Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

[El Floppo]

Floppo, culdeus - thanks for the thoughts. We have an active cycling club in the neighborhood with some serious bikers. I may just have to bite the bullet and change from my solo ways.

You and me both, brother. But first I'll need to put together more than one ride a month ... Even when I was at my fittest in terms of ITTs, those roadies just always had another gear. When they'd race, I'd try and pace 50 or so yards behind them- not a chance in hell.My tri-club did pack rides once a week (with a guy named Lance who led us) and I felt myself getting really strong with those. But then I got injured and had to keep it in the small ring and ride with the "b" group... chicks and fat dudes didn't help my speed at all.

 

[GStrot]

My schedule...

5/18 3 miles

5/20 5 miles

5/23 3 miles

5/26 5.5 miles

5/30 2 miles

6/2 10k

Forgot to give my update yesterday. Three miles yesterday on the treadmill while my 3 year old watched the Wiggles. Added random inclines and increased the speed just for fun. Big run planned for Saturday. Actually looking forward to it. Never would have guessed that.

Nice work! Your 10k will be a breeze with all of the training you put in. Just make sure to take it easy next week. Want to wish you good luck. I will be on vacaiton next week, so I won't be around to see the updates. Finishing a race is a great feeling. Make sure someone is there to take pcitures when you cross the finish line

Thanks. And thanks for all your (and everyone's) input in this thread so far. It sure has made things easier. Have a nice vacation and look for the update when you return.

 

[culdeus]

So did this guy call you on this bet yet or what?

 

[tri-man 47]

Items from Programmed to Run, by Dr. Tom Miller:

His primary lessons:

1) biomechanical efficiency

and psychomechnical aspects that broadly includes

2) mental focusing techniques

3) understanding how the brain works improves performance

4) 'proper prior programming promotes "phocused" performances

Specific points that I picked up on -

Striding. Consider a drill where you have a scooter and manually push yourself along - one foot on the scooter, the other pushing. You don't reach way ahead with your 'push' foot ...that would actually slow you down. You plant that foot almost underneath yourself and push back. That's the concept for good striding: Focus on a good landing underneath your body and then pushing off strong. I.e., don't overstride, that will actually slow you down as you reach too far with each step and brake a bit on each step.

Arm swing. Keep the hands and arms around heart-height. The hands should swing from around chest height down just above waist level on the side. Upper arms should go forward and back; lower arms can swing in slightly to the chest. If you can see your hands, you're swinging them too far forward.

Breathing. Focus on a strong exhale, and an effective inhale will follow. Let it be a bit noisy. Use the cheeks to exhale strongly.

Psychomechanics. Miller talks at length about the mental aspects of running - finding a fluid running motion (per above) and "phocusing" on that ...using visualization ...using phrases (little sing-songs, or even just a repetitive three count (1-2-3 ..1-2-3 ..)) to help regain focus during a race ...mentally preparing for a race ...understanding left brain/right brain dynamics and even learning to tell the left brain to 'shut up' when it tries to push through negative thoughts.

Those four aspects can all be incorporated in training and racing to improve performance. I have quickly added the breathing aspect with noticeable effect. I have found that focusing on the arm swing helps to establish a smooth lower body rhythm, including a good stride-length and push-off. The mental aspects are things we've talked about here, including the encouragement we offer each other!

 

[Cowboys#1]

I had a rude awakening yesterday..

I am upping my long run by about a kilometer a week yesterday was supposed to be an 11k run. I got home from work at 4pm and decided to head out.. Big mistake it was about 35 degrees celsius with 100% humidity and smog that could kill an elephant. Anyway brilliant me decides he'll tough it out. The heat and smog drained me I did about 7.5 km and had to walk for a minute to stop from falling over. Not pretty.. I did manage to finish the 11k in 56minutes but I was really, really angry with myself for not waiting a few hours for the sun to go down.

I also have a HORRIBLE pain in my foot right where the second metatarsil is.. It hurts to walk and I cant move the foot to the right without massive discomfort. I dont think I broke anything but I can't be sure on what the problem is. I am no foot expert, so if anyone has any idea please let me know!

and guys, great work on the runs last weekend!

 

[El Floppo]

Items from Programmed to Run, by Dr. Tom Miller:

His primary lessons:

1) biomechanical efficiency

and psychomechnical aspects that broadly includes

2) mental focusing techniques

3) understanding how the brain works improves performance

4) 'proper prior programming promotes "phocused" performances

Specific points that I picked up on -

Striding. Consider a drill where you have a scooter and manually push yourself along - one foot on the scooter, the other pushing. You don't reach way ahead with your 'push' foot ...that would actually slow you down. You plant that foot almost underneath yourself and push back. That's the concept for good striding: Focus on a good landing underneath your body and then pushing off strong. I.e., don't overstride, that will actually slow you down as you reach too far with each step and brake a bit on each step.

Arm swing. Keep the hands and arms around heart-height. The hands should swing from around chest height down just above waist level on the side. Upper arms should go forward and back; lower arms can swing in slightly to the chest. If you can see your hands, you're swinging them too far forward.

Breathing. Focus on a strong exhale, and an effective inhale will follow. Let it be a bit noisy. Use the cheeks to exhale strongly.

