Ran a 10k in June (6 Viewers)

[tri-man 47]

Have you tried the running shorts that come with built-in jocks/banana-hammocks?

These are kind of like what I've been using lately. The inner layer is a lightweight, breathable type of spandex (compression short) and the outer layer is the standard loose fitting running short. Each layer is about the same length (I've tried to find a good picture, but alas.) The ones I have are longer - maybe a few inches above the knee. It cuts out the friction while allowing me some measure of dignity. And I have to say, you youngsters are making it sound like an infirmary around here!

 

[El Floppo]

Have you tried the running shorts that come with built-in jocks/banana-hammocks?

These are kind of like what I've been using lately. The inner layer is a lightweight, breathable type of spandex (compression short) and the outer layer is the standard loose fitting running short. Each layer is about the same length (I've tried to find a good picture, but alas.) The ones I have are longer - maybe a few inches above the knee. It cuts out the friction while allowing me some measure of dignity. And I have to say, you youngsters are making it sound like an infirmary around here!

Doesn't sound like what I'm wearing. I'm talking about the speedo sized jock under regular length running shorts. I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Chaka]

It's funny how your mindset changes depending on the company you are in.

When I first went to Finland (lived there for two years) everyone insisted that I must use the sauna, it's a country of 5.3 million people and 3.3 million saunas -- no kidding (sauna is to the Finns what Spice is to Arrakeens ). At first I was the only guy in the sauna wearing my bathing suit, naked is the norm, and I'll tell you what I felt pretty darned uncomfortable.

I am pretty happy with the compression-shorts-as-underwear thing I have going now. It's completely comfortable and the material breathes so much better than traditional cycling shorts, and is a darned sight better than regular underwear. I haven't tried the built in models but I will look into them the next time I need a new pair.

I've been dying to get to Finland. One of my wife's girlfriends is Finnish (? a Fin?) and we've been trying to get there, at her invitation for August. Finnish women... . She used to date Mika Hakkinen (sp. the race car driver)... but I have a feeling, like with Bjork in Iceland, everybody has something to do with him.I'll have to try the compression things some time, although I'm happy enough in my running shorts. Don't know if you've tried Tri shorts- minimal padding and meant for running. Running in biking shorts is pretty grim.

I am pretty sure 70% of the Finnish female population dated Mika Hakkinen at one point or another. August is definitely the time to go because it is the warmest month of the year and the warmer it gets the less the Finns wear. Summer solstice (Jouhannes) is another great time if you haven't experienced the midnight sun it is a wild experience.

 

[wraith5]

(sauna is to the Finns what Spice is to Arrakeens )

damnit. I wish I had enough culture to understand what this means. I bet it is funny.

You were on a roll today... The picture made me laugh out loud. Right before I cursed your name, of course.

 

[El Floppo]

Ran 23:00 today... it was El Suck in a massive way.

 

[Schmegma]

I'm going to run tomorrow for the first time since last Tuesday when I had to stop after about 2 miles due to severe left knee pain. It still hurts even after a week of ice, ibuprofen, etc. Hopefully it will quit raining so I can do the run outside and get a true feel for whether or not there's a problem.

What did the doc say? Good luck tomorrow- my knee problems are returning too. And of course, no trip to the doc for me either... yet.

If it still hurts bad when I run tomorrow I will have to go to the doctor. Man I hope it doesn't hurt!

UPDATE: I did a 2.5 mile easy run tonight (11:00 pace), and was completely pain free. The left knee felt a little heavy or tight for the last half mile or so, but nothing to be concerned about. I am convinced it has to do with that damn treadmill. Tonight was only my 2nd run outside this season. I will be forcing myself to run outside from this point forward no matter what the temperature is. I just run so much better and more naturally outside that it's foolish for me to even step on the treadmill. My Thursday run is a 4 mile tempo run plus a 1 mile warm up and 1 mile cool down, so that will be the next hurdle. I'm very hopeful after today, so we'll see what happens.

 

[Schmegma]

My Thursday run is a 4 mile tempo run plus a 1 mile warm up and 1 mile cool down, so that will be the next hurdle. I'm very hopeful after today, so we'll see what happens.

Good luck, Schmegma! Hope it goes well. I'm countin' on ya for May!Looks like we're back to some cold weather in the upper midwest.

I'll be there in may, but remember, I'm only running the half and I'm sure I'm much slower than you are! I'm debating a time goal of somewhere between 2:15 and 2:25. Of course, I will probably narrow it down to two goals - START and FINISH.

 

[wraith5]

I'm going to run tomorrow for the first time since last Tuesday when I had to stop after about 2 miles due to severe left knee pain. It still hurts even after a week of ice, ibuprofen, etc. Hopefully it will quit raining so I can do the run outside and get a true feel for whether or not there's a problem.

What did the doc say? Good luck tomorrow- my knee problems are returning too. And of course, no trip to the doc for me either... yet.

