Ran a 10k in June (8 Viewers)

[Juxtatarot]

So, Grue, weather forecast looks good in both Erie and Naperville next Sunday!

pretty nervous about Naperville. havent ran over 6 in over a month

Well, nice weather is always a huge boost. I think you'll be fine.

 

[beer 302]

What do you know about Leadville? Looks like 500 finished this year and 300-400 dnf'd. No info on registartion on their site. Do they take all comers?

Was going to post but the Duck's post says it all. It appeared to be pretty bad with the aid stations.

I'm not sure the registration process, but I think Leadville does take all comers, and it became a problem this year. They had around 1000 people, plus 3-4 times that amount in crew and support people, and it apparently was a huge mess. One of the benefits of Leadville is that it's largely on the road or nearby, so there is crew and spectator access pretty much everywhere. But there were so many people this year that I heard stories of hours for crew to get into aid stations, and missing their runners. Aid stations out of water with 100s of runners still to come. Restaurants in Leadville out of food, so hungry runners and crew had no place to eat after the race. It just sounded like a mess. So it's been quite a topic on some of the ultra sites, whether ultrarunning has "lost its soul" because of what happened at Leadville. I think that's a bit of an overreaction as there should be a place for larger ultras if the infrastructure is in place to support them, but obviously they need to tighten this one up for next year.Of course the leaders didn't know any of that was going on and had a great experience, so if you're fast enough you'll be fine

On that note, the two top finishers of Leadville were Ian Sharman and Nick Clarke, who just both broke the Grand Slam of Ultrarunning record by over 5 hours. What's the Grand Slam you ask? Only four of the most prestigious 100 milers in the country - Western States, Vermont, Leadville, and Wasatch - run over an 11 week period. The amazing thing is how well Ian and Nick did throughout - Ian finished 4th, 4th, 1st, and 2nd and Nick was 6th, 3rd, 2nd, and 1st. In the end, Ian's combined times were about 30 minutes lower than Nick's to take the Grand Slam. Two true badasses, that's for sure. I just can't imagine the recovery it takes to not only run four 100s that close together, but to compete at that a high of a level while doing so. Amazing what the human body (well, not mine, but others) can do.....

Below is a write-up from an ultra guy I follow on FB. He's run about every major ultra pretty much ever hear int he states so I take his word pretty seriously when he talks about a race.

In the meantime, it seems there's been a lot of chatter on various ultra-running sites and blogs this last week about this year's "lousy Leadville". Being on my self-imposed sabbatical means I've had the good fortune to miss all that. Although going through my emails this evening, one particular post caught my eye. In response to someone's comment about there being so many other/better 100 mile races to run, I decided to stick my big jester nose into the fray and add my two cents. For what it's worth (two cents of course), here's what I had to say:

I was there this year. Having no previous LT100s to compare to, I can only go with what I experienced this year. Here's my single experience/humble opinion on the good, the bad and the ugly of Leadville 100, saving the good for last:

The Bad: It was definitely crowded - with nearly 1,000 runners on single track going around the lake outbound, it was one huge congo line - too much energy and a bit too risky of rolling an ankle to try to pass, just to get 10 feet further, although some did. And once runners made the turn around and were coming back on this 50 mile out & back trail, the single track, especially up and over Hope Pass was made even more time consuming/cumbersome/treacherous having to step aside constantly to let runners (and their pacers) move by, unimpeded. It may not seem like that big of a deal, but when you're sucking air it's difficult to step off the course with bad footing, and then try to get a momentum going again - both going up hill and down hill. It was certainly problematic. If you like trail running because of the solitude - just you and nature - then this is not your race. With so many runners on the course, there was always someone a little ahead, or a little behind (at least for the 15 hours this mid/back-of-the-pack guy was on the course).

The Ugly: Aid stations where crowded, lacked supplies in the later stages of the race, and took support crews up two hours to get in & out of. Didn't experience this myself, but some friends where only offered water - from "recycled" cups (retrieved from the trash) at the 12,000 foot high Hope(less) Pass, on the return journey. A.S. cutoff times seemed to be arbitrarily enforced. A couple of sections of the course were run on the street, with the chaos of support/crew vehicles trying to make their way in and out of aid stations - amazingly no one was hit (at least not that I'm aware of).