Psychomechanics. Miller talks at length about the mental aspects of running - finding a fluid running motion (per above) and "phocusing" on that ...using visualization ...using phrases (little sing-songs, or even just a repetitive three count (1-2-3 ..1-2-3 ..)) to help regain focus during a race ...mentally preparing for a race ...understanding left brain/right brain dynamics and even learning to tell the left brain to 'shut up' when it tries to push through negative thoughts.

Those four aspects can all be incorporated in training and racing to improve performance. I have quickly added the breathing aspect with noticeable effect. I have found that focusing on the arm swing helps to establish a smooth lower body rhythm, including a good stride-length and push-off. The mental aspects are things we've talked about here, including the encouragement we offer each other!

Thanks, tri! Very interesting stuff- I'm going out to buy a scooter right now... My old coaches worked a lot with us on that last bit- always getting us to have some "power-mantra" for the swim and run "I'm a swimmer. I'm a swimmer. I'm a swimmer." or whatever we came up with- mine was "One Two. One Two." not so sexy- but it worked.

 

[El Floppo]

I had a rude awakening yesterday..

I am upping my long run by about a kilometer a week yesterday was supposed to be an 11k run. I got home from work at 4pm and decided to head out.. Big mistake it was about 35 degrees celsius with 100% humidity and smog that could kill an elephant. Anyway brilliant me decides he'll tough it out. The heat and smog drained me I did about 7.5 km and had to walk for a minute to stop from falling over. Not pretty.. I did manage to finish the 11k in 56minutes but I was really, really angry with myself for not waiting a few hours for the sun to go down.

I also have a HORRIBLE pain in my foot right where the second metatarsil is.. It hurts to walk and I cant move the foot to the right without massive discomfort. I dont think I broke anything but I can't be sure on what the problem is. I am no foot expert, so if anyone has any idea please let me know!

and guys, great work on the runs last weekend!

You know what- great for you for going out there in crap conditions and not waiting it out. And walking's fine- definitely within the rule books. Nice work!As for the bone... I've had recurring problems with my 5th metatarsil (pinky) due to tendon problems related to years of sprained ankles when I was playing soccer. I do remember there are tendons running under your foot- so it might be something to do with that. I know a GREAT sports podiatrist (marathon runner and Ironman) who single-handedly responsible for getting me through my IM- make a trip to NYC.

 

[GStrot]

So did this guy call you on this bet yet or what?

me? what?

 

[culdeus]

So did this guy call you on this bet yet or what?

me? what?

yeah, your first post mentioned a bet of some sort. About knocking this thing down in under an hour.

 

[GStrot]

So did this guy call you on this bet yet or what?

me? what?

yeah, your first post mentioned a bet of some sort. About knocking this thing down in under an hour.

The bet has evolved. I tried to detail during the thread. It started out less of a bet than a test of manhood as he was running the marathon on the same day and said I could not run the 10k (there is also a 5k that day and maybe even a half which I am surprised he did not push for but he may not have been aware). Anyway, his wife decided she was interested and so did my wife. So, in the interest of keeping his wife happy, the time limit was dropped and I just have to finish (assuming I have to run with the women). I run June 2. I am a winner just for running.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

So did this guy call you on this bet yet or what?

me? what?

yeah, your first post mentioned a bet of some sort. About knocking this thing down in under an hour.

The bet has evolved. I tried to detail during the thread. It started out less of a bet than a test of manhood as he was running the marathon on the same day and said I could not run the 10k (there is also a 5k that day and maybe even a half which I am surprised he did not push for but he may not have been aware). Anyway, his wife decided she was interested and so did my wife. So, in the interest of keeping his wife happy, the time limit was dropped and I just have to finish (assuming I have to run with the women). I run June 2. I am a winner just for running.

That's cool, but you'll still finish in under an hour I'd guess.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Psychomechanics. Miller talks at length about the mental aspects oph running - phinding a phluid running motion (per above) and "phocusing" on that ...using visualization ...using phrases (little sing-songs, or even just a repetitive three count (1-2-3 ..1-2-3 ..)) to help regain phocus during a race ...

Phixed.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Floppo, culdeus - thanks for the thoughts. We have an active cycling club in the neighborhood with some serious bikers. I may just have to bite the bullet and change from my solo ways.

I may need to do the same , though I really enjoy seeing how fast I can get myself to go with no aid. Another recommendation for you is to break down in get clipless pedals and shoes, and aero-bars.

I run June 2. I am a winner just for running.

!

Suddenly this support group isn't just about the running anymore... biggrin.gif

My wife doesn't get mad because she's jealous of my training, and she certainly doesn't get mad because she wants to spend that time with me ( lol.gif )... she gets mad because she's left to take care of both boys on her own while I get to do "me" time. Life's funny sometimes. shrug2.gif

Maybe we can all meet up at Brookfield sometime, leave the wives with the kiddies and run laps around the swamp exibit.

Sorry for the hijack, but is this Brookfield, WI?! I spent much of my childhood there!!

It wasn't pretty, but I poured my fat ### over the saddle and put in 25, half of which was the god-awful commute to and from Central Park. The cycling/tri shirt didn't fit (hello belly, well HELLO belly, it's so nice to see you squeezing out where you don't belong) and I barely remembered what to wear or bring on the ride (remembered the AD cream at the last minute). But I got it done.

