Ran a 10k in June (9 Viewers)

[Reginald Cornsilks]

This morning was the longest I've ran both in distance and time. Very slow pace though.

My back is locking up bad right now.

I got sprayed in the face with a sprinkler twice - I swear one of em had chemicals in it.

Had a dog scare the #### out of me.

Ran through the part of the city where it smells like garbage every day - never again.

Good luck to all out there today

 

[Ned]

Out the door at 4:30 for 10mi GA this morning. I was <thisclose> to going back to bed after putting my contacts in. I had next to no desire this morning, but I got through it and had a pretty good run. I think I'm hitting a breakthrough on these MLRs. I averaged 9:33 @ 147 HR - 72 degrees and 80% humidity. I've only had 1 MLR run (9-12mi) that was sub 150 HR and that was last week's 9 miler. I pulled up my running log - All of the runs in this distance that were similar paced runs were 151-160 HR and were all back in March and April when it was much cooler out. I'd kill to have a 50 degree/no humidity day right about now...Keeping this training log gets tedious at times, but it's been a great tool for looking back at similar runs when you have a run that makes you go "damn, that was too good to be true".

Pulling up this post from last week's 10mi GA for reference...This morning's 10mi GA was nothing short of amazing. What a difference cooler temps and a bit more rest will do for ya. I was out the door at 5 this morning and temps felt cooler at 72 degrees and 70% humidity. Funny what a little humidity change will do for the feel. I felt very strong today. I feel so refreshed, I almost feel like I just ran a recovery run. I let HR dictate the run again today and averaged 148 at a 9:17 pace. GA runs should be 136-157 for me (70-81% max) so I was right there in the middle. This is super motivating stuff.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Out the door at 4:30 for 10mi GA this morning. I was <thisclose> to going back to bed after putting my contacts in. I had next to no desire this morning, but I got through it and had a pretty good run. I think I'm hitting a breakthrough on these MLRs. I averaged 9:33 @ 147 HR - 72 degrees and 80% humidity. I've only had 1 MLR run (9-12mi) that was sub 150 HR and that was last week's 9 miler. I pulled up my running log - All of the runs in this distance that were similar paced runs were 151-160 HR and were all back in March and April when it was much cooler out. I'd kill to have a 50 degree/no humidity day right about now...Keeping this training log gets tedious at times, but it's been a great tool for looking back at similar runs when you have a run that makes you go "damn, that was too good to be true".

Pulling up this post from last week's 10mi GA for reference...This morning's 10mi GA was nothing short of amazing. What a difference cooler temps and a bit more rest will do for ya. I was out the door at 5 this morning and temps felt cooler at 72 degrees and 70% humidity. Funny what a little humidity change will do for the feel. I felt very strong today. I feel so refreshed, I almost feel like I just ran a recovery run. I let HR dictate the run again today and averaged 148 at a 9:17 pace. GA runs should be 136-157 for me (70-81% max) so I was right there in the middle. This is super motivating stuff.

I'm not great with the lingo. What's a GA? I had a short 3 mile recovery run where my HR was in the 130's (with the exception of one very short - 0.15 miles - but steep hill where the HR hit 148). 3 miles at 9:36/pace.Felt cool when I started but it was 100% humidity (foggy) and I was sweating pretty good even though I was holding my pace back.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Out the door at 4:30 for 10mi GA this morning. I was <thisclose> to going back to bed after putting my contacts in. I had next to no desire this morning, but I got through it and had a pretty good run. I think I'm hitting a breakthrough on these MLRs. I averaged 9:33 @ 147 HR - 72 degrees and 80% humidity. I've only had 1 MLR run (9-12mi) that was sub 150 HR and that was last week's 9 miler. I pulled up my running log - All of the runs in this distance that were similar paced runs were 151-160 HR and were all back in March and April when it was much cooler out. I'd kill to have a 50 degree/no humidity day right about now...Keeping this training log gets tedious at times, but it's been a great tool for looking back at similar runs when you have a run that makes you go "damn, that was too good to be true".

Pulling up this post from last week's 10mi GA for reference...This morning's 10mi GA was nothing short of amazing. What a difference cooler temps and a bit more rest will do for ya. I was out the door at 5 this morning and temps felt cooler at 72 degrees and 70% humidity. Funny what a little humidity change will do for the feel. I felt very strong today. I feel so refreshed, I almost feel like I just ran a recovery run. I let HR dictate the run again today and averaged 148 at a 9:17 pace. GA runs should be 136-157 for me (70-81% max) so I was right there in the middle. This is super motivating stuff.

