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Ran a 10k in June (6 Viewers)

Jux and Workhorse - Let's try to hook up for a beer (and photo op) in Boston! I get into town around noon on Friday, and I leave on Tuesday morning. PM with with your details (arrival/departure, where you're staying, etc.) and let me know if there's a good time for us to connect.
Make sure you guys post your race numbers so we can follow all of you! (SteveC, you too?) Gruecd, you're #3211? It really helped me knowing the gang could follow the 5K splits, in particular, it kept me under control for the first two or three marks.

eta: so excited for this!
Yep, #3211 for me.

 
I'm 23038. 3rd wave, Corral 6, so I won't get started for a while. Looks like they put all of the charity runners in the same area which kind of sucks since I'm really a mid 2nd wave runner by ability. Oh well. It's Boston. Who am I to #####?

 
Jux and Workhorse - Let's try to hook up for a beer (and photo op) in Boston! I get into town around noon on Friday, and I leave on Tuesday morning. PM with with your details (arrival/departure, where you're staying, etc.) and let me know if there's a good time for us to connect.
Make sure you guys post your race numbers so we can follow all of you! (SteveC, you too?) Gruecd, you're #3211? It really helped me knowing the gang could follow the 5K splits, in particular, it kept me under control for the first two or three marks.

eta: so excited for this!
5730

 
Our Boston crew:

grue - 3211

Workhouse - 23038

Juxt - 5730

SteveC - 285

willed - 23935

 
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Great week of training everyone and it sounds like the people who picked up injury bugs are being smart about it too. Congrats on the 10KJux, nice bounceback race and should be a solid confidence booster. Also good luck to the guys running ultras this weekend, definitely will try to track you guys and send positive energy.

My bib # is 285. Less than 2 weeks away! I am getting in on Friday around noon as well and plan on picking up my packet that day. Leaving on Tuesday as well.

 
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Great week of training everyone and it sounds like the people who picked up injury bugs are being smart about it too. Congrats on the 10K Jux, nice bounceback race and should be a solid confidence booster. Also good luck to the guys running ultras this weekend, definitely will try to track you guys and send positive energy.

My bib # is 285. Less than 2 weeks away!
Showoff.... :rolleyes:

;)

 
Great week of training everyone and it sounds like the people who picked up injury bugs are being smart about it too. Congrats on the 10K Jux, nice bounceback race and should be a solid confidence booster. Also good luck to the guys running ultras this weekend, definitely will try to track you guys and send positive energy.

My bib # is 285. Less than 2 weeks away!
Showoff.... :rolleyes:

;)
Heh... the thing is, bib #s don't mean squat after it gets you into your starting corral. It's still 16 miles to the Newton Hills and 5+ miles home after Heartbreak Hill for everyone.

 
Great week of training everyone and it sounds like the people who picked up injury bugs are being smart about it too. Congrats on the 10K Jux, nice bounceback race and should be a solid confidence booster. Also good luck to the guys running ultras this weekend, definitely will try to track you guys and send positive energy.

My bib # is 285. Less than 2 weeks away!
Showoff.... :rolleyes:

;)
Heh... the thing is, bib #s don't mean squat after it gets you into your starting corral. It's still 16 miles to the Newton Hills and 5+ miles home after Heartbreak Hill for everyone.
True dat....

 
sho nuff - How's the sore nut? ;)
hah...the nut(s) are great.

Actually, recovery going well altogether. Got out a few times this weekend...and back to the normal routine dropping off kids today. Just no lifting and can't do much else.

But the pain is pretty minimal at this point.

Sent you a message on FB after seeing your check-in at Skyline Comedy. My brother performs there some...and works the bar when he is not being funny. Not sure if he was on stage when you were there or not.

 
See that, Jux? You just did avg of 19:36 per 5k after running one in 19:34. You are ready to roll, my friend. I'm also eagerly anticipating following you all at Boston.

40 mile week for me last week, including my first double digit run (10 miles) since last fall. Finished March at 159.5. Very happy with this progression. Lousy training week 2 weeks ago may have been a good thing for my health in retrospect. The Feb to March mileage jump was 112 to 159. Jumping straight to 175-180 may have been too much. Now I gotta keep the momentum. Plenty of inspiration from this crew to keep it going.