I had absolutely no power/strength for pace or hill climbing- hill descending, on the other hand. Was all I could do to pass the middle-aged, fat women's club. But I negative split the 2nd loop in the park- I think because I started to get some form back- 21:30 and 21:00. Got in the bars a handful of times. The bike is MUCH more aggressively set up and sized than my dear old Litespeed (RIP), from the frame to the narrower handle/aero-bars... I felt a little squeezed in there- although that could've just been the rolls and rolls of fat talking.

All in all- VERY happy to have gotten out there at 5:30... I'm gunning for a repeat ride this weekend.

(and again- :thankyou: to this thread for inspiring this for me).

Awesome to hear EF!! You're back in the game!

Wanted to do 45min or so of outdoor rehab riding and ended up doing about 100 minutes last night including a stretch where I got in behind the smu club team and got her up to about 28 for 3 or 4 miles. So much for easing back into this thing.

Seeing the doctor in about 30 minutes to check on the ole knee.

Nothing like easing back into it! Sorry to hear about the stitches, but it had to feel great to feel the speed again!

 

[pigskinliquors]

Items from Programmed to Run, by Dr. Tom Miller:

His primary lessons:

1) biomechanical efficiency

and psychomechnical aspects that broadly includes

2) mental focusing techniques

3) understanding how the brain works improves performance

4) 'proper prior programming promotes "phocused" performances

Specific points that I picked up on -

Striding. Consider a drill where you have a scooter and manually push yourself along - one foot on the scooter, the other pushing. You don't reach way ahead with your 'push' foot ...that would actually slow you down. You plant that foot almost underneath yourself and push back. That's the concept for good striding: Focus on a good landing underneath your body and then pushing off strong. I.e., don't overstride, that will actually slow you down as you reach too far with each step and brake a bit on each step.

Arm swing. Keep the hands and arms around heart-height. The hands should swing from around chest height down just above waist level on the side. Upper arms should go forward and back; lower arms can swing in slightly to the chest. If you can see your hands, you're swinging them too far forward.

Breathing. Focus on a strong exhale, and an effective inhale will follow. Let it be a bit noisy. Use the cheeks to exhale strongly.

Psychomechanics. Miller talks at length about the mental aspects of running - finding a fluid running motion (per above) and "phocusing" on that ...using visualization ...using phrases (little sing-songs, or even just a repetitive three count (1-2-3 ..1-2-3 ..)) to help regain focus during a race ...mentally preparing for a race ...understanding left brain/right brain dynamics and even learning to tell the left brain to 'shut up' when it tries to push through negative thoughts.

Those four aspects can all be incorporated in training and racing to improve performance. I have quickly added the breathing aspect with noticeable effect. I have found that focusing on the arm swing helps to establish a smooth lower body rhythm, including a good stride-length and push-off. The mental aspects are things we've talked about here, including the encouragement we offer each other!

Awesome! Thanks for sharing TriMan!

 

[wraith5]

Looks like you're ready, wraith! Are you, Schmegma and I the ones up this weekend (10 mile, 1/2-marathon, and marathon)?

Good luck this weekend, guys!Both of my kids have been sick this week... so of course I woke up this morning with a sore throat and clogged ears. I went immediately (did not pass GO...) to the urgent care center to get checked out and get a Z-pak perscription. Hopefully whatever is knocking on my door can be fought off until at least 9am tomorrow. Please, God... Pleeeeeeaase!!

It's possibly going to storm all weekend in Chicago, and my SIL who is supposed to run with me is waivering about running it at all now... I think secretly she's worried about me beating her, since she's done Boston & several Tri's but hasn't been able to train a lot lately....

Pigskin - I was actually referring to Brookfield Zoo in Chicago, but I know Brookfield, WI - my grandparents lived there when I was a kid.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Well this has been a clusterbump of a week, total . lol

Monday: final cheer class of the Spring for my daughter, so it met at a different time, plus it was a performance for the parents -- this is my usual running time.

Tuesday: ok, "make-up runs" aren't necessary, but we'll try it...oh wait, American Idol finale is on tonight...

Wednesday: last gymnastics class before holiday, end-of-Spring party! different schedule, again messes up my usual running time...plus we have out-of-town company at the house, so let's be sociable and not go run off.

Thursday: son's HS graduation...it ran later than I was expecting, then I got to play chauffeur to take him to the grad party afterwards...

Friday: well, I think I can squeeze in a couple miles tonight, just to loosen up the legs for my usual Saturday morning run tomorrow...the calendar looks clear for tonight...lol

Saturday: 4miles on tap, the last "long run" before the marathon next week...I'll get up at the crack of dawn to run, so there shouldn't be anything to get in the way...unless of course I break the alarm clock and roll back over...

 

[pigskinliquors]

Pigskin - I was actually referring to Brookfield Zoo in Chicago, but I know Brookfield, WI - my grandparents lived there when I was a kid.

Duh! My Aunt/Uncle/Cousins lived in Brookfield, and I spent many of my summers there.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Serious moment this morning:

I was at the furthest point from our house this morning when I got a flat. I had already added 5 miles to my route, and was going to get home late even w/o the flat. I also didn't bring a CO2 inflater = I had to hand pump the tire once repaired. With the time it took to fix the flat (10 minutes'ish) and the added distance, I decided I'd better call Mrs. Liquor to tell her that I'd be late.