Very nice work Nedly. I like the fact that you let your HR dictate your pace. Very good information for the newer crowd to have and try out. Super motivating indeed.

 

[Ned]

Out the door at 4:30 for 10mi GA this morning. I was <thisclose> to going back to bed after putting my contacts in. I had next to no desire this morning, but I got through it and had a pretty good run. I think I'm hitting a breakthrough on these MLRs. I averaged 9:33 @ 147 HR - 72 degrees and 80% humidity. I've only had 1 MLR run (9-12mi) that was sub 150 HR and that was last week's 9 miler. I pulled up my running log - All of the runs in this distance that were similar paced runs were 151-160 HR and were all back in March and April when it was much cooler out. I'd kill to have a 50 degree/no humidity day right about now...Keeping this training log gets tedious at times, but it's been a great tool for looking back at similar runs when you have a run that makes you go "damn, that was too good to be true".

Pulling up this post from last week's 10mi GA for reference...This morning's 10mi GA was nothing short of amazing. What a difference cooler temps and a bit more rest will do for ya. I was out the door at 5 this morning and temps felt cooler at 72 degrees and 70% humidity. Funny what a little humidity change will do for the feel. I felt very strong today. I feel so refreshed, I almost feel like I just ran a recovery run. I let HR dictate the run again today and averaged 148 at a 9:17 pace. GA runs should be 136-157 for me (70-81% max) so I was right there in the middle. This is super motivating stuff.

I'm not great with the lingo. What's a GA? I had a short 3 mile recovery run where my HR was in the 130's (with the exception of one very short - 0.15 miles - but steep hill where the HR hit 148). 3 miles at 9:36/pace.Felt cool when I started but it was 100% humidity (foggy) and I was sweating pretty good even though I was holding my pace back.

GA = General Aerobic from the Pftiz book. It's a similar HR range to the long run.Recovery = <76% of max HRGeneral Aerobic = 70-81%Long/Medium Long = 74-84%Marathon Pace = 79-88%Lactate Threshold = 82-91%VO2 Max = 93-95%Great to see you checking out the HR monitor. Once you figure out your max, it's a great tool.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

After looking at my runner's log...I think sticking around 3 miles per run right now is the safest thing at least for a few weeks.

I've increased the mileage way too quickly and started to get soreness and pain that is going to cause an injury if I keep pushing it.

Just three weeks ago I was topping out at 2.5 miles and I'm already going out there for 4.5 miles over the past few runs and paying for it with pain.

Time to scale it back to 3 miles for 2 more weeks before I worry about increasing the distance right now. I'll work on solid 10 min miles 2 days out of the week and push for a little extra speed on the track on my last run each week but always keep it to 3 miles. I think I bit off more than I can chew way too quickly and that may be the cause of my back locking up and knee soreness

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Just three weeks ago I was topping out at 2.5 miles and I'm already going out there for 4.5 miles over the past few runs and paying for it with pain.

That's definitely too much too soon if you're doing this longer distance on every run. But there's no reason for all of your runs to be the same lenghth. Maybe keep one at 4.5, let the others all stay at 3, and see how that goes for a few weeks. Ned -- Nice run. I'm scheduled for the same run today, but it's going to have to be indoors due to thunderstorms. At least the heat's supposed to break today. We ended up hitting 97 yesterday. I honestly don't mind those days in January where the high is something like 5 above, but that level of heat is intolerable.

 

[Darrinll40]

Got back from my trip late last night. I did get in one measly 3 mile run on Saturday morning, I also ate like a pig most of the time. After driving/riding 1100 miles straight through my legs are sore this morning. I am going to rest up today and get back to the treadmill tomorrow and Thursday, and I have already started back on my eating plan.

I finally caught up the 2 1/2 pages I missed out on since last Wednesday and I lol'd several times.

FYI - I am not a big drinker anymore, haven't had more than 5 or 6 beers a year in over ten years. Last Thursday I went to a place that had a special, large pizza and a pitcher for 10 bucks, we had 5 of each. I had about 6 glasses at that time, went to another place with my brother for 3 more. I was feeling real good after that. Went back to my Mom's place and went to bed and woke up when I had to pee. Standing at the toilet I felt real dizzy and somehow passed out, woke up a few minutes later with my eye aching, and my right hand in the toilet. I got up and went back to bed.