 
See that, Jux? You just did avg of 19:36 per 5k after running one in 19:34. You are ready to roll, my friend. I'm also eagerly anticipating following you all at Boston.
I keep thinking about the two races. I'm not sure how much to contribute to what factors. I certainly was putting out much more effort on the 5K (HR was probably higher, breathing heavier, felt like I was tiring quicker). Not that the 10K was easy by any stretch but I kept looking at my Garmin and was surprised by how fast I was running. Being more rested with the taper starting is partially a factor but I don't know how much. I think it certainly helped that it was about 40 degrees instead of 30 and I could nix the winter gear.

 
Weather, of course, will be the big variable, and right now the extended forecast is calling for highs in the 60s. Obviously plenty of time for that to change, and I'm really hoping that it does...
I found a site with an extended forecast. Now a high of 70. A south wind at 16 mph. I hate a strong wind unless it's at my back.

 
Weather, of course, will be the big variable, and right now the extended forecast is calling for highs in the 60s. Obviously plenty of time for that to change, and I'm really hoping that it does...
I found a site with an extended forecast. Now a high of 70. A south wind at 16 mph. I hate a strong wind unless it's at my back.
I hate doing the extended forecast obsession before every marathon. But I can't stop myself. I am guessing it will change drastically at least a half dozen times before the race so don't start sweating yet. 70 would be way too warm for my taste, but others don't mind it too much. The warmth of the sun might be an issue too, since Boston starts much later than most races.

I am feeling pretty good, finally, after taking way too long to get back to normal from the stomach bug two weeks ago. I ran a 10 miler this morning with three warmup miles and then seven at marathon pace (9:12). That's faster than I will run the race, but McMillan says I should be able to run a marathon at that pace so I use it for training. I am not sure that's wise, but a fellow runner suggested it and I like doing it.

 
Weather, of course, will be the big variable, and right now the extended forecast is calling for highs in the 60s. Obviously plenty of time for that to change, and I'm really hoping that it does...
I found a site with an extended forecast. Now a high of 70. A south wind at 16 mph. I hate a strong wind unless it's at my back.
Interesting. Just checked Accuweather.com, and they're saying overnight low of 36° on Sunday with a high of 52° on Monday. In other words, PERFECT....

That being said, it will change 100 times between now and race day...

 
I am feeling pretty good, finally, after taking way too long to get back to normal from the stomach bug two weeks ago. I ran a 10 miler this morning with three warmup miles and then seven at marathon pace (9:12). That's faster than I will run the race, but McMillan says I should be able to run a marathon at that pace so I use it for training. I am not sure that's wise, but a fellow runner suggested it and I like doing it.
Most around here will say that's OK to do every once in a while but the bulk of your long runs should be slower. If you run at marathon pace frequently and it's comfortable, I suspect your true marathon pace should be faster.

 
I am feeling pretty good, finally, after taking way too long to get back to normal from the stomach bug two weeks ago. I ran a 10 miler this morning with three warmup miles and then seven at marathon pace (9:12). That's faster than I will run the race, but McMillan says I should be able to run a marathon at that pace so I use it for training. I am not sure that's wise, but a fellow runner suggested it and I like doing it.
Most around here will say that's OK to do every once in a while but the bulk of your long runs should be slower. If you run at marathon pace frequently and it's comfortable, I suspect your true marathon pace should be faster.
No more than once a week, like a Higdon plan only mid-week rather than on the weekend. I mix in some longer marathon pace runs instead of a more traditional tempo run as I get closer to races.

 
Been chasing this hip issue for several weeks now. Basically the diagonosis is that I'm not using my glutes and using other muscles that have cause my hip to seize up. I've been doing some exercises to get the glutes to fire.

Accordingly, I hadn't run much since last Thursday when I had a good 5k but suffered with hip pain. Yesterday after treatment I went out for a 6 miler. Legs were super sluggish and my abdominal area barking (probably because I hadn't taken a dump). Interestingly enough, while my body and legs were saying I was struggling, the stats were telling a different story.

mile 3 - 134 hr, 9:21 pace

mile 4 - 133 hr, 9:05 pace

mile 5 - 135 hr, 9:11 pace

mile 6 - 156 hr, 7:23 pace

This was 45-60 secs faster than where I should have been at this hr. I actually felt my glutes during this run and seemed to be getting a push I've never felt before. The 7:23 pace was as hard effort, but not 5k type of effort.

