not the event for me to grab hardware. Top three in my AG last year all did the swim around 8 minutes, 1 averaged 24 on the bike and the other two @ 23.5 and 2 of the three ran sub 6:30s for the 3.4 mile run.
 
Just read a couple of update emails for a Sprint Tri I am doing on Sunday and got butterflies thinking about the swim (which makes no sense). Its only a 500 meter swim, on a course I've done before (and did the 1,500 meter Oly swim there last year) and I just did a tri 2 weeks ago that had a 1/2 mile swim. On any given day, I swim upwards of 2,500 yards training, but can seem to shake the nerves.
Makes since...Run - you may collapse and end up in a tent getting an IV.Bike - you may crash and end up in the hospital with a broken collar bone and concussion.Swim - best case you drown and hopefully they pull your corpse out before you sink, worst case you get mouth to mouth from some dude and someone posts the pics here.
Now that's a lockerroom pep talk. :thumbup:
 
Just read a couple of update emails for a Sprint Tri I am doing on Sunday and got butterflies thinking about the swim (which makes no sense). Its only a 500 meter swim, on a course I've done before (and did the 1,500 meter Oly swim there last year) and I just did a tri 2 weeks ago that had a 1/2 mile swim. On any given day, I swim upwards of 2,500 yards training, but can seem to shake the nerves.
Well then maybe you should make a stop in mamby-pamby land on the way to the race, ya jackwagon! The butterflies are good - it means you're ready to race and ready to attack the course. Use the time to review (for probably the umpteenth time) your race plans. You'll be fine! Looking forward to a full season of race reports.
 
Just read a couple of update emails for a Sprint Tri I am doing on Sunday and got butterflies thinking about the swim (which makes no sense). Its only a 500 meter swim, on a course I've done before (and did the 1,500 meter Oly swim there last year) and I just did a tri 2 weeks ago that had a 1/2 mile swim. On any given day, I swim upwards of 2,500 yards training, but can seem to shake the nerves.
Well then maybe you should make a stop in mamby-pamby land on the way to the race, ya jackwagon! The butterflies are good - it means you're ready to race and ready to attack the course. Use the time to review (for probably the umpteenth time) your race plans. You'll be fine! Looking forward to a full season of race reports.
:goodposting: You are going to kill it! I also can't wait to read the race reports. I'm getting antsy to start training, and cannot wait to get at it. I'm PT'ing on my own from here forward, and if all goes well, I'll be back soon. :boxing:
 
Going through the Pfitz plans in detail. Wow, these plans are no joke. Even the 18/55 has me :ph34r:

No offense to Higdon, but this looks much much harder than the Intermediate II plan. I'm pretty sure I'm going to just follow the 18/55 for the most part and see how it goes. Looking forward to the challenge. :thumbup:

 
'FBG26 said:
'2Young2BBald said:
'BassNBrew said:
You'll do great. Go rock the podium and represent in FBG style.
I am going to try, but this is likely not the event for me to grab hardware. Top three in my AG last year all did the swim around 8 minutes, 1 averaged 24 on the bike and the other two @ 23.5 and 2 of the three ran sub 6:30s for the 3.4 mile run.
I fail to see the problem here. Quit making excuses grandma.
Did I forget to mention its the 40 to 44 AG, so I suppose I may be as old as your grandma.....
 
'Ned said:
'prosopis said:
It is over 100 here and I am starting to sniff smoke in the air from the wild fires out here. I did 2.49 slow miles. I kept my avg HR in the 150s. I dont feel like I did much other then trying to acclimate myself. This 24/55 plan is scaring me and I know I have to do a good 2-3 mos of it in serious heat.
What 24/55 plan are you doing?
The one in Advanced Marathoning-Pfitzinger
They only break it down to 18 or 12 week cycles. You must mean the 18 in chapter 8? I'm toying with doing this one too. Well me and the wife toyed around with going to the local 5k tonight (brother bailed on the idea on Monday), but decided to play it safe and run a 5k on Saturday instead. We had record heat with heat index breaking 105 today. It was fn HOT. Being the dufus that I am I decided I still needed to get a run in and only had time to do it at 5pm. I went out easy and only managed to get 5 in before deciding it was time to call it quits. Needless to say that was not much fun.
My book has a 24 week plan in chapter 8. It is the first one. page 140 for me.
 
'Ned said:
'prosopis said:
It is over 100 here and I am starting to sniff smoke in the air from the wild fires out here. I did 2.49 slow miles. I kept my avg HR in the 150s. I dont feel like I did much other then trying to acclimate myself. This 24/55 plan is scaring me and I know I have to do a good 2-3 mos of it in serious heat.
What 24/55 plan are you doing?
The one in Advanced Marathoning-Pfitzinger
They only break it down to 18 or 12 week cycles. You must mean the 18 in chapter 8? I'm toying with doing this one too. Well me and the wife toyed around with going to the local 5k tonight (brother bailed on the idea on Monday), but decided to play it safe and run a 5k on Saturday instead. We had record heat with heat index breaking 105 today. It was fn HOT. Being the dufus that I am I decided I still needed to get a run in and only had time to do it at 5pm. I went out easy and only managed to get 5 in before deciding it was time to call it quits. Needless to say that was not much fun.
My book has a 24 week plan in chapter 8. It is the first one. page 140 for me.
Huh. Maybe we're reading different versions?
 
