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Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

Have a 10k tomorrow evening. I have only been able to get one run in all week. Might have a small window to get 3-4 miles in before heading up to Wrigley for Pearl Jam. Bad idea to run the day before a race?
No. I prefer to run day before a race. Not for building base or anything - just a short slow one. Just keeps the legs loose and I often feel terrible and tight the day after a day off. So I wouldn't want to feel like that on race day. But some people prefer to not run.

 
I feel like I am hitting a wall the last few runs. Part of it may be I ran last night and again this morning, but I had to stop and walk a bit on each run. Which is something I normally never do other than coming back from a long layoff. I'm sure the suckex isn't helping either. Especially last night...I think when I ran 6 miles it was 93/72.

Gonna try to go out again tomorrow morning but if I feel like this again, I'm thinking I may need a few days off. Was thinking of a 5k next Saturday but that may be in jeopardy. Anyone want to talk me off the ledge or agree?

 
I'd like to add my input regarding the discussion about always going all out versus purposeful running. Last year I ran the same 5K course 4-5 times a week for 4 months always trying to improve my time and I got to the point where I could run it under 19 minutes. I took 4 months off, but for the last 8 months I have been running with a group, a very slow group, 3 times a week, plus 1-2 times on my own where I run further and harder. Last week I had the opportunity to run my old 5K course. I had to quit before reaching 2.5 miles and I was barely on place to go under 21 minutes. I knew I was slower but had no idea it was this bad. It is hard to fight through the burning lungs, pounding chest, and heavy legs when it is a foreign feeling.

Certainly purposeful runs are good for avoiding injuries and slow and steady gains but if you want to get fast quick there is nothing like just going all out every time.
What do you mean by purposeful runs? You can always have a purpose for a run and that purpose still be wrong. (Not trying to be jackass)

What sort of distance have you been running the slower runs when you've been with the group? I'm guessing they're short and slow, which won't get you very much. Conversely, if all of your fast runs are longer than you're accustomed too, you're opening yourself wide open to getting hurt. If you focused on running your short runs fast and your long runs slow, you'd be much better off. General rule of thumb is 80% of your workouts should be endurance based (i.e. long and slow), with the rest being various speed or tempo work.

You've obviously got a lot of raw talent if you got down to a 19:xx 5K in your first 4 months. I'd argue that your talent is what got you there moreso than the busting your gut every run. When runners first start out, they're always going to see their biggest gains since they're starting from 'zero'. I'm not surprised that you were able to get there so quickly.

Worrier's story is exactly like mine. I've been focusing on marathons for the past 3 years and have hardly focused any time on speed work. Yet I've set new 5K PRs every year and am considerably faster now than I was when I ran cross country in high school. All that while doing 90% of my running at an easy conversational pace.

 
I feel like I am hitting a wall the last few runs. Part of it may be I ran last night and again this morning, but I had to stop and walk a bit on each run. Which is something I normally never do other than coming back from a long layoff. I'm sure the suckex isn't helping either. Especially last night...I think when I ran 6 miles it was 93/72.

Gonna try to go out again tomorrow morning but if I feel like this again, I'm thinking I may need a few days off. Was thinking of a 5k next Saturday but that may be in jeopardy. Anyone want to talk me off the ledge or agree?
Maybe take some time off if you feel like you're just running in muck. A few days rest does a lot to refresh the body as well as gets you fired back up to get back out.

 
I feel like I am hitting a wall the last few runs. Part of it may be I ran last night and again this morning, but I had to stop and walk a bit on each run. Which is something I normally never do other than coming back from a long layoff. I'm sure the suckex isn't helping either. Especially last night...I think when I ran 6 miles it was 93/72.

Gonna try to go out again tomorrow morning but if I feel like this again, I'm thinking I may need a few days off. Was thinking of a 5k next Saturday but that may be in jeopardy. Anyone want to talk me off the ledge or agree?
Dude.... 165 is no joke. Don't put any weight into how you felt on that run. This sissy wouldn't have ran at all!

I set out to run 9 this morning at 4:30 and it was 81/78. I've never seen it that high this early in the morning. I started to get chills at mile 7 and decided to call it quits at mile 8 when I notice my HR was lower than it had been for the entire run. Chills are one of the first signs you're body isn't able to regulate temps any more. F that ####.