And finally, The Good: This is a historic race. It's 31 years old and is one of the four races in the Ultra Slam series. Unlike many of the other "big" 100s, there's no lottery and no prerequisite ultra experience required to enter this race. It's open to anyone (to the chagrin of many). Certainly not something I would do, but for a small number of runners each year, this is their first 100 mile experience - and a decent percentage of those first timers actually finish the race (mostly acclimated Colorado locals I'm guessing). This is the largest field of 100 mile runners of any race in North America, and if I'm not mistaken, 2nd in the world, only surpassed by UTMB, (I'm not including stage races in this figure, because in my opinion that's a completely different animal), so if you're a people person, all these people make it even more fun. With the out & back aspect, you have an opportunity to see every single runner on the course, including all your friends (at least those that are still in the race) and all of the front runners, as you cross paths. That greatly contributes to some of the problems mentioned in 'The Bad', but for a mid/back-of-the-pack guy like myself, it's pretty cool and is worth the trade-off. The views - if you dare take your eyes off your next foot plant to look around - are amazing, especially to a low-land SoCal kid like myself. The whole experience of hanging out with hundreds of fellow 100 milers for a few days in a quaint little town is pretty cool. That ultra community aspect of this race reminds me of one of the things I love about Badwater - it's like a big ultra family reunion, from all over the world.

So with the greatest respect to Brian Pilgrim (who I've shared the course with at least once - last years JJ100, and is a 2012 Slammer - big congrats BTW), I think that people need to of course do their due diligence, like any other 100 miler that they're about to invest a ton of money and time into, and read other's race reports about this race. If they don't like what they read, then by all means they should forgo this one and pick a race that more suits their needs and tastes, because with over 100 U.S. races of 100(+) mile distance to choose from, there's no reason to run a race that they know won't meet their expectations. That is unless they're going for the Ultra Slam, in which case they'll just have to plug their nose, suck it up and go for it . And if they do attend LT100, while the same management is still in place, and without these problems being addressed, they really shouldn't complain.

Would I do it again? You bet I would, even with all the problems mentioned. But I would be going into this race with a lowered expectation, at least in these areas, from the get go. My wife and I had a great experience, with old and new friends, and I thoroughly enjoyed the race, in spite of all the snafus, and in spite of getting a major scolding from race management (another story for another day, but in short, it was just me being 'The Jester' and doing what I've done at 100s of races, with race management's blessing).

(*Sidenote for Jester Nation friends & family. Shortly after the picture below was taken during the National Anthem (I'm hoping that I attached it correctly to this post), one of the race staff from Lifetime Fitness came up to me and told me I was about to get DQed from the race, for not being in the coral, on the other side of the start line. I tried to explain to her that this is what I do at all my races, even 25,000(+) at a marathon, standing on the sideline cheering/cowbelling for all the runners until the last person crosses the start line, and then I cross the start line as the very last runner myself, and that if she was worried about me "cheating" by jumping in with/ahead of my fellow runners, I wouldn't have an official start anyway, so would automatically be DQed by the computer. (This was a timing chipped race, so all runners had to have an official chip start to be officially in the race.) The starter gun was just about to go off, so she cleared out. She got my bib number, so I'm expecting to get a certified letter from Lifetime Fitness any day now, not to give me a lifetime entry into the race, but rather a lifetime ban from the race. On hindsight, since I had my sponsors shirt on, instead of trying to explain my actions I should have just made my way all the way around the barriers to the very back of the corral - I probably would have had a 30 second faster start time. But then I wouldn't be the jester.)

In full disclosure, by a strange twist of fate, I, along with a handful of my SoCal friends, was lucky enough to be sponsored (by Herbalife 24, not Lifetime Fitness), so I had a support crew, free race entry, and free lodging and meals. In full disclosure 2, I DNFed, so I need to come back for redemption, if for no other reason, then just to get one of those really cool buckles - in particular that sub-25 buckle. And taking full onus for my DNF, I don't blame any of the problems mentioned above. It was simply this low-land, SoCal joker, not doing sufficient altitude training, therefore sucking thin air big time at the higher elevations.

Ed "The Jester" Ettinghausen

(100 mile finishes - 47; 100 mile DNFs - 2)

 

[SteveC702]

PatriotJohn I have had two (that I am aware of) experiences with irritated bursa sacs, although they were both symptoms of me trying to compensate for IT band issues this past summer and were more in the hamstring area. The first time my doctor prescribed some NSAIDs that seemed to clear it up, and then the second time I got some steroid/non-steroid mix. Both treatments cleared up the symptoms in 7-10 days with me doing light cross-training (30-45 minutes of biking a day) the first go-around and then absolutely nothing for the second cycle. Also, if you are this close to a goal race, anything you do right now won't improve your fitness anyways so if I were in your shoes (and I was this spring) I would just rest.