Spirit of the Marathon is available for free streaming on Amazon.com if you are an Amazon Prime member.
Thanks for the heads up on this. They did a pretty good job capturing what the marathon is all about. Seeing the girl with the knee braces (I forget her name all of a sudden) break down at the end hit home. I'll never forget that overwhelming rush of emotion at the finish. :thumbup:
 
My second swim went better yesterday so hopefully I will continue to make progress. Was able to do 12 laps (300 yds total and up from 8 laps on Monday) with breaks in between. I am working on my form - issue right now is more of trying to get the breathing part down. If I get my face down into the water consistently it is MUCH easier to swim but I find myself not keeping up with the breathing as well as I should. I am sure that will come with practice. I also hung around the pool and watched some others swim and there was a guy instructing some people so I picked his brain a bit and watched his students. Hopefully I just keep making progress. Right now, I am scared to death that I am not going to be ready and will be out in the middle of a lake somewhere gassed and unable to finish the swim leg.

I felt really good after the swim so I tried my first brick to see how that would go. Ended up biking 8 miles and then topped it off with a 1.5 mile run. So, I was able to pretty much do 1/2 of each leg of my August tri yesterday which was a good feeling. I am not worried about the bike or run part - just don't to drown on the swim part :) . At least that's a big motivator for me to keep training real hard on the swimming part.

 
Whassup, kids? Ran a 6/4 double yesterday and then went to Miller Park and watched the Brewers lay an egg against the Mets. Not shocking, I guess, that there'd be an emotional let-down after the big come-from-behind win on Wednesday.

Just an easy 3-mile shakeout run over lunch today ahead of the 10K tomorrow morning. Looking like overcast skies and 53 degrees tomorrow morning, so it figures to be a "no-excuses" kind of day.

"A" goal - Sub-39

"B" goal - Sub-39:30

"C" goal (and this would be disappointing) - New PR (sub-40:43)

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Ivan - Are you running tonight, or not?

ThreeThousand - Congrats on the HIM. Once I get my sub-3 marathon, I think I might start transitioning to the tri stuff a little bit, with the goal of maybe doing a HIM in 2012 and possibly the full IM in 2013. We'll see.

2Young - Good luck on Sunday....and stop being such a pansy.

Ned/prosopis - You're right. The Pfitz plans are for real. But I've said it before, and I'll say it again that I made my biggest improvements as a marathoner when I started doing Pfitz.

 
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'2Young2BBald said:
Just read a couple of update emails for a Sprint Tri I am doing on Sunday and got butterflies thinking about the swim (which makes no sense). Its only a 500 meter swim, on a course I've done before (and did the 1,500 meter Oly swim there last year) and I just did a tri 2 weeks ago that had a 1/2 mile swim. On any given day, I swim upwards of 2,500 yards training, but can seem to shake the nerves.
The swim always made me nervous too. I found getting in the water early and acclimating (even if I had to come out for a run/wave start) helped a lot to calm the nerves, just floating there or whatever.I'm totally pumped for tomorrow, have a 102 mile "Beer Century" with about a dozen or so other guys. Hitting four breweries in SC Wisconsin - Capital, Lake Louie, Grumpy Troll and New Glarus. Weather looks good, longest stretch is 33 miles most are 20-30. Should be fun!

Good luck to those racing this weekend, get some PR's/Hardware!!

 
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GL tomorrow, grue. Those are some great June conditions! :thumbup:

My wife, brother, and I are running a 5K tomorrow morning. 72 degrees with 50% chance of storms. Should be fun nonetheless.

I've been doing a bunch of reading about training in the heat/humidity and learned something that I never knew before. Did you know that your body absorbs cold water faster than warm water? Might be common knowledge, but I never knew that. I actually prefer my gatorade warm vs. cold, but I'll be chilling it going forward...

 
Getting ready for the 8 mile run tomorrow, I hope that this one will be better than last week.

Today I picked up some powerade and plan to put it in one of my water bottles instead of water. I also picked up a pack of Clif bars for pre run nourishment, they seemed to help a lot when I was training for the half before. I got real hungry during last weeks run.

 
Whassup, kids? Ran a 6/4 double yesterday and then went to Miller Park and watched the Brewers lay an egg against the Mets. Not shocking, I guess, that there'd be an emotional let-down after the big come-from-behind win on Wednesday.