If it still hurts bad when I run tomorrow I will have to go to the doctor. Man I hope it doesn't hurt!

UPDATE: I did a 2.5 mile easy run tonight (11:00 pace), and was completely pain free. The left knee felt a little heavy or tight for the last half mile or so, but nothing to be concerned about. I am convinced it has to do with that damn treadmill. Tonight was only my 2nd run outside this season. I will be forcing myself to run outside from this point forward no matter what the temperature is. I just run so much better and more naturally outside that it's foolish for me to even step on the treadmill. My Thursday run is a 4 mile tempo run plus a 1 mile warm up and 1 mile cool down, so that will be the next hurdle. I'm very hopeful after today, so we'll see what happens.

Glad the run went well. Good luck Thurs!

I just signed up for a 10 miler in Chicago on Saturday August 26 - The Soldier Field 10. It's a cool race that ends on the actual field. I did it last year but it was brutally humid... hopefully this year will go better!

 

[El Floppo]

My Thursday run is a 4 mile tempo run plus a 1 mile warm up and 1 mile cool down, so that will be the next hurdle. I'm very hopeful after today, so we'll see what happens.

Good luck, Schmegma! Hope it goes well. I'm countin' on ya for May!Looks like we're back to some cold weather in the upper midwest.

That means we're getting it in NYC a day or two later. Damn you upper midwesterners and your weather.

 

[wraith5]

I did 35 minutes on the treadmill this morning that totally kicked my ###:

Two incline peaks - about 1/3 and 2/3 of the way though. rating was "7" - not sure the incline %

Speed peak (about 7:20 pace) was in the middle.

So you're running uphill, then as the incline gets easier the speed peaks out, and as you slow down the incline gets harder again. Ugh.

Day 8 of push-ups and sit-ups. Already seeing an impact.

 

[Schmegma]

Today was the first day in over a week that I woke up without any left knee pain, so things are certainly improving.

Does anybody have any experience with knee bands such as this one from Mueller?

 

[El Floppo]

Today was the first day in over a week that I woke up without any left knee pain, so things are certainly improving.

Does anybody have any experience with knee bands such as this one from Mueller?

That is good news!Nice av, btw.

 

[GStrot]

I'm going to run tomorrow for the first time since last Tuesday when I had to stop after about 2 miles due to severe left knee pain. It still hurts even after a week of ice, ibuprofen, etc. Hopefully it will quit raining so I can do the run outside and get a true feel for whether or not there's a problem.

What did the doc say? Good luck tomorrow- my knee problems are returning too. And of course, no trip to the doc for me either... yet.

If it still hurts bad when I run tomorrow I will have to go to the doctor. Man I hope it doesn't hurt!

UPDATE: I did a 2.5 mile easy run tonight (11:00 pace), and was completely pain free. The left knee felt a little heavy or tight for the last half mile or so, but nothing to be concerned about. I am convinced it has to do with that damn treadmill. Tonight was only my 2nd run outside this season. I will be forcing myself to run outside from this point forward no matter what the temperature is. I just run so much better and more naturally outside that it's foolish for me to even step on the treadmill. My Thursday run is a 4 mile tempo run plus a 1 mile warm up and 1 mile cool down, so that will be the next hurdle. I'm very hopeful after today, so we'll see what happens.

 

[GStrot]

Ran 23:00 today... it was El Suck in a massive way.

to the first part to the second part

 

[GStrot]

I'm going to run tomorrow for the first time since last Tuesday when I had to stop after about 2 miles due to severe left knee pain. It still hurts even after a week of ice, ibuprofen, etc. Hopefully it will quit raining so I can do the run outside and get a true feel for whether or not there's a problem.

What did the doc say? Good luck tomorrow- my knee problems are returning too. And of course, no trip to the doc for me either... yet.

If it still hurts bad when I run tomorrow I will have to go to the doctor. Man I hope it doesn't hurt!

UPDATE: I did a 2.5 mile easy run tonight (11:00 pace), and was completely pain free. The left knee felt a little heavy or tight for the last half mile or so, but nothing to be concerned about. I am convinced it has to do with that damn treadmill. Tonight was only my 2nd run outside this season. I will be forcing myself to run outside from this point forward no matter what the temperature is. I just run so much better and more naturally outside that it's foolish for me to even step on the treadmill. My Thursday run is a 4 mile tempo run plus a 1 mile warm up and 1 mile cool down, so that will be the next hurdle. I'm very hopeful after today, so we'll see what happens.

Glad the run went well. Good luck Thurs!

I just signed up for a 10 miler in Chicago on Saturday August 26 - The Soldier Field 10. It's a cool race that ends on the actual field. I did it last year but it was brutally humid... hopefully this year will go better!

hmmm. That may keep my training going two more months.

 

[GStrot]

Today was the first day in over a week that I woke up without any left knee pain, so things are certainly improving.

