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Ran a 10k in June (9 Viewers)
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Ned
Footballguy
Cool idea. I have the need for this when I'm hunting, but I just use the lid to my gear tub as the changing mat.
koby925
Footballguy
In a lot of races, the 40-44 and 45-49 are the most competitive groups age gradewise certainly and flat out in some races. I guess the appeal of the Masters bracket brings more people out. A guy at a local running place informed me that there are quite a few track meets in the spring/summer for all comers. And that masters on the track starts at 35'SteveC702 said:+1 as well. I got on a scale about 5 years ago on New Year's Eve after letting myself go at a Vegas buffet and was exactly 50 lbs over my college racing weight and thought "I gotta start exercising again". My only motivation for running then was so I wouldn't die young from heart problems like my mom did. Now I am a decent age-grouper and thinking about hanging around for another decade or so to see how I would stack up against other masters.Like Sand suggested, sign up for something slightly out of your comfort zone and start training. Once you run a few races and start improving it tends to become pretty addicting. Good luck.Post away. Everyone starts somewhere. Even better sign up for something slightly nutty and keep us informed on how training is progressing.You guys are beasts!Since my 5K at the beginning of February, I've run 2 times per week ranging in distance from 2.6 to 4.5 miles. For now, just trying to stay consistent with the 2 times per week and see where that takes me. But I won't clog up the thread too much with my feable miles/times
gruecd
Footballguy
Well, stupid snow/cold/wind forced me to re-arrange my training schedule again yesterday, so I just did yoga, and that was it. Rest of the week looking like this now:W - 5 GAT - 15 MLRF - 9/5T (probably TM since we're supposed to get another 3-7" of snow)S - 8 GAS - 17 LRAnd then (IIRC) four straight days of double-digit mileage to start next week. Curious to see how my legs will feel on Sunday after two straight longer/harder workouts on Thursday/Friday.
Sand
Footballguy
Looks ridiculous, IMO. Just about as bad as bringing a bucket into transition.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
I agree, I'd never buy one, but I'd use it if I got one for free. For Sprints and Olys, I go with next to nothing and try and knock out Ts in under a minute. However, for the 1/2 irons I've done I did put a very small folding chair thingy so I could really spray my feet off of sand in T1 and make the shoe change easier in T2. Stayed with in the rules, keeping all gear in front of my tire and in my space.
Last quality workout today prior to my race.10 min @ 243 watts (last 2 min at 256)3 min recover10 min @ 252 watts (last 2 min at 266)3 min recover10 min @ 261 watts (last 2 min at 276)3 min recover3 min @ 319 watts2 min recov2 min @ 348 wattsfinished with six 30 sec micro bursts at 360, 400, 420, 440, 460, 540 wattsThis would be biking...
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Oh now, see, I thought you were fresh off the Jenny McCarthy/Carmen Electra thread. But biking makes more sense. (I still don't understand that watts thing except to know you can lay down the power.)
beer 302
Footballguy
I have no dog in the hunt other than to add are the footprints really necessary?
Good thing you don't run
Hang 10
Footballguy
That's a cute race purse. Does it come with a matching pocketbook?
FUBAR
Footballguy
what's wrong with using a bucket? Man, I miss triathlons. Need to get back on the bike. and pool.
Sand
Footballguy
Oh, those had to hurt...
All threshold and VO2max work. The third 10 minute interval would be like the finish of a 5k race. 3 of the last 4 days with work in zone 3 (tempo) to zone 5 (VO2). Legs are trashed but I have a 2.5 days to recover. Hoping for some last minute fitness gain. I come from the Hunter Allen school that less taper is better for longer events.
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Speaking as a guy who ran out of T2 wearing 2 pair of sunglasses during my last triathlon, every little bit helps.
mr. furley
Footballguy
10k todayfoot/leg issues seem to have calmed down. no pain after finishing today.
Sand
Footballguy
Looking forward to see how this goes. Interesting strategy of doing hard bike intervals before a hilly marathon.
-----On my end, another 7 miler at lunch. Harder than yesterday and a bit slower. Still a decent outing. Added in a 2500yd swim tonight. Began by killing it with a 1:06 100 and 2:27 200. Fell off on the second thousand by only holding 1:20 or so during some 200 repeats. After that it was just enough to keep my legs from cramping. But, 'tis complete - overall a pretty good day.
