Ran a 10k in June (9 Viewers)

[RoarinSonoran]

In my never-ending quest to be over prepared and sweat the small stuff, I have a question. Anyone ever run a night race and if so, are there any real differences? I’m in for an 8K next Tuesday night, in the dark at 7pm. It is a kickoff event for the Wayne County Lightfest. For the holiday season, they shut down a 6-mile stretch of road that runs though several County parks. Large light displays are spread throughout. Back about 10 years ago, we lived over that way and I recall paying and driving the route. It should be a very cool event, though likely not a very serious. I don’t recall the route being all that well lit, but the light displays should add some light.

Oh certainly, it's different at night. So much more to be thinking about. You should try and run the course at least once before then. During the day for sure (find those potholes, etc), but if you can get in some nights runs, even for just a block or so, it might help.Buy a miner's light (running/biking stores might have?) and light your way. Be sure to find those potholes beforehand, and be wary of those runners around you that didn't search them out. They can trip and take you with them.If there's a center lane, run there (no one drives much here, so the road should be in better condition). Otherwise, run along the center/lane stripes (again, no one drives on the stripes, at least not usually, so less damage should be present).And you may be tempted to take in the light displays, but unless that road is smooth as glass, keep your attention to the road, and also to the other runners who'll be watching the light displays instead of where they're going.If memory serves, I did a 5k or 10k some 20+ years ago at night. I don't remember anything about it tho (obviously, since I barely remember running it at all lol).

holy #### was it cold out there today

This is the time of year when us FL residents get to laugh at the rest of the country Just ran 5.8 in a pleasant 55 F.

This is when AZ residents get to laugh at FL. 92 today.

 

[SteveUK]

holy #### was it cold out there today

This is the time of year when us FL residents get to laugh at the rest of the country Just ran 5.8 in a pleasant 55 F.

Where have I heard this before?

You two are so cute together. Steve, does anybody ever mistake you for Borat?

Borat...no - Saddam Hussein....yes

 

[SteveUK]

holy #### was it cold out there today

This is the time of year when us FL residents get to laugh at the rest of the country Just ran 5.8 in a pleasant 55 F.

This is when AZ residents get to laugh at FL. 92 today.

We have had our share of 90's, and frankly, I'll take the 55 any day

 

[DolphinsPhan]

In my never-ending quest to be over prepared and sweat the small stuff, I have a question. Anyone ever run a night race and if so, are there any real differences? I’m in for an 8K next Tuesday night, in the dark at 7pm. It is a kickoff event for the Wayne County Lightfest. For the holiday season, they shut down a 6-mile stretch of road that runs though several County parks. Large light displays are spread throughout. Back about 10 years ago, we lived over that way and I recall paying and driving the route. It should be a very cool event, though likely not a very serious. I don’t recall the route being all that well lit, but the light displays should add some light.

My gym's annual 5k starts at 7pm. The things I found to be the most difficult are:1. try not to get stuck at work late...that will make you rush and waste energy2. eating that day could really screw you up so watch what you eat and when. I would have a big lunch around noon and then piece of fruit at like 4 and then a clif bar or 1/2 bagel an hour before race time. didn't matter too much b/c it was a 5k3. it will be cold at night so make sure you have a hat and gloves4. take the elevator at work instead of the stairs...save your legs as much as possible5. try and get to the race earlier rather than later b/c you don't want to be stuck in traffic and then rush your warmup routineGood luck!

 

[tri-man 47]

there were times when gusts of wind hit me from behind and it actually tipped me forward a bit. threw me off balance. put me into the proper running position!

 

[gruecd]

how is this even possible? wouldn't those be extremely sore?

I didn't even realize that Katie Holmes was running in New York, so kudos to her, I guess, for not doing the whole "celeb" thing and drawing a bunch of attention to herself. She finished just under 5:30, but you think she'd be a little faster with her wacko husband Tom Cruise chasing her around all the time.

 

[mr. furley]

there were times when gusts of wind hit me from behind and it actually tipped me forward a bit. threw me off balance. put me into the proper running position!

 

[gruecd]

holy #### was it cold out there today

Wuss. Seriously, though, wind is the worst. I pulled on the Under Armour this morning and did my 8-miler with temps in the low 20s (but not much wind), and it felt great out there. Give me this weather before the hot and humid summer weather any day. Just got back from a business trip to Boston (with less than 20 hours of sleep combined over the past three nights), so the last few miles felt pretty crappy, but I still gutted out a respectable 1:01:14 (7:39 pace).