Does anybody have any experience with knee bands such as this one from Mueller?

 

[tri-man 47]

I'll be there in may, but remember, I'm only running the half and I'm sure I'm much slower than you are! I'm debating a time goal of somewhere between 2:15 and 2:25. Of course, I will probably narrow it down to two goals - START and FINISH.

Yeah, I remember you're doing the half. (But I wasn't going to let that technicality stop me from encouraging you to keep at it!) I find it a bit hard to set goals. All of my long runs are on tired legs (and it's getting to the point that every run is on tired legs!). I do some pace runs of up to 10 miles, but other than using charts, it's hard to know how that will translate to the marathon time. Also, I don't want to push so hard as to mess up my legs for several weeks, given ongoing triathlon commitments. So all in all, I may (should?) also have the basic goal of Start and Finish. I expect to finish under 4 hours, so if I'm smart (always questionable), I'll just take off at a comfortable pace and let it flow ...check the pace at five miles or so, and then gauge things from there. Only my ego benefits by pushing hard to finish higher up in my age bracket.

 

[pigskinliquors]

UPDATE: I tried the "ice-bath" last night and my quads still hurt pretty bad. They did have temporary relief, and I went to bed thinking that I'd wake up feeling refreshed. Not so much. I'm "off" today from working out, but have a brick scheduled for tomorrow (20m bike, 4m run). I'm trying to determine if the workout could damage my legs further. I've googled the heck out of "sore quads", etc. but half of what I've read says to work through the pain, while the other half says to "rest." I'm leaning toward just doing 15 and 3; and taking it easy, but haven't decided yet. Any suggestions?

Also: the whole ice-bath thing isn't too bad once you get the "boys" into the water. Getting them in is highly traumatic!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Today was the first day in over a week that I woke up without any left knee pain, so things are certainly improving.

Does anybody have any experience with knee bands such as this one from Mueller?

I've never tried one of those bands, but I have a sleeve for my knee that I used to wear on occasion when I had knee pain. It wouldn't have worked well if I wanted to run in it (not really flexible enough to run comfortably), but it worked if I was just wearing it under jeans or something.I haven't had any serious knee pain in years though, so I haven't worn anything recently.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I do most of my runs on an indoor track, and I recently stumbled onto this site that calculates the exact distance you're running in each lane. Pretty cool. I was surprised at how big a difference there is between lane 1 and lanes 3 and 4 on my little 200m track.

It looks like I will have to do my 18-miler indoors this weekend, as it is supposed to be very windy. That sucks, but at least I know how far 18 miles *actually* is on this track. (About 17 "track miles").

 

[pigskinliquors]

UPDATE: I tried the "ice-bath" last night and my quads still hurt pretty bad. They did have temporary relief, and I went to bed thinking that I'd wake up feeling refreshed. Not so much. I'm "off" today from working out, but have a brick scheduled for tomorrow (20m bike, 4m run). I'm trying to determine if the workout could damage my legs further. I've googled the heck out of "sore quads", etc. but half of what I've read says to work through the pain, while the other half says to "rest." I'm leaning toward just doing 15 and 3; and taking it easy, but haven't decided yet. Any suggestions?Also: the whole ice-bath thing isn't too bad once you get the "boys" into the water. Getting them in is highly traumatic!

Just cutting mileage on the brick probably won't accomplish anything. Can you use the day for a light ride and/or some stretching to loosen up the muscles without straining them further? A brick sounds like it would be too much stress. Maybe swim instead and push back the brick. A swim shouldn't hurt the quads.I hear you about the "boys." Of course, I just swing the "big boy" over the edge of the tub to keep him warm and dry.

A light ride is certainly also an option (and probably a smart one!). I Yoga on my off days (= today), which will hopefully loosen it up a bit. My ego/heart wants me to do the brick, but my head is saying it's foolish. It's a short sprint that I'm training for, but I haven't done a brick in so long that I was getting excited about it. A smarter option would probably be to stretch (Yoga) tonight, light ride tomorrow, swim on Friday, then brick on Saturday (or just run on Saturday then bike on Sunday, and skip this brick altogether). With our pool closed over the weekend, this might not be too bad of an option, as my hard swim is generally on Saturdays.

 

[culdeus]

UPDATE: I tried the "ice-bath" last night and my quads still hurt pretty bad. They did have temporary relief, and I went to bed thinking that I'd wake up feeling refreshed. Not so much. I'm "off" today from working out, but have a brick scheduled for tomorrow (20m bike, 4m run). I'm trying to determine if the workout could damage my legs further. I've googled the heck out of "sore quads", etc. but half of what I've read says to work through the pain, while the other half says to "rest." I'm leaning toward just doing 15 and 3; and taking it easy, but haven't decided yet. Any suggestions?Also: the whole ice-bath thing isn't too bad once you get the "boys" into the water. Getting them in is highly traumatic!