 
Basically the diagonosis is that I'm not using my glutes and using other muscles that have cause my hip to seize up. I've been doing some exercises to get the glutes to fire.
Very common issue among runners. Good luck.
I had minor hip issues a couple of years ago and that was the diagnosis from the physical therapist (the doctor thought I had a torm labrum and needed surgery). I still do some exercises specifically for the hips and glutes in my core routine. No pain in a year or so. I didn't realize it was common.

 
Been chasing this hip issue for several weeks now. Basically the diagonosis is that I'm not using my glutes and using other muscles that have cause my hip to seize up. I've been doing some exercises to get the glutes to fire.
So basically, put your ### into it.

 
So I finally took everyone's advice and got a Garmin - the FR10 to be exact, based on the reviews people in here sent. Thanks to all. Used it for the first time tonight and already seeing the payoff. I was able to do interval work on the trails and path by where I live with a track unavailable. Loved the instant pace readouts to keep me on target pace. Amazing what good pacing does! I was actually able to do the entire speed workout I set out to do because I didn't start out way too fast :cool:

6x 1/2mile with .25 run rest (2:00-2:15 or 8-9 min pace) in between intervals

2:50, 2:58, 2:52, 2:56, 2:53, 2:43

Felt pretty good. This was a nice confidence booster. I can feel my conditioning getting better and better.

 
worrierking said:
gruecd said:
BassNBrew said:
Basically the diagonosis is that I'm not using my glutes and using other muscles that have cause my hip to seize up. I've been doing some exercises to get the glutes to fire.
Very common issue among runners. Good luck.
I had minor hip issues a couple of years ago and that was the diagnosis from the physical therapist (the doctor thought I had a torm labrum and needed surgery). I still do some exercises specifically for the hips and glutes in my core routine. No pain in a year or so. I didn't realize it was common.
Such as?

 
Furley - Nice job at Lytie. That's a tough course, and I heard the 15K was actually a bit long. WRT the Garmin, you normally have to send it back, but if it's only 4 months old, maybe you can return it to the store for a new one and let them deal with Garmin. Where did you buy it?
:hifive: it was tough for me. some big hills and a couple gradual climbs.

Garmin snapped back to life yesterday. no ####ing idea. it was dead for 2 days and just came back on.

 
worrierking said:
gruecd said:
BassNBrew said:
Basically the diagonosis is that I'm not using my glutes and using other muscles that have cause my hip to seize up. I've been doing some exercises to get the glutes to fire.
Very common issue among runners. Good luck.
I had minor hip issues a couple of years ago and that was the diagnosis from the physical therapist (the doctor thought I had a torm labrum and needed surgery). I still do some exercises specifically for the hips and glutes in my core routine. No pain in a year or so. I didn't realize it was common.
Such as?
If I had to choose one for the glutes it would be the quadrupeds.

quadrupeds:http://youtu.be/P-KGNEfbl1s

Step-up and knee raise on Bosu http://youtu.be/iDrO-Xh5PZI

Balance on knees on Swiss ball http://youtu.be/-Kpf6G2HGug

step-over squat on Bosu http://youtu.be/btvXPoq6l-o

 
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BassNBrew said:
Been chasing this hip issue for several weeks now. Basically the diagonosis is that I'm not using my glutes and using other muscles that have cause my hip to seize up. I've been doing some exercises to get the glutes to fire.Accordingly, I hadn't run much since last Thursday when I had a good 5k but suffered with hip pain. Yesterday after treatment I went out for a 6 miler. Legs were super sluggish and my abdominal area barking (probably because I hadn't taken a dump). Interestingly enough, while my body and legs were saying I was struggling, the stats were telling a different story.mile 3 - 134 hr, 9:21 pacemile 4 - 133 hr, 9:05 pacemile 5 - 135 hr, 9:11 pacemile 6 - 156 hr, 7:23 paceThis was 45-60 secs faster than where I should have been at this hr. I actually felt my glutes during this run and seemed to be getting a push I've never felt before. The 7:23 pace was as hard effort, but not 5k type of effort.
Nothing like not feeling great going into an ultra! Sounds like you've got a handle on it, hope it doesn't impact you this weekend. For me, out of nowhere after my 11 mile run on Sunday my left achilles is aching - not the one that's been bothering me. Attempted a run this morning, but after 1/2 mile it wasn't loosening so I went home. I've iced twice, been using Arnica (homeopathic remedy, probably :tinfoilhat: but who knows), and hoping it chills out in the next couple of days. I've got my parents and my buddy Jim driving down from Oregon for my 50M this weekend, so I pretty much need to tell them by Thursday if it's not happening. But as of now, I'm still convinced it's happening.

