Ran a 10k in June (7 Viewers)

[SFBayDuck]

I have some personal great news.

Last time I measured my waist was 1/2012 and it was 41". That was down quite a bit from the previous measurement. I took another measurement yesterday and the waist is down to 36"

My original goal weight was 150 and yesterday I hit 149.2

I was in the 180's at one time. I have changed my goal to have body fat at less then 10%. It is currently at 13.2%. I am not sure what my weight will be at less then 10% but I suspect between 140 and 145.

I am super happy with all of that.

I ran 5.3 miles today. I did this on the treadmill and I did .75 miles at 2.5 incline and 1.75 miles at 1.5 incline. Pace was 9:40.

* I am 5'7" for those who are wondering. I am hoping that is taller then 2YTBB

Freaking awesome man.I started out probably over 255...I know I saw 258 at one point (Im right at 6').

I had been hovering at 205 now for the past 6 months or so...usually just a bit over that at some point...but the last 3 weeks I have been under 205 and usually around 202.

And with every hot long run I hit under 200 after. Yeah, it was the cheating way to check the scale right after the run...but I had not seen that 1 as the first number for quite some time.

Goal is to get to 190 by December.

Nice work, both of you. Although I can sure relate more to sho nuff - at 5'11" I peaked at about 230 lbs 8 years ago when my daughter was born. Got down to about 192 in late 2009, back up to 210 while going through divorce/moving out/no running last fall, but am now back down under 2 bills again - held through vacation at 199. So I'm still a fat guy out on the trails, and definitely don't run McConaughey/Gru style unless I'm waaaay out in the woods, but I'm getting there. Planning on <195 for the trail marathon in October, and 185 for the 50 miler in the spring - that would be a weight I haven't seen since high school!On another note, bought some new kicks yesterday - pretty excited to break them in a bit this week.

Hopping on a conference call in a few, then out the door for 6 miles or so, probably throw in a few hill repeats if I'm feeling good.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Philly Marathon (half) looking bad for me.Diagnosed with a stress fracture in my back 3 weeks ago.Have barely been able to walk - let alone run.

Terrible news. How do you think you got the stress fracture? Running?

 

[John Bender]

Philly Marathon (half) looking bad for me.Diagnosed with a stress fracture in my back 3 weeks ago.Have barely been able to walk - let alone run.

Terrible news. How do you think you got the stress fracture? Running?

Lifting weights actually.I had heavy weight lifting included in my regimine and it happened right after back day (T-bar).Ended up just thinking I threw it out. Didn't get better after a week and went back for a Scan and XRays and doctor determined it was a stress fracture which he told means 6 weeks of rest.

 

[Ned]

JB - sucks about your back, man. comfortably numb and I are already registered for Philly. I know steel curtain is training for it, so I'm assuming he's 100% in too. We'll all have to catch up pre-race.

SFB - Let me know how the 7s work out. The 6's are my absolute favorite running shoe. I'd wear them on the road 100% if I could. Man I miss the trails...

 

[tri-man 47]

I love hearing the weight loss/fitness improvements! But sorry to hear about the back, John B.

After two big weeks, I took three days off from running to rest up a bit. Went out today and got in 2 x 2 mile @ 6:59/mile.

 

[John Bender]

Was going to follow Higdon half marathon training starting this Sunday.

Does anyone have an abbreviated maybe 2 month half marathon training plan they could point me in the direction of instead in case I heal up by let's say the middle of September?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Was going to follow Higdon half marathon training starting this Sunday.Does anyone have an abbreviated maybe 2 month half marathon training plan they could point me in the direction of instead in case I heal up by let's say the middle of September?

I don't know anything about back injuries, but if you're forced to take a month off with no running whatsoever, it's probably not wise to jump right back into a hurry-up-and-get-caught-up HM regimen. You're going to lose at least a little fitness, and trying to do too much too soon isn't worth it. I'd just focus on recovery and getting back into a regular running schedule once your back is healed. Then get ready for spring races.

 

[gruecd]

Decent 10-miler last night, but it's hard trying to recover from Ragnar while still doing some quality training. Hoping to do 8 today, 16 tomorrow, and 10 on Saturday, but I'm not sure my body will have it. I should probably just take the day off, but I'll probably just end up just sucking it up like always.