 
I feel like I am hitting a wall the last few runs. Part of it may be I ran last night and again this morning, but I had to stop and walk a bit on each run. Which is something I normally never do other than coming back from a long layoff. I'm sure the suckex isn't helping either. Especially last night...I think when I ran 6 miles it was 93/72.

Gonna try to go out again tomorrow morning but if I feel like this again, I'm thinking I may need a few days off. Was thinking of a 5k next Saturday but that may be in jeopardy. Anyone want to talk me off the ledge or agree?
You haven't raced in a while, right? I think you should definitely race to get a decent idea where you're at. And you're a runner that always seems to get a big boost from the competitiveness of a race so you might surprise yourself. Besides, what's the worst that can happen?

 
I feel like I am hitting a wall the last few runs. Part of it may be I ran last night and again this morning, but I had to stop and walk a bit on each run. Which is something I normally never do other than coming back from a long layoff. I'm sure the suckex isn't helping either. Especially last night...I think when I ran 6 miles it was 93/72.

Gonna try to go out again tomorrow morning but if I feel like this again, I'm thinking I may need a few days off. Was thinking of a 5k next Saturday but that may be in jeopardy. Anyone want to talk me off the ledge or agree?
Dude.... 165 is no joke. Don't put any weight into how you felt on that run.
Agreed ...and I agree with Juxt that a race could do ya some good.

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Arid Filch - I'll agree with the others that (a) recurring fast runs will let you race fast, but (b) there's good logic and demonstrated success in a blend of long, slow runs, pace work, and speed work to maximize performance. If you enjoy (a) for now, then stick with it! But know that (b) is an option as well. Of course, point ( c ) is to run races, then post links to the hot-looking wimmen that ran in your race. To paraphrase Sand: Most important aspect of racing, bar none.

 
I feel like I am hitting a wall the last few runs. Part of it may be I ran last night and again this morning, but I had to stop and walk a bit on each run. Which is something I normally never do other than coming back from a long layoff. I'm sure the suckex isn't helping either. Especially last night...I think when I ran 6 miles it was 93/72.

Gonna try to go out again tomorrow morning but if I feel like this again, I'm thinking I may need a few days off. Was thinking of a 5k next Saturday but that may be in jeopardy. Anyone want to talk me off the ledge or agree?
Dude.... 165 is no joke. Don't put any weight into how you felt on that run. This sissy wouldn't have ran at all!

I set out to run 9 this morning at 4:30 and it was 81/78. I've never seen it that high this early in the morning. I started to get chills at mile 7 and decided to call it quits at mile 8 when I notice my HR was lower than it had been for the entire run. Chills are one of the first signs you're body isn't able to regulate temps any more. F that ####.
Yeah this morning wasn't 165 but it was no picnic, either. I haven't looked yet but I if I had to guess I'd say it was 153-155. I set out with the goal of 8 this morning and about 5 in on a slight uphill I felt terrible. I'm not a hear rate monitor guy but when I stopped to walk a bit, my heart rate was racing. And my legs feel shot.

Jux, yeah I haven't raced in awhile. I'd like to still do it. I read that the course is flat and 6-7 guys a year run sub 18 so it would be a good one to get it. I may try to tough it out for the 2 weekend runs, then take 2-3 days off beginning of next week to recover. And maybe it will serve as a mini-taper for the race.

 
Without access to a lap pool or my bike, I've ran more this week than in a while.

11 miles today @ 8:24, suck index of 150. Not knowing the area i got a little turned around but overall a nice run around a reservoir in Indianapolis.

Monday was a 20k ride with 2.5k swim

Tuesday - intervals 1 minute / 2 minute, 4 miles kept the minute interval under 6:30

Wednesday - 5.5 miles easy (8:30)

Thursday - 2 miles with pushups and core

Friday - 11m / 8:24 pace

Rest tomorrow, probably 10k Sunday, then we camp and site-see a few days so won't be doing much aside from walking around Chicago and then Ann arbor.

 
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5k tonight at 7pm. Hoping to break 24 minutes, but need some weather cooperation I think. Cold front is supposed to roll in some tome today, just need it to happen soon. If it is still 90 and humid I dont think I have a shot.

 
Good luck to para, annyong, and everyone else racing this weekend. Hope the heat breaks a little for you guys.

 
Juxtatarot said:
Sean said:
Good luck to para, annyong, and everyone else racing this weekend. Hope the heat breaks a little for you guys.
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Thanks. I'm gonna need it. Will prolly have 25 beers tonight at Wrigley then I gotta start my race at 6pm. Gonna be interesting
I have no idea why some of you will drink heavily (or even at all) a day before a race. And you were concerned about the effect a short run today would have?