Now I suppose I should get in the shower and get to work.....

 

[DolphinsPhan]

Well, another huge :finger: or (can't tell which yet) to all of you motivators in this thread. Signed up for my town's 5k Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving morning. My cousins will be in town for T-Day and one of them ran the Chicago marathon last month. We are going to run this as our victory lap...not trying to PR this one.

Pretty excited about it since I have never run a race with a friend...in 2 years of running I have only ever run once with someone I knew even for a training run. Looking forward to it.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Well, another huge :finger: or (can't tell which yet) to all of you motivators in this thread. Signed up for my town's 5k Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving morning. My cousins will be in town for T-Day and one of them ran the Chicago marathon last month. We are going to run this as our victory lap...not trying to PR this one. Pretty excited about it since I have never run a race with a friend...in 2 years of running I have only ever run once with someone I knew even for a training run. Looking forward to it.

Good luck on the race!I'm like you, I've actually NEVER run with anyone else. At first it was out of embarassment while I was working through the couch to 5K plan, now I just don't want to have to worry about someone else's pace. BTW, just sent that Couch to 5K plan to a buddy of mine, who's known me for 15 years and can't believe I can go out and run 6-8 miles.

 

[gruecd]

Well, another huge :finger: or (can't tell which yet) to all of you motivators in this thread. Signed up for my town's 5k Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving morning. My cousins will be in town for T-Day and one of them ran the Chicago marathon last month. We are going to run this as our victory lap...not trying to PR this one.

Pretty excited about it since I have never run a race with a friend...in 2 years of running I have only ever run once with someone I knew even for a training run. Looking forward to it.

Good luck on the race!I'm like you, I've actually NEVER run with anyone else. At first it was out of embarassment while I was working through the couch to 5K plan, now I just don't want to have to worry about someone else's pace.

BTW, just sent that Couch to 5K plan to a buddy of mine, who's known me for 15 years and can't believe I can go out and run 6-8 miles.

Keep up the good work, you two! And SFBayDuck, kudos on helping your friend to embrace a healthier lifestyle! I actually just decided to run the 2008 Little Rock Half Marathon on March 2nd with a buddy of mine who lives in Memphis. He's always wanted to run a half, and I guess it's somewhat hilly, so it will be a perfect tune-up for me for Boston. I don't do a lot of "destination" races, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to it.

 

[El Floppo]

how is this even possible? wouldn't those be extremely sore?

I didn't even realize that Katie Holmes was running in New York, so kudos to her, I guess, for not doing the whole "celeb" thing and drawing a bunch of attention to herself. She finished just under 5:30, but you think she'd be a little faster with her wacko husband Tom Cruise chasing her around all the time.

She was on the front page of the Post on Monday. She ran under a pseudonym, and supposedly woudn't have been discovered if Tom hadn't of jumped out of the crowd to give her a hug midway through. I think she got more press than Lance's 2:47. 2:47! My half PR is almost 10minutes slower than that pace... Any advice on when to go for the first post-marathon run? I wasn't anywhere near this stiff after my IM...

 

[tri-man 47]

BTW, just sent that Couch to 5K plan to a buddy of mine, who's known me for 15 years and can't believe I can go out and run 6-8 miles.

 

[El Floppo]

Well, another huge :finger: or :( (can't tell which yet) to all of you motivators in this thread. Signed up for my town's 5k Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving morning. My cousins will be in town for T-Day and one of them ran the Chicago marathon last month. We are going to run this as our victory lap...not trying to PR this one. Pretty excited about it since I have never run a race with a friend...in 2 years of running I have only ever run once with someone I knew even for a training run. Looking forward to it.

Good luck on the race!I'm like you, I've actually NEVER run with anyone else. At first it was out of embarassment while I was working through the couch to 5K plan, now I just don't want to have to worry about someone else's pace. BTW, just sent that Couch to 5K plan to a buddy of mine, who's known me for 15 years and can't believe I can go out and run 6-8 miles.