When she answered the phone (6:25 am) her voice was trembling. She just had a nightmare that I got into an accident on my bike, and was certain that my phone call meant her dream was now a reality. While she went from freaked out to calm pretty quickly, I did learn (once I got home) how worried she is about me riding in the morning. I may need to reschedule my training time, as she was pretty shook up, and me going back out certainly won't ease her fears. After the whole "Mrs. Liquors" understands my training schedule, there is now a minor ***** in the armor.

 

[wraith5]

Pigskin - I was actually referring to Brookfield Zoo in Chicago, but I know Brookfield, WI - my grandparents lived there when I was a kid.

Duh! My Aunt/Uncle/Cousins lived in Brookfield, and I spent many of my summers there.

No kidding? I spent a fair amount of time there, too, but I don't remember a whole lot about the area. I do know the summer day camp bus picked me up at the Piggly Wiggly...

 

[Poppa]

Items from Programmed to Run, by Dr. Tom Miller:

His primary lessons:

1) biomechanical efficiency

and psychomechnical aspects that broadly includes

2) mental focusing techniques

3) understanding how the brain works improves performance

4) 'proper prior programming promotes "phocused" performances

Specific points that I picked up on -

Striding. Consider a drill where you have a scooter and manually push yourself along - one foot on the scooter, the other pushing. You don't reach way ahead with your 'push' foot ...that would actually slow you down. You plant that foot almost underneath yourself and push back. That's the concept for good striding: Focus on a good landing underneath your body and then pushing off strong. I.e., don't overstride, that will actually slow you down as you reach too far with each step and brake a bit on each step.

Arm swing. Keep the hands and arms around heart-height. The hands should swing from around chest height down just above waist level on the side. Upper arms should go forward and back; lower arms can swing in slightly to the chest. If you can see your hands, you're swinging them too far forward.

Breathing. Focus on a strong exhale, and an effective inhale will follow. Let it be a bit noisy. Use the cheeks to exhale strongly.

Psychomechanics. Miller talks at length about the mental aspects of running - finding a fluid running motion (per above) and "phocusing" on that ...using visualization ...using phrases (little sing-songs, or even just a repetitive three count (1-2-3 ..1-2-3 ..)) to help regain focus during a race ...mentally preparing for a race ...understanding left brain/right brain dynamics and even learning to tell the left brain to 'shut up' when it tries to push through negative thoughts.

Those four aspects can all be incorporated in training and racing to improve performance. I have quickly added the breathing aspect with noticeable effect. I have found that focusing on the arm swing helps to establish a smooth lower body rhythm, including a good stride-length and push-off. The mental aspects are things we've talked about here, including the encouragement we offer each other!

Thanks, tri! Very interesting stuff- I'm going out to buy a scooter right now... My old coaches worked a lot with us on that last bit- always getting us to have some "power-mantra" for the swim and run "I'm a swimmer. I'm a swimmer. I'm a swimmer." or whatever we came up with- mine was "One Two. One Two." not so sexy- but it worked.

Agreed. Good stuff tri-man! "One step, one step. One step, one step..." The striding here as described...will make you feel as if you are gliding - not running, pounding, stompin' or hoofin'! You'll know it when you hit the glide! :X

 

[culdeus]

Serious moment this morning:I was at the furthest point from our house this morning when I got a flat. I had already added 5 miles to my route, and was going to get home late even w/o the flat. I also didn't bring a CO2 inflater = I had to hand pump the tire once repaired. With the time it took to fix the flat (10 minutes'ish) and the added distance, I decided I'd better call Mrs. Liquor to tell her that I'd be late. When she answered the phone (6:25 am) her voice was trembling. She just had a nightmare that I got into an accident on my bike, and was certain that my phone call meant her dream was now a reality. While she went from freaked out to calm pretty quickly, I did learn (once I got home) how worried she is about me riding in the morning. I may need to reschedule my training time, as she was pretty shook up, and me going back out certainly won't ease her fears. After the whole "Mrs. Liquors" understands my training schedule, there is now a minor ***** in the armor.

There should be less risk riding in the morning than anytime during the day I would think? Especially in the summers.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Serious moment this morning:I was at the furthest point from our house this morning when I got a flat. I had already added 5 miles to my route, and was going to get home late even w/o the flat. I also didn't bring a CO2 inflater = I had to hand pump the tire once repaired. With the time it took to fix the flat (10 minutes'ish) and the added distance, I decided I'd better call Mrs. Liquor to tell her that I'd be late. When she answered the phone (6:25 am) her voice was trembling. She just had a nightmare that I got into an accident on my bike, and was certain that my phone call meant her dream was now a reality. While she went from freaked out to calm pretty quickly, I did learn (once I got home) how worried she is about me riding in the morning. I may need to reschedule my training time, as she was pretty shook up, and me going back out certainly won't ease her fears. After the whole "Mrs. Liquors" understands my training schedule, there is now a minor ***** in the armor.

There should be less risk riding in the morning than anytime during the day I would think? Especially in the summers.