Cliff notes: get some sort of anti-inflammatories and take appropriate dosages. If you have good insurance II would recommend seeing a doctor so you can get something a little stronger. (plus they might be able to even diagnose causes or preventive measures for the future). If you can do that arm cardio thing you're talking about I would do that.

Bnb & the ultras crewAh, I have heard good things about this race, and was specifically reminded of it when I was talking with a massage therapist last week. Hope you get in or at least find a race to run.

 

[SteveC702]

On a side note: I forgot my facebook feed looks like Christmas morning on the day Boston registration opens. Of course, I am doing my part to contribute as well...

 

[FUBAR]

I have grown to love the rhythm of marathon running and cranking out mile after mile at less than a minute slower than my 5K race pace... but I get more than my fix after 2.5 hours.

I've lost this for some reason. I no longer have any desire to train for a marathon. But I'm absolutely stoked about Half and full ironman. It's somewhat ironic, as I will probably run marathons and perhaps a 50k now but not "train for" them as they would become a training event towards the IM.

 

[SteveC702]

I have grown to love the rhythm of marathon running and cranking out mile after mile at less than a minute slower than my 5K race pace... but I get more than my fix after 2.5 hours.

I've lost this for some reason. I no longer have any desire to train for a marathon. But I'm absolutely stoked about Half and full ironman. It's somewhat ironic, as I will probably run marathons and perhaps a 50k now but not "train for" them as they would become a training event towards the IM.

Sometimes the different type of stimulus and mental approach helps. My friend that I mentioned earlier had trouble breaking 3 hours until he ran a few ultras, and the different training stimulus and higher mileage allowed him to break 2:50 when he finally re-focused on it for a few weeks.

To be honest, my favorite event is probably the half. I suspect my best distance now might be somewhere in the 8-10 mile range, but 10-milers are rare (at least where I have lived) and there are no 8-mile races.

 

[PatriotJohn]

SteveC: Thanks for the input. I also talked to a friend afterwards who is a podiatrist and also suggested total rest/immobilization for about a week. I am going to get an ankle brace this afternoon and do about 7-8 days in it. As for Cardio, the arms (and maybe the good foot) on the airdyne will at least help me keep my cardio up, along with some Insanity Cardio abs to keep my core strong during the next week. Thanks again!

 

[koby925]

My favorite XC/Road distance back in the day and now if I could ever find it, is 2.5 miles. Any NE guys may remember doing it at Van Courtlandt Park in the Bronx. Eastern States is one big meet they do that we always ran and I think they do a few meets a year at that distance. I loved that distance. Felt like I could run close to all out the whole race without having to save some in the tank like a 5k. And I always placed better in those.

 

[FUBAR]

My favorite XC/Road distance back in the day and now if I could ever find it, is 2.5 miles. Any NE guys may remember doing it at Van Courtlandt Park in the Bronx. Eastern States is one big meet they do that we always ran and I think they do a few meets a year at that distance. I loved that distance. Felt like I could run close to all out the whole race without having to save some in the tank like a 5k. And I always placed better in those.

the 2 mile is like that. I'm slow enough that I pretty much go all out for the full distance, hit around a 12-12:30 minute total but can't get my half mile under 3.

 

[koby925]

My favorite XC/Road distance back in the day and now if I could ever find it, is 2.5 miles. Any NE guys may remember doing it at Van Courtlandt Park in the Bronx. Eastern States is one big meet they do that we always ran and I think they do a few meets a year at that distance. I loved that distance. Felt like I could run close to all out the whole race without having to save some in the tank like a 5k. And I always placed better in those.

the 2 mile is like that. I'm slow enough that I pretty much go all out for the full distance, hit around a 12-12:30 minute total but can't get my half mile under 3.

Yes, FUBAR! I expected most here will say they don't get a workout until they swim further than 2 miles.

 

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Race week for me. Ran good on Sat AM with plans to push for a 30 min / 3mi prep run Sunday AM. Sat I felt fantastic after 22 min run, then proceeded to go on an all day bender between casinos in tunica then BWW for the Mich/ND game. Got home at midnight fully blasted. Woke up at 9am dehydrated and feeling like ###. Put off starting the run till 11am when I finally made it out of bed.

Started off great but soon the heat (90+ degrees, strong sun and high humidity) started getting to us. I started to bonk a bit at 2.2 miles but pushed on. The GF had to quit just short of 2.5 miles so I stopped to walk with her. Suddenly was overcome with the need to puke and felt like heatstroke was coming on (fighting to not puke or pass out). Walked back the house and collapsed on the couch and watched football the rest of the day. Fail.