 
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Juxtatarot said:
Sean said:
Good luck to para, annyong, and everyone else racing this weekend. Hope the heat breaks a little for you guys.
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Thanks. I'm gonna need it. Will prolly have 25 beers tonight at Wrigley then I gotta start my race at 6pm. Gonna be interesting
I have no idea why some of you will drink heavily (or even at all) a day before a race. And you were concerned about the effect a short run today would have?
Yeah don't run 3 miles today but definitely drink a case of beer.

 
Juxtatarot said:
Sean said:
Good luck to para, annyong, and everyone else racing this weekend. Hope the heat breaks a little for you guys.
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Thanks. I'm gonna need it. Will prolly have 25 beers tonight at Wrigley then I gotta start my race at 6pm. Gonna be interesting
I have no idea why some of you will drink heavily (or even at all) a day before a race. And you were concerned about the effect a short run today would have?
Yeah don't run 3 miles today but definitely drink a case of beer.
Carbs and water?

 
Illinois FBGs -

Fall 50 relay on Saturday, October 26, in picturesque Door County, WI. I have a team, and I was planning on running with a bunch of local friends like last year, but for various reasons (injury, work, etc.), they've all backed out on me, so as of right now, I'm a team of one. I could always sell the entry, but I thought maybe a couple of you guys might be interested in driving up and running. Tri-man was on my team a few years ago, so he can vouch for how much fun it is. Music afterwards, big tent with free beer and pizza, etc. The 3-person team cost me $325, so like $108 per person. If we added a 4th or a 5th, it would be $130 per person as long as we did it before July 31.

Assuming we'd get a start time similar to last year (10 AM), we could just spend Friday night at my place in Appleton and then leave around 6:45 on Saturday morning for the start. I've got a couple of hotel rooms in Sturgeon Bay for Saturday night at a pretty decent rate ($127 each). If we'd roll with 3 guys, we'd only need one room; I'd just bring an air mattress. And then we wouldn't need a van, either.

Hopefully we can make this work. Let me know if you guys are interested or if you have any questions/concerns!

 
Grue, I have a trip to Virginia and a 10-mile race scheduled for the week before. I don't think I want to plan something for the week after, particularly with a marathon coming up in November.

 
5K tomorrow. Not feeling real great about it either. Was primed for a good time but my left leg has really feeling off. I've contemplated shutting it down but I will most likely give it a go.

 
4 mile race tomorrow night, not racing for time, more of a party run, but will be good to see where I am. Really pushed myself hard from the fourth to the 16th. Legs still aren't all the way back yet either. Maybe tomorrow.

 
I'm pretty sure the first thing Skynet made when it became fully aware was Killian Jornet. Watching folks run is kinda like watching paint dry to me but I could watch this guy all day, so cool.

 
Unofficially 24:22 for my race. Will update when results post online. 89 degrees at starting time. Disappointed to miss my goal, but still an improvement.

 
Questions for the trail and/or ultra crowd, specific towards training/completing a 50K with progression to 50 miler:

- Shoes: I've been running in ASICS Nimbus for what's likely been a decade or more. Is transitioning into trail specific shoes a no brainer for training/racing? Recommendations? Or do I just need to get into a local running store and speak with them?

- Hydration: Hydration pack, handheld bottle(s), or both? Recommendations?

- Others: Specific shirts, socks, or other gear that you love or feel is essential?
Shoes - Really depends on the type of trail. For groomed or gravel I stick with my running shoes. For big rocks and roots I go with trail shoes. The trail shoe will allow you to feel what's under you and hopefully give you enough time to do something before rolling an ankle. The problem with feeling things under your feet is that shaper rocks will hurt like heck. I did my 54 miler and 100 miler in heavier running shoes for comfort reasons. Most of my training is in trail shoes. I have 3 different types of trail shoes depending on the conditions.

Hydration - Packs can cause issues with running form and chaffing. I like the belts because of the pockets for food. The elites use the handhelds. I need my hands to break falls.

Other - A gel flask is nice to have for long training runs.

