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Ran a 10k in June (8 Viewers)

Oh, and very excited looking at the forecasts for next week...highs in the low 80s or high 70s even.

Tired of the mid to high 90s.
Yeah, looks like I picked a good time to start running. The weather has been great here in NY. I can't imagine what it's like in the humid 90's or the 100's in AZ and other places. I'm sure many people have given up when they start doing it in those conditions.
Where there's a will, there's a way. Here in Wisconsin, the month of August was one of the warmest ever, and I set a monthly mileage PR. Just saying.
Same here. It was only 1/3 of what Grue did but still I set a monthly mileage PR in the hottest mos of the year. I will add it was a record setting mos for heat here.
 
'Darrinll40 said:
Oh, and very excited looking at the forecasts for next week...highs in the low 80s or high 70s even.Tired of the mid to high 90s.
I'm positively giddy looking at the 10-day forecast here. Highs in the 60s to lower 70s, and overnight lows in the 40s and 50s. Can't wait for some nice, chilly morning runs!!!! :excited:
I will remember your excitement in January, when I am running in highs of 60's and lows of 40's, and you are running in freezing slush. :boxing: Tomorrow we are supposed to have a low of 72, so my 5-6 miler might be nice. Though I am sure the humidity will be pushing 100%.
:goodposting: I will be with you Darrin. I will be a little better off as my humidity will be less then 10%.
 
Oh, and very excited looking at the forecasts for next week...highs in the low 80s or high 70s even.Tired of the mid to high 90s.
I'm positively giddy looking at the 10-day forecast here. Highs in the 60s to lower 70s, and overnight lows in the 40s and 50s. Can't wait for some nice, chilly morning runs!!!! :excited:
Now you are pissing me off.
Jeez. Four done tonight at 7pm at 92F and 60% humidity. 8:23 pace. I think at 50F that is somewhere in the 4:15/mile range. :boxing:
 
:lmao:

Happened to check my resting HR today, it is about 65.

Before I started running 9 months ago I believe I was around 90.

Jamny I was in the same boat as you when I started, with my conditioning being the main thing holding me back.
Holy ####, really?
Yeah scary.
That is scary. I work in an OR and I am always surprised at people with 100+ resting HR and they dont notice it. Pretty sure I would notice that and be freaking out.
 
'Darrinll40 said:
Oh, and very excited looking at the forecasts for next week...highs in the low 80s or high 70s even.Tired of the mid to high 90s.
I'm positively giddy looking at the 10-day forecast here. Highs in the 60s to lower 70s, and overnight lows in the 40s and 50s. Can't wait for some nice, chilly morning runs!!!! :excited:
I will remember your excitement in January, when I am running in highs of 60's and lows of 40's, and you are running in freezing slush. :boxing: Tomorrow we are supposed to have a low of 72, so my 5-6 miler might be nice. Though I am sure the humidity will be pushing 100%.
:goodposting: I will be with you Darrin. I will be a little better off as my humidity will be less then 10%.
6 miles at 72 with 93% humidity. Prosopis, :finger:Fairly easy, but not running that far in a few weeks made it a bit harder. Or it may feel that way because the last mile was the fastest.1 - 10:57 It was dark and I was watching out for bears. Yes, there has been a bear sighted in my neighborhood a few blocks from my house. I don't run that way, anymore.2 - 10:133 - 10:034 - 10:125 - 9:556 - 9:461:01:07 total.
 
Woke up this morning to storms and near-100% humidity, so I decided to bag the race, and I went back to bed. :sleep:

I might race tomorrow instead, or I might just run long and skip the tune-up race completely. Either way, schedule is all effed up. Stooopid weather. :rant:

 
75* with 65% humidity to start.

10 miles and a big fat wall later it was 85* with 55% humidity.

Lost 7 pounds during the run. Was wanting 13 today...by 9 miles I knew it would not happen. Couldn't keep the HR under 170 for the last 2 miles of it and I was fading. Shirt, hat, and shorts were completely drenched. Took in all the water I had with me (total of 40 oz over that 10 miles).

I am blaming it not on the heat...but at the old guy in the speedo I saw as I looped past our pool at about mile 7.

 
10 miles with my wife this morning. She's training for Tuscon (full) in December, so this is one of the very first "long runs" for her. She does her long runs way too fast (at MP, essentially -- 8:45/mi or so), but I'll just look at it as a GA run and call it good. When it's in the upper 60s with no wind or humidity to speak of, it's not that hard to pick up the pace a little.