Suck it up and ride son.

 

[pigskinliquors]

UPDATE: I tried the "ice-bath" last night and my quads still hurt pretty bad. They did have temporary relief, and I went to bed thinking that I'd wake up feeling refreshed. Not so much. I'm "off" today from working out, but have a brick scheduled for tomorrow (20m bike, 4m run). I'm trying to determine if the workout could damage my legs further. I've googled the heck out of "sore quads", etc. but half of what I've read says to work through the pain, while the other half says to "rest." I'm leaning toward just doing 15 and 3; and taking it easy, but haven't decided yet. Any suggestions?Also: the whole ice-bath thing isn't too bad once you get the "boys" into the water. Getting them in is highly traumatic!

Suck it up and ride son.

I know I'm riding tomorrow. Just haven't figured out if I'm going to run afterward

 

[wraith5]

UPDATE: I tried the "ice-bath" last night and my quads still hurt pretty bad. They did have temporary relief, and I went to bed thinking that I'd wake up feeling refreshed. Not so much. I'm "off" today from working out, but have a brick scheduled for tomorrow (20m bike, 4m run). I'm trying to determine if the workout could damage my legs further. I've googled the heck out of "sore quads", etc. but half of what I've read says to work through the pain, while the other half says to "rest." I'm leaning toward just doing 15 and 3; and taking it easy, but haven't decided yet. Any suggestions?

Also: the whole ice-bath thing isn't too bad once you get the "boys" into the water. Getting them in is highly traumatic!

Suck it up and ride run son.

edited for accuracy. I can't get my mind around this "ice bath" concept. I have a jacuzzi bath that I sit in for about 20 minutes after my long runs. Maybe I'm doing something "wrong," but it's a #### of a lot more comfortable than sitting in ice water!!

 

[Chaka]

UPDATE: I tried the "ice-bath" last night and my quads still hurt pretty bad. They did have temporary relief, and I went to bed thinking that I'd wake up feeling refreshed. Not so much. I'm "off" today from working out, but have a brick scheduled for tomorrow (20m bike, 4m run). I'm trying to determine if the workout could damage my legs further. I've googled the heck out of "sore quads", etc. but half of what I've read says to work through the pain, while the other half says to "rest." I'm leaning toward just doing 15 and 3; and taking it easy, but haven't decided yet. Any suggestions?Also: the whole ice-bath thing isn't too bad once you get the "boys" into the water. Getting them in is highly traumatic!

If you have access to a sauna I strongly recommend you give it a try. 15-20 minutes in the sauna post-run, easier said then done, but I truly believe it helps my post workout recovery massively.

 

[GStrot]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=312123

5k in Racine, WI on 4/28. In case you missed it.

 

[El Floppo]

UPDATE: I tried the "ice-bath" last night and my quads still hurt pretty bad. They did have temporary relief, and I went to bed thinking that I'd wake up feeling refreshed. Not so much. I'm "off" today from working out, but have a brick scheduled for tomorrow (20m bike, 4m run). I'm trying to determine if the workout could damage my legs further. I've googled the heck out of "sore quads", etc. but half of what I've read says to work through the pain, while the other half says to "rest." I'm leaning toward just doing 15 and 3; and taking it easy, but haven't decided yet. Any suggestions?Also: the whole ice-bath thing isn't too bad once you get the "boys" into the water. Getting them in is highly traumatic!

Suck it up and ride son.

Mr. Tough-guy over there...

 

[El Floppo]

UPDATE: I tried the "ice-bath" last night and my quads still hurt pretty bad. They did have temporary relief, and I went to bed thinking that I'd wake up feeling refreshed. Not so much. I'm "off" today from working out, but have a brick scheduled for tomorrow (20m bike, 4m run). I'm trying to determine if the workout could damage my legs further. I've googled the heck out of "sore quads", etc. but half of what I've read says to work through the pain, while the other half says to "rest." I'm leaning toward just doing 15 and 3; and taking it easy, but haven't decided yet. Any suggestions?Also: the whole ice-bath thing isn't too bad once you get the "boys" into the water. Getting them in is highly traumatic!

Just cutting mileage on the brick probably won't accomplish anything. Can you use the day for a light ride and/or some stretching to loosen up the muscles without straining them further? A brick sounds like it would be too much stress. Maybe swim instead and push back the brick. A swim shouldn't hurt the quads.I hear you about the "boys." Of course, I just swing the "big boy" over the edge of the tub to keep him warm and dry.

A light ride is certainly also an option (and probably a smart one!). I Yoga on my off days (= today), which will hopefully loosen it up a bit. My ego/heart wants me to do the brick, but my head is saying it's foolish. It's a short sprint that I'm training for, but I haven't done a brick in so long that I was getting excited about it. A smarter option would probably be to stretch (Yoga) tonight, light ride tomorrow, swim on Friday, then brick on Saturday (or just run on Saturday then bike on Sunday, and skip this brick altogether). With our pool closed over the weekend, this might not be too bad of an option, as my hard swim is generally on Saturdays.