I certainly feel safest in the mornings, as there is little traffic. I also ride with blinking front and rear lights = It's hard to not see me. The Mrs. doesn't feel the same way though

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Serious moment this morning:

I had a "panic moment" this morning as well. When either my wife or I go to bed before the other, we'll leave the bathroom light on and the door cracked (so as not to have to walk into a dark bedroom, and turn on the bedroom light and disturb the sleeper). Since I had to work today, my wife got the chore of picking up my step-son from his Grad Night party at around 2am, so I went to bed at the usual time and left the bathroom light on. At 4am, I woke up to find the bathroom light still on. RED ALERT!! DANGER WILL ROBINSON!! SHE WRAPPED THE CAR AROUND A TREE, OR GOT ARRESTED!!! So, I jumped out of bed and headed out front to see if the car was indeed there. Sure enough, it was there, and wifey was sitting on the front porch hanging out with a brewski with son's father who's in town for the graduation. hew:

 

[pigskinliquors]

So, I jumped out of bed and headed out front to see if the car was indeed there. Sure enough, it was there, and wifey was sitting on the front porch hanging out with a brewski with son's father who's in town for the graduation. laughing.gifhew:

It's a strange day/night when you're excited to see your wife hanging out w/ her ex, drinking beers on your property, while you're asleep!

 

[Cowboys#1]

You dads who do all this training are amazing. All I have to balance is my running with work and going out boozing. Good for all of you!

 

[culdeus]

You dads who do all this training are amazing. All I have to balance is my running with work and going out boozing. Good for all of you!

 

[GStrot]

So, I jumped out of bed and headed out front to see if the car was indeed there. Sure enough, it was there, and wifey was sitting on the front porch hanging out with a brewski with son's father who's in town for the graduation. laughing.gifhew:

It's a strange day/night when you're excited to see your wife hanging out w/ her ex, drinking beers on your property, while you're asleep!

At 4 in the morning, 2 hours after she left no less!Good for RS in having a good enough relationship with his wife (and her ex) that this is cool.

 

[GStrot]

Serious moment this morning:I was at the furthest point from our house this morning when I got a flat. I had already added 5 miles to my route, and was going to get home late even w/o the flat. I also didn't bring a CO2 inflater = I had to hand pump the tire once repaired. With the time it took to fix the flat (10 minutes'ish) and the added distance, I decided I'd better call Mrs. Liquor to tell her that I'd be late. When she answered the phone (6:25 am) her voice was trembling. She just had a nightmare that I got into an accident on my bike, and was certain that my phone call meant her dream was now a reality. While she went from freaked out to calm pretty quickly, I did learn (once I got home) how worried she is about me riding in the morning. I may need to reschedule my training time, as she was pretty shook up, and me going back out certainly won't ease her fears. After the whole "Mrs. Liquors" understands my training schedule, there is now a minor ***** in the armor.

That is kind of freaky. I don't know how you convince her that morning is pretty safe. When I run in the morning (that still looks funny) there are hardly any cars or people out. You can cross what are normally busy streets with relative ease. When does the mrs normally train?

 

[pigskinliquors]

Serious moment this morning:

I was at the furthest point from our house this morning when I got a flat. I had already added 5 miles to my route, and was going to get home late even w/o the flat. I also didn't bring a CO2 inflater = I had to hand pump the tire once repaired. With the time it took to fix the flat (10 minutes'ish) and the added distance, I decided I'd better call Mrs. Liquor to tell her that I'd be late.

When she answered the phone (6:25 am) her voice was trembling. She just had a nightmare that I got into an accident on my bike, and was certain that my phone call meant her dream was now a reality. While she went from freaked out to calm pretty quickly, I did learn (once I got home) how worried she is about me riding in the morning. I may need to reschedule my training time, as she was pretty shook up, and me going back out certainly won't ease her fears. After the whole "Mrs. Liquors" understands my training schedule, there is now a minor ***** in the armor.

That is kind of freaky. I don't know how you convince her that morning is pretty safe. When I run in the morning (that still looks funny) there are hardly any cars or people out. You can cross what are normally busy streets with relative ease. When does the mrs normally train?

M, T, W & F she runs on the treadmill or does yoga while the 2 year old naps and our 5 year old "rests", or she takes our 2 yr. old out on the jogging stroller in the am while our 5 yr. old is at Pre-school. On Thursdays she rides her bike while I watch the kids (I work from home on Thursdays). On Saturdays she and I tag-team swim (one watches the kids at the pool, while the other one swims), and Sundays are her long run days. Sundays are our cluster days, bc I usually have my long bike ride that day as well = after reading the paper together in the morning, we dont' really see each other until noon. Though our kids like it, bc we make that time, play with the kids time, while the other parent is working out. It works for us.

 

[pigskinliquors]

You dads who do all this training are amazing. All I have to balance is my running with work and going out boozing. Good for all of you!

My guess is most of us "Dads" in this thread do less of the "going out boozing" than you do. I'm ecstatic to have a few beers at the end of the day w/ my neighbor, in our front yard. I'm generally in bed at the same time I used to leave to "go out."

 

[RoarinSonoran]

So, I jumped out of bed and headed out front to see if the car was indeed there. Sure enough, it was there, and wifey was sitting on the front porch hanging out with a brewski with son's father who's in town for the graduation. laughing.gifhew:

It's a strange day/night when you're excited to see your wife hanging out w/ her ex, drinking beers on your property, while you're asleep!

