tri-man 47
Footballguy
Lots of good race reports: tri hardware, a 10K PR, and a new half-marathoner. FBGs representing.
Way to go, guys!!!
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Ran a 10k in June (6 Viewers)
- Thread starter GStrot
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Way to go, guys!!!
gruecd
Footballguy
Solid 15-miler today. I was a little worried about how it would go, since I had the hard 10K yesterday, and I didn't get to bed until 3:15 this morning after I got sick of waiting for a cab and decided to walk 4 miles home from the bar. Did the whole thing in 1:58:50 (7:55 average pace) with the second half a little faster than the first.
Week in review:
M - SRD
T - 12 @ 7:48/mile in 80-degree heat
W - SRD
T - 4 @ 8:15/mile (AM) and 6 @ 7:31/mile (PM)
F - 3 @ 7:56/mile
S - 2.25 warmup @ 9:13/mile and 10K race at 6:25/mile
S - 15 @ 7:55/mile
TOTAL - 48.45 miles (lighter mileage this week with the mini-taper for the 10K)
Slightly lighter load again this week with the 30-mile "marathon + 3.8" fun run coming up on Saturday morning.
Week in review:
M - SRD
T - 12 @ 7:48/mile in 80-degree heat
W - SRD
T - 4 @ 8:15/mile (AM) and 6 @ 7:31/mile (PM)
F - 3 @ 7:56/mile
S - 2.25 warmup @ 9:13/mile and 10K race at 6:25/mile
S - 15 @ 7:55/mile
TOTAL - 48.45 miles (lighter mileage this week with the mini-taper for the 10K)
Slightly lighter load again this week with the 30-mile "marathon + 3.8" fun run coming up on Saturday morning.
Sand
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
I said mini-taper.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Huge congrats to Dexter & Turkish who rocked today. For me, not so much. Big issues on the swim lead to a 15th out of 42 in my AG and probably my worse tri performance to date. I'll get an RR out tomorrow, but it will be brutal. Averaged slower 100M times over 500M than I did over 1500 for the Oly last year and 2 MPH slower over 12 miles than I did over 24 on the Oly last year. Very disappointing.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
RACE REPORT
65 degrees for a 1 p.m. start in June! Could have been 90 but mother nature was friendly to me today!
Ran a 7.1 mile race that included a 150+ ft elevation rise over a 0.3 stretch between Mile 6 and 7. The grade was 9.3% according to Runners World article about this race. Race Route with elevation Did the first half of the race in 25:50 and the second half in 29:10 for a total time of 55:00. (7:44/mile pace)
I ran aggressively in the beginning with the first section of the race as a downhill, first two miles were both 7:23/mile pace. Some of the slowing later on in the race was me being pretty shot as well as the hills to climb back up near the end.
Overall, I'm pleased with the effort, but I'm still a long ways to getting my 3:30 marathon this fall.
Onward we go......
Gotta get my mileage up and do a half marathon training run next weekend.
65 degrees for a 1 p.m. start in June! Could have been 90 but mother nature was friendly to me today!
Ran a 7.1 mile race that included a 150+ ft elevation rise over a 0.3 stretch between Mile 6 and 7. The grade was 9.3% according to Runners World article about this race. Race Route with elevation Did the first half of the race in 25:50 and the second half in 29:10 for a total time of 55:00. (7:44/mile pace)
I ran aggressively in the beginning with the first section of the race as a downhill, first two miles were both 7:23/mile pace. Some of the slowing later on in the race was me being pretty shot as well as the hills to climb back up near the end.
Overall, I'm pleased with the effort, but I'm still a long ways to getting my 3:30 marathon this fall.
Onward we go......
Gotta get my mileage up and do a half marathon training run next weekend.
Sand
Footballguy
I hate valley runs. Give me a good hill any day. That is a great time for such a hilly course, BTW.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
JFT Ben
Footballguy
Nice job this weekend fellas, nice results and times, pretty inspirational.