Sore quads- unless you've injured them, which I doubt considering it's both (right?), I think this is just a product of tired, heavy legs- probably from over-training or pushing them more than they're ready for right now.Question- are you stretching after bike/runs? This, along with the icebaths will make a big difference, if you're not already.Brick- I think the Yoga tonight, light ride tomorrw, swim Friday optino is the best option. You can check your legs Fridady night- if they're still dead, do a ride on Sat and a run on Sun (at least this will mirror the bike/run in a brick, even if it's a day later).

 

[El Floppo]

UPDATE: I tried the "ice-bath" last night and my quads still hurt pretty bad. They did have temporary relief, and I went to bed thinking that I'd wake up feeling refreshed. Not so much. I'm "off" today from working out, but have a brick scheduled for tomorrow (20m bike, 4m run). I'm trying to determine if the workout could damage my legs further. I've googled the heck out of "sore quads", etc. but half of what I've read says to work through the pain, while the other half says to "rest." I'm leaning toward just doing 15 and 3; and taking it easy, but haven't decided yet. Any suggestions?

Also: the whole ice-bath thing isn't too bad once you get the "boys" into the water. Getting them in is highly traumatic!

Suck it up and ride run son.

edited for accuracy. I can't get my mind around this "ice bath" concept. I have a jacuzzi bath that I sit in for about 20 minutes after my long runs. Maybe I'm doing something "wrong," but it's a #### of a lot more comfortable than sitting in ice water!!

you and me both. Even cold water baths (minus the ice) helps, but I'm too into being comfortable after my workouts to suck it up.

 

[El Floppo]

Ran 23:00 today... it was El Suck in a massive way.

to the first part to the second part

I'm going to write that one up to having gotten to sleep at around 5:00am. I forgot how crappy it is to workout without a proper sleep.I went for a swim today... whoa. Didn't have anything scheduled, just wanted to- ahem- get my feet wet again. Figured I'd just do laps, stopping when I needed. I think I lasted somewhere less than 15 minutes- put in maybe 500 yards.

I was spent... shoulders and lats tight, breathing useless. A complete mess. But it still felt really good to get it done. Makes me think my tri days aren't completely behind me. Now I just have to get my ### back on my bike.... bleh. Maybe Thusday, if it isn't too wet.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=312123

5k in Racine, WI on 4/28. In case you missed it.

Sorry, I'll be busy that day in Nashville. Say hi to my sister-in-law.Did 5k tonight. Like Monday, it was good with no I-T flare-up. I fartlek'd it this time. 1/2mile at 9:30-10 pace, 1/4mile at under 7 pace, 1/2 at 10, 1/4 at 7, 1/2 at 10, one more 1/4 at 7, and then bring it home at 10. The 2nd fast leg started eating me up, so I had to walk some of the following 1/2, and I had to walk a whole 1/4 after the 3rd fast leg. Nice to know I have sub-7s in the tank, now I just have to string 26.2 of 'em together, instead of just a 1/4 at a time! lol

 

[tri-man 47]

Did 5k tonight. Like Monday, it was good with no I-T flare-up. :( I fartlek'd it this time. 1/2mile at 9:30-10 pace, 1/4mile at under 7 pace, 1/2 at 10, 1/4 at 7, 1/2 at 10, one more 1/4 at 7, and then bring it home at 10. The 2nd fast leg started eating me up, so I had to walk some of the following 1/2, and I had to walk a whole 1/4 after the 3rd fast leg. Nice to know I have sub-7s in the tank, now I just have to string 26.2 of 'em together, instead of just a 1/4 at a time! lol

You clocked each segment of a fartlek run? lol

 

[GStrot]

Ran 23:00 today... it was El Suck in a massive way.

to the first part to the second part

I'm going to write that one up to having gotten to sleep at around 5:00am. I forgot how crappy it is to workout without a proper sleep.I went for a swim today... whoa. Didn't have anything scheduled, just wanted to- ahem- get my feet wet again. Figured I'd just do laps, stopping when I needed. I think I lasted somewhere less than 15 minutes- put in maybe 500 yards.

I was spent... shoulders and lats tight, breathing useless. A complete mess. But it still felt really good to get it done. Makes me think my tri days aren't completely behind me. Now I just have to get my ### back on my bike.... bleh. Maybe Thusday, if it isn't too wet.

nice job. half the battle is just taking the first step. (I know, not exactly motivational poster material (maybe more like poorly translated fortune cookie) but you get the idea.)

 

[RoarinSonoran]

You clocked each segment of a fartlek run? lol

Nah, I run with a Garmin. It shows my current pace, and how far I've gone. I'd look at it every so often, and note to myself "yeah that's about a 10 pace" on the slow legs, then "HOLY CRAP I'M UNDER A 7 PACE!!!" on the fast legs. I was just ballparking the numbers. I can download it and come up with a precise number if you like.