Nice!Any chance of you doing the Dipsea next year? I might be tempted if the timing is right... can't believe I never ran that race

 

[El Floppo]

Official-like things about the race.... nice last 5k

Overall Place Gender Place Age Place First Name Last Name Age Team State/Country OfficialTime

9399 7693 2761 EL FLOPPO 39M NY USA 3:53:15

5K Time 10K Time 15K Time 20K Time 1/2 Mar. 25K Time 30K Time 35K Time 40K Time Pace/Mile

0:26:48 0:54:13 1:21:35 1:48:54 1:55:10 2:16:55 2:43:40 3:11:06 3:40:17 8:54

 

[DolphinsPhan]

Well, another huge :finger: or (can't tell which yet) to all of you motivators in this thread. Signed up for my town's 5k Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving morning. My cousins will be in town for T-Day and one of them ran the Chicago marathon last month. We are going to run this as our victory lap...not trying to PR this one.

Pretty excited about it since I have never run a race with a friend...in 2 years of running I have only ever run once with someone I knew even for a training run. Looking forward to it.

Good luck on the race!I'm like you, I've actually NEVER run with anyone else. At first it was out of embarassment while I was working through the couch to 5K plan, now I just don't want to have to worry about someone else's pace.

BTW, just sent that Couch to 5K plan to a buddy of mine, who's known me for 15 years and can't believe I can go out and run 6-8 miles.

Nice!Any chance of you doing the Dipsea next year? I might be tempted if the timing is right... can't believe I never ran that race

What means this???

 

[Darrinll40]

Well, another huge :finger: or (can't tell which yet) to all of you motivators in this thread. Signed up for my town's 5k Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving morning. My cousins will be in town for T-Day and one of them ran the Chicago marathon last month. We are going to run this as our victory lap...not trying to PR this one. Pretty excited about it since I have never run a race with a friend...in 2 years of running I have only ever run once with someone I knew even for a training run. Looking forward to it.

Good luck on the race!I'm like you, I've actually NEVER run with anyone else. At first it was out of embarrassment while I was working through the couch to 5K plan, now I just don't want to have to worry about someone else's pace. BTW, just sent that Couch to 5K plan to a buddy of mine, who's known me for 15 years and can't believe I can go out and run 6-8 miles.

Steve and I started training together a couple of days a week a couple of months ago, and it is nice having someone else along. Sometimes we talk, but most of the time we push each other. If you can find a friend to run with, I would recommend doing so, it helps make the miles go by faster.

 

[Darrinll40]

Well, another huge :finger: or (can't tell which yet) to all of you motivators in this thread. Signed up for my town's 5k Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving morning. My cousins will be in town for T-Day and one of them ran the Chicago marathon last month. We are going to run this as our victory lap...not trying to PR this one.

Pretty excited about it since I have never run a race with a friend...in 2 years of running I have only ever run once with someone I knew even for a training run. Looking forward to it.

Good luck on the race!I'm like you, I've actually NEVER run with anyone else. At first it was out of embarassment while I was working through the couch to 5K plan, now I just don't want to have to worry about someone else's pace.

BTW, just sent that Couch to 5K plan to a buddy of mine, who's known me for 15 years and can't believe I can go out and run 6-8 miles.

Nice!Any chance of you doing the Dipsea next year? I might be tempted if the timing is right... can't believe I never ran that race

What means this???

Dipsea, The 98th Annual Dipsea will be run on Sunday, June 8th, 2008 at 8:30 am sharp!

 

[gruecd]

Any advice on when to go for the first post-marathon run? I wasn't anywhere near this stiff after my IM...

I've always heard people suggest resting one day for every mile you run in the marathon (i.e., 26 days of no hard running or racing). Here's more info from Hal Higdon.

 

[DolphinsPhan]

Any advice on when to go for the first post-marathon run? I wasn't anywhere near this stiff after my IM...

I've always heard people suggest resting one day for every mile you run in the marathon (i.e., 26 days of no hard running or racing). Here's more info from Hal Higdon.

I have heard/read that as well. Probably a pretty decent guideline to follow. If you feel ok, you can certainly go for a run, but do a short slow one. After my 1/2 marathon my first run was only 2 or 3 miles and that was a week after the race.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Well, another huge :finger: or (can't tell which yet) to all of you motivators in this thread. Signed up for my town's 5k Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving morning. My cousins will be in town for T-Day and one of them ran the Chicago marathon last month. We are going to run this as our victory lap...not trying to PR this one. Pretty excited about it since I have never run a race with a friend...in 2 years of running I have only ever run once with someone I knew even for a training run. Looking forward to it.