I woke up Friday morning and felt ok, no hangover. When I looked in the mirror I had the inch long scratch under my eye. Somehow I scratched myself on an outside tiled wall corner. Missed my eye by about a 1/4 inch. I am still sore today, but it is getting better.

Hope you all had a great week.

 

[Ned]

Got back from my trip late last night. I did get in one measly 3 mile run on Saturday morning, I also ate like a pig most of the time. After driving/riding 1100 miles straight through my legs are sore this morning. I am going to rest up today and get back to the treadmill tomorrow and Thursday, and I have already started back on my eating plan. I finally caught up the 2 1/2 pages I missed out on since last Wednesday and I lol'd several times. FYI - I am not a big drinker anymore, haven't had more than 5 or 6 beers a year in over ten years. Last Thursday I went to a place that had a special, large pizza and a pitcher for 10 bucks, we had 5 of each. I had about 6 glasses at that time, went to another place with my brother for 3 more. I was feeling real good after that. Went back to my Mom's place and went to bed and woke up when I had to pee. Standing at the toilet I felt real dizzy and somehow passed out, woke up a few minutes later with my eye aching, and my right hand in the toilet. I got up and went back to bed. I woke up Friday morning and felt ok, no hangover. When I looked in the mirror I had the inch long scratch under my eye. Somehow I scratched myself on an outside tiled wall corner. Missed my eye by about a 1/4 inch. I am still sore today, but it is getting better.Hope you all had a great week.

Glad you're OK, but . Collectively having a big bender here, aren't we? Patiently waiting for the "last" shenanigans from PSL.

 

[John Bender]

Did someone say Bender?

 

[sho nuff]

Did someone say Bender?

Don't mess with the bul, you'll get the horns

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Did someone say Bender?

Don't mess with the bul, you'll get the horns

LOL - that's my alias. Was bored I guess.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Just three weeks ago I was topping out at 2.5 miles and I'm already going out there for 4.5 miles over the past few runs and paying for it with pain.

That's definitely too much too soon if you're doing this longer distance on every run. But there's no reason for all of your runs to be the same lenghth. Maybe keep one at 4.5, let the others all stay at 3, and see how that goes for a few weeks. Ned -- Nice run. I'm scheduled for the same run today, but it's going to have to be indoors due to thunderstorms. At least the heat's supposed to break today. We ended up hitting 97 yesterday. I honestly don't mind those days in January where the high is something like 5 above, but that level of heat is intolerable.

Gotcha - will move to

Day 1: 4.5

Day 2: 3

Day 3: 3 with speed (day 3 is always my track day

Day 4: 2.5

Repeat that for 2 weeks and see how I feel

 

[Ned]

Just three weeks ago I was topping out at 2.5 miles and I'm already going out there for 4.5 miles over the past few runs and paying for it with pain.

That's definitely too much too soon if you're doing this longer distance on every run. But there's no reason for all of your runs to be the same lenghth. Maybe keep one at 4.5, let the others all stay at 3, and see how that goes for a few weeks. Ned -- Nice run. I'm scheduled for the same run today, but it's going to have to be indoors due to thunderstorms. At least the heat's supposed to break today. We ended up hitting 97 yesterday. I honestly don't mind those days in January where the high is something like 5 above, but that level of heat is intolerable.

Gotcha - will move to

Day 1: 4.5

Day 2: 3

Day 3: 3 with speed (day 3 is always my track day

Day 4: 2.5

Repeat that for 2 weeks and see how I feel

You may not be doing it this way, but I would not stack those all in a row. Work in a rest day between 2-3 and 3-4, IMO.

 

[Sand]

After looking at my runner's log...I think sticking around 3 miles per run right now is the safest thing at least for a few weeks.

I've increased the mileage way too quickly and started to get soreness and pain that is going to cause an injury if I keep pushing it.

Just three weeks ago I was topping out at 2.5 miles and I'm already going out there for 4.5 miles over the past few runs and paying for it with pain.

Time to scale it back to 3 miles for 2 more weeks before I worry about increasing the distance right now. I'll work on solid 10 min miles 2 days out of the week and push for a little extra speed on the track on my last run each week but always keep it to 3 miles. I think I bit off more than I can chew way too quickly and that may be the cause of my back locking up and knee soreness

I'm not surprised with the hill sprints and such. Those are exponentially harder on your body than typical runs. At where you are you just need to run. No need for hill repeats, sprints, tempos, track work, etc. I firmly believe the overriding key to getting better at this stuff is injury avoidance. Just run. And don't get injured. You'll improve very quickly.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Just three weeks ago I was topping out at 2.5 miles and I'm already going out there for 4.5 miles over the past few runs and paying for it with pain.