 

[El Floppo]

Ran 23:00 today... it was El Suck in a massive way.

to the first part to the second part

I'm going to write that one up to having gotten to sleep at around 5:00am. I forgot how crappy it is to workout without a proper sleep.I went for a swim today... whoa. Didn't have anything scheduled, just wanted to- ahem- get my feet wet again. Figured I'd just do laps, stopping when I needed. I think I lasted somewhere less than 15 minutes- put in maybe 500 yards.

I was spent... shoulders and lats tight, breathing useless. A complete mess. But it still felt really good to get it done. Makes me think my tri days aren't completely behind me. Now I just have to get my ### back on my bike.... bleh. Maybe Thusday, if it isn't too wet.

nice job. half the battle is just taking the first step. (I know, not exactly motivational poster material (maybe more like poorly translated fortune cookie) but you get the idea.)

Thanks, gb.My favorite is, "No pain, no pain".

 

[El Floppo]

You clocked each segment of a fartlek run? lol

Nah, I run with a Garmin. It shows my current pace, and how far I've gone. I'd look at it every so often, and note to myself "yeah that's about a 10 pace" on the slow legs, then "HOLY CRAP I'M UNDER A 7 PACE!!!" on the fast legs. I was just ballparking the numbers. I can download it and come up with a precise number if you like.

I have one of those Polar foot pod things... was thinking about throwing it on for S&Gs, but I can't see past the belly-blubber to do it.

 

[tri-man 47]

You clocked each segment of a fartlek run? lol

Nah, I run with a Garmin. It shows my current pace, and how far I've gone. I'd look at it every so often, and note to myself "yeah that's about a 10 pace" on the slow legs, then "HOLY CRAP I'M UNDER A 7 PACE!!!" on the fast legs. I was just ballparking the numbers. I can download it and come up with a precise number if you like.

No, that's OK. I don't want to encourage such behavior.

 

[Schmegma]

You clocked each segment of a fartlek run? lol

Nah, I run with a Garmin. It shows my current pace, and how far I've gone. I'd look at it every so often, and note to myself "yeah that's about a 10 pace" on the slow legs, then "HOLY CRAP I'M UNDER A 7 PACE!!!" on the fast legs. I was just ballparking the numbers. I can download it and come up with a precise number if you like.

I have one of those Polar foot pod things... was thinking about throwing it on for S&Gs, but I can't see past the belly-blubber to do it.

I have a Polar HRM with a footpod too, and I love it. It shows my current pace, how far I've run, etc. I'm surprised, however, that it doesn't show my cadence, nor is that information available in the reports it generates. I use music for my cadence now, and I like to run at 160-164 BPM. I might be able to ditch the music if the watch would show me that information. Nah. That's not true. I would go crazy running without my tunes.

[hijack]

Hey... Quick question for you guys unrelated to running. I'm considering a FBG name change. Any suggestions, or anybody want to try to talk me out of it? A couple of gutter minded individuals pointed out that it has a meaning other than what I intended, so I thought maybe I should consider a new identity.

[/hijack]

 

[El Floppo]

You clocked each segment of a fartlek run? lol

Nah, I run with a Garmin. It shows my current pace, and how far I've gone. I'd look at it every so often, and note to myself "yeah that's about a 10 pace" on the slow legs, then "HOLY CRAP I'M UNDER A 7 PACE!!!" on the fast legs. I was just ballparking the numbers. I can download it and come up with a precise number if you like.

I have one of those Polar foot pod things... was thinking about throwing it on for S&Gs, but I can't see past the belly-blubber to do it.

I have a Polar HRM with a footpod too, and I love it. It shows my current pace, how far I've run, etc. I'm surprised, however, that it doesn't show my cadence, nor is that information available in the reports it generates. I use music for my cadence now, and I like to run at 160-164 BPM. I might be able to ditch the music if the watch would show me that information. Nah. That's not true. I would go crazy running without my tunes.

[hijack]

Hey... Quick question for you guys unrelated to running. I'm considering a FBG name change. Any suggestions, or anybody want to try to talk me out of it? A couple of gutter minded individuals pointed out that it has a meaning other than what I intended, so I thought maybe I should consider a new identity.

[/hijack]

I always liked your name. Keep it.####-crud never loses it's humor.

 

[pigskinliquors]

UPDATE: I tried the "ice-bath" last night and my quads still hurt pretty bad. They did have temporary relief, and I went to bed thinking that I'd wake up feeling refreshed. Not so much. I'm "off" today from working out, but have a brick scheduled for tomorrow (20m bike, 4m run). I'm trying to determine if the workout could damage my legs further. I've googled the heck out of "sore quads", etc. but half of what I've read says to work through the pain, while the other half says to "rest." I'm leaning toward just doing 15 and 3; and taking it easy, but haven't decided yet. Any suggestions?Also: the whole ice-bath thing isn't too bad once you get the "boys" into the water. Getting them in is highly traumatic!