 
Woke up this morning to storms and near-100% humidity, so I decided to bag the race, and I went back to bed. :sleep: I might race tomorrow instead, or I might just run long and skip the tune-up race completely. Either way, schedule is all effed up. Stooopid weather. :rant:
That sucks, sorry man I know you really wanted to hit that race.
 
10 miles with my wife this morning. She's training for Tuscon (full) in December, so this is one of the very first "long runs" for her. She does her long runs way too fast (at MP, essentially -- 8:45/mi or so), but I'll just look at it as a GA run and call it good. When it's in the upper 60s with no wind or humidity to speak of, it's not that hard to pick up the pace a little.
That is what I am training for. Will you be in town with her?
 
I did 15 miles today. Same story hot and humid. I did start at 4:30 am to beat the heat and I felt pretty good until the sun came up. I had a hard time keeping my HR where I needed it. I have noticed lately that we have a lot of dirt/dust in the air. I wonder how much that effects me? Anyway I got it done but the avg pace was 1min worse then my 14 miles last week. Kind of strange as I was so happy with how ell I did last week. Was last week a fluke :confused:

I had the worst calf pain I have ever felt after a run. It really really hurt. I dont know why?????

I am racing Monday :excited: Anyone else have a race this weekend?

 
Just bit the bullet and signed up at the gym. I'm going crazy while my knee heals.

At the very least there's no excuse for me not to use an elliptical or exercise bike to keep my endurance up.

 
10 miles with my wife this morning. She's training for Tuscon (full) in December, so this is one of the very first "long runs" for her. She does her long runs way too fast (at MP, essentially -- 8:45/mi or so), but I'll just look at it as a GA run and call it good. When it's in the upper 60s with no wind or humidity to speak of, it's not that hard to pick up the pace a little.
That is what I am training for. Will you be in town with her?
No, her dad retired there a few years ago, so she'll fly in, stay with him for a couple of days, and fly home.
 
Woke up this morning to storms and near-100% humidity, so I decided to bag the race, and I went back to bed. :sleep:
That's a smart move, because when you make your sub-3 hour marathon attempt, the weather is guaranteed to be perfect. ;) I went to our university's cross country meet yesterday afternoon - over 90 degrees and humid. They should have kept the runners on the cool bus until race time to keep body temps down. I was at the point on the course where our lead female runner dropped out ...had to help her get back to the staging area since she was close to passing out. We got some Gatorade in her, and we put her in a friend's car to cool down. It was scary for a bit, though.Hot and humid here in Chicago this a.m. I didn't get out until mid-morning (after doing yard work). I got in 5 miles - 1 each up and down; 3 x 1 mile repeats at 6:37, 6:27, 6:25. I SO did not want to do that last one, but I knew I needed to HTFU, and I wanted to know if the first one was slower because I wasn't fully stretched or if the second was faster because I overcompensated for the first one.
 
Woke up this morning to storms and near-100% humidity, so I decided to bag the race, and I went back to bed. :sleep:
That's a smart move, because when you make your sub-3 hour marathon attempt, the weather is guaranteed to be perfect. ;)
If the weather is anything close to what it was this morning, I'll be finding another race to make my sub-3 marathon attempt. I can guarantee you that much. Smartass.
 
'gruecd said:
'tri-man 47 said:
'gruecd said:
Woke up this morning to storms and near-100% humidity, so I decided to bag the race, and I went back to bed. :sleep:
That's a smart move, because when you make your sub-3 hour marathon attempt, the weather is guaranteed to be perfect. ;)
If the weather is anything close to what it was this morning, I'll be finding another race to make my sub-3 marathon attempt. I can guarantee you that much. Smartass.
I'd tell you two to get a room, but I'm pretty sure that tri-man is saving himself for Wraith's mom.
 