That's definitely too much too soon if you're doing this longer distance on every run. But there's no reason for all of your runs to be the same lenghth. Maybe keep one at 4.5, let the others all stay at 3, and see how that goes for a few weeks. Ned -- Nice run. I'm scheduled for the same run today, but it's going to have to be indoors due to thunderstorms. At least the heat's supposed to break today. We ended up hitting 97 yesterday. I honestly don't mind those days in January where the high is something like 5 above, but that level of heat is intolerable.

Gotcha - will move to

Day 1: 4.5

Day 2: 3

Day 3: 3 with speed (day 3 is always my track day

Day 4: 2.5

Repeat that for 2 weeks and see how I feel

You may not be doing it this way, but I would not stack those all in a row. Work in a rest day between 2-3 and 3-4, IMO.

Yeah maybe this wasn't clear.

I go on a Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday/Sunday schedule. I lift on the in between days.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

After looking at my runner's log...I think sticking around 3 miles per run right now is the safest thing at least for a few weeks.

I've increased the mileage way too quickly and started to get soreness and pain that is going to cause an injury if I keep pushing it.

Just three weeks ago I was topping out at 2.5 miles and I'm already going out there for 4.5 miles over the past few runs and paying for it with pain.

Time to scale it back to 3 miles for 2 more weeks before I worry about increasing the distance right now. I'll work on solid 10 min miles 2 days out of the week and push for a little extra speed on the track on my last run each week but always keep it to 3 miles. I think I bit off more than I can chew way too quickly and that may be the cause of my back locking up and knee soreness

I'm not surprised with the hill sprints and such. Those are exponentially harder on your body than typical runs. At where you are you just need to run. No need for hill repeats, sprints, tempos, track work, etc. I firmly believe the overriding key to getting better at this stuff is injury avoidance. Just run. And don't get injured. You'll improve very quickly.

Maybe I'm being stubborn here but the hill sprints have a few benefits for me.

Firstly, I do them right before I do my weight lifting/squats/lunges routine to get the sweat flowing.

They are not extremely tough. The hill I run is a short hill (maybe 40 meters) although it is steep.

I've been slowing building up on these for months now. I started out only doing 5 back in February and it's taken me 6 months to get to 20 of them.

Lastly, I have a VERY difficult dog to deal with (I adopted her from a really bad abusive situation) as such, she is extremely aggressive toward other animals and we live in a tightly packed neighborhood with dog walkers everywhere. I live at the end of a dead end street and this hill is at the end of my street. It's the only place I know where I can get her energy out without running into a situation with another dog. It's secluded and safe and she needs to be exercised. She's a Jack Russell terrier. No exercise means she's hell on wheels all day in my small one bedroom apartment. It's almost mandatory she gets some of this high intensity exercise with me.

I stretch before the hill sprints and I really don't over do it.

I do appreciate the suggestion, maybe I'll just resolve to be extra careful with them going forward.

ETA: Do you wanna tell this face no exercise today?

 

[tri-man 47]

tri-man -- What doctorate are you working on?

_________________________

I'm doing a DBA (doctorate in bus admin) ...a poor man's Ph.D., as I like to say (though they're very similar). The idea is that in a couple of years, I give up my Controller's job and switch over to FT faculty status and finish life as an accounting professor. I've been an adjunct for 24 years, so it's finally making the commitment to it. The need for accounting professors is great (retirements far exceeding newly degreed faculty), and I've always loved teaching. Life was too busy before to pursue the credential. I'm doing it all on-line with Argosy - no great shakes, but the on-line approach really pushes me to research, write, and learn. I'm lovin' it!--

I took last night off from the school work to take my wife and daughter to Paul McCartney's concert at Wrigley Field. What a blast!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

tri-man -- What doctorate are you working on?

_________________________

I'm doing a DBA (doctorate in bus admin) ...a poor man's Ph.D., as I like to say (though they're very similar). The idea is that in a couple of years, I give up my Controller's job and switch over to FT faculty status and finish life as an accounting professor. I've been an adjunct for 24 years, so it's finally making the commitment to it. The need for accounting professors is great (retirements far exceeding newly degreed faculty), and I've always loved teaching. Life was too busy before to pursue the credential. I'm doing it all on-line with Argosy - no great shakes, but the on-line approach really pushes me to research, write, and learn. I'm lovin' it!