Next week will be a "mini-taper" kind of week, but mileage should still be in the 60s. I'll try to do a MLR (14ish) on Tuesday, and then I'll basically cruise into the long weekend so that I can pace my friend to her 3:30 marathon on Sunday. And then I'll try to turn around and do 10-12 miles on tired legs on Labor Day.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Next week will be a "mini-taper" kind of week, but mileage should still be in the 60s.

 

[beer 302]

Was going to follow Higdon half marathon training starting this Sunday.Does anyone have an abbreviated maybe 2 month half marathon training plan they could point me in the direction of instead in case I heal up by let's say the middle of September?

I don't know anything about back injuries, but if you're forced to take a month off with no running whatsoever, it's probably not wise to jump right back into a hurry-up-and-get-caught-up HM regimen. You're going to lose at least a little fitness, and trying to do too much too soon isn't worth it. I'd just focus on recovery and getting back into a regular running schedule once your back is healed. Then get ready for spring races.

I was gonna post something all smartass and Ivan had to ruin it with seriousness. He's right tho. I just finished up an abbreviated Higdon HM training (started in week 4 or 5 I think). Wouldn't consider it with a month off.

Next week will be a "mini-taper" kind of week, but mileage should still be in the 60s.

DAMNIT IVAN!!!!!!

 

[Ned]

Next week will be a "mini-taper" kind of week, but mileage should still be in the 60s.

with a 3:30 marathon thrown in for good measure. :jealous:

 

[John Bender]

Was going to follow Higdon half marathon training starting this Sunday.Does anyone have an abbreviated maybe 2 month half marathon training plan they could point me in the direction of instead in case I heal up by let's say the middle of September?

I don't know anything about back injuries, but if you're forced to take a month off with no running whatsoever, it's probably not wise to jump right back into a hurry-up-and-get-caught-up HM regimen. You're going to lose at least a little fitness, and trying to do too much too soon isn't worth it. I'd just focus on recovery and getting back into a regular running schedule once your back is healed. Then get ready for spring races.

True enough. Fair point. Will just work towards the next event once I'm back up to 3 miles in 30 mins

 

[sho nuff]

Next week will be a "mini-taper" kind of week, but mileage should still be in the 60s.

with a 3:30 marathon thrown in for good measure. :jealous:

Just makes me want to throw up...these 40+ mile weeks are hard enough for me. Could not imagine all of that and just throwing in a 3:30 to help pace someone.[drago] hes not human, hes like a piece of iron [/drago]

 

[gruecd]

Just makes me want to throw up...these 40+ mile weeks are hard enough for me. Could not imagine all of that and just throwing in a 3:30 to help pace someone.[drago] hes not human, hes like a piece of iron [/drago]

Just wait until you see what I'm gonna try to pull off next month...9/18: 26-mile trail run (4:00-4:30 in duration)9/23: 3:40 pacer at Fox Cities Marathon9/26: 25- or 26-mile trail run (4:00-4:30).Definitely gonna take those trail runs nice and easy...the first one so that I'm relatively fresh for my pacing gig, and the second because I suspect I won't be capable of anything faster!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Definitely gonna take those trail runs nice and easy.

26-mile trail run (4:00-4:30 in duration)25- or 26-mile trail run (4:00-4:30)

 

[gruecd]

I should probably just take the day off, but I'll probably just end up just sucking it up like always.

Well, got all geared up and headed out the door, but tight right ITB = no run, foam roll, and save legs to hopefully run in the morning. Oh, well. Better safe than sorry.

 

[sho nuff]

I should probably just take the day off, but I'll probably just end up just sucking it up like always.

Well, got all geared up and headed out the door, but tight right ITB = no run, foam roll, and save legs to hopefully run in the morning. Oh, well. Better safe than sorry.

Thunderlips got me in Rocky mode lately...

 

[sho nuff]

Speaking of Thunderlips...

The ultimate male? Ok, not really.

Capes are where its at.

Middle one was smokin...pics don't do her justice.

Also looked better in person.

She looked too sober...

Ah thank you very much.

Thank you X2.

 

[beer 302]

Speaking of Thunderlips...

The ultimate male? Ok, not really.

Capes are where its at.

Middle one was smokin...pics don't do her justice.

Also looked better in person.

She looked too sober...

Ah thank you very much.

Thank you X2.

Thunderlips is a good look for you man, you should random run in that outfit more often.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Middle one was smokin...pics don't do her justice.

Also looked better in person.

She looked too sober...

Ah thank you very much.