Furley - Nice job at Lytie. That's a tough course, and I heard the 15K was actually a bit long. WRT the Garmin, you normally have to send it back, but if it's only 4 months old, maybe you can return it to the store for a new one and let them deal with Garmin. Where did you buy it?
:hifive: it was tough for me. some big hills and a couple gradual climbs.

Garmin snapped back to life yesterday. no ####ing idea. it was dead for 2 days and just came back on.
Mine does that every couple of months, but usually comes back. Can't figure out what the issue is. And I have to push on it to get it to sync with my laptop. And this is a refurbished one, replacing the one that never turned back on.

 
BassNBrew said:
This was 45-60 secs faster than where I should have been at this hr. I actually felt my glutes during this run and seemed to be getting a push I've never felt before. The 7:23 pace was as hard effort, but not 5k type of effort.
Here's to hoping this all works itself out this week! I'm pumped for you this weekend. Good luck! You and your support crew will hopefully have a blast. Are there real time updates or anything on this race?

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On my end, first official tri ride of the season. Set a PR on the one section I tend to hit real hard on all these rides - only by one second, but I'll take it. For the important part of the ride (50 minutes worth) I averaged 237w with 270w normalized. And felt like I had lots left in the tank at the end. Pretty spiffy for an early season ride - that 270 is a pretty good number anytime. Only had one guy really riding with me after we tore the group up and it turns out he was a Cat 1 a couple years ago (yeah, no wonder I could never drop him).

 
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Duck - Are you sure 1/2 mile is enough time for it to loosen up? I've had a lot of Achilles issues over the years and I've had runs where the pain won't vanish until after 5 miles. And I never feel good within the first 1/2 mile. Not to say your issues are like mine (and I generally hate giving injury advice) but I'd hate for you to cancel your race on something you might be able to run through.

 
worrierking said:
gruecd said:
BassNBrew said:
Basically the diagonosis is that I'm not using my glutes and using other muscles that have cause my hip to seize up. I've been doing some exercises to get the glutes to fire.
Very common issue among runners. Good luck.
I had minor hip issues a couple of years ago and that was the diagnosis from the physical therapist (the doctor thought I had a torm labrum and needed surgery). I still do some exercises specifically for the hips and glutes in my core routine. No pain in a year or so. I didn't realize it was common.
Such as?
If I had to choose one for the glutes it would be the quadrupeds.

quadrupeds:http://youtu.be/P-KGNEfbl1s

Step-up and knee raise on Bosu http://youtu.be/iDrO-Xh5PZI

Balance on knees on Swiss ball http://youtu.be/-Kpf6G2HGug

step-over squat on Bosu http://youtu.be/btvXPoq6l-o
Thanks

 
I've got my parents and my buddy Jim driving down from Oregon for my 50M this weekend, so I pretty much need to tell them by Thursday if it's not happening. But as of now, I'm still convinced it's happening.
It's happening.
 
More from the files of where did that come from...

3 x 1 mile repeats last night

1 - 7:24 pace, 155 hr

2 - 7:15 pace, 157 hr

3 - 7:14 pace, 160 hr

Solid zone 3 work for me. Was pushing semi-hard, but not a true interval effort. For reference, I haven't sniff 7:30s on these and last nite this came relatively easy.

My son meanwhile knocked out 5:55, 6:02, 6:00 efforts on his three repeats.