He and his brother are in town for the graduation and are staying with us. They're family. Extended family, I suppose the term is nowadays, but family just the same. My wife grew up in an environment that everyone adopts everyone. Ex's parents are "mom & dad" to my wife (they'd be staying with us as well if they could have made the trip). Her best friend's mother is "mom" to my wife. She's leaning towards that sort of thing with our kids' friends, being "mom" to them as well. She's real big on family, however the bonds may be created. It's been a wonderful change for me, as dysfunctional as my family was growing up (dysfunctional in the sense that it was boring, out-of-touch, etc, rather than abusive).I wasn't so much excited to see her with her ex, rather I was excited that she was home and not wrapped around a tree. They're bound together by the child they created, but she's married to me. I don't have a problem with it. Besides, I'm not much of a drinker, so she gets to exercise her "alcoholic gene" when in their company. She intends to get ####-faced at the party tomorrow night. lol :fingerscrossed: leaseletmegetlucky: leaseletmegetlucky:

You dads who do all this training are amazing. All I have to balance is my running with work and going out boozing. Good for all of you!

Well as I mentioned, I've tried to run while they're busy with their gymnastics/cheer classes. Before it got too hot, I'd run during their Saturday gymnastics as well, but now I have to get up at dawn for the coolest time of the day. Tho, I'd probably be screwed if I was doing biking/triathlon training. Seems like a few too many hours than I have right now.

 

[pigskinliquors]

He and his brother are in town for the graduation and are staying with us. shrug2.gif They're family. Extended family, I suppose the term is nowadays, but family just the same. My wife grew up in an environment that everyone adopts everyone. Ex's parents are "mom & dad" to my wife (they'd be staying with us as well if they could have made the trip). Her best friend's mother is "mom" to my wife. She's leaning towards that sort of thing with our kids' friends, being "mom" to them as well. She's real big on family, however the bonds may be created. It's been a wonderful change for me, as dysfunctional as my family was growing up (dysfunctional in the sense that it was boring, out-of-touch, etc, rather than abusive).

I wasn't so much excited to see her with her ex, rather I was excited that she was home and not wrapped around a tree. They're bound together by the child they created, but she's married to me. I don't have a problem with it. Besides, I'm not much of a drinker, so she gets to exercise her "alcoholic gene" when in their company. She intends to get ####-faced at the party tomorrow night. lol :fingerscrossed: leaseletmegetlucky: leaseletmegetlucky: biggrin.gif

That's awesome! It takes a village to keep a family in tact = the more the merrier!

 

[wraith5]

You dads who do all this training are amazing. All I have to balance is my running with work and going out boozing. Good for all of you!

My guess is most of us "Dads" in this thread do less of the "going out boozing" than you do. I'm ecstatic to have a few beers at the end of the day w/ my neighbor, in our front yard. I'm generally in bed at the same time I used to leave to "go out."

That's why I drink at work... Hell, I'm drunk now...

 

[wraith5]

Serious moment this morning:I was at the furthest point from our house this morning when I got a flat. I had already added 5 miles to my route, and was going to get home late even w/o the flat. I also didn't bring a CO2 inflater = I had to hand pump the tire once repaired. With the time it took to fix the flat (10 minutes'ish) and the added distance, I decided I'd better call Mrs. Liquor to tell her that I'd be late. When she answered the phone (6:25 am) her voice was trembling. She just had a nightmare that I got into an accident on my bike, and was certain that my phone call meant her dream was now a reality. While she went from freaked out to calm pretty quickly, I did learn (once I got home) how worried she is about me riding in the morning. I may need to reschedule my training time, as she was pretty shook up, and me going back out certainly won't ease her fears. After the whole "Mrs. Liquors" understands my training schedule, there is now a minor ***** in the armor.

Did your call wake her up? Sometimes the mind will create a back-story to an actual event (such as a phone ringing) in dream form as a way of incorporating it into sleep. Happens to people most often with an alarm that the body just isn't ready to deal with yet. She may have had the "dream" to explain why the phone was ringing that early. Certainly if that's the case, maybe you can ease her fears a bit...

 

[tri-man 47]

You dads who do all this training are amazing. All I have to balance is my running with work and going out boozing. Good for all of you!

My guess is most of us "Dads" in this thread do less of the "going out boozing" than you do. I'm ecstatic to have a few beers at the end of the day w/ my neighbor, in our front yard. I'm generally in bed at the same time I used to leave to "go out."

That's why I drink at work... Hell, I'm drunk now...

 

[pigskinliquors]

Serious moment this morning:I was at the furthest point from our house this morning when I got a flat. I had already added 5 miles to my route, and was going to get home late even w/o the flat. I also didn't bring a CO2 inflater = I had to hand pump the tire once repaired. With the time it took to fix the flat (10 minutes'ish) and the added distance, I decided I'd better call Mrs. Liquor to tell her that I'd be late. When she answered the phone (6:25 am) her voice was trembling. She just had a nightmare that I got into an accident on my bike, and was certain that my phone call meant her dream was now a reality. While she went from freaked out to calm pretty quickly, I did learn (once I got home) how worried she is about me riding in the morning. I may need to reschedule my training time, as she was pretty shook up, and me going back out certainly won't ease her fears. After the whole "Mrs. Liquors" understands my training schedule, there is now a minor ***** in the armor.

Did your call wake her up? Sometimes the mind will create a back-story to an actual event (such as a phone ringing) in dream form as a way of incorporating it into sleep. Happens to people most often with an alarm that the body just isn't ready to deal with yet. She may have had the "dream" to explain why the phone was ringing that early. Certainly if that's the case, maybe you can ease her fears a bit...

The call did wake her up = this might be a great angle to go for!