As a training/fun ride, on Saturday a few of us did what hopefully will be the first of many "Tour de Beer" century+ ride in south central Wisconsin. Our goal was to ride at a comfortable pace, stop at four brewers and make a day of it. As I reflected on the ride later, it's interesting to come back to reality from IM training where a ride like this was a mostly typical Saturday. Anyways, we started at the Capital Brewery in Madison/Middleton at 7:30 a.m. and headed west toward a small micro-brewery I've been drinking product from for about 7 years called Lake Louie in Arena, WI. Ride conditions were cool and comfortable, but when we stopped for breaks we would cool down pretty fast. We did a brewery tour there (just us and one of the employees) and sampled their beers. They only do 30 barrell batches (about 900 gallons) so they are definitely a small outfit. Their new Mosquito Beach seasonal was solid and is hard to find in Madison though they said it's been out for a month now.
From Lake Louie we headed southeast toward Mount Horeb (home of the Horribly Hilly Hundreds 200k ride w/ 10,000 + feet of climbing which is a great event) for the Grumpy Troll pub/brewery. Had lunch and a beer there (solid, not spectacular) before heading south toward New Glarus. Terrain throughout the day was very rolling to some steep hills, but the route wasn't overly hilly by my standards. I don't have the total vertical gain but what I know of other routes is probably in that 6-7,000 feet range. New Glarus was the largest and nicest brewery we stopped at, with a huge new outside area, tasting area, etc. Unfortunately they wouldn't let us tour with our bike shoes/cleats. The home stretch took us back north to Madison/Middleton where we coasted in on tired legs and sampled the Capital's finest and most satisfying beer of the day.
For what it was, the ride was a success. I would have enjoyed myself a little more with a couple of stronger riders and a slightly faster pace, but we had a fun time and only had one flat for the day. I've never drank and rode before, but a pint of beer would hit pretty fast, but then would be gone really fast too. Final tally for the day was 111 miles, longest ride for me since my IM in 2005.
As a training/fun ride, on Saturday a few of us did what hopefully will be the first of many "Tour de Beer" century+ ride in south central Wisconsin. Our goal was to ride at a comfortable pace, stop at four brewers and make a day of it. As I reflected on the ride later, it's interesting to come back to reality from IM training where a ride like this was a mostly typical Saturday. Anyways, we started at the Capital Brewery in Madison/Middleton at 7:30 a.m. and headed west toward a small micro-brewery I've been drinking product from for about 7 years called Lake Louie in Arena, WI. Ride conditions were cool and comfortable, but when we stopped for breaks we would cool down pretty fast. We did a brewery tour there (just us and one of the employees) and sampled their beers. They only do 30 barrell batches (about 900 gallons) so they are definitely a small outfit. Their new Mosquito Beach seasonal was solid and is hard to find in Madison though they said it's been out for a month now.
From Lake Louie we headed southeast toward Mount Horeb (home of the Horribly Hilly Hundreds 200k ride w/ 10,000 + feet of climbing which is a great event) for the Grumpy Troll pub/brewery. Had lunch and a beer there (solid, not spectacular) before heading south toward New Glarus. Terrain throughout the day was very rolling to some steep hills, but the route wasn't overly hilly by my standards. I don't have the total vertical gain but what I know of other routes is probably in that 6-7,000 feet range. New Glarus was the largest and nicest brewery we stopped at, with a huge new outside area, tasting area, etc. Unfortunately they wouldn't let us tour with our bike shoes/cleats. The home stretch took us back north to Madison/Middleton where we coasted in on tired legs and sampled the Capital's finest and most satisfying beer of the day.
For what it was, the ride was a success. I would have enjoyed myself a little more with a couple of stronger riders and a slightly faster pace, but we had a fun time and only had one flat for the day. I've never drank and rode before, but a pint of beer would hit pretty fast, but then would be gone really fast too. Final tally for the day was 111 miles, longest ride for me since my IM in 2005.
How about that high schooler running the mile in under 4 minutes? That's insane.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lukas_Verzbicas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lukas_Verzbicas
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Holy Crap
Check out the guy who finished #129.
I can only hope to run like that when I'm 71. Actually, on second thought, I can only hope to run that today!
Check out the guy who finished #129.
I can only hope to run like that when I'm 71. Actually, on second thought, I can only hope to run that today!
tri-man 47
Footballguy
The kid is amazing ...it's been enjoyable to follow his successes here in the Chicago area.