Glad you're enjoying the degree. I'd take issue with the description of this as a "poor man's PhD" though. If you've looked at starting salaries for accounting profs versus basically any other field, this is more like "a rich man's PhD."

 

[tri-man 47]

Glad you're enjoying the degree. I'd take issue with the description of this as a "poor man's PhD" though. If you've looked at starting salaries for accounting profs versus basically any other field, this is more like "a rich man's PhD."

...just meaning that the DBA is a bit less strenuous than the Ph.D. (mainly, a shorter time frame of 3 1/2 years versus 4-5 ...I don't have that many years left, right?). But yeah, the salaries are excellent. I should be able to move from my Controller's job to the teaching gig at a comparable salary - BUT then I get the less-stressed academic schedule pace AND summer's off! Hey, I could go hang out with liquors! Well, no. I'd die from exhaustion or social diseases.-

GREAT training, everyone!!!!

Prince Myshkin; walnutz - keep at it guys.

BnB - you know I'll voice support for the marathon. You've raced your way into shape, and you're healing up stronger for it.

Ned - nice HR running!

Darrin - I hope you didn't damage the toilet.

Reginald - I'm a huge fan of hill work. I see it as very efficient and effective training, so keep at it. It yields great payoffs.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Patiently waiting for the "last" shenanigans from PSL.

The last shenanigans have been postponed until Thursday. She felt under the weather from the night before, and I still felt like ###. We postponed until Thursday night. I'm hydrating right now to get ready for it.

Did someone say Bender?

Don't mess with the bul, you'll get the horns

LOL - that's my alias. Was bored I guess.

Sand: So sorry to hear about your "pitiful" 7:07 500 :finger: Thanks for sharing the video, as it is awesome to see how effortless he was prior to the final 100. Unbelievable. I also agree "just run" needs to be done by all a bit more than we do. If/when I ever get fully healthy again, I pray I'm able to spend more time "just running." Reginald: Sprinkler and dogs and garbage, Oh My! I like your new schedule much better than what you are doing. 10% increases in distance per week should be your max. Ned: Another awesome 10 mile run Darrin: While it is funny, so glad you are ok. You might need to explain this a bit further. "...large pizza and a pitcher for 10 bucks, we had 5 of each." 5 pizzas and 5 pitchers each ??________________________________My update:My groin felt worse last night than it has in quite awhile. I think it has to do with not stretching it at all over the past week (Dr.'s orders). I stretched the bejesus out of it this morning, and am going to go back to stretching it 3x per week. I also can't run yet, as I was told I needed to be pain free prior to running. I'm getting incredibly frustrated, as I'm taking steps backward while doing nothing.

 

[Darrinll40]

Patiently waiting for the "last" shenanigans from PSL.

The last shenanigans have been postponed until Thursday. She felt under the weather from the night before, and I still felt like ###. We postponed until Thursday night. I'm hydrating right now to get ready for it.

Did someone say Bender?

Don't mess with the bul, you'll get the horns

LOL - that's my alias. Was bored I guess.

Darrin: While it is funny, so glad you are ok. You might need to explain this a bit further. "...large pizza and a pitcher for 10 bucks, we had 5 of each." 5 pizzas and 5 pitchers each ??

No, there was about 8 of us, but for some reason I drank the most beer. I am such a lightweight that I was feeling the effect after only 3.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Glad you're enjoying the degree. I'd take issue with the description of this as a "poor man's PhD" though. If you've looked at starting salaries for accounting profs versus basically any other field, this is more like "a rich man's PhD."

...just meaning that the DBA is a bit less strenuous than the Ph.D. (mainly, a shorter time frame of 3 1/2 years versus 4-5 ...I don't have that many years left, right?). But yeah, the salaries are excellent. I should be able to move from my Controller's job to the teaching gig at a comparable salary - BUT then I get the less-stressed academic schedule pace AND summer's off! Hey, I could go hang out with liquors! Well, no. I'd die from exhaustion or social diseases.

The world of an academic doesn't suck I'm on a 12 month appointment (76% research), so I don't get summers "off", but it's pretty darn close. The one thing I'm pretty sure you are trained for, is to NOT die from exhaustion. Social diseases are an entirely different problem

I am such a lightweight that I was feeling the effect after only 3.

So cool to have you type the bold

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Patiently waiting for the "last" shenanigans from PSL.

The last shenanigans have been postponed until Thursday. She felt under the weather from the night before, and I still felt like ###. We postponed until Thursday night. I'm hydrating right now to get ready for it.