FUBAR
Footballguy
'BassNBrew said:
I've ran every day this week. 10k Sunday, 15.7 Monday, 2x2 Tuesday, 4 Wednesday, and 4 x 1/2M splits today. Was planning on resting the legs today but my workout partner wanted to do 1/2s... so we went to the nearby street that's blocked off and went for it. 3:14, 3:01, 3:12, 2:50, with 50 push-ups and 4 minutes rest between. Looking back at my previous interval training, I don't usually rest enough between intervals.
beer 302
Footballguy
Rest when you're deadBnB
Actually rest more before shorter events per Allen. Seems counter intuitive, but his theory is that freshness trumps fitness on short stuff and fitness is more important than freshness when going long. He was referring to your TSS score for those using traning peaks. He wasn't advocating any extremes. Let's say you have a scale of 0 to 100 with zero being totally rested with no activity for 3 weeks prior and 100 being your peak fitness. If 50 is balance point, he's getting his clients to a score of 40-50 for 5ks / time trials and 50-60 for marathons / long races.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Looking for a new tri-bike on Craigslist, curious to get your thoughts.
Specialized: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/3618145845.html
Cervelo: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/3583926419.html
Not a whole lot on the market right now but I have time. These are both within my price range.
Specialized: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/3618145845.html
Cervelo: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/3583926419.html
Not a whole lot on the market right now but I have time. These are both within my price range.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
'Sand said:
A very good day!
That Cervelo would be much faster that the Specialized. It's not the carbon verison, but aero trumps weight in the flat land.
He's a freaking machine.'Sand said:
beer 302
Footballguy
Says the cyborgHe's a freaking machine.'Sand said:
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Both are good used prices in my opinion, but the Cervelo would give you a lot more in terms of lighter weight and the components. Heck, you can even take the cleats off the shoes and slap them on your bike shoes if the size isn't right. Mild word of caution. I bought my tri bike used and as I recall a lot of the listings had things like" XXXX miles, no crashes" or "crash-free bike". I am not saying both bikes have been wrecked, but I would look them over very closely before buying. I think the Cervelo owner set himself up to sell that bike for less with his "family situation". I'd go at him with around $900 in cash and see if he bites.
FUBAR
Footballguy
That's what I'm thinking. I have a Trek 1200 aluminum which I bought used for $250 back in college (1996). Last Tri I went to (HIM Kansas, 2010) people looked at it like it was a novelty and almost extinct. It's time to upgrade.
Sand
Footballguy
Bah - I just split things up into more interesting chunks than run-run-run-ad infinitum.He's a freaking machine.'Sand said:
My overall volume is fairly modest.(That said I did get a 5 miler done at lunch - legs are feeling it).
The only thing I get done at lunch is getting fatter.Bah - I just split things up into more interesting chunks than run-run-run-ad infinitum.He's a freaking machine.'Sand said:
gruecd
Footballguy
15 cold, slippery miles this afternoon. Averaged 8:37/mile, which was actually a pretty good effort considering the conditions. Had to shuffle around this week's training schedule because of the winter weather, and I wanted to front-load next week's schedule because of a 5-mile race I'm doing next Saturday, so here's the result:Today - 15 milesF - 9 with 5 tempoS - 8 easyS - 17M - 4/6 recovery doubleT - 11 w/ 5 x 1200M at 5K paceW - 15 T - 10That's 95 miles in 8 days with a couple of quality sessions. Yikes. :(
Ned
Footballguy
Holy ####, hombre.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I have no understanding of how you do this.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I got 8 miles in today at 9:31 pace. Weather here is fantastic. We had a freak storm here yesterday. I saw it snow in Tucson 
Snow did not last long here on the desert floor but the mountains are covered and it is beautiful. I love running in 50 degrees taking in the sights of snow covered mountains.
Snow did not last long here on the desert floor but the mountains are covered and it is beautiful. I love running in 50 degrees taking in the sights of snow covered mountains. 