 
More from the files of where did that come from...3 x 1 mile repeats last night1 - 7:24 pace, 155 hr2 - 7:15 pace, 157 hr3 - 7:14 pace, 160 hrSolid zone 3 work for me. Was pushing semi-hard, but not a true interval effort. For reference, I haven't sniff 7:30s on these and last nite this came relatively easy.
Lookin' good! How much work are you going to do before this weekend?

My son meanwhile knocked out 5:55, 6:02, 6:00 efforts on his three repeats.
Effing kids... :P

 
Hey Penis!!!!!!!!

Some of you may remember me complaining of some pain behind my knee/hamstring. Well that went away and now its on my inner-knee area. I haven't ran in over 2 weeks and it blows horse urethra. Anyone have any experience with this? Whats going on? I can walk fine and everything, but will sometimes feel a little twinge or something on the insde of my knee.

 
More from the files of where did that come from...3 x 1 mile repeats last night1 - 7:24 pace, 155 hr2 - 7:15 pace, 157 hr3 - 7:14 pace, 160 hrSolid zone 3 work for me. Was pushing semi-hard, but not a true interval effort. For reference, I haven't sniff 7:30s on these and last nite this came relatively easy.My son meanwhile knocked out 5:55, 6:02, 6:00 efforts on his three repeats.
I know you know what you're doing, but I'm surprised you would do a workout like that with a looming 100 mile race!

 
Hey Penis!!!!!!!!

Some of you may remember me complaining of some pain behind my knee/hamstring. Well that went away and now its on my inner-knee area. I haven't ran in over 2 weeks and it blows horse urethra. Anyone have any experience with this? Whats going on? I can walk fine and everything, but will sometimes feel a little twinge or something on the insde of my knee.
It's always tough and a little trial and error to figure out what injuries you can run on and what you need to rest. What I do know is if you always wait to be 100%, you'll never get very far as a runner.

 
Duck - Are you sure 1/2 mile is enough time for it to loosen up? I've had a lot of Achilles issues over the years and I've had runs where the pain won't vanish until after 5 miles. And I never feel good within the first 1/2 mile. Not to say your issues are like mine (and I generally hate giving injury advice) but I'd hate for you to cancel your race on something you might be able to run through.
I agree, in general it takes me a good 20-30 minutes to feel warmed up. But this was hurting just walking, and it was more a decision of not trying to do more damage with the race 5 days away.

I've got my parents and my buddy Jim driving down from Oregon for my 50M this weekend, so I pretty much need to tell them by Thursday if it's not happening. But as of now, I'm still convinced it's happening.
It's happening.
I know. I just need it to calm down enough that it won't change my gait, because running with a hitch for 10+ hours would absolutely lead to something else getting hurt.

 
Hey Penis!!!!!!!!

Some of you may remember me complaining of some pain behind my knee/hamstring. Well that went away and now its on my inner-knee area. I haven't ran in over 2 weeks and it blows horse urethra. Anyone have any experience with this? Whats going on? I can walk fine and everything, but will sometimes feel a little twinge or something on the insde of my knee.
It's always tough and a little trial and error to figure out what injuries you can run on and what you need to rest. What I do know is if you always wait to be 100%, you'll never get very far as a runner.
all i needed to hear! gonna get back out there today and see how it feels.

 
Hey Penis!!!!!!!!

Some of you may remember me complaining of some pain behind my knee/hamstring. Well that went away and now its on my inner-knee area. I haven't ran in over 2 weeks and it blows horse urethra. Anyone have any experience with this? Whats going on? I can walk fine and everything, but will sometimes feel a little twinge or something on the insde of my knee.
This sounds like it may be an IT Band penis injury. Those are not fun.

 
Hey Penis!!!!!!!!

Some of you may remember me complaining of some pain behind my knee/hamstring. Well that went away and now its on my inner-knee area. I haven't ran in over 2 weeks and it blows horse urethra. Anyone have any experience with this? Whats going on? I can walk fine and everything, but will sometimes feel a little twinge or something on the insde of my knee.
It's always tough and a little trial and error to figure out what injuries you can run on and what you need to rest. What I do know is if you always wait to be 100%, you'll never get very far as a runner.
all i needed to hear! gonna get back out there today and see how it feels.
Google Pes Anserinus Tendinitis, enjoy

penis

 
Ran 5 miles yesterday with minimal to no pain whatsoever.