I can't recommend this belt enough http://www.rei.com/product/846112/salomon-xt-twin-hydration-belt,-bright-red/iron/white?preferredSku=8461120002&cm_mmc=cse_froogle-_-pla-_-product-_-8461120002&mr:referralID=699c10c5-ef2f-11e2-9dea-001b2166becc

The triangular bottles don't wiggle and for longer runs I upside the bottles. The pouch in front holds food, gel, car key, and salt tabs. Extra food, butt wipes, jacket, gloves, hat will fit in back pouch. There's a bunge which will hold more clothing.
Shoes - unless you're running super technical mountain trails, don't go overboard on trail shoes - I remember buying some super built up, gore-tex shoes when I first started that turned out to be a total waste of money. That being said, finding a "hybrid" with a little extra tread on the bottom, maybe some extra in the midsole to protect from those sharp rocks, is not a bad idea. I love my Brooks Cascadias, great hybrid shoe that is comfortable on pavement (at least for the 1-2 miles I ever run on it on the way to/from the trailhead) but does fine on singletrack as well. But I also do my long stuff in Hokas, which are a whole different story all together.

Hydration really depends on preference, but it's important to consider how often you will be able to refill. Handhelds work great for shorter runs or those where you can refill regularly, and I try and use those in races if the aid stations are close enough that I can get by. I'll go with a handheld and a single bottle waist pack if it's going to be 60-90+ minutes between refill opportunities. And if I don't know, or it's just going to be a long day, I have a Nathan 2L hydration pack. The packs with bottles on the front are gaining in popularity, and I may check those out - they're easier to fill than a bladder at an aid station, but still give you the ability to carry multiple bottles and fuel.

Otherwise I do wear calf compression sleeves for longer runs, with the added bonus here in Northern California of protection from poison oak. I bought a pair of gaiters to help keep trail junk out of my shoes, but haven't actually tried them yet - but will do so and plan to wear them for my 50M. And body glide is huge when you're out there for many hours, I carry it and re-apply on hot runs in particular.

Nutrition at longer distances is ever more important but can be tricky, but that's totally an experiment of one. Try different things and find what works for you. I try to train with minimal calories as much as possible to try and ramp up my fat-burning systems, and then rely on liquid calories supplemented with aid station food (mostly Coke and potatoes dipped in salt) during races.

Only other quirk I can think of is that I carry candied ginger - when my stomach goes sideways several hours into a run, I'll pop that in my cheek and it seems to help settle it down enough to enable me to keep taking on hydration/nutrition.
Awesome advice from everyone on this board, and particularly this thread. That's why I love this place.

My biggest uncertainty with shoe selection is that I'm about a 1.5mi run to the nearest trails, which consist of a 50/50 mix of paved and single track (for mountain bikers). Yet the 50K that I'm leaning towards will be a bit more technical, and definitely no paved trails (Superior Hiking Trail on the north shore in Minnesota). Is something like the Cascadias that you recommend a decent option for this type of training and/or ultra? Any downside with as much pavement as they'll be hitting during training?

As for hydration, for marathon training I have used a Fuel Belt 6-bottle waist belt. It's done fine, but I don't feel like I've seen many trail/ultra runners using that sort of belt (too bulky? too bouncy? not enough storage?), so that's why I asked. I was actually checking out the Ultimate Direction hydration packs with the bottles in the front that you linked, just yesterday. I like that concept, and assume that wouldn't impact your running motion much being that the primary bulk of the weight would be either be centered in the front on your chest (w/ just two bottles filled) or equally front/back (with two bottles filled and a reservoir)?

And candied ginger? Hmmm. Never heard of such a thing. Where would one purchase candied ginger?

Thanks again everyone!
The Cascadias are pretty much hybrid shoes, so would do fine on both pavement and trail that isn't too technical. I did hit a section of trail on my run today near Salt Lake City (details to come) that is the first time they weren't enough - not enough lug/traction action on the bottom for a super steep, loose rock climb/descent, I was slipping and sliding all over the place. But for pretty much everything I do here in Northern California, they're fine, and some of my runs are the same as what you're describing - a mile or so on the road to the trail head. I obviously don't know the trail you'll be running for your 50K, but unless it's really rocky and steep, you shouldn't need anything too aggressive in terms of the shoes. There are a handful of those hybrid or lightweight trail shoes that fall in the category, you should be able to find something that works for you.

As for the UD hydration packs with the bottles, considering Anton Krupicka and Scott Jurek had a hand in designing them it's probably safe to say they should work pretty well. But definitely let us know if you try them out, as I still haven't done so.