Dexter
Footballguy
Motor City Triathlon
Weather: cool and dry
Location: Belle Isle, Detroit
This was a 2 transition race (which I didn't like) I still don't understand why they did it like that but whatever. This race was extra special from me because I got to watch 2 of my friends (husband and wife team) do their first triathlon and Turkish do his frist real triathlon (he's done an xtri). The swim was okay but these mass start swims are tough especially when you're in the last wave. through out the whole swim I feel like I'm fighting someone. The bike was good the wind was strong and I felt it push me hard so I was darting behind people a lot. The run was nice but I notice a bunch of ankle turner spots. even saw one guy get twisted up but he kept going.
All in all a good experience. Belle isle could be the jewel of Detroit, but well they can't get much right down there these days. I'll be back next year.
Weather: cool and dry
Location: Belle Isle, Detroit
This was a 2 transition race (which I didn't like) I still don't understand why they did it like that but whatever. This race was extra special from me because I got to watch 2 of my friends (husband and wife team) do their first triathlon and Turkish do his frist real triathlon (he's done an xtri). The swim was okay but these mass start swims are tough especially when you're in the last wave. through out the whole swim I feel like I'm fighting someone. The bike was good the wind was strong and I felt it push me hard so I was darting behind people a lot. The run was nice but I notice a bunch of ankle turner spots. even saw one guy get twisted up but he kept going.
All in all a good experience. Belle isle could be the jewel of Detroit, but well they can't get much right down there these days. I'll be back next year.
The_Man
Footballguy
Grue, congrats on achieving your "o.k. goal" in a 10k.Anyone remember this from the thread's very first days?Nice job, Sand.
No hardware for me, but I did run 39:44, a PR by 59 seconds. It was congested at the start, and the first two miles are uphill, so it look a little extra energy to hit my paces, which caught up with me later.
Splits per my Garmin: 6:18, 6:22, 6:07, 6:22, 6:36, 6:31, and 5:49 pace for the remainder. My 5K split was 19:29, which was only 6 seconds slower than my (also soft) PR.
I knew sub-39 was gonna be tough, but I was really hoping to break 39:30. Unfortunately, those last couple of miles did me in. It's gonna be tough for me to get much faster without doing some dedicated short-distance training. Won't happen this year, though, since 2011 is all about the sub-3 marathon.
Followed up the race with two giant blueberry pancakes and some hashbrowns.....for $5.01. Gotta love it.
Hope you're all having a great Saturday.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
It is 104 out and windy as I pull into my drive way. I want to start my 24/55 Pfitz program today. It is a week or two early to start it but I thought this would give me some wiggle room for adjustments until my marathon in December.
The first run is general aerobic with speed 7mi/ 10x100 m strides.
I am going to eat dinner and wait an hour or two for digestion and hopefully the sun to go down. I expect it will still be over 100 when I head out. May the lord have mercy on my soul.
I got the hand held amphipod that Gruecd likes today. I am pretty happy to try that although it does not look like much water. 20 oz?
The first run is general aerobic with speed 7mi/ 10x100 m strides.
I am going to eat dinner and wait an hour or two for digestion and hopefully the sun to go down. I expect it will still be over 100 when I head out. May the lord have mercy on my soul.
I got the hand held amphipod that Gruecd likes today. I am pretty happy to try that although it does not look like much water. 20 oz?
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Motor City Sprint Triathlon Race Report - 500M Swim - 20K Bike - 3.4 Mile RunSwim: Huge wave of around 90 guys. I was killing it for the first 300 meters, very little traffic because of a fast start and I played the river current perfectly to get around the buoy in to the current. Flew down the river leg. When I made my turn for home, I got a Charlie Horse from my neck on my right side all the way down my back and in to my right leg to the point that I couldn't throw my right arm. In a panic, I rolled to my back and got ran over several times. Trying to work things out on my back, the current was pushing me off course. More panic here, so I tried to swim and got to where I could stand (not too easy for a midget like me) and the ran in, which was #######g exhausting. As soon as I pulled the cord on my wetsuit, the cramp eased. Best I can figure, I must have had my wetsuit too low on my body and it was putting pressure on something that caused it to lock up. Ended up doing the swim in 10:17 2:04 per 100 (so I must have been flying early on).'2Young2BBald said:
T1: As Dexter mentioned, 2 different transition areas, so you have to stuff all your gear in a bag so it can be brought to T2 for pick up. I was a mess just trying to get my wind from running in the water, a brutal 2:11.