Just an easy 3-mile shakeout run over lunch today ahead of the 10K tomorrow morning. Looking like overcast skies and 53 degrees tomorrow morning, so it figures to be a "no-excuses" kind of day.

"A" goal - Sub-39

"B" goal - Sub-39:30

"C" goal (and this would be disappointing) - New PR (sub-40:43)

-------------------

Ivan - Are you running tonight, or not?

ThreeThousand - Congrats on the HIM. Once I get my sub-3 marathon, I think I might start transitioning to the tri stuff a little bit, with the goal of maybe doing a HIM in 2012 and possibly the full IM in 2013. We'll see.

2Young - Good luck on Sunday....and stop being such a pansy.

Ned/prosopis - You're right. The Pfitz plans are for real. But I've said it before, and I'll say it again that I made my biggest improvements as a marathoner when I started doing Pfitz.
Thanks, and holy carp - a sub 3:00 marathon? You'll kill most of the local sprints/olys around here.
 
My second swim went better yesterday so hopefully I will continue to make progress. Was able to do 12 laps (300 yds total and up from 8 laps on Monday) with breaks in between. I am working on my form - issue right now is more of trying to get the breathing part down. If I get my face down into the water consistently it is MUCH easier to swim but I find myself not keeping up with the breathing as well as I should. I am sure that will come with practice. I also hung around the pool and watched some others swim and there was a guy instructing some people so I picked his brain a bit and watched his students. Hopefully I just keep making progress. Right now, I am scared to death that I am not going to be ready and will be out in the middle of a lake somewhere gassed and unable to finish the swim leg.
Try not to let this creep in. In your shoes I would practice some backstroke. If you have breathing issues flip over and get some air. Backstroke is a relatively easy stroke to be passable in and it lets you take the breaks that you may need. Backstroke is pretty easy if you keep a couple things in mind - head back (which keeps the legs up), arms go straight up and back over your head, small tight kicking. This will be good for morale as you will always have the backup of being able to take a break, get air freely, and make some forward progress at the same time.
 
Whassup, kids? Ran a 6/4 double yesterday and then went to Miller Park and watched the Brewers lay an egg against the Mets. Not shocking, I guess, that there'd be an emotional let-down after the big come-from-behind win on Wednesday.

Just an easy 3-mile shakeout run over lunch today ahead of the 10K tomorrow morning. Looking like overcast skies and 53 degrees tomorrow morning, so it figures to be a "no-excuses" kind of day.

"A" goal - Sub-39

"B" goal - Sub-39:30

"C" goal (and this would be disappointing) - New PR (sub-40:43)

-------------------

Ivan - Are you running tonight, or not?

ThreeThousand - Congrats on the HIM. Once I get my sub-3 marathon, I think I might start transitioning to the tri stuff a little bit, with the goal of maybe doing a HIM in 2012 and possibly the full IM in 2013. We'll see.

2Young - Good luck on Sunday....and stop being such a pansy.

Ned/prosopis - You're right. The Pfitz plans are for real. But I've said it before, and I'll say it again that I made my biggest improvements as a marathoner when I started doing Pfitz.
GL gruecd. You know you've arrived as a runner when your "C" goal is a PR. ;) My potential 10K is next Friday, not tonight, so I have a few days to figure things out. This is a very small and very fast field; about half the male runners will be local cross-country guys, so my time is going to "bad" regardless of whether I peform well relative to myself or not. This argues for giving it a shot.

I'm looking forward to doing Pfitz's 18/55 the next time I do a marathon (next spring at the earliest). My reaction to reading through the plan was the same as Ned's, but it's not insurmountably hard. My plan is to bump up my running to 5 days a week a couple of weeks from now once I'm fully recovered from Fargo, and see if I can maintain 30-35 mpw regularly. If I do start another training cycle next winter, I'd like to have that extra base mileage very well established before I start.

 
GL tomorrow, grue. Those are some great June conditions! :thumbup:My wife, brother, and I are running a 5K tomorrow morning. 72 degrees with 50% chance of storms. Should be fun nonetheless.I've been doing a bunch of reading about training in the heat/humidity and learned something that I never knew before. Did you know that your body absorbs cold water faster than warm water? Might be common knowledge, but I never knew that. I actually prefer my gatorade warm vs. cold, but I'll be chilling it going forward...
Your drink should be as close to slush as you can get it. Study not too long ago (I believe a cycling time trial study) showed that drinking slushy water before a race significantly improved performance. All about core body temps.
Thanks, and holy carp - a sub 3:00 marathon? You'll kill most of the local sprints/olys around here.
:yes: Grue is getting pretty close. ----On my end I do have a race this Sat. Out of Oak Mountain (BnB can appreciate). Luckily only one lap of that hilly beast. Little chance of hardware as this race draws people in from all over.Considering trying to do a double on Sunday - the Alabama State TT Championships are on. We'll see how I feel after tomorrow's event.
 

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