Good luck on the race!I'm like you, I've actually NEVER run with anyone else. At first it was out of embarassment while I was working through the couch to 5K plan, now I just don't want to have to worry about someone else's pace. BTW, just sent that Couch to 5K plan to a buddy of mine, who's known me for 15 years and can't believe I can go out and run 6-8 miles.

Nice!Any chance of you doing the Dipsea next year? I might be tempted if the timing is right... can't believe I never ran that race

I've thought about doing the Dipsea...someday. Who knows, 8 months is a long time from now, maybe I'll become a hill/stairs freak between now and then and think running up and over the top of Mt. Tam is actually a good idea.I'm thinking my next goal will be a 1/2, I haven't looked for one yet but thinking one in early spring would be good timing.

 

[tri-man 47]

Winter gear, from trisports:

http://www.trisports.com/winterclothing.html

Shop if you like, or at least it's an opportunity to explore what's out there.

 

[El Floppo]

Winter gear, from trisports:

http://www.trisports.com/winterclothing.html

Shop if you like, or at least it's an opportunity to explore what's out there.

Thanks! I feel like I used to be on that site weekly- been years since I've checked there.

And I can't recommend arm warmers enough- great for layering on 40s-50s weather when you're torn between a shortsleeve and longsleeve shirt. Thrwo them on under a short sleeve- you can wear them through the run, roll them down part ways, or just take them off and stash them.

 

[El Floppo]

Any advice on when to go for the first post-marathon run? I wasn't anywhere near this stiff after my IM...

I've always heard people suggest resting one day for every mile you run in the marathon (i.e., 26 days of no hard running or racing). Here's more info from Hal Higdon.

I have heard/read that as well. Probably a pretty decent guideline to follow. If you feel ok, you can certainly go for a run, but do a short slow one. After my 1/2 marathon my first run was only 2 or 3 miles and that was a week after the race.

Ummmm... yeah. I'm not looking to go on a hard training run- just a light jog for a few miles to help loosen up. I ran on the wednesday following my Sunday IM, and felt heavy-legged, but fine. Actually helped out quite a bit. I'll keep the 26 day thing in mind for the "real" runs, though...

 

[Rock Lonemilk]

Stuff like this and the Dick & Rick Hoyt story really inspire me to keep going.

 

[2Young2BBald]

I forgot just how much I hate treadmill running. I have been traveling all week and my body has not adjusted to the time change yet, and I gained an hour so I was up before 5am local, so I went for a run on the equipment here. Like most hotels (Courtyard) their equipment is crap. The internal fuse blew twice during the 5 miles I ran and my toes are killing me from the jaring. And, I get some version of motion sickness when running in exercise rooms like this as there was a mirror on the left and in front of me (or maybe I was sick from looking at myself run).

 

[tri-man 47]

[swimhijack]

Holy November Progress, Batman! Great swim this morning - 1,700 yards, featuring three sets of 5 laps in the middle of it, surrounded by other drills. Each set came in at around 4:50, so 58 seconds per lap. For an early, off-season workout, that's a really great time for me ...very encouraging. If I could pull everything as hard as I'm pulling through the water right now, well, I'd be a happy man.

[swimhijack]

 

[DolphinsPhan]

ok so I went back and read all of the stuff that folks posted about cold weather running gear. Still have some questions.

1. Which Under Armour shirts are you guys talking about as your bottom layer against your skin? There are about 1000 different UA shirts.

2. I saw mention of running tights and wind pants. Do running tights mean spandex?

Currently up top I wear a long sleeve Nike DriFit shirt and Brooks jacket. I pretty much only have shorts and need to get some type of running pants. Have a hat and gloves.

Any links to the products would be great. TIA!

 

[tri-man 47]

2. I saw mention of running tights and wind pants. Do running tights mean spandex?

Currently up top I wear a long sleeve Nike DriFit shirt and Brooks jacket. I pretty much only have shorts and need to get some type of running pants. Have a hat and gloves.

Any links to the products would be great. TIA!