Bike:
Another weak bike performance for me. Averaged 19.8 MPH (averaged 21.9 for the 40K Oly ride last year).T2: Executed the flying dismount (leaving my shoes on the bike) well. Came to my rack to find it full and a mountain bike with a kick stand down sitting on my gear. This added more time, an even more brutal 1:54.
Run: 26:08 for 7:41 MM. I had nothing left, but still thought I was faster than this.
Suppose it could have been worse, as I did have thoughts of a DNF during the swim. I am hoping the water of here starts to warm up. Contrary to logic, I have had 3 of my 5 best tri swims without a wetsuit. As punishment for a poor performance, I made myself ride my incredibly heavy 1979 Schwinn Continental to the pool for a 1,500 yard recovery swim today.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I did it but I did not do it well. Lots of walking. I know I have said this a few dozen times but this time I mean it. I have to wait for the sun to drop on the horizon. Over 100 with the sun beating on me is just to much. As soon as the sun dropped I felt a ton better but it was to late by that time. I lost 4 lbs on the "run". I did like the amphipod, it is much better then what I was doing. I also feel good that I have started training with a goal in mind. That seems to be critical to my psyche.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Seems fast to me. Did 5.25 total myself.1 mile at 10:305 X .5 mile @ 4:30 per half. (see why yours seems fast to me
)1 mile at 10 minJust trying to mix some things in before a short week of just 2 runs next week and not sure how many the week after while on vacation. Probably get a few runs in when not in the mouse's park.
I'd take up biking full time if I lived in your area. Brutal conditions to run in.
Less training this year?What's your key event for the year?Motor City Sprint Triathlon Race Report - 500M Swim - 20K Bike - 3.4 Mile RunSwim: Huge wave of around 90 guys. I was killing it for the first 300 meters, very little traffic because of a fast start and I played the river current perfectly to get around the buoy in to the current. Flew down the river leg. When I made my turn for home, I got a Charlie Horse from my neck on my right side all the way down my back and in to my right leg to the point that I couldn't throw my right arm. In a panic, I rolled to my back and got ran over several times. Trying to work things out on my back, the current was pushing me off course. More panic here, so I tried to swim and got to where I could stand (not too easy for a midget like me) and the ran in, which was #######g exhausting. As soon as I pulled the cord on my wetsuit, the cramp eased. Best I can figure, I must have had my wetsuit too low on my body and it was putting pressure on something that caused it to lock up. Ended up doing the swim in 10:17 2:04 per 100 (so I must have been flying early on).'2Young2BBald said:
T1: As Dexter mentioned, 2 different transition areas, so you have to stuff all your gear in a bag so it can be brought to T2 for pick up. I was a mess just trying to get my wind from running in the water, a brutal 2:11.
Bike:
T2: Executed the flying dismount (leaving my shoes on the bike) well. Came to my rack to find it full and a mountain bike with a kick stand down sitting on my gear. This added more time, an even more brutal 1:54.
Run: 26:08 for 7:41 MM. I had nothing left, but still thought I was faster than this.
Suppose it could have been worse, as I did have thoughts of a DNF during the swim. I am hoping the water of here starts to warm up. Contrary to logic, I have had 3 of my 5 best tri swims without a wetsuit. As punishment for a poor performance, I made myself ride my incredibly heavy 1979 Schwinn Continental to the pool for a 1,500 yard recovery swim today.
:flex:
Still sore from the 70 miler on Sunday but wasn't going to postpone the 20 miler another day. Looks like some progress on paper. May 31 I did 16 miler w/ 518 ft of climbing, 143 hr, 9:57 pace. Today was 20 miles, 636 ft climb, 139 hr, 9:28 pace. More distance, faster pace, less effort!!! Pacing looked much better. Didn't start hurting until mile 18.
1 - 9:25, 136
2 - 9:13, 124
3 - 9:51, 131 Got a bad feeling here.
4 - 9:21, 137 HR became a concern
5 - 9:23, 131 Started hydration
6 - 9:28, 133
7 - 9:15, 133 Took my first gel shot
8 - 9:06, 131
9 - 9:28, 133
10 - 9:46, 127 2nd biggest climbing mile
11 - 9:23, 134
12 - 9:26, 139
13 - 9:22, 141
14 - 9:14, 141
15 - 9:23, 138
16 - 9:37, 144 Gradual uphill start to do me in.