Thank you X2.

Nicely done.

 

[prosopis]

Trying my first reply from my phone, so I am sure I will screw this up. I am 5'6" (and a half), so I am still the champ :flex:

YESSSSSSSS

 

[Sand]

Thank you X2.

 

[prosopis]

Just makes me want to throw up...these 40+ mile weeks are hard enough for me. Could not imagine all of that and just throwing in a 3:30 to help pace someone.[drago] hes not human, hes like a piece of iron [/drago]

Just wait until you see what I'm gonna try to pull off next month...9/18: 26-mile trail run (4:00-4:30 in duration)9/23: 3:40 pacer at Fox Cities Marathon9/26: 25- or 26-mile trail run (4:00-4:30).Definitely gonna take those trail runs nice and easy...the first one so that I'm relatively fresh for my pacing gig, and the second because I suspect I won't be capable of anything faster!

 

[SteelCurtain]

All the guys who are losing weight -- great job! It must be a great feeling. I'm just trying to stay steady!

John Bender and Ned - I'm definitely in for Philly Marathon. Already registered and looking forward to it.

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Banged out a nice 9 miles this morning. Cruising along at 8:28 pace. Although, on a cool morning like this, it feels like it should be almost effortless.....and it wasn't.

Oh well. Onward and upward.

Step back week this week, so my long run is only 12 miles.

 

[Ned]

All the guys who are losing weight -- great job! It must be a great feeling. I'm just trying to stay steady!

John Bender and Ned - I'm definitely in for Philly Marathon. Already registered and looking forward to it.

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Banged out a nice 9 miles this morning. Cruising along at 8:28 pace. Although, on a cool morning like this, it feels like it should be almost effortless.....and it wasn't.

Oh well. Onward and upward.

Step back week this week, so my long run is only 12 miles.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

12 mile MLR done this morning. I was still quite tired from yesterday's LT run (and the accumulated miles), so I didn't bother wearing my Garmin and just took this one very easy.

 

[MAC_32]

Was going to follow Higdon half marathon training starting this Sunday.Does anyone have an abbreviated maybe 2 month half marathon training plan they could point me in the direction of instead in case I heal up by let's say the middle of September?

I don't know anything about back injuries, but if you're forced to take a month off with no running whatsoever, it's probably not wise to jump right back into a hurry-up-and-get-caught-up HM regimen. You're going to lose at least a little fitness, and trying to do too much too soon isn't worth it. I'd just focus on recovery and getting back into a regular running schedule once your back is healed. Then get ready for spring races.

True enough. Fair point. Will just work towards the next event once I'm back up to 3 miles in 30 mins

I didn't have a stress fracture but I had all sorts of back problems when I was younger due to a pretty nasty car accident. Went through what seemed like dozens of different methods to get the problem fixed and got nowhere. Still surprised to say it, but pilates and yoga's what finally got me right. Did it twice/week axeing one run and one lift per week for about 4 months. Been fine ever since. Your body learns how to stay in better balance so it's easier to not fall victim to over compensation and wear + tear injuries that get so many. I don't do it anymore, but I still do about 5-10 mins of a hybrid of it (more of a combo of abs + stretching though) most days after I'm done running.

 

[tri-man 47]

Thank you X2.

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A woman I work with here at the university has been preparing for this Sunday's Chicago Triathlon. Last night, someone broke into their locked garage in the city and stole her rather nice road bike.

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Good five miles of 'hill' work for me this a.m. A city overpass - probably 75 feet of rise, but back and forth, back and forth. Avg pace of 7:30/mile as I pushed it hard on the inclines.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Because its Friday

 

[sho nuff]

Because its Friday

Please...don't let the day of the week ever stop you from posting such things.On my end today...was planning on the 16 w/10 at MP.

Was 71 when I left the house to take my daughter to her preschool.

By the time I dropped her off and got to the greenway it was 78.

Got out of the car...decided Id give it a go but was already thinking I may cut it to a recovery run and do the 16 first thing Sunday morning.

That decision was made for me when I turned the garmin on only to see it say low battery (turns out the kids must have unplugged the usb plug to plug in one of their devices to the laptop).

Was not feeling it in the first mile anyway...then the garmin shut off so I slowed it down, took it easy and ran what I knew was a 3 mile course...then back.

So made it into a 6 mile recovery run today.

Would have been in the mid-high 80s by the time I finished it so...to me...I made the right decision.