Just cutting mileage on the brick probably won't accomplish anything. Can you use the day for a light ride and/or some stretching to loosen up the muscles without straining them further? A brick sounds like it would be too much stress. Maybe swim instead and push back the brick. A swim shouldn't hurt the quads.I hear you about the "boys." Of course, I just swing the "big boy" over the edge of the tub to keep him warm and dry.

A light ride is certainly also an option (and probably a smart one!). I Yoga on my off days (= today), which will hopefully loosen it up a bit. My ego/heart wants me to do the brick, but my head is saying it's foolish. It's a short sprint that I'm training for, but I haven't done a brick in so long that I was getting excited about it. A smarter option would probably be to stretch (Yoga) tonight, light ride tomorrow, swim on Friday, then brick on Saturday (or just run on Saturday then bike on Sunday, and skip this brick altogether). With our pool closed over the weekend, this might not be too bad of an option, as my hard swim is generally on Saturdays.

Sore quads- unless you've injured them, which I doubt considering it's both (right?), I think this is just a product of tired, heavy legs- probably from over-training or pushing them more than they're ready for right now.Question- are you stretching after bike/runs? This, along with the icebaths will make a big difference, if you're not already.Brick- I think the Yoga tonight, light ride tomorrw, swim Friday optino is the best option. You can check your legs Fridady night- if they're still dead, do a ride on Sat and a run on Sun (at least this will mirror the bike/run in a brick, even if it's a day later).

UPDATE: I woke up and the quads felt decent, not great. I went ahead and did a brick: 17m bike, 3 mile run. It was extremely windy so my bike time was a bit slow (20.8 mph), but I was pleased with my run (7:38 pace), as I certainly had plenty left in the tank. As always, I stretched heavily afterwards (I also stretch prior), and my legs felt phenomenal. They are a little sore right now, but I certainly don't think I inflicted any additional damage. I can now make tomorrow a swim day, with no flippers (to rest my legs), and can do a slow run on Saturday, and a long bike on Sunday. If all goes well, my legs will hopefully be fully back for fartleks on Monday morning. If not, I'll skip speed work altogether for a week. EF: fyi; I'm fairly certain I hurt my quads by pulling weeds all afternoon (3 straight hours) after a run and swim last Saturday. I couldn't stop sweating once I was done, and certainly was too dehydrated for my own good. I added to the idiocy by consuming more than my share of beer that evening

 

[GStrot]

[hijack]

Hey... Quick question for you guys unrelated to running. I'm considering a FBG name change. Any suggestions, or anybody want to try to talk me out of it? A couple of gutter minded individuals pointed out that it has a meaning other than what I intended, so I thought maybe I should consider a new identity.

[/hijack]

I don't think you need to do it. You have been that same name and it has meant the same thing since you started here. I would keep it. It is you. Too hard to build up the board cred and identity.Reminds me of a story. I went to school with a girl whose last name was a derogatory term for a woman of loose morals but spelled slightly differently. For purposes of this discussoin I will use "whore" spelled "Hoare". She did not realize what her last name meant until she was told in college. So, you would sit in class on the first day and roll call would go like this...

Teacher: Matthew Harrison

Harrison: Here

Teacher: Meghan ... uh ... Hare

Hoar: Whore

Class: *snicker*

Teacher: Hare? (as in please god tell me you don't pronounce your last name "whore")

Hoar: Whore

Class: *snicker*

Teacher: Ok, whore.

Class: *snicker*

You are schmegma. F the world and their definition.

 

[GStrot]

UPDATE: I tried the "ice-bath" last night and my quads still hurt pretty bad. They did have temporary relief, and I went to bed thinking that I'd wake up feeling refreshed. Not so much. I'm "off" today from working out, but have a brick scheduled for tomorrow (20m bike, 4m run). I'm trying to determine if the workout could damage my legs further. I've googled the heck out of "sore quads", etc. but half of what I've read says to work through the pain, while the other half says to "rest." I'm leaning toward just doing 15 and 3; and taking it easy, but haven't decided yet. Any suggestions?Also: the whole ice-bath thing isn't too bad once you get the "boys" into the water. Getting them in is highly traumatic!

Just cutting mileage on the brick probably won't accomplish anything. Can you use the day for a light ride and/or some stretching to loosen up the muscles without straining them further? A brick sounds like it would be too much stress. Maybe swim instead and push back the brick. A swim shouldn't hurt the quads.I hear you about the "boys." Of course, I just swing the "big boy" over the edge of the tub to keep him warm and dry.