17 - 9:35, 143
18 - 9:57, 147 Ouch
19 - 9:53, 147 No longer having fun
20 - 9:14, 152 Let's get this done quickly
As a side note, a guy flew by me on the other side of the street who was very tall, didn't have much hair, and was wearing a tank/singlet. I thought Gru might by in town.
Still sore from the 70 miler on Sunday but wasn't going to postpone the 20 miler another day. Looks like some progress on paper. May 31 I did 16 miler w/ 518 ft of climbing, 143 hr, 9:57 pace. Today was 20 miles, 636 ft climb, 139 hr, 9:28 pace. More distance, faster pace, less effort!!! Pacing looked much better. Didn't start hurting until mile 18.
1 - 9:25, 136
2 - 9:13, 124
3 - 9:51, 131 Got a bad feeling here.
4 - 9:21, 137 HR became a concern
5 - 9:23, 131 Started hydration
6 - 9:28, 133
7 - 9:15, 133 Took my first gel shot
8 - 9:06, 131
9 - 9:28, 133
10 - 9:46, 127 2nd biggest climbing mile
11 - 9:23, 134
12 - 9:26, 139
13 - 9:22, 141
14 - 9:14, 141
15 - 9:23, 138
16 - 9:37, 144 Gradual uphill start to do me in.
17 - 9:35, 143
18 - 9:57, 147 Ouch
19 - 9:53, 147 No longer having fun
20 - 9:14, 152 Let's get this done quickly
As a side note, a guy flew by me on the other side of the street who was very tall, didn't have much hair, and was wearing a tank/singlet. I thought Gru might by in town.
gruecd
Footballguy
Whassup, guys. Followed up Saturday's 10K and Sunday's 15-miler with 18+ on the bike last night. It was supposed to be an easy recovery ride, but I tried a new route (idiot) that ended up being a lot harder than I'd anticipated. Got up less than 12 hours later and knocked out a 10-mile run this morning. My quads hate me. I'll do 12 tomorrow afternoon, then SRD on Thursday and a little shakeout run on Friday before the 30-mile "fun run" on Saturday at Grandma's.
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SteelCurtain - 9.3%?! That's no joke. Nice work on a tough course.
JFT - Sounds like a fun ride. Love me some Spotted Cow.
eoMMan/tri - That kid is ridiculous.
Dexter - Nice job on the tri!
prosopis - Can't imagine running in that heat. With running being such a big part of my life, there's no way I could live there. How'd you like the Amphipod?
2Young - I know what it's like to have a disappointing race, but you can't win 'em all. Better luck next time.
Sand - Solid hill run!
BNB - Nice job on the 20! Was he ridiculously good-looking, too?
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SteelCurtain - 9.3%?! That's no joke. Nice work on a tough course.
JFT - Sounds like a fun ride. Love me some Spotted Cow.
eoMMan/tri - That kid is ridiculous.
Dexter - Nice job on the tri!
prosopis - Can't imagine running in that heat. With running being such a big part of my life, there's no way I could live there. How'd you like the Amphipod?
2Young - I know what it's like to have a disappointing race, but you can't win 'em all. Better luck next time.
Sand - Solid hill run!
BNB - Nice job on the 20! Was he ridiculously good-looking, too?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
It's probably come up before, but is there any chance you could get up early and log some miles before sun-up? I can't even imagine doing any serious runs in that kind of heat, and it's obviously going to get worse the deeper you get into training.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Much less. Coaching baseball and work travel have impacted training substantially. (I am down almost 450 miles ridden YTD compared to last year). BUT, I still should not have regressed back to where I was 2 years ago. I have another sprint on 6/26 (where I won my AG last year) and another on 7/10 (where I finished AG 4th by 4 seconds). I am thinking I can get my #### together for the 7/10 one to be my "A" Sprint for the year. The biggie this year is a 10 legs survival tri where I have to cross 3 lakes, swimming with my run gear in my tri suit, only transitions are for the 2 bike legs. 42 total miles, with almost 14 running, 1.4 miles of swimming and the rest on the bike.Less training this year?What's your key event for the year?Motor City Sprint Triathlon Race Report - 500M Swim - 20K Bike - 3.4 Mile RunSwim: Huge wave of around 90 guys. I was killing it for the first 300 meters, very little traffic because of a fast start and I played the river current perfectly to get around the buoy in to the current. Flew down the river leg. When I made my turn for home, I got a Charlie Horse from my neck on my right side all the way down my back and in to my right leg to the point that I couldn't throw my right arm. In a panic, I rolled to my back and got ran over several times. Trying to work things out on my back, the current was pushing me off course. More panic here, so I tried to swim and got to where I could stand (not too easy for a midget like me) and the ran in, which was #######g exhausting. As soon as I pulled the cord on my wetsuit, the cramp eased. Best I can figure, I must have had my wetsuit too low on my body and it was putting pressure on something that caused it to lock up. Ended up doing the swim in 10:17 2:04 per 100 (so I must have been flying early on).'2Young2BBald said:
T1: As Dexter mentioned, 2 different transition areas, so you have to stuff all your gear in a bag so it can be brought to T2 for pick up. I was a mess just trying to get my wind from running in the water, a brutal 2:11.