Warmed up with a 1.5 at an 8 min pace then did about 2 miles up and down stairs for the next 20 minutes and then cooled down with another 1.5 miles.

Feeling good.

 
Furley - Nice job at Lytie. That's a tough course, and I heard the 15K was actually a bit long. WRT the Garmin, you normally have to send it back, but if it's only 4 months old, maybe you can return it to the store for a new one and let them deal with Garmin. Where did you buy it?
it was tough for me. some big hills and a couple gradual climbs.

Garmin snapped back to life yesterday. no ####ing idea. it was dead for 2 days and just came back on.
Easter weekend ...doh.

 
Hey Penis!!!!!!!! Some of you may remember me complaining of some pain behind my knee/hamstring. Well that went away and now its on my inner-knee area. I haven't ran in over 2 weeks and it blows horse urethra. Anyone have any experience with this? Whats going on? I can walk fine and everything, but will sometimes feel a little twinge or something on the insde of my knee.
How does your IT band feel? Usually stretching remedies most of these issues. I'm assuming you have decent shoes.
 
More from the files of where did that come from...3 x 1 mile repeats last night1 - 7:24 pace, 155 hr2 - 7:15 pace, 157 hr3 - 7:14 pace, 160 hrSolid zone 3 work for me. Was pushing semi-hard, but not a true interval effort. For reference, I haven't sniff 7:30s on these and last nite this came relatively easy.
Lookin' good! How much work are you going to do before this weekend?
M

y son meanwhile knocked out 5:55, 6:02, 6:00 efforts on his three repeats.
Effing kids... :P
Hitting the gym tonite for light legs, chest, tris, and stretching. Probably will walk 2-3 miles. Off tomorrow except for the gym...light legs, back, bis, and more stretching. Friday is a travel day. Will probably do an easy mile and walk a mile.Main thing is to keep occupied and not pack on a couple of extra pounds.
 
Ran 5 miles yesterday with minimal to no pain whatsoever.

Warmed up with a 1.5 at an 8 min pace then did about 2 miles up and down stairs for the next 20 minutes and then cooled down with another 1.5 miles.
Nice! Good to hear :thumbup:

Furley - Nice job at Lytie. That's a tough course, and I heard the 15K was actually a bit long. WRT the Garmin, you normally have to send it back, but if it's only 4 months old, maybe you can return it to the store for a new one and let them deal with Garmin. Where did you buy it?
it was tough for me. some big hills and a couple gradual climbs.

Garmin snapped back to life yesterday. no ####ing idea. it was dead for 2 days and just came back on.
Easter weekend ...doh.
Well played

 
More from the files of where did that come from...3 x 1 mile repeats last night1 - 7:24 pace, 155 hr2 - 7:15 pace, 157 hr3 - 7:14 pace, 160 hrSolid zone 3 work for me. Was pushing semi-hard, but not a true interval effort. For reference, I haven't sniff 7:30s on these and last nite this came relatively easy.My son meanwhile knocked out 5:55, 6:02, 6:00 efforts on his three repeats.
I know you know what you're doing, but I'm surprised you would do a workout like that with a looming 100 mile race!
Funny thing is that this is this first workout on my schedule that I actually did as called for in the last 12 weeks. I ran these at an 8:15 effort level. The pt and chiropractor found the extra minute per mile.This was a confidence builder. I'll be doing most of the miles between 11-13 minute pace before falling off the cliff. 11-13 seems less daunting when you have sub-8 potential.
 
I am getting really pissed at the weather right now. It's starting to warm up into temperatures that are basically ideal for running, but every key workout seems to keep falling on days with 20-25 mph winds. Today was going to be a 10/6 tempo run, but the wind forced me indoors. I really hate doing speed workouts on the treadmill, but this one went really well for some reason. Still would have liked to have been outdoors instead.

Last Sunday was going to be 15, but the high winds convinced me to shift it to this Saturday instead. Next week is a rest week, so moving it from the start of the week to the end of the week was no problem. But now Saturday's forecast has changed from sunny and mild to cold, windy, and rainy. This is seriously getting on my nerves because it's been happening over and over and over again for the past month or so. I just can't catch a break. :whining:

 
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