I wouldn't say that the tights are technically spandex, which is intended to be a real stretchy material. But the tights are tight-fitting, breathable materials that allow sweat to move away from the body while providing protection against the cold.Something like this:

http://www.trisports.com/craft-courier-pant-mens.html

On really cold days, I'll wear something else under and/or over the tights to keep the 'boys' warm. The legs themselves don't get too cold 'cause they're moving, although on some days of single digit temps (or bad wind chills) I'll wear some sweat pants over the tights. On really cold days, I wouldn't run at all if not for necessary winter training (like last year for a spring marathon).

 

[El Floppo]

[swimhijack]Holy November Progress, Batman! Great swim this morning - 1,700 yards, featuring three sets of 5 laps in the middle of it, surrounded by other drills. Each set came in at around 4:50, so 58 seconds per lap. For an early, off-season workout, that's a really great time for me ...very encouraging. If I could pull everything as hard as I'm pulling through the water right now, well, I'd be a happy man. [swimhijack]

.... Nice!

 

[El Floppo]

Pics o' NYC...

Please notice what I'm doing with my black gloved hand.

Dodge this.

Again with the right hand.

Given the finish time, it appears to have taken me 18 minutes to get to the starting line. I'm actually thankful for the wave start in my group- that would have been a disaster without it.

 

[DolphinsPhan]

Pics o' NYC...

Please notice what I'm doing with my black gloved hand.

Dodge this.

Again with the right hand.

Given the finish time, it appears to have taken me 18 minutes to get to the starting line. I'm actually thankful for the wave start in my group- that would have been a disaster without it.

Nice work Flop :(

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Dipsea, The 98th Annual Dipsea will be run on Sunday, June 8th, 2008 at 8:30 am sharp!

2010 would be the year to do this, #100! 2010: A Dipsea Odyssey

Five & Dime on Sunday.

Not sure if my legs are feeling antsy, or what. Had a doc appt yesterday and got some ART, as well as some light stretching by his physical therapist trainee(??). Had to stand around for a couple of hours yesterday afternoon waiting for a tow truck with my wife (a cracked motor mount decided to let go, cracking two tranny mounts in the process ), so my legs are ???????. Not sure if they're stressed from running on Monday, from ART, from standing, or just in need of running s'more. I didn't get up to run this morning, so I'll have to get in a couple miles tonight. Maybe that'll settle 'em down.

For Sunday, I'm thinking I can blast out the 5k and see what I can do with that, then use the 10k as a warm-down. Of course, I'll probably find a way to kill myself on the 10k, going out too fast, dying on the hills, etc, instead of taking it easy.

 

[El Floppo]

Dipsea, The 98th Annual Dipsea will be run on Sunday, June 8th, 2008 at 8:30 am sharp!

2010 would be the year to do this, #100! 2010: A Dipsea Odyssey

Five & Dime on Sunday.

Not sure if my legs are feeling antsy, or what. Had a doc appt yesterday and got some ART, as well as some light stretching by his physical therapist trainee(??). Had to stand around for a couple of hours yesterday afternoon waiting for a tow truck with my wife (a cracked motor mount decided to let go, cracking two tranny mounts in the process ), so my legs are ???????. Not sure if they're stressed from running on Monday, from ART, from standing, or just in need of running s'more. I didn't get up to run this morning, so I'll have to get in a couple miles tonight. Maybe that'll settle 'em down.

For Sunday, I'm thinking I can blast out the 5k and see what I can do with that, then use the 10k as a warm-down. Of course, I'll probably find a way to kill myself on the 10k, going out too fast, dying on the hills, etc, instead of taking it easy.

I thought that was illegal in AZ? Hmmm... 2010 Dipsea sounds like an excellent idea!

 

[mr. furley]

1) for guys who recently completed the Couch Potato to 5k plan or something similar... guys who are running 5 miles or less. do you find that the first mile is harder than the rest? i really struggle to get my wind and rhythm for the first mile or 1.5, once i cross that point my breathing is smooth and easy. i'm not going fast but i'm not struggling either.

2) for guys who have been running a while.. does this happen to you? does it last longer? say 3 miles?

3) i'm still going with the "5 minute warmup walk" before jogging. do you guys do something similar? do you go from stretching to jogging? more warmup?

i'm thinking my struggles stem from not being warmed up properly.. 5 minutes of walking doesn't break a sweat. i don't think 25 minutes of walking would do it either. do i just have to accept the fact that i'll struggle for the first mile, forever??