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Holy #### that's a lot of miles.'gruecd said:
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This week was the first of what is going to be a 12-week buildup to my half in May. Not the biggest deal in the world and I'm not following any program in particular -- just doing something Pfitz-inspired and playing it by ear as I go along. My general goal is for each week to feature a long run, an additional 10 miler, some sort of speed session, and a couple easy runs. So here was week 1:Sunday: 12 @ 9:30. This was a little faster than I would normally do a "long run" because I ran an early segment with a colleague who's much faster than me, but then again 12 miles isn't really that long so it's all good.Monday: 5 recoveryTuesday: 10 @ 9:40Wednesday: 5 recoveryFriday: 8 with 4 LT (about 7:40)
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Was going to get back into running but after reading this I need a few more weeks off.See ya in March'gruecd said:
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
What's your goal and PR for the half, Ivan?
Ned
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
My PR is 1:43:02. My only goal for now is to better that -- I'll try to get more specific later on depending on how training goes. I haven't done any speedwork since my marathon back in October, so I'm just getting back into it. Also, both local tracks are under a foot or more of snow, so I'm stuck with a treadmill for now.
beer 302
Footballguy
Agree with Ned on the "just 12 miles" comment. Still amazes me sometimes I can knock out 10 miles and get on with my day, good stuff
Lately I've been hit by the bad weather bug and have had to put in more time on the treadmill this year than I did ALL of last year, no joke. I was just telling my wife how blessed I was last year, probably had to bag a run maybe 5 times because of weather the entire year. So far this year I've had to resort to the dreadmill at least that many times. I hate that ####### thing. I ran 7 on it last Saturday and wanted to play in traffic. I like being able to vary the speed/elevation to really dial in a workout but man is it monotonous. Don't know how you guys do 15-20 miles on that thing.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
All the treadmills at my gym have built-in televisions now, and some of them are also situation in front of a bay of five more tvs so you can follow multiple programs. That helps a lot, so at least you're not staring at a wall the whole time.Oh and also, this is a college wellness center, so there are always 18-22 year old coeds slinking around in revealing clothing. That provides a welcome change of scenery as well.Agree with Ned on the "just 12 miles" comment. Still amazes me sometimes I can knock out 10 miles and get on with my day, good stuff
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I hesitate giving my opinion on this since I have never specifically trained for a half marathon. However, if I were you, I think I would reduce the amount of long slow runs and focus more on speed work and half marathon pace runs. Maybe just one long, slow run per week as opposed to two and get an extra speed/pace run in.
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beer 302
Footballguy
LOL, I go to the run down Y a 1/2 mile away from my house. They have 4 treadmills with TV's but because they have TV's, they get abused so all the belts slip i.e. it's like running on ice. In the back they have a row of hand-me-down treadmills from the modern Y on the other side of town in front of 4 nice flat screens. They put the treadmills close so you literally have to look up to see them which makes it uncomfortable after and a minute or so. On top of that there is no sound, they have all the wireless boxes to broadcast the sound via FM but no one knows what the channels are so we all try to follow along with the closed captioning that is on on the TV's
Heading to the real Y tomorrow which is full of the beautiful people of which you speak and has the treadmills set up so you don't mind running on them so much, TV's all over that you can actually listen to.
gruecd
Footballguy
Which would be fine if I was 5'2"....
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
When, Sunday? Good luck!Dreading the 30k race I signed up for...ughIt's supposed to rain through the duration of the race and boy, do I feel like #### right now. On antibiotics for a sinus infection and got some tendonitis flaring up from my hips down to my knees. #### I know...I know...
Hang 10
Footballguy
Tomorrow. :( At this point, I'm going probably treat it like a glorified training run for my real goal, which is a half marathon next month. Goal will probably just be a 8 minute pace...something comfortable.When, Sunday? Good luck!Dreading the 30k race I signed up for...ughIt's supposed to rain through the duration of the race and boy, do I feel like #### right now. On antibiotics for a sinus infection and got some tendonitis flaring up from my hips down to my knees. #### I know...I know...
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Man I feel bad for you.
Sand
Footballguy
Dreading the 30k race I signed up for...ughIt's supposed to rain through the duration of the race and boy, do I feel like #### right now. On antibiotics for a sinus infection and got some tendonitis flaring up from my hips down to my knees. #### I know...I know...
I didn't get selected to go to the top so I'll be doing 26.2. Looks like 37 degrees and rain to start. Mud on the trails early and creek crossings high. Will transition to ice and then snow as we climb 2500 ft. I'll turnaround there, the 40 milers will have another 1500 ft to climb in snow conditions.I have no idea what to wear or which shoes to breakout. Was shooting for sub five hours, but that will be dependent on the trail conditions. Will have to throttle back the descent if it's icy.
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