'gruecd said:
'tri-man 47 said:
'gruecd said:
Woke up this morning to storms and near-100% humidity, so I decided to bag the race, and I went back to bed. :sleep:
That's a smart move, because when you make your sub-3 hour marathon attempt, the weather is guaranteed to be perfect. ;)
If the weather is anything close to what it was this morning, I'll be finding another race to make my sub-3 marathon attempt. I can guarantee you that much. Smartass. Moron.
Fixed. :thumbup:
 
'IvanKaramazov said:
'prosopis said:
'IvanKaramazov said:
10 miles with my wife this morning. She's training for Tuscon (full) in December, so this is one of the very first "long runs" for her. She does her long runs way too fast (at MP, essentially -- 8:45/mi or so), but I'll just look at it as a GA run and call it good. When it's in the upper 60s with no wind or humidity to speak of, it's not that hard to pick up the pace a little.
That is what I am training for. Will you be in town with her?
No, her dad retired there a few years ago, so she'll fly in, stay with him for a couple of days, and fly home.
To bad it would have been fun to meet up.
 
I'd tell you two to get a room, but I'm pretty sure that tri-man is saving himself for Wraith's mom.
:lmao:
:lmao: :lmao: grue - Sucks about the weather, but you have the eyes on the right prize. Selfishly, I was looking forward to coming here and reading about a 1:25.

prosopis - Could it have been dehydration cramps? How's it feel today? Don't be afraid to ice it. If you have compression sleeve(s), I'd slap that on for a few hours while you mill around the house. What are you racing on Monday?

sho - Don't let the bad run get you down. I've had some of my best runs on the heels of a blow up run. You'll bounce back. Still getting in 10 in those ####ty conditions is still great.

On my end, I had 7mi GA w/ 8 striders. I decided to sleep in and run later in the AM, but it was still cool out. We're really getting lucky with this weather (70 + 80%). Another really solid run - 149 @ 9:01.

grue - On the Pfitz book it had "p.m." next to the striders. Is that intended to mean a 2nd run where you just do the striders only? Seems kind of lame.

 
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Ugh 10 mile run did not go very well. Just slow. Around 9:45 a mile or so. Didn't have it from the beginning but I really need to get my endurance up

 
sho - Don't let the bad run get you down. I've had some of my best runs on the heels of a blow up run. You'll bounce back. Still getting in 10 in those ####ty conditions is still great.
Oh, its not...I knew early today it was not going to be good really. (I will also blame the wife for keeping me up last night).And I laughed with her that its amazing from where I started that doing 10 miles is now a "bad" run.

 
sho - Don't let the bad run get you down. I've had some of my best runs on the heels of a blow up run. You'll bounce back. Still getting in 10 in those ####ty conditions is still great.
Oh, its not...I knew early today it was not going to be good really. (I will also blame the wife for keeping me up last night).And I laughed with her that its amazing from where I started that doing 10 miles is now a "bad" run.
:thumbup: Dontcha love that?! Just wait until you can fall out of bed and run 10 whenever you want.
 
Ned you are correct it could have been dehydration as I am still battling fluid intake as I run. I have foolishly been persistent in running without enough water. I am determined to get a fuel belt. I hate circling back home to replenish. I know I am stupid in being so stubborn.

I am racing this http://azroadrunners.org/races/detail/saguaro

I am worried about the hills as I have done zero hill training. If you click the link and scroll down some you can see the topo on the left hand side. It is intimidating.

Ned- You are still doing HR training, correct? If you are how do you do the GA runs with strides? With the heat we have here I have just skipped the strides. I plan on starting them when the weather cools.

 
sho - Don't let the bad run get you down. I've had some of my best runs on the heels of a blow up run. You'll bounce back. Still getting in 10 in those ####ty conditions is still great.
Oh, its not...I knew early today it was not going to be good really. (I will also blame the wife for keeping me up last night).And I laughed with her that its amazing from where I started that doing 10 miles is now a "bad" run.
:thumbup: Dontcha love that?! Just wait until you can fall out of bed and run 10 whenever you want.
I feel I could do that with 6-8 now.Its amazing during runs going bad some times that I think to myself...hey, only 3 miles left.

When a few months ago running 3 miles seemed incredibly hard.

 
I am racing this http://azroadrunners.org/races/detail/saguaro

I am worried about the hills as I have done zero hill training. If you click the link and scroll down some you can see the topo on the left hand side. It is intimidating.
Pfft. Just looks like one hill to me. :boxing: ---

On my end a nice 5.25 mile run today. 8:20 average in cooler than normal weather thanks to Lee (humid, though). Going to try for 9 tomorrow. Next few days are looking to be cool, but constant rain. I'll just throw on my tri unitard and look like a complete idiot when I head out.