Did someone say Bender?

Don't mess with the bul, you'll get the horns

LOL - that's my alias. Was bored I guess.

Darrin: While it is funny, so glad you are ok. You might need to explain this a bit further. "...large pizza and a pitcher for 10 bucks, we had 5 of each." 5 pizzas and 5 pitchers each ??

No, there was about 8 of us, but for some reason I drank the most beer. I am such a lightweight that I was feeling the effect after only 3.

Darrin - I've been there. As a former fat guy myself, I gave up most alcohol for almost a year. 2 months ago my closest 2 friends took me out for my birthday and fed me red bulls and vodkas all damn night long. I warned my friend to stop. I told him that I had a low tolerance for alcohol, it took less to get me drunk than when I was 300 lbs, and that red bull makes me want to take an AK47 into my ex wifes house. They didn't listen.After getting kicked out of 2 strip clubs, the night ended at 2 AM in my driveway when I literally attacked both of my friends while they were eating their Burger King and had to be restrained by my landlord who then called the cops on me and it took 2 of them to calm me down. Fighting 2 big dudes at once is not a good look. Ended up sore for a week with bruises all over my body. Had to apologize to my landlord who has young children who saw the whole thing out of their windows and took me 20 minutes to talk the cops out of arresting me. Went outside the next morning to find 2 half eaten Burger King cheese burgers in the driveway, the shirt I was wearing draped over the shrubbery in the yard (apparently I went Incredible Hulk and ripped my shirt off), and some drops of my blood on the hood of my car.Lesson learned for now.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Patiently waiting for the "last" shenanigans from PSL.

The last shenanigans have been postponed until Thursday. She felt under the weather from the night before, and I still felt like ###. We postponed until Thursday night. I'm hydrating right now to get ready for it.

Did someone say Bender?

Don't mess with the bul, you'll get the horns

LOL - that's my alias. Was bored I guess.

Darrin: While it is funny, so glad you are ok. You might need to explain this a bit further. "...large pizza and a pitcher for 10 bucks, we had 5 of each." 5 pizzas and 5 pitchers each ??

No, there was about 8 of us, but for some reason I drank the most beer. I am such a lightweight that I was feeling the effect after only 3.

Darrin - I've been there. As a former fat guy myself, I gave up most alcohol for almost a year. 2 months ago my closest 2 friends took me out for my birthday and fed me red bulls and vodkas all damn night long. I warned my friend to stop. I told him that I had a low tolerance for alcohol, it took less to get me drunk than when I was 300 lbs, and that red bull makes me want to take an AK47 into my ex wifes house. They didn't listen.After getting kicked out of 2 strip clubs, the night ended at 2 AM in my driveway when I literally attacked both of my friends while they were eating their Burger King and had to be restrained by my landlord who then called the cops on me and it took 2 of them to calm me down. Fighting 2 big dudes at once is not a good look. Ended up sore for a week with bruises all over my body. Had to apologize to my landlord who has young children who saw the whole thing out of their windows and took me 20 minutes to talk the cops out of arresting me. Went outside the next morning to find 2 half eaten Burger King cheese burgers in the driveway, the shirt I was wearing draped over the shrubbery in the yard (apparently I went Incredible Hulk and ripped my shirt off), and some drops of my blood on the hood of my car.Lesson learned for now.

Whoa. Note to self -- don't get Reginald angry.

 

[BassNBrew]

Still looking for suggestions on a 6.5 week marathon training plan.

 

[gruecd]

Still looking for suggestions on a 6.5 week marathon training plan.

What's your weekly mileage at right now?

 

[gruecd]

Gruecd -- how's the calf feeling? I hope its getting healed up nice for ya.

I second this. I had this happen last year, so I'm quite familiar with the sensation. Hope all is ok. I managed to heal it up using the "calf heart attack" treatment I read up about.

It's getting better. I was in a pissy mood last night, so I put on one of the ridiculously expensive Zoot compression sleeves that I bought and ran a fast (7:39/mile) 5-miler to burn off some aggression. Definitely not the smartest idea in the world, but it had to be done. Wasn't too much worse for the wear afterwards, so I think I'm gonna try something in the double-digit range tonight. But nice and slow.Sorry I don't have time for shoutouts, but I'm crazy busy at work, and I'm going to Lollapalooza this weekend, so I've got tons of crap to do before I leave. That being said, you guys have me LMAO with some of your stories.

 

[Ned]

Still looking for suggestions on a 6.5 week marathon training plan.