MORAL OF THE STORY: Don't be a ####### and get black-out drunk the night before the race.

That said, the night of the race is looking good. Sun will be down (7pm start), temps look to be ~77-80F with moderate humidity. Also the course looks to be flatter (with a downhill homestretch) than the course we've been "training" on. That plus resting up this week (light 15 min run Tuesday but taking wed/thurs off) should me up nicely for being able to make the distance successfully on Friday. Fingers crossed.

Anyways thought you guys would get a chuckle out of my stupidity

 

[Hang 10]

Race week for me. Ran good on Sat AM with plans to push for a 30 min / 3mi prep run Sunday AM. Sat I felt fantastic after 22 min run, then proceeded to go on an all day bender between casinos in tunica then BWW for the Mich/ND game. Got home at midnight fully blasted. Woke up at 9am dehydrated and feeling like ###. Put off starting the run till 11am when I finally made it out of bed.

Started off great but soon the heat (90+ degrees, strong sun and high humidity) started getting to us. I started to bonk a bit at 2.2 miles but pushed on. The GF had to quit just short of 2.5 miles so I stopped to walk with her. Suddenly was overcome with the need to puke and felt like heatstroke was coming on (fighting to not puke or pass out). Walked back the house and collapsed on the couch and watched football the rest of the day. Fail.

MORAL OF THE STORY: Don't be a ####### and get black-out drunk the night before the race.

That said, the night of the race is looking good. Sun will be down (7pm start), temps look to be ~77-80F with moderate humidity. Also the course looks to be flatter (with a downhill homestretch) than the course we've been "training" on. That plus resting up this week (light 15 min run Tuesday but taking wed/thurs off) should me up nicely for being able to make the distance successfully on Friday. Fingers crossed.

Anyways thought you guys would get a chuckle out of my stupidity

If I didn't run the mornings after I got plastered, I wouldn't much run on the weekends.

 

[tri-man 47]

On a side note: I forgot my facebook feed looks like Christmas morning on the day Boston registration opens. Of course, I am doing my part to contribute as well...

Steve - You've qualified, right (from back before your set-backs)? If you hear news later next week, keep us informed. Chad and I, as you know, are both counting on (a) running a qualifying time on the 22nd and then (b) garnering a spot on the 23rd.

 

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Anyways thought you guys would get a chuckle out of my stupidity

If I didn't run the mornings after I got plastered, I wouldn't much run on the weekends.

I hear ya!

 

[SteveC702]

PatriotJohn - no problem, hope your issue clears up relatively quickly and good luck in 2 weeks, I ran the half there a few years ago and plan on doing the full next year. Keep us posted.

Koby / Fubar a new distance that I like a lot now is the 1.5 mile run, since my wife and her co-workers all have to run it for her PT test so I did one a few years ago to kind of quiet some of them, but now I do a 1.5 mile time trial before big 5ks as a predictor workout. I don't have to push as hard as the mile and I don't have to suffer as long as a 5k.

tri- i signed up this morning as i ran a marathon 2 days after the qualifying window opened last year. (have to wait 2 days if I used my Boston time this year) and posted some regarding the issue on Grue's FB wall, cliff note version is that I think if you hit your time in 2 weeks you're in.

 

[BassNBrew]

How about this for a potential kick in the nads. At 12:30 I get an e-mail that I was a lottery winner into a race. At 12:36 I get an e-mail that unfortunately I wasn't selected. I've e-mailed the race director for clarification. Something tells me he's working through a huge mess right now that wasn't his doing.

 

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How about this for a potential kick in the nads. At 12:30 I get an e-mail that I was a lottery winner into a race. At 12:36 I get an e-mail that unfortunately I wasn't selected. I've e-mailed the race director for clarification. Something tells me he's working through a huge mess right now that wasn't his doing.

:( lame. GLLLL

 

[worrierking]

Hey Gang. Tough weekend here. My father had a mild stroke Friday. He's still in the hospital but hoping to be discharged tomorrow.

I missed both my Friday and Saturday runs and got in a brief 7-miler Sunday in the middle of the day (which was stupid) and an even briefer four-miler this morning. I should be peaking for my marathon October 13th as I am five weeks out. Instead I am emptying bed pans and reassuring an 86-year old man that he is not going crazy (at 3am).

My Dad is ok, as he has no motor skill issues from the stroke. His only big issue was he completely lost his speech Friday and he is slowly regaining it. But he is too weak to get up to go to the bathroom and I am afraid I am going to be playing night nurse for awhile when they send him home. My Mom is in no condition to care for him by herself.