That and trying to control my pace on the hills, my HR, and keeping the pace to MP without any data would not have been fun for me.

 

[koby925]

Next week will be a "mini-taper" kind of week, but mileage should still be in the 60s.

I'm still looking for my first 60+ week. So after taking Weds totally off, I gave it a shot yesterday. I walked around at a brisk pace for about 10 mins to loosen my left calf/achilles and that seemed to help. Eased into the run to make sure I could go and did an easy 7. I couldn't get out until 1pm today and it was already 86 and humid. After easing into the run, I started rolling. Ended up doing 7 miles in 47:48 (6:50 pace) and the last 5 were probably sub 6:40. Very encouraging, especially in that weather and with all the leg issues earlier this week. It looks like I just have to stay away from the track for awhile or do slow and long workouts. Well, the elusive 60 mile barrier won't happen again (I doubt I even get 50) but considering where things were on Tuesday, I'm glad just to be getting out there. We'll see how the legs respond to a longer run this weekend. Happy Friday all

 

[pigskinliquors]

I should probably just take the day off, but I'll probably just end up just sucking it up like always.

Well, got all geared up and headed out the door, but tight right ITB = no run, foam roll, and save legs to hopefully run in the morning. Oh, well. Better safe than sorry.

Good news! Be careful though. ____________________________

My update:

Did P90x Arms and shoulders and hit all previous max reps/weight for all but three lifts and set two new PR's = It's slowly coming back! I also just went out for a 3.8 mile run after lunch. It was a cool 97 degrees (at least that's what I tried to keep telling myself). I hoped to run 4.0 so I was darn close. Felt like my heart was going to explode coming in. I've been sitting at my desk working with a towel under me and another one over me, as I'm just now ceasing to sweat. Good fun. Tomorrow will be a long ride and abs.

 

[beer 302]

Next week will be a "mini-taper" kind of week, but mileage should still be in the 60s.

I'm still looking for my first 60+ week. So after taking Weds totally off, I gave it a shot yesterday. I walked around at a brisk pace for about 10 mins to loosen my left calf/achilles and that seemed to help. Eased into the run to make sure I could go and did an easy 7. I couldn't get out until 1pm today and it was already 86 and humid. After easing into the run, I started rolling. Ended up doing 7 miles in 47:48 (6:50 pace) and the last 5 were probably sub 6:40. Very encouraging, especially in that weather and with all the leg issues earlier this week. It looks like I just have to stay away from the track for awhile or do slow and long workouts. Well, the elusive 60 mile barrier won't happen again (I doubt I even get 50) but considering where things were on Tuesday, I'm glad just to be getting out there. We'll see how the legs respond to a longer run this weekend. Happy Friday all

On behalf of those of us who can't break a 7 minute mile in a car, you suck Glad to see you get back, hoping it was nothing more than a glitch in the matrix. Nice couple of runs I had a day off today and it's actually kinda nice not to have to get up at 3:30am for a change. 12 on tap for tomorrow, mapped out a pretty hilly course to try out so we'll see how it goes.Good luck to anyone racing this weekend, don't recall anything on tap but I'm sure Grue is running 30 as a warmup for something

 

[Follows Closely]

I got in a 16 mile run (Nike+) this AM. A 8'36" pace, which included walking for a minute or so as I adjusted my ipod. I am entered in the MCM this October, and hope to finish that under a 8'30" pace. I ran in high school, and a bit in college. Then for the next 15 years nothing. I started running again a little over a year ago and have very much enjoyed the tranquility. Back the the MCM, If I run a 8'30" pace in training, should I run that same pace in the race, or attempt to step it up 10 seconds or so?

I posted here a few months back about having a difficult time after long runs. I have concluded that I was not consuming enough calories before my runs. I have since then put on 10 lbs, at 170-175 now. I eat an additional 1000 or so calories the day before my long run, and I have had no problem with exhaustion or the diarrhea.

 

[Ned]

I got in a 16 mile run (Nike+) this AM. A 8'36" pace, which included walking for a minute or so as I adjusted my ipod. I am entered in the MCM this October, and hope to finish that under a 8'30" pace. I ran in high school, and a bit in college. Then for the next 15 years nothing. I started running again a little over a year ago and have very much enjoyed the tranquility. Back the the MCM, If I run a 8'30" pace in training, should I run that same pace in the race, or attempt to step it up 10 seconds or so?