Bike:
T2: Executed the flying dismount (leaving my shoes on the bike) well. Came to my rack to find it full and a mountain bike with a kick stand down sitting on my gear. This added more time, an even more brutal 1:54.
Run: 26:08 for 7:41 MM. I had nothing left, but still thought I was faster than this.
Suppose it could have been worse, as I did have thoughts of a DNF during the swim. I am hoping the water of here starts to warm up. Contrary to logic, I have had 3 of my 5 best tri swims without a wetsuit. As punishment for a poor performance, I made myself ride my incredibly heavy 1979 Schwinn Continental to the pool for a 1,500 yard recovery swim today.
ThreeThousand
Footballguy
That's BA for a weekday run. I still don't know how you guys have the time for these during the weeks. During my marathon training, I'd run 6-8 milers during the week, and my long run on the weekends (14-18 miles) when I had more time. My weekend - ran a local 5k here near my house for a good cause (hearing aids for underprivileged children). I don't normally run 5ks, because it's sort of a waste to get up, get to the race, and only run 3 miles. I *usually* barely break a sweat over 3 miles. That said, this was a bit different, it was a trail run with very winding trails and enormous hills. I was off my 5k PR by over 2 min.But, came in first in the 30-39 AG with a 23:42. First AG win for me EVER
. To give you an idea of the difficulty of the course, I usually see some high school kid running a 5 minute mile to win 5ks with a 15
x time, winner of this race ran a 19x. Pretty pumped for the result after the beatdown I took in Macon last weekend.
Ned
Footballguy
Holy friggin' crap dude. Isn't that kinda like running back to back 20's? Or is 70 not that far?Was 5 & 7 the only times you fueled up? If so, might want to try another fuel at 15 range which might help with that 18-Ouch. Either way, kick ### job.
Self-employed. Still was in the office by 10am and will be working until 8pm. Have to work some on weekends too.Congrats on the top step podium finish. You guys are representing well.That's BA for a weekday run. I still don't know how you guys have the time for these during the weeks. During my marathon training, I'd run 6-8 milers during the week, and my long run on the weekends (14-18 miles) when I had more time. My weekend - ran a local 5k here near my house for a good cause (hearing aids for underprivileged children). I don't normally run 5ks, because it's sort of a waste to get up, get to the race, and only run 3 miles. I *usually* barely break a sweat over 3 miles. That said, this was a bit different, it was a trail run with very winding trails and enormous hills. I was off my 5k PR by over 2 min.But, came in first in the 30-39 AG with a 23:42. First AG win for me EVER
Not so much. Running beats up my knees and feet. Biking gets the leg muscles. The bike was 3.5 hr and the run 3.15 hr. Still couldn't manage a back to back. Will give it a go either this weekend or next as the final training hurrah before my taper.I fueled up throughout. Ditched the fuel belt for a camel back. Looking forward to someone handing me drinks and not having to lug around whatever 50 or so ounces of water weigh. I'm just shocked at how much of a kick those calories provide.Holy friggin' crap dude. Isn't that kinda like running back to back 20's? Or is 70 not that far?Was 5 & 7 the only times you fueled up? If so, might want to try another fuel at 15 range which might help with that 18-Ouch. Either way, kick ### job.
gruecd
Footballguy
At the risk of sounding flippant, you make time. In fairness, I pretty much make my own hours, too, and I don't have kids, so it's admittedly a little easier for me than most. But when I've got one of Pfitz's mid-week 15-milers, I either start super early, or I do it at night after work. Where there's a will, there's a way.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yeah...kids do make it more difficult...as does having a wife who works some longer hours.Having the TM at the house helps though. And she knows that a couple of hours each day of the weekend I am unavailable.