 

[Cowboys#1]

You dads who do all this training are amazing. All I have to balance is my running with work and going out boozing. Good for all of you!

My guess is most of us "Dads" in this thread do less of the "going out boozing" than you do. I'm ecstatic to have a few beers at the end of the day w/ my neighbor, in our front yard. I'm generally in bed at the same time I used to leave to "go out."

That's why I drink at work... Hell, I'm drunk now...

i'm sure ill be in the same boat as most of you in 10 years.. the question is will i still be doing the running? Seriously you guys have excellent time management.

 

[pigskinliquors]

You dads who do all this training are amazing. All I have to balance is my running with work and going out boozing. Good for all of you!

My guess is most of us "Dads" in this thread do less of the "going out boozing" than you do. I'm ecstatic to have a few beers at the end of the day w/ my neighbor, in our front yard. I'm generally in bed at the same time I used to leave to "go out."

That's why I drink at work... Hell, I'm drunk now...

I'm off to Happy Hour everyone (thanks for the idea!) For everyone racing this weekend...Have a blast!

~Liquors

 

[tri-man 47]

He and his brother are in town for the graduation and are staying with us. They're family. Extended family, I suppose the term is nowadays, but family just the same. My wife grew up in an environment that everyone adopts everyone. Ex's parents are "mom & dad" to my wife (they'd be staying with us as well if they could have made the trip). Her best friend's mother is "mom" to my wife. She's leaning towards that sort of thing with our kids' friends, being "mom" to them as well. She's real big on family, however the bonds may be created. It's been a wonderful change for me, as dysfunctional as my family was growing up (dysfunctional in the sense that it was boring, out-of-touch, etc, rather than abusive).

I wasn't so much excited to see her with her ex, rather I was excited that she was home and not wrapped around a tree. They're bound together by the child they created, but she's married to me. I don't have a problem with it. Besides, I'm not much of a drinker, so she gets to exercise her "alcoholic gene" when in their company. She intends to get ####-faced at the party tomorrow night. lol :fingerscrossed: leaseletmegetlucky: leaseletmegetlucky:

So when "uncle tri" and "uncle floppo" and "uncle grue" and "uncle ivan" et al come down sometime for the Chang marathon, she'll be cool with it. Great! Though "poppa" will confuse the heck out of the whole situation ...

 

[El Floppo]

Serious moment this morning:I was at the furthest point from our house this morning when I got a flat. I had already added 5 miles to my route, and was going to get home late even w/o the flat. I also didn't bring a CO2 inflater = I had to hand pump the tire once repaired. With the time it took to fix the flat (10 minutes'ish) and the added distance, I decided I'd better call Mrs. Liquor to tell her that I'd be late. When she answered the phone (6:25 am) her voice was trembling. She just had a nightmare that I got into an accident on my bike, and was certain that my phone call meant her dream was now a reality. While she went from freaked out to calm pretty quickly, I did learn (once I got home) how worried she is about me riding in the morning. I may need to reschedule my training time, as she was pretty shook up, and me going back out certainly won't ease her fears. After the whole "Mrs. Liquors" understands my training schedule, there is now a minor ***** in the armor.

There should be less risk riding in the morning than anytime during the day I would think? Especially in the summers.

I certainly feel safest in the mornings, as there is little traffic. I also ride with blinking front and rear lights = It's hard to not see me. The Mrs. doesn't feel the same way though

Agreed, re: morning safety.I had my wreck at noon... more traffic, more people, worse visibility (blinking lights and reflectors vs a dark sky is EASY to see). But I can empathize... since the crash, the wife get's freaked out when I hit the bike. Oh- riding in a pack is the safest- just like a school of fish, the big-bad-predator cars and pedestrians can see your group a mile away. Of course, you have to trust the pack... I was involved in a couple of pack-crashes when I had to swtich to the "b" group full of slow people and bad cyclists.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

So when "uncle tri" and "uncle floppo" and "uncle grue" and "uncle ivan" et al come down sometime for the Chang marathon, she'll be cool with it. Great! Though "poppa" will confuse the heck out of the whole situation ...

Certainly, every family has black sheep.

 

[Cowboys#1]

I dont have a road bike but I do have a MTB that I love.. Specialized Stump Jumper Frame and a Fox fork are the main components.. I took out a few minutes ago and I averaged 24.5 km/h with it I did manage to get it to 48km/h on a slight downhill stretch.. I road it in the middle of downtown which is a giant PIA with the cars and people every where.

Anyway what's considered a good pace for a bike?

 

[El Floppo]

I dont have a road bike but I do have a MTB that I love.. Specialized Stump Jumper Frame and a Fox fork are the main components.. I took out a few minutes ago and I averaged 24.5 km/h with it I did manage to get it to 48km/h on a slight downhill stretch.. I road it in the middle of downtown which is a giant PIA with the cars and people every where.

Anyway what's considered a good pace for a bike?

Whatever feels right.Seriously- Culdeus just talked about avging over 4 miles as part of a larger ride at 28mph or some equally insane speed. And that's post-op. As a serious cyclist riding with a group- that's a good speed.

When I race(d) tris, I'd avg about 21mph over 56 miles- but that's riding on my own without any drafting allowed. That put me around the 60-70% mark of guys racing, fwiw. After my one recent ride- I'm probably around 17mph... I did a stretch of time trailing on my way home and could barely go 20mph over a few minutes.