You tapered for 2 weeks last time, right? That gives you 4.5 weeks to really train. I don't know of anything that short, but maybe we can collectively help build one?How much running have you been doing since the last marathon?

 

[pigskinliquors]

Whoa. Note to self -- don't get Reginald angry drunk.

BnB: Go here to get a customized training plan. You might need to create an account if you don't have one. Grue: I'm not surprised you are trying to run through it. I wouldn't advise it, but I'm not surprised.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Still looking for suggestions on a 6.5 week marathon training plan.

You tapered for 2 weeks last time, right? That gives you 4.5 weeks to really train. I don't know of anything that short, but maybe we can collectively help build one?How much running have you been doing since the last marathon?

Pfitz has several suggested plans for back-to-back marathons. Surely there's a 6 week schedule in there someplace.

 

[Ned]

Gruecd -- how's the calf feeling? I hope its getting healed up nice for ya.

I second this. I had this happen last year, so I'm quite familiar with the sensation. Hope all is ok. I managed to heal it up using the "calf heart attack" treatment I read up about.

It's getting better. I was in a pissy mood last night, so I put on one of the ridiculously expensive Zoot compression sleeves that I bought and ran a fast (7:39/mile) 5-miler to burn off some aggression. Definitely not the smartest idea in the world, but it had to be done. Wasn't too much worse for the wear afterwards, so I think I'm gonna try something in the double-digit range tonight. But nice and slow.Sorry I don't have time for shoutouts, but I'm crazy busy at work, and I'm going to Lollapalooza this weekend, so I've got tons of crap to do before I leave. That being said, you guys have me LMAO with some of your stories.

The compression sleeve was a life saver for me. I didn't run with it, but I put it on immediately after running as part of recovery. That and a healthy dose of ice and rotation shoes paid off huge.

 

[gruecd]

Grue: I'm not surprised you are trying to run through it. I wouldn't advise it, but I'm not surprised.

I know. I'm an idiot addict.

 

[gruecd]

Pfitz has several suggested plans for back-to-back marathons. Surely there's a 6 week schedule in there someplace.

If he asks nicely, I might even email it to him.

 

[Sand]

Hey, I could go hang out with liquors! Well, no. I'd die from exhaustion or social diseases.

ETA: Do you wanna tell this face no exercise today?

I understand - just sayin' that the biggest setbacks are always injuries.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Grue: I'm not surprised you are trying to run through it. I wouldn't advise it, but I'm not surprised.

I know. I'm an idiot addict.

As my Dr. says: "I'd rather try to talk a crack addict out of doing crack, than a runner out of running."

 

[BassNBrew]

Still looking for suggestions on a 6.5 week marathon training plan.

You tapered for 2 weeks last time, right? That gives you 4.5 weeks to really train. I don't know of anything that short, but maybe we can collectively help build one?How much running have you been doing since the last marathon?

Taper - About 1.5 weeks coming off 103 on the bike and 13 mile run; with a hard 5 miler and 65 mile bike the two days prior. I think I'm comfortable with a 1 to 1.5 wk taper, but Gru would probably consider my whole schedule a taper. Running - None, nada, zippo, null, void, lazy ####. OK...4 mi last Sat and 2 on Sun (hill repeats)MileageJuly - 6 runs - 7, 5, 26, 4, 2June - 8 runs - 18, 6, 6, 20, 6, 17, 14, 3, plus 8-10 bike rides Help me build something.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Still looking for suggestions on a 6.5 week marathon training plan.

You tapered for 2 weeks last time, right? That gives you 4.5 weeks to really train. I don't know of anything that short, but maybe we can collectively help build one?How much running have you been doing since the last marathon?

Taper - About 1.5 weeks coming off 103 on the bike and 13 mile run; with a hard 5 miler and 65 mile bike the two days prior. I think I'm comfortable with a 1 to 1.5 wk taper, but Gru would probably consider my whole schedule a taper. Running - None, nada, zippo, null, void, lazy ####. OK...4 mi last Sat and 2 on Sun (hill repeats)MileageJuly - 6 runs - 7, 5, 26, 4, 2June - 8 runs - 18, 6, 6, 20, 6, 17, 14, 3, plus 8-10 bike rides Help me build something.

I'll give it a shot:Runs on Tu, Thu., Fri, Sun.; no speed work (= you need to build miles fast); Fridays run hilly route. wk1: 6, 6, 4, 8wk2: 6, 6, 4, 10wk3: 6, 7, 4, 12wk4: 6, 7, 4, 14wk5: 6, 7, 4, 16wk6: 6, 5, 4, 8wk7: race that mofo and post a hilarious, well-thought out race report...after race stalking.