Kuz
Footballguy
Kind of a dumb question here but do those Elliptical things help at all in getting in running shape. I have been doing that 4 or 5 times a week & ran a 5K with my wife this weekend. I haven't ran in like 7 years but thought I would be fine running 3 miles but man I was beat. I had to struggle to do it in 28 minutes. I thought being in shape would be fine when running only 3 miles but I take it I should of ran a bit.. huh..
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I doubt it. I'm sure they can improve your general cardio fitness to the point that you can run for 5K continuously, but I don't think they work the same muscles that you use for running, and they certainly don't prepare your body for the pounding that you get from running. That said, I know some runners use ellipticals as a means of maintaining fitness when they're injured, so who knows.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Awesome!!! Find the podium spreadsheet link in Sand's sig.But, came in first in the 30-39 AG with a 23:42. First AG win for me EVER
Kuz
Footballguy
yeah - think I need to run at least a few times before I do the next one. I'm not much of a runner so I thought I would be fine but at my age I need to train a bit I guess even if it's only 3 miles - Thanks.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
I don't think so. I've done the elliptical a few times and I feel like I'm barely getting any type of workout. A run is a much more challenging workout for me personally.
scoobygang
Footballguy
I've been using the "30:30" program on an Octane elliptical at my gym, and I think it at least helped my running. It's essentially a tabata sprint protocol, where you do five reps of 30 second sprints followed by 30 second recovery. Then you get 3 minutes of recovery and start the process over. I'm sure doing the same type of protocol on a track would be even better, but I found it useful for increasing my 5K time. I can't really speak to longer distances. The Octane ellipticals are also unique in that I've found that their arm action is legitimately difficult on higher levels.
Dexter
Footballguy
That's about my speed... seriously.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I can do that for long runs on week ends but I start work early during the week. I start at about 5:40 am and have to leave my home a little before 5:00 so there is no way I could run before work. Tomorrow I will wait for sunset to start and see how that goes.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I use them for cross training days. I hope it helps cardio and some muscle growth.
I did just under 6 miles on one today.Edit to add: At least you are burning calories on it. I think it is a good option for cross training. I like to do it after weights.
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Not a crack against ellipticals. They're fine for cross-training, largely because you can do an elliptical and get some cardio while still resting your running muscles, knees, ankles, etc. All I meant is that it's hard to get in shape for running without actually running.I use them for cross training days. I hope it helps cardio and some muscle growth.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Agreed...and I have never been comfortable with the motion of them...so I stay away.Was going do some light weight work today...instead it was cooler and with my son away for the week, I got to get out just before the sun went down for 9.5 on the bike.Good to get out with a bit cooler temps today.Not a crack against ellipticals. They're fine for cross-training, largely because you can do an elliptical and get some cardio while still resting your running muscles, knees, ankles, etc. All I meant is that it's hard to get in shape for running without actually running.I use them for cross training days. I hope it helps cardio and some muscle growth.
Sand
Footballguy
Survival of the Shawangunks? I'm sooooo jealous if so. It is on my "man I wish I could do that" list.
Awesome! Add your stats into the file at the link in my sig.But, came in first in the 30-39 AG with a 23:42. First AG win for me EVER
Hit the road, man! You're in Van 2 and we need to step up our game. Make those Van 1 guys scramble to get the crossover points 'cause we're so fast...That's about my speed... seriously.
El Floppo
Footballguy
My old tri club is all over that race- lots of swimming in cold water. Both of the founding coaches for the club live up there and used to race it every year along with a bunch of my old team mates.... beautiful area.I've checked back out of the thread and running
so I don't know if this has been mentioned but....IRONMAN COMES TO NYC!!!!!
I really wish I was even remotely close to being fit enough/having enough time to sign up for this tomorrow.
Is anybody diving in? An all down-stream swim should make for fast/easy times.
Sand
Footballguy
All kinds of things come to mind here - toxic waste and dead bodies in the Hudson, dodging bullets in NJ, etc.
Of the new IMs, I'd be much more interested in IM Mont Tremblant, to be honest. (Or even better would be St. George, IMO, though it isn't a new sparkly one). I have no interest in IMs, though.
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