Candied ginger - it's everywhere here where I live. Of course there are a lot of health-food, Whole Foods-like stores, so they have a lot of specialty stuff. Trader Joes carries it here (candied or crystalized, same thing), or you can get it on Amazon. I just know that ginger, whether in this form or in ginger ale, has helped my stomach chill out more than once on a long run.

 
I headed out to Salt Lake City on Wednesday night for a big client meeting on Thursday. After the meeting I went out for way too much food and 3.2% ABV beer with my boss (you get full but not drunk, super annoying), but set the alarm for 6:00 AM to head out for a run. It's a big trail running town, with Bryon Powell of iRunFar.com based there, and 100 mile legend Speedgoat Karl nearby as well, so I knew I'd be able to find something. Sure enough I found an article on irunfar from a couple of years ago describing a few nearby trail runs - and I picked the easy one.

After a short initial stretch on fire road not far from the University of Utah, I hit the Bonneville Shoreline Trail - 100 miles of primarily singletrack. Unfortunately I had just one handheld bottle, a couple of hours, and some warm temps, so I set out to at least cover three miles before turning around. It was all uphill on the way out, which began at 5000', and I was sucking wind trying to keep the hiking in the "power" category while running when it would level out a bit. But it was climb, climb, climb to almost 6000', and at the 4 mile mark there was a short, steep, rocky climb that I decided had to be done before I turned around. Strava recorded a 36.4% grade on that little 1/4 mile climb, and it was pretty much scrambling up using my hands, and even tougher to come back down. Then turned around and had fun running back down the hill, trying to enjoy the views while making sure not to take a header on the rocky trail.

It was really a great run, including the friendliest runners and mountain bikers ever up there in Utah - almost everybody said hi, how are you, much more so than people do here in the Bay Area. I will definitely get back out there again, and may plan to stick around for a weekend so I can explore even more, perhaps in conjunction with a Duck football game now that the Utes are in the Pac 12.

Anyway, you know I've got to post a couple pics, (Beer, I know you already saw them, and yes I suck!) because it really was cool up on that exposed ridge, climbing into the lower mountains around the Salt Lake Valley.

Trail head, at least I know I'm in the right place

I could spend a lot of time exploring out here

Looking back down at SLC from 5900'

 
Unofficially 24:22 for my race. Will update when results post online. 89 degrees at starting time. Disappointed to miss my goal, but still an improvement.
results posted online have me at 24:31.

Not gonna lie this whole chip timing thing is kinda confusing to me at this point. When I crossed the finish line the clock said 24:22. I started about halfway back in the pack. So I figured the clock starts when they sound the horn and then my time should start when I cross the starting line. So shouldnt my time be lower than what the clock said? This is the third time now where it is higher and I have never started in the front.

How does the chip know to start timing? I know when you cross the finish line you go over a mat. There is no mat at the starting line.

I did one race in MN and there was a mat at the start and a mat at the end. I started about 50 feet from the starting line. When I finished the race the clock read 8 seconds slower than what my online time was. That made sense to me since I didnt cross the starting line when the horn sounded. It has never made sense to me since. But I also have never crossed anything at the starting line for any race since that.

 
Allen Stone 5k

Official time was 19:37 (Watch had the course long and had me a 19:28...not sure why the variance since it was down and back)

1st in the 30-34 age group.

I should be happy with the result but I'm really not. It's my second best 5k but I just felt sluggish and miserable the whole way. Maybe it was the suck index of 159...maybe it was my leg. Who knows...anyways I guess I should stop whining.

Time for a beer.

 
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Just completed the first race of my life. I'm 36 going on 37 and completed a 5k event in 24:40. Finished 245th out of 4000. I'm definitely not ready to be a regular contributor to this thread, but I came away from this excited to do more going forward and enjoyed the experience immensely.

 
Just completed the first race of my life. I'm 36 going on 37 and completed a 5k event in 24:40. Finished 245th out of 4000. I'm definitely not ready to be a regular contributor to this thread, but I came away from this excited to do more going forward and enjoyed the experience immensely.
That's a solid effort for your first race. Nice work. :thumbup:

Also, don't be afraid to share anything. There's all levels of runners in here and it's cool to see people's progress. Keep it up.

 
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Just completed the first race of my life. I'm 36 going on 37 and completed a 5k event in 24:40. Finished 245th out of 4000. I'm definitely not ready to be a regular contributor to this thread, but I came away from this excited to do more going forward and enjoyed the experience immensely.
That's a solid effort for your first race. Nice work. :thumbup:

Also, don't be afraid to share anything. There's all levels of runners in here and it's cool to see people's progress. Keep it up.
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Congrats, Hang10, on the sub-20, and to you, parasaur, for staying strong on a hot race morning!

