This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Hey All! Miss you guys.
). I've had tendoniitis issues in both elbows/biceps, so I've spent most of my time on the bike and elliptical while working core. Doc told me that it was not the wisest thing to do P90x for 16 straight months, lifting heavier with each workout, when it's supposed to be a 12 week program. Ha. Who knew. Recovery is almost full, and I'll be back to overusing muscles again soon.
So do I.I probably will but there isn't any rush. I doubt it will sell out. That's very closed to the Assualt on Mt. Mitchell and Bridge to Bridge which finishes on top of Grandfather Mt is being moved from September to early June. Worst case is that I'll ride it bandit. It will be a training ride for me and I won't make it up those hills unless I lose some weight. I also need to see what if any ultras I get into.Sand said:So are you going to sign up for that Beech Metric? It is tempting, as the downhill was fun. The uphill should be about the same, right?
Let me know what your thoughts are about BSG as we get closer. I have some unfinished business with Snake.
The prodigal son returns!
I see what's happening here. We might need to get you an adult sippy cup.I've had a good summer of debauchery (
Good to hear from you!!!
Wanted y'all to know I'm alive and well. I've had a good summer of training and debauchery (did RAGBRAI again
Main reason I'm on here is to support Tri-Man. Saw that you have a little race coming up, and hope that you kick its ###!!!!!!!
Grue; you know your limits (which are few) better than the rest. Trust your judgement.
To everyone else, I hope training is going well.
To give credit where credit is due, I got that bit of advice from this thread! (I don't remember from whom, though.)
Are you thinking about riding both? We could make one a training weekend.So do I.I probably will but there isn't any rush. I doubt it will sell out. That's very closed to the Assualt on Mt. Mitchell and Bridge to Bridge which finishes on top of Grandfather Mt is being moved from September to early June. Worst case is that I'll ride it bandit. It will be a training ride for me and I won't make it up those hills unless I lose some weight. I also need to see what if any ultras I get into.Sand said:So are you going to sign up for that Beech Metric? It is tempting, as the downhill was fun. The uphill should be about the same, right?
Let me know what your thoughts are about BSG as we get closer. I have some unfinished business with Snake.
The prodigal son returns!
Holy crap...he came back for even just a brief moment.
Wanted y'all to know I'm alive and well. I've had a good summer of training and debauchery (did RAGBRAI again
Main reason I'm on here is to support Tri-Man. Saw that you have a little race coming up, and hope that you kick its ###!!!!!!!
Grue; you know your limits (which are few) better than the rest. Trust your judgement.
To everyone else, I hope training is going well.
I am too OCD to not know what I am running at any given moment, even if its wrong. Actually, I have wanted to try the lap option a keep forgetting to change the setting. I echo others, TM, crush it on Sunday. I am guessing that this marathon does not have trackable splits, so maybe you could have your daughter post updates on your FB wall.
Just remind him it's still early days in the season, and that the heat/humidity did not make it a true test of everyone's running ability - it just made it a test of who could withstand the elements. He'll come back from this stronger and more determined. My son should be finishing up his time trial any minute now. It's his first timed race ever and I think he might be in for a little surprise himself - he thought he was going to be #8, but I wouldn't be shocked if a couple of the guys who have been behind him in practice show him a little something about racing and end up ahead of him.
He finished 8th, sounds like he ran a good race. Finished at 21:15 (in 87 degree heat on a course that twice runs a brutal hill - up over 100 feet in about a tenth of a mile), a minute out of 7th, about 3 minutes behind the #1 guy, who was 10th in the conference last year. Two or 3 guys finished within 20 seconds of my son, so there's a clear distinction between the 7 guys on the varsity and the JV. Twice he was challenged heading into the hill and used the climb to put away the other guy. I think we're both pretty happy with how it turned out!
Silly boy, you're presuming I have a smartphone? Good idea with the app, but I'm very comfortable settling into a pace ...and I've done a lot of miles in the 7:50s pace range. And what are these earphones you speak of?
ldschool: Since I always run without headphones/music, I'm comfortable using mantras or just letting my mind drift along. I'll see my daughter every two miles or so through mile 12, so that will pass quickly. Then the rails-to-trails path cuts uninterrupted through the countryside for 7 miles, so I'll just do my Forrest Gump and just keep runnink.
What could possibly go wrong? Be careful out there.
Yoga.
Achilles injuries often manifest themselves in the heel. My bout of achilles tendonitis was exactly what you described -- the upper inside/outside parts of my heel hurt all morning, but it felt a lot better after running on it, and then it would start hurting again. Finally it hurt so bad after I finished a run that I couldn't even walk on it. Your achilles tendon fans out around the heel, so the pain doesn't have to be right on the rope-y part to involve that tendon.
Nice job Hang 10!!!!!Winnah winnah chicken dinnah! 1:34:21I'm pretty pleased with the time considering the conditions. Upper 70's, due point of 72 and 92% humidity...just gushing sweat. Anyway, I'll try to give a better report later but now, I must drink.
well damn. I thought I saw he came in at 3:27.
Man sorry to hear this tri, I was pulling hard for you bud. Great effort and as the others have said, it was not for lack of preparation on your part.No Frills Marathon
3:44:40 (8:32/mile; avg HR 167)
As gruecd noted, I was unsuccessful in the BQ attempt, needing a sub-3:40 (on FB, my daughter got a little too optimistic based on my 20 mile split). Ultimately, conditions and quads conspired against me. It's very disappointing, of course. I did what I needed to do: I raced the marathon to try and hit the qualifying time. But it wasn't a favorable day to make it happen.