 

[tri-man 47]

Pics o' NYC...

Please notice what I'm doing with my black gloved hand.

PTTS'ing!!!! Awesome!

 

[mr. furley]

Pics o' NYC...

Please notice what I'm doing with my black gloved hand.

PTTS'ing!!!! Awesome!

the look on his face, too. awesome shot Flop.

 

[mr. furley]

so.... uhhh.... any of you other guys have issues with, uh, things being jarred loose?

 

[SteveUK]

so.... uhhh.... any of you other guys have issues with, uh, things being jarred loose?

Things? What sort of things? Exactly?

 

[gruecd]

2) for guys who have been running a while.. does this happen to you? does it last longer? say 3 miles?

Absolutely. When I go out for a run, the first couple of miles are almost always the hardest (and the slowest). It almost always gets easier from there.

As far as stretching is concerned, I really don't do any stretching at all. If you are going to stretch, then make sure you're not stretching cold muscles. In other words, go ahead and do your 5-minute walk and then do your stretches (before running). Stretching cold muscles is like putting a rubber band in the freezer and then trying to stretch it. It's probably the only thing worse than not stretching at all. In fact, now that I've got the "Yoga for Athletes" DVD, I think that this will be one of my new year's resolutions.

Anyway, I did 4-miles of fartlek (still makes me laugh) tonight in a total time of 29:30. Started with one mile easy, then one fast mile (6:30), a half mile easy, a half mile hard, another half mile easy, and a half mile of alternating hard/easy between telephone poles. It was a nice alternative to more traditional speedwork. Helped to break up the monotony a little bit.

 

[gruecd]

so.... uhhh.... any of you other guys have issues with, uh, things being jarred loose?

Huh?

 

[DolphinsPhan]

1) for guys who recently completed the Couch Potato to 5k plan or something similar... guys who are running 5 miles or less. do you find that the first mile is harder than the rest? i really struggle to get my wind and rhythm for the first mile or 1.5, once i cross that point my breathing is smooth and easy. i'm not going fast but i'm not struggling either.

2) for guys who have been running a while.. does this happen to you? does it last longer? say 3 miles?

3) i'm still going with the "5 minute warmup walk" before jogging. do you guys do something similar? do you go from stretching to jogging? more warmup?

i'm thinking my struggles stem from not being warmed up properly.. 5 minutes of walking doesn't break a sweat. i don't think 25 minutes of walking would do it either. do i just have to accept the fact that i'll struggle for the first mile, forever??

yep. Sometime I feel like I am going to die for the first 2-3 miles, but once I settle in, it is much easier. I feel more tired at the beginning of a long run than at the end.

 

[mr. furley]

2) for guys who have been running a while.. does this happen to you? does it last longer? say 3 miles?

Absolutely. When I go out for a run, the first couple of miles are almost always the hardest (and the slowest). It almost always gets easier from there.

As far as stretching is concerned, I really don't do any stretching at all. If you are going to stretch, then make sure you're not stretching cold muscles. In other words, go ahead and do your 5-minute walk and then do your stretches (before running). Stretching cold muscles is like putting a rubber band in the freezer and then trying to stretch it. It's probably the only thing worse than not stretching at all. In fact, now that I've got the "Yoga for Athletes" DVD, I think that this will be one of my new year's resolutions.

really? this is gonna be tough. i want/need to stretch but doing it outdoors on the street is gonna look pretty ridiculous.

 

[mr. furley]

so.... uhhh.... any of you other guys have issues with, uh, things being jarred loose?

Huh?

i don't know how to put this gentlyi, uhh, it's like when you hammer down a burrito after a 12-pack of beer.. then wake up the next day and go to the Chinese buffet and top it off with a huge glass of milk.

 

[2Young2BBald]

so.... uhhh.... any of you other guys have issues with, uh, things being jarred loose?

Huh?

i don't know how to put this gentlyi, uhh, it's like when you hammer down a burrito after a 12-pack of beer.. then wake up the next day and go to the Chinese buffet and top it off with a huge glass of milk.

I left my decoder ring in my other pants, do you mean does running create a situating where the turtle is poking its head out or the opposite

 

[El Floppo]

so.... uhhh.... any of you other guys have issues with, uh, things being jarred loose?