 
Ned you are correct it could have been dehydration as I am still battling fluid intake as I run. I have foolishly been persistent in running without enough water. I am determined to get a fuel belt. I hate circling back home to replenish. I know I am stupid in being so stubborn.
Seriously. You know that it's affecting your performance, and yet you refuse to do anything about it. What am I missing? :confused:
 
Ned you are correct it could have been dehydration as I am still battling fluid intake as I run. I have foolishly been persistent in running without enough water. I am determined to get a fuel belt. I hate circling back home to replenish. I know I am stupid in being so stubborn.
Seriously. You know that it's affecting your performance, and yet you refuse to do anything about it. What am I missing? :confused:
For my long runs, I stop at a convenience store near mid-distance and get a powerade and pack of sweettarts.Did my longest run of the year yesterday - 13.5 miles.
 
Put up a tremendous run this AM. Goal was 16 miles with 12 miles at marathon goal race pace (7:55).

Killed it:

Two mile warmup:

Mile 1: 8:32

Mile 2: 8:04

Then I started cutting loose:

Mile 3: 7:48

Mile 4: 7:48

Mile 5: 7:41

Mile 6: 7:53

Mile 7: 7:44

Mile 8: 7:38

Mile 9: 7:44

Mile 10: 7:48

Mile 11: 7:40

Mile 12: 7:45

Mile 13: 8:16 (retrieved my secondary water bottle and took a Gu)

Slowed down a bit in the home stretch, now that I was done with the speed portion.

Mile 14: 8:07

Mile 15: 8:15

And one last burst of energy to finish strong.

Mile 16: 7:27!

YEAH! GET SOME.

Overall: 16 miles, 7:53 pace

Feeling awesome right now. :boxing:

 
Great run workhorse.

Trying to figure out if I will run or ride today. Depends on how the weather goes on.

Was going to rest it up...but after yesterday's run, thought I might get out for 4-5 today or a nice 15 mile ride.

 
Ned you are correct it could have been dehydration as I am still battling fluid intake as I run. I have foolishly been persistent in running without enough water. I am determined to get a fuel belt. I hate circling back home to replenish. I know I am stupid in being so stubborn.
Seriously. You know that it's affecting your performance, and yet you refuse to do anything about it. What am I missing? :confused:
I am kind of a stubborn idiot. * I really do intend to do something about it. I just cant stop myself from thinking it will be cool here soon and not an issue. It makes me want to hold out. :bag:

 
Put up a tremendous run this AM. Goal was 16 miles with 12 miles at marathon goal race pace (7:55).Killed it:Two mile warmup:Mile 1: 8:32Mile 2: 8:04Then I started cutting loose:Mile 3: 7:48Mile 4: 7:48Mile 5: 7:41Mile 6: 7:53Mile 7: 7:44Mile 8: 7:38Mile 9: 7:44Mile 10: 7:48Mile 11: 7:40Mile 12: 7:45Mile 13: 8:16 (retrieved my secondary water bottle and took a Gu)Slowed down a bit in the home stretch, now that I was done with the speed portion.Mile 14: 8:07Mile 15: 8:15And one last burst of energy to finish strong.Mile 16: 7:27!YEAH! GET SOME.Overall: 16 miles, 7:53 paceFeeling awesome right now. :boxing:
Damn, that is killer!!!!!!
 
Ned you are correct it could have been dehydration as I am still battling fluid intake as I run. I have foolishly been persistent in running without enough water. I am determined to get a fuel belt. I hate circling back home to replenish. I know I am stupid in being so stubborn.
Seriously. You know that it's affecting your performance, and yet you refuse to do anything about it. What am I missing? :confused:
I am kind of a stubborn idiot. * I really do intend to do something about it. I just cant stop myself from thinking it will be cool here soon and not an issue. It makes me want to hold out. :bag:
Even if it cooled off, you would still need water for your long runs.
 
grue - On the Pfitz book it had "p.m." next to the striders. Is that intended to mean a 2nd run where you just do the striders only? Seems kind of lame.
Where in the plan? I think I remember that being a typo.
It's on the 18/55 plan, page 157. First Saturday.Workhorse - What a fantastic run! Holy crap dude.

prosopis - Just figure something out, man. This isn't a HTFU thing where not drinking enough is making you stronger. You're being stubborn with something that could have some serious consequences.