A light ride is certainly also an option (and probably a smart one!). I Yoga on my off days (= today), which will hopefully loosen it up a bit. My ego/heart wants me to do the brick, but my head is saying it's foolish. It's a short sprint that I'm training for, but I haven't done a brick in so long that I was getting excited about it. A smarter option would probably be to stretch (Yoga) tonight, light ride tomorrow, swim on Friday, then brick on Saturday (or just run on Saturday then bike on Sunday, and skip this brick altogether). With our pool closed over the weekend, this might not be too bad of an option, as my hard swim is generally on Saturdays.

Sore quads- unless you've injured them, which I doubt considering it's both (right?), I think this is just a product of tired, heavy legs- probably from over-training or pushing them more than they're ready for right now.Question- are you stretching after bike/runs? This, along with the icebaths will make a big difference, if you're not already.Brick- I think the Yoga tonight, light ride tomorrw, swim Friday optino is the best option. You can check your legs Fridady night- if they're still dead, do a ride on Sat and a run on Sun (at least this will mirror the bike/run in a brick, even if it's a day later).

UPDATE: I woke up and the quads felt decent, not great. I went ahead and did a brick: 17m bike, 3 mile run. It was extremely windy so my bike time was a bit slow (20.8 mph), but I was pleased with my run (7:38 pace), as I certainly had plenty left in the tank. As always, I stretched heavily afterwards (I also stretch prior), and my legs felt phenomenal. They are a little sore right now, but I certainly don't think I inflicted any additional damage. I can now make tomorrow a swim day, with no flippers (to rest my legs), and can do a slow run on Saturday, and a long bike on Sunday. If all goes well, my legs will hopefully be fully back for fartleks on Monday morning. If not, I'll skip speed work altogether for a week. EF: fyi; I'm fairly certain I hurt my quads by pulling weeds all afternoon (3 straight hours) after a run and swim last Saturday. I couldn't stop sweating once I was done, and certainly was too dehydrated for my own good. I added to the idiocy by consuming more than my share of beer that evening

glad you have the problem solved and that it is not something more serious! Make sure you tell the wife - no more weed pulling for you!Funny thing about that story a few months ago, bricks and fartleks would have been . Now, they make perfect sense. Scary.

 

[pigskinliquors]

[hijack]

Hey... Quick question for you guys unrelated to running. I'm considering a FBG name change. Any suggestions, or anybody want to try to talk me out of it? A couple of gutter minded individuals pointed out that it has a meaning other than what I intended, so I thought maybe I should consider a new identity.

[/hijack]

I don't think you need to do it. You have been that same name and it has meant the same thing since you started here. I would keep it. It is you. Too hard to build up the board cred and identity.Reminds me of a story. I went to school with a girl whose last name was a derogatory term for a woman of loose morals but spelled slightly differently. For purposes of this discussoin I will use "whore" spelled "Hoare". She did not realize what her last name meant until she was told in college. So, you would sit in class on the first day and roll call would go like this...

Teacher: Matthew Harrison

Harrison: Here

Teacher: Meghan ... uh ... Hare

Hoar: Whore

Class: *snicker*

Teacher: Hare? (as in please god tell me you don't pronounce your last name "whore")

Hoar: Whore

Class: *snicker*

Teacher: Ok, whore.

Class: *snicker*

You are schmegma. F the world and their definition.

My mom went to school w/ a girl named Ima Haug, and I went to the same H.S. she did. It was a right of passage your Freshman year to go the class of '57's frame, with all the pic's of the graduates, and look up Ima's picture. Schmegma = "Don't go changin' to try and please us, we like you just the way you are."

 

[Schmegma]

What if I told you the new name I'm considering is Fartleks?

 

[gruecd]

Damned wind here in NE Wisconsin making training a royal PIA. I've got a couple of half marathons in the next 7 weeks, so I really want to get out for a 12-13 mile run tomorrow, but with 20 MPH winds and wind chills in the teens, I'm really not looking forward to it.

Almost can't wait until the summer when I get to train for my fall marathon in the heat and humidity....

 

[pigskinliquors]

What if I told you the new name I'm considering is Fartleks?

I like the name. I also like the name Heather, but wouldn't change my name to it edited to add: why not make Fartleks an alias?

 

[RoarinSonoran]

What if I told you the new name I'm considering is Fartleks?

And we can pronounce it "fart-lick"?

 

[gruecd]

What if I told you the new name I'm considering is Fartleks?

And we can pronounce it "fart-lick"?

Actually, that is how it's pronounced.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Damned wind here in NE Wisconsin making training a royal PIA. I've got a couple of half marathons in the next 7 weeks, so I really want to get out for a 12-13 mile run tomorrow, but with 20 MPH winds and wind chills in the teens, I'm really not looking forward to it.Almost can't wait until the summer when I get to train for my fall marathon in the heat and humidity....

Run down-wind.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

What if I told you the new name I'm considering is Fartleks?

And we can pronounce it "fart-lick"?

Actually, that is how it's pronounced.

fart lehk <> fart lihk