I think Pigskin does about 22mph.

Please don't make me convert MPH to KPH... I dunno- you'd proably have to go a couple of million KPH to be in the range, right?

Basically- go out and try and keep your cadence (pedal strokes per minute) consistent, and let the speed work itself out the more time you spend in the saddle. And don't crash.

 

[Cowboys#1]

I dont have a road bike but I do have a MTB that I love.. Specialized Stump Jumper Frame and a Fox fork are the main components.. I took out a few minutes ago and I averaged 24.5 km/h with it I did manage to get it to 48km/h on a slight downhill stretch.. I road it in the middle of downtown which is a giant PIA with the cars and people every where.

Anyway what's considered a good pace for a bike?

Whatever feels right.Seriously- Culdeus just talked about avging over 4 miles as part of a larger ride at 28mph or some equally insane speed. And that's post-op. As a serious cyclist riding with a group- that's a good speed.

When I race(d) tris, I'd avg about 21mph over 56 miles- but that's riding on my own without any drafting allowed. That put me around the 60-70% mark of guys racing, fwiw. After my one recent ride- I'm probably around 17mph... I did a stretch of time trailing on my way home and could barely go 20mph over a few minutes.

I think Pigskin does about 22mph.

Please don't make me convert MPH to KPH... I dunno- you'd proably have to go a couple of million KPH to be in the range, right?

Basically- go out and try and keep your cadence (pedal strokes per minute) consistent, and let the speed work itself out the more time you spend in the saddle. And don't crash.

thanks for that. The problem I had was that I had frequent stops which killed my momentum. I would ride for 3-5 minutes and get stuck at a light or behind some truck. Annoying! I've never ridden a road bike are they really that much quicker than a MTB?

 

[Schmegma]

Quick hijack while we're on the topic of bikes. As most of you probably know, I bought a new road bike about a month ago. I'm getting a clicking sound - like a single metal-on-metal clink - whenever I torque down hard on the left pedal, such as when I'm ascending a hill.

Thoughts on what this might be in a brand new bike? I'm fairly certain it's coming from the bottom bracket, and it's always at the same spot - when the left pedal is at about 90-100 degree angle from the ground, and on the downstroke on that side.

I hope I've described that well enough.

2 days until the Madison Half Marathon. I've shut it down for the most part to give my knees a rest, so pray for me on Sunday morning if you're so inclined. I suppose I should start a thread.

 

[Schmegma]

I've never ridden a road bike are they really that much quicker than a MTB?

I have a Stumpjumper with a Fox Fork too, and I even put street tires on it, and I can tell you from experience that I'm faster on the road bike. I'm thinking that a lot of the difference comes down to rolling weight and rolling resistance. Speed just seems so much more effortless with the road bike, and the gearing in the MTB just isn't adequate for my road riding.

 

[Poppa]

So when "uncle tri" and "uncle floppo" and "uncle grue" and "uncle ivan" et al come down sometime for the Chang marathon, she'll be cool with it. Great! Though "poppa" will confuse the heck out of the whole situation ...

Certainly, every family has black sheep.

 

[culdeus]

Quick hijack while we're on the topic of bikes. As most of you probably know, I bought a new road bike about a month ago. I'm getting a clicking sound - like a single metal-on-metal clink - whenever I torque down hard on the left pedal, such as when I'm ascending a hill.

Thoughts on what this might be in a brand new bike? I'm fairly certain it's coming from the bottom bracket, and it's always at the same spot - when the left pedal is at about 90-100 degree angle from the ground, and on the downstroke on that side.

I hope I've described that well enough.

2 days until the Madison Half Marathon. I've shut it down for the most part to give my knees a rest, so pray for me on Sunday morning if you're so inclined. I suppose I should start a thread.

This is a common problem with new bikes. You'll likely have to pull the bottom bracket out and put it back in to really get it fixed though just putting a little lube in from the side might hold it off for awhile. You aren't hurting anything in the meantime.Problem is when they install the bottom brackets they can only get so much lube where they need it and so much anti-seize where they need it in a big Asian assembly yard in just so much time. It's a delicate process and I'd pay the 15 bucks or whatever to have the lbs pull it out and put it back in again if you bought it from them or just find one near you that has the tools.

 

[culdeus]

I dont have a road bike but I do have a MTB that I love.. Specialized Stump Jumper Frame and a Fox fork are the main components.. I took out a few minutes ago and I averaged 24.5 km/h with it I did manage to get it to 48km/h on a slight downhill stretch.. I road it in the middle of downtown which is a giant PIA with the cars and people every where.Anyway what's considered a good pace for a bike?

There's a guy that does the Tour de Sachse (a weekly ride here) on a 200 dollar stumpjumper. It's a mega fast ride and he does it with all stock components for 35 miles and the 15 there and the 15 home. It's stunning.MTB solo 18 is kicking it pretty hard on pavement averaging 15 for a varied ride in wind and hills of any consequence is good.Road solo anything over 22 is hammering. Seeing 19 average solo for decent wind and hills is pretty solid. If you can knock down 20 miles in a solid hour then you are pretty much ready to do Cat 5 if you are so inclined. 22 in an hour and you are Cat 4 level more or less. Pros are in the 26/27 range.

 

[culdeus]

I think Pigskin does about 22mph.

You've never been to college station, tx then I take it.