 
Para, most of our races locally have chip timing, but only a mat at the finish. It is used for assuring they get the finishers in the right order, but doesn't actually give you a real chip time. You need a mat at the start and finish for that. I am guessing that's what happened to you. Nice job!

Hang Ten, Congrats on the AG win. Awesome! Enjoy the well-earned beer (or six).

Mr. Anon, that is an outstanding time for your first! Congrats.

I ran 14 this morning, capping off a 56-mile week.

 
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Hang 10 said:
Mr Anonymous said:
Just completed the first race of my life. I'm 36 going on 37 and completed a 5k event in 24:40. Finished 245th out of 4000. I'm definitely not ready to be a regular contributor to this thread, but I came away from this excited to do more going forward and enjoyed the experience immensely.
That's a solid effort for your first race. Nice work. :thumbup:

Also, don't be afraid to share anything. There's all levels of runners in here and it's cool to see people's progress. Keep it up.
Thanks for the kind words, I will definitely post more often. I read this topic every day so I may as well chime in once in awhile.

 
Hang 10 said:
Mr Anonymous said:
Just completed the first race of my life. I'm 36 going on 37 and completed a 5k event in 24:40. Finished 245th out of 4000. I'm definitely not ready to be a regular contributor to this thread, but I came away from this excited to do more going forward and enjoyed the experience immensely.
That's a solid effort for your first race. Nice work. :thumbup:

Also, don't be afraid to share anything. There's all levels of runners in here and it's cool to see people's progress. Keep it up.
Thanks for the kind words, I will definitely post more often. I read this topic every day so I may as well chime in once in awhile.
Nice work on your first 5K! Hope to see you around these parts more often.

 
Nice races para, Hang10 (AG Win!) and Mr. A.

Mr. A - first, congrats, that is a great first race. And 4000 finishers in a 5k - wow - and judging by your time/place it was a competitive race - what race was it? Glad to hear that you enjoyed the experience.

 
Nice races para, Hang10 (AG Win!) and Mr. A.

Mr. A - first, congrats, that is a great first race. And 4000 finishers in a 5k - wow - and judging by your time/place it was a competitive race - what race was it? Glad to hear that you enjoyed the experience.
It was the Klement's Racing Sausages 5K at Miller Park in Milwaukee. They cap it at 4000 participants otherwise they'd probably have twice as many people show up. It was a fun course, even takes you into the stadium and around the warning track at around the 2-mile mark. They have 5 people in the actual sausage costumes that run at every Brewers home game that were out there running as well. I've put on the Chorizo costume at an unrelated event and those things are extremely warm inside and very top-heavy. Amazingly, the Italian Sausage came in about 2 minutes behind me at around 26:30. I was floored by that. If I had to run a 5K in one of those things, I think I'd still be on the course.

 
Mr Anonymous said:
Just completed the first race of my life. I'm 36 going on 37 and completed a 5k event in 24:40. Finished 245th out of 4000. I'm definitely not ready to be a regular contributor to this thread, but I came away from this excited to do more going forward and enjoyed the experience immensely.
Nice work for your first. Look forward to hearing about more of your races.

 
Nice races para, Hang10 (AG Win!) and Mr. A.

Mr. A - first, congrats, that is a great first race. And 4000 finishers in a 5k - wow - and judging by your time/place it was a competitive race - what race was it? Glad to hear that you enjoyed the experience.
It was the Klement's Racing Sausages 5K at Miller Park in Milwaukee. They cap it at 4000 participants otherwise they'd probably have twice as many people show up. It was a fun course, even takes you into the stadium and around the warning track at around the 2-mile mark. They have 5 people in the actual sausage costumes that run at every Brewers home game that were out there running as well. I've put on the Chorizo costume at an unrelated event and those things are extremely warm inside and very top-heavy. Amazingly, the Italian Sausage came in about 2 minutes behind me at around 26:30. I was floored by that. If I had to run a 5K in one of those things, I think I'd still be on the course.
My wife ran this race this morning. She said it was a gong show. Parking was crazy, had to wait in line like crazy for water after the race and they just ditched out before getting their free beer and sausage because they didnt want to wait in line. Some got parked in because they arrived early and they put up a tent blocking them in after they had parked. They were directed to park there though.