Upshot is that I may miss the race. We will see how it all shakes out. I am trained enough now where I feel confident I could have a good race even with a five-week taper, but it may not be possible for me to be gone for three days. My wife is telling me she will do whatever is necessary to allow me to go (I don't think she realizes there is wiping involved). I also have football roadtrips coming up that I can't miss, so that complicates things too.

Good running everybody. I may not be here much for a while.

 

[gruecd]

So, Grue, weather forecast looks good in both Erie and Naperville next Sunday!

Sadly, I've decided against doing either. :( I don't get home until late Wednesday night from a conference that I'm attending in Florida. I'll play catch-up all day Thursday, and then I'm driving around all day Friday on client appointments. To get back in the car after all that travel, drive 10+ hours to Erie, and then try to run a sub-3:10 marathon is just asking too much.

As tri-man pointed out, I've decided to just stay home and relax this weekend and take my shot at Fox Cities here in Appleton on the 22nd. Boston might still be open, and it might not. If it happens to already be closed or if it's too warm, I'll probably just go back to pacing, otherwise my would-be co-pacer will handle it on his own.

 

[FUBAR]

Koby / Fubar a new distance that I like a lot now is the 1.5 mile run, since my wife and her co-workers all have to run it for her PT test so I did one a few years ago to kind of quiet some of them, but now I do a 1.5 mile time trial before big 5ks as a predictor workout. I don't have to push as hard as the mile and I don't have to suffer as long as a 5k.

Reading up on HIIT, I think the 60-second dash (8 times) could be interesting.

the book states how the benefits of HIIT mimic those of training for 5 hours, but has anyone trained for a marathon or other long distance event purely with HIIT? Might be worth "researching"

 

[FUBAR]

MFer! Within 20 minutes of the registration opening, it looks like the Chattanooga Ironman sold out.

Were you trying to get in? This year they gave the local tri clubs a one day head start. Next year if you want to get in they may offer that and you may want to join my club. Or another big local club if you're close to Chattanooga.

I got in!! Lucky enough to be online right at noon. The race sold out in 3 minutes, according to a note from the IM CEO on Slowtwitch.

BTW - I got a note from IM this morning, and if you were logged into Active when they had all the server issues, you may still be able to sign up. They will be opening some additional slots.

I wrote the site admin and received this email:

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[SIZE=12pt]We hope that you received the email last night regarding the 2014 IRONMAN Chattanooga Registration issues that occurred on Wednesday[/SIZE]. Based on the order in which you enter the registration form on Wednesday, unfortunately we are not able to offer you entry into 2014 IRONMAN Chattanooga. However, we would like to offer you priority registration into one of the following 2014 IRONMAN races: IRONMAN Lake Tahoe, IRONMAN Florida or IRONMAN Arizona.

[SIZE=12pt]Please use the link below to fill out the 2014 IRONMAN Priority Registration Offer form so that we can collect your information in order to process your 2014 priority registration:[/SIZE]

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Lake Tahoe is an event I wanted to do years ago, but each of these is a long travel from me right now.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Worrierking- :( I hope your dad makes a speedy and full recovery. We all know that running has to fall to the back burner at times.

Grue- Good luck! Maybe us Midwesterners could pick a half in 2014 that isn't around the time of other races and important deadlines.

 

[SteveC702]

Fubar- I am sure that's something I am boneheaded to try at some point, although probably not on purpose. (i.e. has to be a scenario where I get hurt again for an extended period of time but somehow talk myself into running a marathon with little/no time to train)

Worrieking- Best of wishes for your dad and rest of your family. Like Juxt said running has to take a backseat sometimes to life.

 

[gruecd]

Grue- Good luck! Maybe us Midwesterners could pick a half in 2014 that isn't around the time of other races and important deadlines.

Yeah, for sure. Also, if any of you guys wanna use my hotel room on Saturday night, let me know. It's already paid for, and obviously I won't be using it.

 

[tri-man 47]

Worrierking - family first. I know how difficult life can become when caring for aging parents. You'll have plenty of time to run and race later on.

 

[Hang 10]

Hey Gang. Tough weekend here. My father had a mild stroke Friday. He's still in the hospital but hoping to be discharged tomorrow.

I missed both my Friday and Saturday runs and got in a brief 7-miler Sunday in the middle of the day (which was stupid) and an even briefer four-miler this morning. I should be peaking for my marathon October 13th as I am five weeks out. Instead I am emptying bed pans and reassuring an 86-year old man that he is not going crazy (at 3am).