I posted here a few months back about having a difficult time after long runs. I have concluded that I was not consuming enough calories before my runs. I have since then put on 10 lbs, at 170-175 now. I eat an additional 1000 or so calories the day before my long run, and I have had no problem with exhaustion or the diarrhea.

That's a loaded question...What's your weekly mileage been and for the past 3 months?

What's your longest long run since you've been training for MCM?

How hard was that 16 @ 8:30 on a scale of 1-10?

What are some of your recent PRs?

Is this your first 26.2?

 

[sho nuff]

I got in a 16 mile run (Nike+) this AM. A 8'36" pace, which included walking for a minute or so as I adjusted my ipod. I am entered in the MCM this October, and hope to finish that under a 8'30" pace. I ran in high school, and a bit in college. Then for the next 15 years nothing. I started running again a little over a year ago and have very much enjoyed the tranquility. Back the the MCM, If I run a 8'30" pace in training, should I run that same pace in the race, or attempt to step it up 10 seconds or so?

I posted here a few months back about having a difficult time after long runs. I have concluded that I was not consuming enough calories before my runs. I have since then put on 10 lbs, at 170-175 now. I eat an additional 1000 or so calories the day before my long run, and I have had no problem with exhaustion or the diarrhea.

That's a loaded question...What's your weekly mileage been and for the past 3 months?

What's your longest long run since you've been training for MCM?

How hard was that 16 @ 8:30 on a scale of 1-10?

What are some of your recent PRs?

Is this your first 26.2?

Can you remember hot chick's race numbers at that pace?

 

[Sand]

Paging PSL. In case you are interested, Proninja is trying to sell a wheelset with a wireless PT. This may be an opportunity to grab a nice set of equipment. Look here.

 

[beer 302]

Rise & grind

Suck factor of 119 (61/58) today, IT WAS GLORIOUS!!!!!

12.3 @ 10:19 pace, felt awesome. Was hoping to get down around 10 but the hills kilt me and even those went really well.never felt tired or ground down and finished the last three miles strong. Real happy with the effort today. Set a new distance PR for the month & week 136.5/40.8.

Scary to think Grue did just about that much last weekend

 

[Follows Closely]

What's your weekly mileage been and for the past 3 months?

20-30 miles a weeek.

What's your longest long run since you've been training for MCM?

16 multiple times.

How hard was that 16 @ 8:30 on a scale of 1-10?

Um... 7. I am not sore after a 16, I could keep going, but I am not sure about faster. When I push longer distance faster than an 8, my joints, especially my right hip ache the next few days.

What are some of your recent PRs?

Personal Record?

Is this your first 26.2?

Yes.

 

[prosopis]

I did 10 miles this morning.

pace 10:21, avg HR 156

I felt good. I did come across an old friend at mile 7. I have not seen him for a few years and I ended up stopping and talking for about 5-10 mins. Not sure how this affects a run but it happened.

 

[prosopis]

Rise & grind Suck factor of 119 (61/58) today, IT WAS GLORIOUS!!!!!12.3 @ 10:19 pace, felt awesome. Was hoping to get down around 10 but the hills kilt me and even those went really well.never felt tired or ground down and finished the last three miles strong. Real happy with the effort today. Set a new distance PR for the month & week 136.5/40.8.Scary to think Grue did just about that much last weekend

Congrats on the new PR. You and I seem to be very similar regarding pace.

 

[Ned]

What's your weekly mileage been and for the past 3 months?

20-30 miles a weeek.

What's your training plan peaking at (weekly mi)? 20-30 is fairly low for a marathon. At a minimum, I think you should be looking to peak at 40mi/week.

What's your longest long run since you've been training for MCM?

16 multiple times.

How hard was that 16 @ 8:30 on a scale of 1-10?

Um... 7. I am not sore after a 16, I could keep going, but I am not sure about faster. When I push longer distance faster than an 8, my joints, especially my right hip ache the next few days.

What are some of your recent PRs?

Personal Record?

Is this your first 26.2?

Yes.

Without knowing some of your race PRs, I'd suggest slowing your long runs way down. Doing them all at goal marathon pace is a recipe for disaster. The majority of your long runs should be 15% or more slower than MP. For an 8:30 marathon, you should be running your long runs around 9:45. Being this is your first, you should consider going even slower. How'd you come about the 8:30 goal?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Without knowing some of your race PRs, I'd suggest slowing your long runs way down. Doing them all at goal marathon pace is a recipe for disaster. The majority of your long runs should be 15% or more slower than MP. For an 8:30 marathon, you should be running your long runs around 9:45. Being this is your first, you should consider going even slower.