All the pre-race stuff on my end was OK. However, thunderstorms rolled through at 3:30 a.m. and continued into the early miles of the race (a big deluge hit twenty minutes before we started). Temps were around mid-60s, and the humidity was close to 100%. The effect was that as the race started, my HR was about ten ticks higher than it otherwise would be for marathon pace (160s vs. 150s). For all my training, I had not experienced this. Frankly, I didn't quite know what to do about it.
The race broke down into four sections:
1) Miles 1-3
7:44 (HR 159), 7:56 (161), 7:59 (163)
A bit of a Sanded start while the HR was (theoretically) low. I was surprised and confused by the HR when I first looked. I tried to back off and get it in the 150s, but without significant adjustment, that wasn't happening.
2) Miles 4-12
8:05s to 8:10s/mile (HR mid 160s, some climb to high 160s)
I adjusted my goal from the 3:30 target to 3:35 (=8:12/mile), but realized the HR was still an issue. The miles came and went alright, but the HR kept moving.
3) Miles 13-22
8:20s or higher (HR high 160s climbing to mid-170s)
Another readjustment: Work to hold regular BQ qualifying pace (=8:24/mile) and keep the earlier bank.
Mile 16 had a short, steep hill that cost 30 seconds.
The battleground became miles 19-22. Miles 19 and 20 regressed up to 8:50s and a HR in the 170s. That's when I really did think of some of you no-quit warriors here and fought back. Miles 21 and 22 were 8:21 and 8:27.
4) Miles 23-26
9:00s and 10:00s. I was spent. I tried to keep making moves, but I lost the pacing as my quads tightened up. My average pace was still 8:24 through mile 23, but I couldn't stride, which meant I could not run 8:24s for another three miles. It's fair to suggest, though, that this became mental as well as physical.
Maybe I should have changed strategy much earlier instead of slowing backing off. Unfortunately, I was into mile 1 before I discovered the challenge. So: no Boston.
) from here and it provides that extra effort you need to get over the hump.
Great job bro!Winnah winnah chicken dinnah! 1:34:21
I'm pretty pleased with the time considering the conditions. Upper 70's, due point of 72 and 92% humidity...just gushing sweat. Anyway, I'll try to give a better report later but now, I must drink.
So proud to see the fight in you, Tri. Most people would've thrown in the towel when Plan A went to ####. I know you're disappointed, but you showed a lot of fight and that's something to be damn proud of.Man sorry to hear this tri, I was pulling hard for you bud. Great effort and as the others have said, it was not for lack of preparation on your part.The bolded statement is what makes this thread and you guys an awesome resource. It's funny how in the middle of a struggle you remember something stupid (or usefulNo Frills Marathon
3:44:40 (8:32/mile; avg HR 167)
As gruecd noted, I was unsuccessful in the BQ attempt, needing a sub-3:40 (on FB, my daughter got a little too optimistic based on my 20 mile split). Ultimately, conditions and quads conspired against me. It's very disappointing, of course. I did what I needed to do: I raced the marathon to try and hit the qualifying time. But it wasn't a favorable day to make it happen.
All the pre-race stuff on my end was OK. However, thunderstorms rolled through at 3:30 a.m. and continued into the early miles of the race (a big deluge hit twenty minutes before we started). Temps were around mid-60s, and the humidity was close to 100%. The effect was that as the race started, my HR was about ten ticks higher than it otherwise would be for marathon pace (160s vs. 150s). For all my training, I had not experienced this. Frankly, I didn't quite know what to do about it.
The race broke down into four sections:
1) Miles 1-3
7:44 (HR 159), 7:56 (161), 7:59 (163)
A bit of a Sanded start while the HR was (theoretically) low. I was surprised and confused by the HR when I first looked. I tried to back off and get it in the 150s, but without significant adjustment, that wasn't happening.
2) Miles 4-12
8:05s to 8:10s/mile (HR mid 160s, some climb to high 160s)
I adjusted my goal from the 3:30 target to 3:35 (=8:12/mile), but realized the HR was still an issue. The miles came and went alright, but the HR kept moving.
3) Miles 13-22
8:20s or higher (HR high 160s climbing to mid-170s)
Another readjustment: Work to hold regular BQ qualifying pace (=8:24/mile) and keep the earlier bank.
Mile 16 had a short, steep hill that cost 30 seconds.
The battleground became miles 19-22. Miles 19 and 20 regressed up to 8:50s and a HR in the 170s. That's when I really did think of some of you no-quit warriors here and fought back. Miles 21 and 22 were 8:21 and 8:27.
4) Miles 23-26
9:00s and 10:00s. I was spent. I tried to keep making moves, but I lost the pacing as my quads tightened up. My average pace was still 8:24 through mile 23, but I couldn't stride, which meant I could not run 8:24s for another three miles. It's fair to suggest, though, that this became mental as well as physical.
Maybe I should have changed strategy much earlier instead of slowing backing off. Unfortunately, I was into mile 1 before I discovered the challenge. So: no Boston.
Yeah after reading up on the internet I think it might be an achilles problem. Problem is there's not a good doctor or PT that I know/trust around here. One of the problems with living out in the sticks I guess...There's a PA working tomorrow, so I'm going to try to get in to see her just to get a referral somewhere.
& 