 

[gruecd]

Did a relatively easy 8 miles tonight at 8:16 pace. No problems with the calf, so hopefully I'm getting beyond that. Was gonna do 12, but it was 77° with a ridiculous dewpoint of 75°. Couldn't ####### breathe out there. :X

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Did a relatively easy 8 miles tonight at 8:16 pace. No problems with the calf, so hopefully I'm getting beyond that. Was gonna do 12, but it was 77° with a ridiculous dewpoint of 75°. Couldn't ####### breathe out there. :X

Good to hear man.

 

[Ned]

Did a relatively easy 8 miles tonight at 8:16 pace. No problems with the calf, so hopefully I'm getting beyond that. Was gonna do 12, but it was 77° with a ridiculous dewpoint of 75°. Couldn't ####### breathe out there. :X

It sounds like whatever was ailing your calf has moved to the vag.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Did a relatively easy 8 miles tonight at 8:16 pace. No problems with the calf, so hopefully I'm getting beyond that. Was gonna do 12, but it was 77° with a ridiculous dewpoint of 75°. Couldn't ####### breathe out there. :X

It sounds like whatever was ailing your calf has moved to the vag.

 

[BassNBrew]

Did a relatively easy 8 miles tonight at 8:16 pace. No problems with the calf, so hopefully I'm getting beyond that. Was gonna do 12, but it was 77° with a ridiculous dewpoint of 75°. Couldn't ####### breathe out there. :X

It sounds like whatever was ailing your calf has moved to the vag.

9 miles last night, probably in the low 90's. Pretty much a steady 9:30 - 9:35 pace after a 9 min fist mile. HR was in the 150's which is about 10 bpm higher then where it should have been.It's always humid here. High today is going to be 100+, low of 74. 90+ degree days expected as far as the eye can see.

 

[gruecd]

Did a relatively easy 8 miles tonight at 8:16 pace. No problems with the calf, so hopefully I'm getting beyond that. Was gonna do 12, but it was 77° with a ridiculous dewpoint of 75°. Couldn't ####### breathe out there. :X

It sounds like whatever was ailing your calf has moved to the vag.

Nice. Jerk.

 

[BassNBrew]

So what's up with the Bourbon Chase?

 

[Sand]

So what's up with the Bourbon Chase?

We're still running it.But its too darn hot down here to train properly. Other than that we are good to go.

 

[Ned]

There's some good #### happening here. 4mi recovery run today and I felt like I was floating. You know that feeling where its just effortless? No jarring, no straining, no aches. Just sheer bliss.

137 HR (71% of max) @ 9:40 pace

ETA: lower temps are a good reason for it. 80 degrees/71% humidity.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Did a relatively easy 8 miles tonight at 8:16 pace. No problems with the calf, so hopefully I'm getting beyond that. Was gonna do 12, but it was 77° with a ridiculous dewpoint of 75°. Couldn't ####### breathe out there. :X

It sounds like whatever was ailing your calf has moved to the vag.

Just normal weather down here

I did a full stretch routine 4x yesterday, and did the leg weight routine they had me doing during PT. I plan on doing this for another week, praying that stretching + strength will get rid of this ####. I'm also contemplating deep tissue massage to help loosen up my groin/hips Do I need to call an Asian masseuse to get the proper "release"

I have virtually no flexibility in my hips on my right side, and likely am not going to get any better until it does loosen up.

 

[Ned]

Did a relatively easy 8 miles tonight at 8:16 pace. No problems with the calf, so hopefully I'm getting beyond that. Was gonna do 12, but it was 77° with a ridiculous dewpoint of 75°. Couldn't ####### breathe out there. :X

It sounds like whatever was ailing your calf has moved to the vag.

Just normal weather down here

I did a full stretch routine 4x yesterday, and did the leg weight routine they had me doing during PT. I plan on doing this for another week, praying that stretching + strength will get rid of this ####. I'm also contemplating deep tissue massage to help loosen up my groin/hips Do I need to call an Asian masseuse to get the proper "release"

I have virtually no flexibility in my hips on my right side, and likely am not going to get any better until it does loosen up.

I strongly recommend seeing a certified MAT therapist. I can't say enough good things about my MT who worked with me on MAT.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Mid-70s, no humidity to speak of, five easy recovery miles. Good times.