My Dad is ok, as he has no motor skill issues from the stroke. His only big issue was he completely lost his speech Friday and he is slowly regaining it. But he is too weak to get up to go to the bathroom and I am afraid I am going to be playing night nurse for awhile when they send him home. My Mom is in no condition to care for him by herself.

Upshot is that I may miss the race. We will see how it all shakes out. I am trained enough now where I feel confident I could have a good race even with a five-week taper, but it may not be possible for me to be gone for three days. My wife is telling me she will do whatever is necessary to allow me to go (I don't think she realizes there is wiping involved). I also have football roadtrips coming up that I can't miss, so that complicates things too.

Good running everybody. I may not be here much for a while.

Damn man. Sorry to hear that. Wishing your pops a speedy recovery. Good luck no matter what decision you make.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Grue- Good luck! Maybe us Midwesterners could pick a half in 2014 that isn't around the time of other races and important deadlines.

Yeah, for sure. Also, if any of you guys wanna use my hotel room on Saturday night, let me know. It's already paid for, and obviously I won't be using it.

Thanks but I'm only about 15 minutes away. Maybe Annyong will want a night away from screaming kids.

 

[Sand]

Hey Gang. Tough weekend here. My father had a mild stroke Friday. He's still in the hospital but hoping to be discharged tomorrow.

T&P, GB.

Lake Tahoe is an event I wanted to do years ago, but each of these is a long travel from me right now.

I've heard great things about that one, including how much of a ##### the bike is. Bring your climbing gears!

 

[Sean]

worrierking - really sorry to hear about your dad. I hope his recovery goes well.

 

[Sean]

Whats the best method to keep my nips from being rubbed off my chest during a long run? Never had a problem with this before and ####### that #### hurts.

 

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Whats the best method to keep my nips from being rubbed off my chest during a long run? Never had a problem with this before and ####### that #### hurts.

I know jack #### about this but I feel like I've read vaseline and/or bandaids, I think.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Whats the best method to keep my nips from being rubbed off my chest during a long run? Never had a problem with this before and ####### that #### hurts.

For me, its Body Glide for running and Band Aid super stuck mesh band aids for triathlon.

 

[Sand]

Whats the best method to keep my nips from being rubbed off my chest during a long run? Never had a problem with this before and ####### that #### hurts.

One of the disadvantages of tech shirts (which are otherwise awesome). I use these - fold over a corner so they are easy to remove after. They won't come off and are 100% effective in preventing chafing.

 

[2Young2BBald]

XC guys, I am in need of some quick intel. I am as HTFU as the next runner, but am a bit surprised that my son's meet is still on for this afternoon (unless its cancelled in the next hour). Its 94 out now and temps are supposed to climb. I'll check with the coaches there, but want to pack anything and everything they he may need. Are there "rules" about aiding a runner in race? I've seen teams passing out cups of water, handing off bottles, etc and spraying their runners with water. I just don't want him or the team DQ'd. I have wet towels on ice and plan to cover him with these after to bring down the body temp (might be a helicopter parent here, don't care and don't care if he is embarrassed (well, I do really care and will run this past him first, but if he is suffering, they are going on). Based on the course, if I hustle, I think I can get I can him him water at 4 to 5 spots. I get it, that is a 5K, 20 minutes worth of work, but if its legal, I want to help. I know,

 

[parasaurolophus]

Whats the best method to keep my nips from being rubbed off my chest during a long run? Never had a problem with this before and ####### that #### hurts.

For me, its Body Glide for running and Band Aid super stuck mesh band aids for triathlon.

I have been using body glide also, although I have forgotten it a couple times and still havent had any problems, so I guess I cant say for certain it works. I dont have too many long runs under my belt yet either, but at the rate I sweat my mid runs are probably equivalent to others long runs.

 

[MAC_32]

XC guys, I am in need of some quick intel. I am as HTFU as the next runner, but am a bit surprised that my son's meet is still on for this afternoon (unless its cancelled in the next hour). Its 94 out now and temps are supposed to climb. I'll check with the coaches there, but want to pack anything and everything they he may need. Are there "rules" about aiding a runner in race? I've seen teams passing out cups of water, handing off bottles, etc and spraying their runners with water. I just don't want him or the team DQ'd. I have wet towels on ice and plan to cover him with these after to bring down the body temp (might be a helicopter parent here, don't care and don't care if he is embarrassed (well, I do really care and will run this past him first, but if he is suffering, they are going on). Based on the course, if I hustle, I think I can get I can him him water at 4 to 5 spots. I get it, that is a 5K, 20 minutes worth of work, but if its legal, I want to help. I know,

I would be very surprised if you're allowed to aid in anyway. I never saw it in high school, never thought of it tbh.