Huh?

i don't know how to put this gentlyi, uhh, it's like when you hammer down a burrito after a 12-pack of beer.. then wake up the next day and go to the Chinese buffet and top it off with a huge glass of milk.

I left my decoder ring in my other pants, do you mean does running create a situating where the turtle is poking its head out or the opposite

I was going a totally different direction with that one...

 

[El Floppo]

2) for guys who have been running a while.. does this happen to you? does it last longer? say 3 miles?

Absolutely. When I go out for a run, the first couple of miles are almost always the hardest (and the slowest). It almost always gets easier from there.

As far as stretching is concerned, I really don't do any stretching at all. If you are going to stretch, then make sure you're not stretching cold muscles. In other words, go ahead and do your 5-minute walk and then do your stretches (before running). Stretching cold muscles is like putting a rubber band in the freezer and then trying to stretch it. It's probably the only thing worse than not stretching at all. In fact, now that I've got the "Yoga for Athletes" DVD, I think that this will be one of my new year's resolutions.

really? this is gonna be tough. i want/need to stretch but doing it outdoors on the street is gonna look pretty ridiculous.

Same situation for me- 2-3 miles before I get up to speed. And the first mile is always the worst.And fwiw- my triathlon coaches early on broke me from stretching before running and got me stretching after the run. Wish to hell I could remember why...

 

[Darrinll40]

1) for guys who recently completed the Couch Potato to 5k plan or something similar... guys who are running 5 miles or less. do you find that the first mile is harder than the rest? i really struggle to get my wind and rhythm for the first mile or 1.5, once i cross that point my breathing is smooth and easy. i'm not going fast but i'm not struggling either. 2) for guys who have been running a while.. does this happen to you? does it last longer? say 3 miles?3) i'm still going with the "5 minute warmup walk" before jogging. do you guys do something similar? do you go from stretching to jogging? more warmup? i'm thinking my struggles stem from not being warmed up properly.. 5 minutes of walking doesn't break a sweat. i don't think 25 minutes of walking would do it either. do i just have to accept the fact that i'll struggle for the first mile, forever??

I tried to reply last night, but FBG was having problems. I have now been running for 11 months, and every time I start out at a quick pace I have trouble catching my breath for about a mile. After that I am fine. If I start out slower I have no problems. I think I can train my body out of doing this by starting off faster every run. Steve is a good running partner for that as he starts out faster and then slows a bit in the middle part of the training run.

 

[Darrinll40]

2) for guys who have been running a while.. does this happen to you? does it last longer? say 3 miles?

Absolutely. When I go out for a run, the first couple of miles are almost always the hardest (and the slowest). It almost always gets easier from there.

As far as stretching is concerned, I really don't do any stretching at all. If you are going to stretch, then make sure you're not stretching cold muscles. In other words, go ahead and do your 5-minute walk and then do your stretches (before running). Stretching cold muscles is like putting a rubber band in the freezer and then trying to stretch it. It's probably the only thing worse than not stretching at all. In fact, now that I've got the "Yoga for Athletes" DVD, I think that this will be one of my new year's resolutions.

really? this is gonna be tough. i want/need to stretch but doing it outdoors on the street is gonna look pretty ridiculous.

Same situation for me- 2-3 miles before I get up to speed. And the first mile is always the worst.And fwiw- my triathlon coaches early on broke me from stretching before running and got me stretching after the run. Wish to hell I could remember why...

You guys can take this anyway you like, mostly because I am far from being an expert. When I went to hear Galloway pimp his program last summer, he said that yoga is one thing he would not recommend. He claimed that almost every time a runner called to say he was missing a run because of a pulled muscle, that runner had recently started doing yoga. Personally I don't stretch before or after. But as I said, I have only been doing this a short time.

 

[mr. furley]

so.... uhhh.... any of you other guys have issues with, uh, things being jarred loose?

Huh?

i don't know how to put this gentlyi, uhh, it's like when you hammer down a burrito after a 12-pack of beer.. then wake up the next day and go to the Chinese buffet and top it off with a huge glass of milk.

I left my decoder ring in my other pants, do you mean does running create a situating where the turtle is poking its head out or the opposite

i have a powerful urge to #### when i finish running. for the last 10-15 minutes it's pretty much "touch and go". when i get home i pretty much have to take care of it.