I was very happy I picked the festa italiana run last night instead. German fest has a 5k run thursday night.

 
Nice races para, Hang10 (AG Win!) and Mr. A.

Mr. A - first, congrats, that is a great first race. And 4000 finishers in a 5k - wow - and judging by your time/place it was a competitive race - what race was it? Glad to hear that you enjoyed the experience.
It was the Klement's Racing Sausages 5K at Miller Park in Milwaukee. They cap it at 4000 participants otherwise they'd probably have twice as many people show up. It was a fun course, even takes you into the stadium and around the warning track at around the 2-mile mark. They have 5 people in the actual sausage costumes that run at every Brewers home game that were out there running as well. I've put on the Chorizo costume at an unrelated event and those things are extremely warm inside and very top-heavy. Amazingly, the Italian Sausage came in about 2 minutes behind me at around 26:30. I was floored by that. If I had to run a 5K in one of those things, I think I'd still be on the course.
Nice job guys! Way to go Hang 10!

Mr. A nice job on the first 5k! Good job not getting chicked by a sausage as well!

 
So I didn't make it in time for my first 10k today. Got stuck behind a major accident on the highway and another just off the exit on the way there. Was really excited to race too. Even more upset after looking up the race results and seeing I most likely would have won my AG. Was aiming for a sub 48 and my AG winner was at 48:46.

Time to find a new race.

 
So I didn't make it in time for my first 10k today. Got stuck behind a major accident on the highway and another just off the exit on the way there. Was really excited to race too. Even more upset after looking up the race results and seeing I most likely would have won my AG. Was aiming for a sub 48 and my AG winner was at 48:46.

Time to find a new race.
Almost 49 minutes won your age group? What are you 87?

 
para - Congrats on your PR. Don't be disappointed to miss a goal in that kind of heat. :thumbup: Are you sure they didn't post your gun times only? Your chip time will always be faster than the gun time.

Duck - those pics are insane.

Hang10 - You're not allowed to whine when you win your AG. Especially running your 2nd fastest time ever in #### conditions. Congrats!

Anonymous - Congrats and welcome! Don't be shy.

worrier - good work! Marathon training in this heat sucks balls, but it's going to pay huge in a few months.

furley - :finger:

 
So I didn't make it in time for my first 10k today. Got stuck behind a major accident on the highway and another just off the exit on the way there. Was really excited to race too. Even more upset after looking up the race results and seeing I most likely would have won my AG. Was aiming for a sub 48 and my AG winner was at 48:46.

Time to find a new race.
Huge bummer. Sorry to hear that Annyong.

 
BassNBrew and Duck - Final question regarding rehydration packs/belts. If you had to make a call right now based on the fact that I'm going to be building up training to my first ultra, would you go with:

1) Solomon Twin XT Hydration Belt - http://www.rei.com/product/846112/salomon-xt-twin-hydration-belt

-or-

2a) UD AK Race Vest - http://ultimatedirection.com/p-600-ak-race-vest.aspx?category=signature-series

2b) UD SJ Ultra Vest - http://ultimatedirection.com/p-601-sj-ultra-vest.aspx?category=signature-series

Pretty sure I know BNB's answer, but what about the Solomon belt makes you like it so much? Is two 20oz bottles enough most of the time? Is there room enough in the storage pouch for another 8-10oz flask type bottle? Is the storage in the pocket(s) sizable enough for what you'd like on your typical runs? What do you consider the upsides/downsides to this particular belt?

Not sure which way Duck would recommend for a newbie, but I'm definitely interested. Would the Ultimate Direction packs be overkill for runs of less than a couple hours of duration? I like the packs from the standpoint of having that extra room if/when it's needed, though just not sure how often I'd utilize the pack storage.

Sorry for all the questions, but I hate to drop $65-125 and then regret the purchase after making an uninformed decision. Thanks guys.

 
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So I didn't make it in time for my first 10k today. Got stuck behind a major accident on the highway and another just off the exit on the way there. Was really excited to race too. Even more upset after looking up the race results and seeing I most likely would have won my AG. Was aiming for a sub 48 and my AG winner was at 48:46.

Time to find a new race.
Small race? That's a really slow first place but it happens in small fields sometimes. My 47:xx was good for 1/5 a few weeks ago. I left without getting my cash because it never occurred to me to stick around with that time. :bag:

 

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