If he's well hydrated before the race he should be fine. Yeah, that's pretty crazy hot but it takes an athlete a lot more time than 20 minutes to over heat.

 

[tri-man 47]

XC guys, I am in need of some quick intel. I am as HTFU as the next runner, but am a bit surprised that my son's meet is still on for this afternoon (unless its cancelled in the next hour). Its 94 out now and temps are supposed to climb. I'll check with the coaches there, but want to pack anything and everything they he may need. Are there "rules" about aiding a runner in race? I've seen teams passing out cups of water, handing off bottles, etc and spraying their runners with water. I just don't want him or the team DQ'd. I have wet towels on ice and plan to cover him with these after to bring down the body temp (might be a helicopter parent here, don't care and don't care if he is embarrassed (well, I do really care and will run this past him first, but if he is suffering, they are going on). Based on the course, if I hustle, I think I can get I can him him water at 4 to 5 spots. I get it, that is a 5K, 20 minutes worth of work, but if its legal, I want to help. I know,

My daughter had recently gotten me a package of "ice towels." I actually cut one in half to make it easier to hold and then carried it throughout my warm/humid marathon. Once wet, it stays amazing cold for a long time - easily enough for a 5K race (it didn't warm up that I noticed despite being held loosely in my hand and while wiping sweat). Sorry I can't remember the brand name.

 

[2Young2BBald]

XC guys, I am in need of some quick intel. I am as HTFU as the next runner, but am a bit surprised that my son's meet is still on for this afternoon (unless its cancelled in the next hour). Its 94 out now and temps are supposed to climb. I'll check with the coaches there, but want to pack anything and everything they he may need. Are there "rules" about aiding a runner in race? I've seen teams passing out cups of water, handing off bottles, etc and spraying their runners with water. I just don't want him or the team DQ'd. I have wet towels on ice and plan to cover him with these after to bring down the body temp (might be a helicopter parent here, don't care and don't care if he is embarrassed (well, I do really care and will run this past him first, but if he is suffering, they are going on). Based on the course, if I hustle, I think I can get I can him him water at 4 to 5 spots. I get it, that is a 5K, 20 minutes worth of work, but if its legal, I want to help. I know,

My daughter had recently gotten me a package of "ice towels." I actually cut one in half to make it easier to hold and then carried it throughout my warm/humid marathon. Once wet, it stays amazing cold for a long time - easily enough for a 5K race (it didn't warm up that I noticed despite being held loosely in my hand and while wiping sweat). Sorry I can't remember the brand name.

Good idea, heck, he can tuck it in the back of his shorts if needed too.

 

[The_Man]

My boy has his first race ever in 45 minutes. 92 degrees and 49 percent humidity. I might stick an icy towel in my pants just to watch this thing

 

[koby925]

Yeah you'd have to check the state or governing rules, but I doubt any kind of aid (even water) is allowed in a HS XC race.

Good luck to both Dads and let's hear reports.

 

[Sand]

XC guys, I am in need of some quick intel. I am as HTFU as the next runner, but am a bit surprised that my son's meet is still on for this afternoon (unless its cancelled in the next hour). Its 94 out now and temps are supposed to climb. I'll check with the coaches there, but want to pack anything and everything they he may need. Are there "rules" about aiding a runner in race? I've seen teams passing out cups of water, handing off bottles, etc and spraying their runners with water. I just don't want him or the team DQ'd. I have wet towels on ice and plan to cover him with these after to bring down the body temp (might be a helicopter parent here, don't care and don't care if he is embarrassed (well, I do really care and will run this past him first, but if he is suffering, they are going on). Based on the course, if I hustle, I think I can get I can him him water at 4 to 5 spots. I get it, that is a 5K, 20 minutes worth of work, but if its legal, I want to help. I know,

Pack a slush (to keep it a slush) in ice and have him drink it 5 minutes before gametime. In a short race if you can keep his core temp down he will have a substantial advantage.

 

[gruecd]

Whats the best method to keep my nips from being rubbed off my chest during a long run? Never had a problem with this before and ####### that #### hurts.

One of the disadvantages of tech shirts (which are otherwise awesome). I use these - fold over a corner so they are easy to remove after. They won't come off and are 100% effective in preventing chafing.

You don't sweat like I do. I guaran-#######-tee that they'd come off me. I use Nip-Guards (www.nipguards.com).