________________________

Well today was a great lesson in proper fueling. Total blow up run, but I know exactly why. I think. :lol:

I did 18 this morning. I was cruising along, but I could tell my legs were more tired than usual. Even with the tired legs, I was holding a great pace and my HR was in check. Around 10ish I noticed my legs getting very tired. Like, wobbly tired. I had planned on taking the rest of my Gu Chomps at 11, but with the wobbly legs and a growling stomach, I took them right then at 10.5 or so.

For the next mile or so, I had to fight to keep my legs turning over, but that quickly went away. Huh, OK I must be starving for energy. I focused on staying relaxed, fluid, etc and rebounded well. Until about 16.5 when it all came crashing down. Literally. I felt that wobbly feel leg feeling again, but this time it wasn't so gradual. Within what seemed like a tenth of a mile of me realizing my legs were falling apart, I literally crashed and took a header. I saved myself from total embarassment and caught myself with my hands, but still. Ooooof.

I walked the next tenth or so, and gave it another go. I hit a small incline and my legs were done. I walked the next quarter or so and somehow managed to "run" the last mile back to the house. What a humbling experience, but I'm 95% sure it was a lack of fuel. The telling thing to me was the way my body reacted to getting the chomps at 10.5. That was a pretty clear response. I hate putting 18mi worth of splits in a long post, but it's pretty telling.

1 - 135 @ 9:49

2 - 136 @ 9:39

3 - 140 @ 9:35

4 - 142 @ 9:36

5 - 144 @ 9:36

6 - 150 @ 9:26

7 - 152 @ 9:16 (big downhill)

8 - 150 @ 9:31

9 - 151 @ 9:51

10 - 150 @ 10:05

11 - 152 @ 9:35

12 - 158 @ 9:35 (going up the hill I went down at 7)

13 - 154 @ 9:41

14 - 156 @ 9:28

15 - 159 @ 9:23

16 - 162 @ 9:32

17 - 158 @ 11:02

18 - 147 @ 11:49

 
Put up a tremendous run this AM. Goal was 16 miles with 12 miles at marathon goal race pace (7:55).Killed it:Two mile warmup:Mile 1: 8:32Mile 2: 8:04Then I started cutting loose:Mile 3: 7:48Mile 4: 7:48Mile 5: 7:41Mile 6: 7:53Mile 7: 7:44Mile 8: 7:38Mile 9: 7:44Mile 10: 7:48Mile 11: 7:40Mile 12: 7:45Mile 13: 8:16 (retrieved my secondary water bottle and took a Gu)Slowed down a bit in the home stretch, now that I was done with the speed portion.Mile 14: 8:07Mile 15: 8:15And one last burst of energy to finish strong.Mile 16: 7:27!YEAH! GET SOME.Overall: 16 miles, 7:53 paceFeeling awesome right now. :boxing:
Damn, that is killer!!!!!!
:goodposting: wow.
 
Ned you are correct it could have been dehydration as I am still battling fluid intake as I run. I have foolishly been persistent in running without enough water. I am determined to get a fuel belt. I hate circling back home to replenish. I know I am stupid in being so stubborn.
Seriously. You know that it's affecting your performance, and yet you refuse to do anything about it. What am I missing? :confused:
I am kind of a stubborn idiot. * I really do intend to do something about it. I just cant stop myself from thinking it will be cool here soon and not an issue. It makes me want to hold out. :bag:
Even if it cooled off, you would still need water for your long runs.
What he said. Seriously, handhelds/fuel belts cost like $20. Stop being stupid and go buy one.
 
Put up a tremendous run this AM. Goal was 16 miles with 12 miles at marathon goal race pace (7:55).Killed it:Two mile warmup:Mile 1: 8:32Mile 2: 8:04Then I started cutting loose:Mile 3: 7:48Mile 4: 7:48Mile 5: 7:41Mile 6: 7:53Mile 7: 7:44Mile 8: 7:38Mile 9: 7:44Mile 10: 7:48Mile 11: 7:40Mile 12: 7:45Mile 13: 8:16 (retrieved my secondary water bottle and took a Gu)Slowed down a bit in the home stretch, now that I was done with the speed portion.Mile 14: 8:07Mile 15: 8:15And one last burst of energy to finish strong.Mile 16: 7:27!YEAH! GET SOME.Overall: 16 miles, 7:53 paceFeeling awesome right now. :boxing:
Damn, that is killer!!!!!!
:goodposting: wow.
:thumbup:
 