Just to add to what Ned has already said, there is a gigantic difference in distance between 16 miles and 26.2 miles. The difficulty of maintaing pace grows exponentially once you get much beyond that distance, especially so after mile 20, give or take. If this is your first marathon, it's much better to pick a time goal that seems over-conservative now. Or just focusing on finishing and save time goals for marathon #2.

 

[Ned]

Without knowing some of your race PRs, I'd suggest slowing your long runs way down. Doing them all at goal marathon pace is a recipe for disaster. The majority of your long runs should be 15% or more slower than MP. For an 8:30 marathon, you should be running your long runs around 9:45. Being this is your first, you should consider going even slower.

Just to add to what Ned has already said, there is a gigantic difference in distance between 16 miles and 26.2 miles. The difficulty of maintaing pace grows exponentially once you get much beyond that distance, especially so after mile 20, give or take. If this is your first marathon, it's much better to pick a time goal that seems over-conservative now. Or just focusing on finishing and save time goals for marathon #2.

I remember Ivan giving me this advice for my first marathon (yr and a half already?!) and I just couldn't grasp the thought. I eventually paid the price at mile 18. The last 8.2mi were the worst miles of my life. It's quite humbling to be walking at mile 20 knowing you still have 6.2 more to go.

 

[tri-man 47]

I got in a 16 mile run (Nike+) this AM. A 8'36" pace, which included walking for a minute or so as I adjusted my ipod. I am entered in the MCM this October, and hope to finish that under a 8'30" pace. I ran in high school, and a bit in college. Then for the next 15 years nothing. I started running again a little over a year ago and have very much enjoyed the tranquility. Back the the MCM, If I run a 8'30" pace in training, should I run that same pace in the race, or attempt to step it up 10 seconds or so?

I posted here a few months back about having a difficult time after long runs. I have concluded that I was not consuming enough calories before my runs. I have since then put on 10 lbs, at 170-175 now. I eat an additional 1000 or so calories the day before my long run.

FC - Ned and IK have weighed in, but let me add my two cents as well. I agree that you shouldn't try to match your training times to your race times. If a race goal is 8:30/mi pace, I'd back it off to at least 9:15/mi (or longer - Ned says 9:45/mi ..you get the idea). Those long runs need to be easy; conversational. You should get that distance to 20 miles (though I like getting in some 21-22 milers). The benefits of those runs are the development of your aerobic capacity, and that happens with a slow pace! Your marathon pace will probably be, at best, about a minute/mile better than your long, slow training runs. One thing you could do is a very firm 10 mile run or half-marathon ...drop that pace into the McMillan Calculator that you can find on-line and see what sort of marathon time kicks out!

 

[tri-man 47]

As for me, I slogged through 16 miles today. Unlike last week's great weather, this was back to the nasty stuff - about a 142 suckex (84/58) ...plus this was running after two days of hard morning workouts. Very similar pace to last week (8:28/mi today), but eleven ticks higher on the HR (156). Last week, I didn't want to stop. Today, I didn't want to start.

 

[walnutz]

I know thins has been asked before but when do you us start carrying water with you on your runs? I am currently at 7 miles and not carrying any water. These are generally morning runs on an empty stomach. Just curious if it is 10 miles or what?

 

[beer 302]

I know thins has been asked before but when do you us start carrying water with you on your runs? I am currently at 7 miles and not carrying any water. These are generally morning runs on an empty stomach. Just curious if it is 10 miles or what?

It's different for everyone and depends on the conditions. Morning runs, you're probably getting close to the spot where you need some hydration. I carry on 10+ now but there was a time when I would have brought it on 7 mile runs as well. Ask anybody here, about two months ago I kept complaining about getting my ### kicked on hot runs and it was because I wasn't hydrating well for one.

 

[sho nuff]

I know thins has been asked before but when do you us start carrying water with you on your runs? I am currently at 7 miles and not carrying any water. These are generally morning runs on an empty stomach. Just curious if it is 10 miles or what?

I carry on most every run.I just like having it even if its just a small bottle on a 5 miler.

 

[Follows Closely]

Thanks for the advice guys. I will try to run a 9something next long run.