 

[Prince Myshkin]

effin achilles still hurts almost 10 days later. very frustrated...

 

[Sand]

Whats the best method to keep my nips from being rubbed off my chest during a long run? Never had a problem with this before and ####### that #### hurts.

One of the disadvantages of tech shirts (which are otherwise awesome). I use these - fold over a corner so they are easy to remove after. They won't come off and are 100% effective in preventing chafing.

You don't sweat like I do. I guaran-#######-tee that they'd come off me. I use Nip-Guards (www.nipguards.com).

Oh yeah, I do. I am easily over 1lb/mile sweat loss in summer conditions (I have taken plenty of data to plot suck index vs. sweat loss).

The spot bandages will not come off.

 

[The_Man]

Winner! 21:19, 4 seconds slower than his time trial last week, but pretty good considering the conditions. I told him the goal is to win the race, not run a certain time.

He ran really smart and took advantage of the huge home course advantage that his school's 2 absolutely brutal hills provides. Hung back in a pack with a few teammates behind 3 opponents for the first, flat mile. Moved to 3rd heading into first climb, passed #2 on the first hill, took the lead before the final climb and then gapped the guy on the final hill, letting him cruise to the finish.

I had to leave before varsity race, will be interested to see how his time compares. Very happy that he won by running smart as that will make him more likely to try it again in future races

 

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Winner! 21:19, 4 seconds slower than his time trial last week, but pretty good considering the conditions. I told him the goal is to win the race, not run a certain time.

He ran really smart and took advantage of the huge home course advantage that his school's 2 absolutely brutal hills provides. Hung back in a pack with a few teammates behind 3 opponents for the first, flat mile. Moved to 3rd heading into first climb, passed #2 on the first hill, took the lead before the final climb and then gapped the guy on the final hill, letting him cruise to the finish.

I had to leave before varsity race, will be interested to see how his time compares. Very happy that he won by running smart as that will make him more likely to try it again in future races

 

[PatriotJohn]

I have posted in here a few times and am looking for some sage advice:

I have developed an inflamed bursa sac inside my left heel last Monday due to overusage combined with bowling. I have been religious in ramping up my milage in preparation for the AF Half Marathon on the 21st. Treating with Ice, Motrin and for now rest. I did walk 6 miles on Saturday with no worsening, but I dont think it helped the healing any.

My question(s) to those who have had this or are familiar with this condition is this:

1) Is it possible for this to heal sufficiently in the next 12 days with no exercise and constant treatment, or at least to the point where I can run (with motrin) and finish depending on pain tollerance?

2) Will cycling (for cardio) or elliptical cause further irritation or hinder healing (keeping heel in same condition)? I have a Schwinn Airdyne, so i can put my feet on the pegs and use my arms for cardio as a last result, even though my legs will not get any exercise.

TIA to anyone who may be able to shed some light on this. I really want to run in this but at the same time, I do not want to do any chronic damage.

I bought an Active Ankle brace and it has made a world of difference just in 24 hours along with icing and motrin. I will wear the brace thru the weekend and if I am completely pain free, I will try a short run on Tuesday.

 

[FUBAR]

Looking forward to it getting cooler. Suck index 156 for my after work 11.

Last weeks run was faster and felt awesome, this was a struggle.

 

[SteveC702]

Winner! 21:19, 4 seconds slower than his time trial last week, but pretty good considering the conditions. I told him the goal is to win the race, not run a certain time.

He ran really smart and took advantage of the huge home course advantage that his school's 2 absolutely brutal hills provides. Hung back in a pack with a few teammates behind 3 opponents for the first, flat mile. Moved to 3rd heading into first climb, passed #2 on the first hill, took the lead before the final climb and then gapped the guy on the final hill, letting him cruise to the finish.

I had to leave before varsity race, will be interested to see how his time compares. Very happy that he won by running smart as that will make him more likely to try it again in future races

 

[FUBAR]

Winner! 21:19, 4 seconds slower than his time trial last week, but pretty good considering the conditions. I told him the goal is to win the race, not run a certain time.

He ran really smart and took advantage of the huge home course advantage that his school's 2 absolutely brutal hills provides. Hung back in a pack with a few teammates behind 3 opponents for the first, flat mile. Moved to 3rd heading into first climb, passed #2 on the first hill, took the lead before the final climb and then gapped the guy on the final hill, letting him cruise to the finish.

I had to leave before varsity race, will be interested to see how his time compares. Very happy that he won by running smart as that will make him more likely to try it again in future races

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