Ned you are correct it could have been dehydration as I am still battling fluid intake as I run. I have foolishly been persistent in running without enough water. I am determined to get a fuel belt. I hate circling back home to replenish. I know I am stupid in being so stubborn.
Seriously. You know that it's affecting your performance, and yet you refuse to do anything about it. What am I missing? :confused:
I am kind of a stubborn idiot. * I really do intend to do something about it. I just cant stop myself from thinking it will be cool here soon and not an issue. It makes me want to hold out. :bag:
Even if it cooled off, you would still need water for your long runs.
What he said. Seriously, handhelds/fuel belts cost like $20. Stop being stupid and go buy one.
I ordered an amphipod runlite 2+ fuel belt. It was almost $40.00 :rant: On top of being stubborn when it comes to pushing things to the limit I am very cheap/frugal/I dont have lots of disposable cash.

I know you guys are right.

Ned- This may not be a surprise to you or anyone here but I dont have to read the heat stroke thing. Sadly I have been a victim :bag: I do have the luxury of working some where I can get an IV when ever I want and I have used those services.

I am pretty stoked to get the belt.

http://www.amphipod.com/products/hydration/runlite-hydration/runlite-airstretch-series/runlite-airstretch-2-0

I did find it cheaper on Amazon.

 
grue - On the Pfitz book it had "p.m." next to the striders. Is that intended to mean a 2nd run where you just do the striders only? Seems kind of lame.
Where in the plan? I think I remember that being a typo.
It's on the 18/55 plan, page 157. First Saturday.Workhorse - What a fantastic run! Holy crap dude.

prosopis - Just figure something out, man. This isn't a HTFU thing where not drinking enough is making you stronger. You're being stubborn with something that could have some serious consequences.

________________________

Well today was a great lesson in proper fueling. Total blow up run, but I know exactly why. I think. :lol:

I did 18 this morning. I was cruising along, but I could tell my legs were more tired than usual. Even with the tired legs, I was holding a great pace and my HR was in check. Around 10ish I noticed my legs getting very tired. Like, wobbly tired. I had planned on taking the rest of my Gu Chomps at 11, but with the wobbly legs and a growling stomach, I took them right then at 10.5 or so.

For the next mile or so, I had to fight to keep my legs turning over, but that quickly went away. Huh, OK I must be starving for energy. I focused on staying relaxed, fluid, etc and rebounded well. Until about 16.5 when it all came crashing down. Literally. I felt that wobbly feel leg feeling again, but this time it wasn't so gradual. Within what seemed like a tenth of a mile of me realizing my legs were falling apart, I literally crashed and took a header. I saved myself from total embarassment and caught myself with my hands, but still. Ooooof.

I walked the next tenth or so, and gave it another go. I hit a small incline and my legs were done. I walked the next quarter or so and somehow managed to "run" the last mile back to the house. What a humbling experience, but I'm 95% sure it was a lack of fuel. The telling thing to me was the way my body reacted to getting the chomps at 10.5. That was a pretty clear response. I hate putting 18mi worth of splits in a long post, but it's pretty telling.

1 - 135 @ 9:49

2 - 136 @ 9:39

3 - 140 @ 9:35

4 - 142 @ 9:36

5 - 144 @ 9:36

6 - 150 @ 9:26

7 - 152 @ 9:16 (big downhill)

8 - 150 @ 9:31

9 - 151 @ 9:51

10 - 150 @ 10:05

11 - 152 @ 9:35

12 - 158 @ 9:35 (going up the hill I went down at 7)

13 - 154 @ 9:41

14 - 156 @ 9:28

15 - 159 @ 9:23

16 - 162 @ 9:32

17 - 158 @ 11:02

18 - 147 @ 11:49
Dang be careful out there. I have had that wobbly leg feeling as well. I have not taken a header yet but I felt close a couple times. Glad you made it home ok. How long did it take for you to feel good again?

 
Dang be careful out there. I have had that wobbly leg feeling as well. I have not taken a header yet but I felt close a couple times. Glad you made it home ok. How long did it take for you to feel good again?
Glad you got a belt. 2 bottles is only 16oz. Definitely keep using your handheld in addition to the belt.I took some choc milk and hit the shower. After the shower I decided to hit the bed since I was home alone. After a 2hr nap, I was good as new (aside from sore legs).
 

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