Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

[tri-man 47]

Fun!

I give thanks for Al Gore's innernet invention every time I see that pic.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

3mi in 25:52 today.

 

[Dash]

I have been suffering from some pretty bad allergies the last few days, making a pair of spin classes this week tough to get through. It felt good to get the workouts in, even if my best effort wasn't all that good. Today is off, Saturday should be a medium length ride and Sunday a longer ride.

 

[grrreatlvr]

As a service to this thread, I'll supply some pic's:

Triathlons are Fun!

Check out some of the Triathlon Lab models. While I am a happily married man, I get the privilege of training and racing with one of the models on a regular basis.

 

[2Young2BBald]

I figured after "pulling a Darrin" this week there'd be a bunch of catching up to do, but not so much. I put in about 80 hours this week ramping up 2 different operations due to Hurrcaine Ike & will be travelling until, at least, Thanksgving the way things are looking. I did get a mile swim in on Wednesday (joined a club on a month to month basis) and ran 4-miles on Thursday. I drove 5 hours home last night to get some more clothes, etc and am heading back tonight. I'm going to get a ride in this morning.

I have a handful of questions. First, I am signed up for a 1/2 on 10/19. With only limited chances to train I am bouncing between running it with my wife at 10-minute miles or trying an 8:30 or so pace for the first 5 miles or so and then throtteling back if needed. I'll have to see how much running I can get in between now & then. Stamina should not be an issue with the tri training, but leg strength may be. They have a spin class at the gym that I might be able to get to, is this something I'd like and would it be good for the stamina side of things? I can probably only make 1 a week.

Questions about bike trainers: what do I look for in one (brand, bells & whistles, etc)? I'd like to get one that can accomodate my bike & the kids bikes too. Do they put a lot of wear & tear on the bike? If so are there ways to mitigate this? With the cramping, etc I encountered last week, I'd really like to train on the bike over the winter.

Thats about it, hope all is well with ya'll.

 

[tri-man 47]

2Young: For the 1/2, be cautious with your plans, given the limited running and busy work schedule. Your family supported you during the tri, maybe this would be a nice chance to run with your wife and support her. If you try to run "your pace," there's a good chance you'll end up disappointed anyway.

On the bike trainer, I have a Blackburn and really enjoyed it (and found it effective) this past winter. You'll have to make a decision on whether to get one using magnetic resistance or a fluid trainer. You can search to see the pros and cons of each. Mine's magnetic, and seems just fine. I noticed it really wore down the mounted rear tire. I recently replaced my tires and saved the older, front tire (less worn than the rear) to put on the back wheel for the winter indoor training.

A steady week for me - 2 50 minute swims, 2 hours biking yesterday, and a 6 mile run. Heading out now for a 12 mile run.

 

[gruecd]

My half today sucked ###. :(

Kinda have some stuff going on, so I haven't had much of an appetite lately, and I think I've only slept 10 hours the past three nights combined. Was hoping to do 1:30, but the pace felt uncomfortable from the beginning, and my legs were getting heavy by mile 4-5. Throttled it back and went to survival mode, finishing in 1:37.

 

[tri-man 47]

My half today sucked ###. Kinda have some stuff going on, so I haven't had much of an appetite lately, and I think I've only slept 10 hours the past three nights combined. Was hoping to do 1:30, but the pace felt uncomfortable from the beginning, and my legs were getting heavy by mile 4-5. Throttled it back and went to survival mode, finishing in 1:37.

Understandable, bud. You've had a tough week.

 

[pigskinliquors]

2Young: I agree w/ TriMan = I'd throttle back and run with the wifey. Bring a disposable camera and get some shots of the run; high-five fans; thank all the volunteers; just be there for your wife. You'll have a lot more fun then struggling through a race not knowing what pace your body can handle.

Gruecd: Being 7 minutes off a goal for a half is not bad at all. Sometimes you just don't have it, and with a lot going on, it should have been expected

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My update: I was supposed to have a long'ish run on Saturday; but Culdeus came down for the A&M/Miami game (if that's what you call it) and had extra primo seats for me and a friend. Tailgating and football = no run to be had (much more fun, but no run).

Sunday I played my first games of organized flag football in more than 20 years. We had to have a double header to make up for the games lost last week due to Ike. Add to that our first game went into overtime, and I was pretty tired and sore = no run on Sunday either.

Thus, I had to get up this morning at 5 to get 8 miles in before work. Miraculously, my old legs felt great even after the games yesterday, and I was able to have negative splits for all miles run (each mile faster than the previous). I'll start "officially" training next week for the Houston marathon (16 weeks out), and am actually a bit excited about turning back into a runner again.

 

[gruecd]

My half today sucked ###.

Kinda have some stuff going on, so I haven't had much of an appetite lately, and I think I've only slept 10 hours the past three nights combined. Was hoping to do 1:30, but the pace felt uncomfortable from the beginning, and my legs were getting heavy by mile 4-5. Throttled it back and went to survival mode, finishing in 1:37.

Understandable, bud. You've had a tough week.

You have no idea. But on a more positive note, our Fall 50 teammate, Tim, finished his first-ever marathon yesterday with a time of 4:22:40. Pretty cool.

 

[Peter_Griffin]

My half today sucked ###. Kinda have some stuff going on, so I haven't had much of an appetite lately, and I think I've only slept 10 hours the past three nights combined. Was hoping to do 1:30, but the pace felt uncomfortable from the beginning, and my legs were getting heavy by mile 4-5. Throttled it back and went to survival mode, finishing in 1:37.

I ran my half on Sunday and had the same goal as gruecd and missed it as well.It didn't help that we got stuck in traffic and arrived at the starting line 5 minutes before the race started. I finished in 1:34 which was about 90 seconds faster than last year (and included a 30 second pit stop around mile 6) so I can't complain. I lost to the guy running in a pink tutu but at least I beat the guy wearing the chicken suit!Now it's only 9 weeks to my first marathon.

 

[gruecd]

I lost to the guy running in a pink tutu but at least I beat the guy wearing the chicken suit!

Don't worry. I almost got Furleyed. I beat a 14-year-old by two seconds. He beat me across the finish line, but he must've been lined up ahead of me at the start, because his chip was two seconds slower than mine. Whew!What's your goal time for the marathon? I just got my workout schedule for the next four weeks, and I've got some tough workouts ahead of me. One of them has a 10-min w/u, then 6x5 minutes at 6:50 pace with 5-min recovery, then another 25 minutes at 8:15 pace.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

5mi in 45:08 on Saturday.

 

[tri-man 47]

I ran my half on Sunday and had the same goal as gruecd and missed it as well.It didn't help that we got stuck in traffic and arrived at the starting line 5 minutes before the race started. I finished in 1:34 which was about 90 seconds faster than last year (and included a 30 second pit stop around mile 6) so I can't complain. I lost to the guy running in a pink tutu but at least I beat the guy wearing the chicken suit!Now it's only 9 weeks to my first marathon.

That's still a very good time, PG ...and an improvement over last year!!!On to your marathon!

 

[pigskinliquors]

I ran my half on Sunday and had the same goal as gruecd and missed it as well.

It didn't help that we got stuck in traffic and arrived at the starting line 5 minutes before the race started.

I finished in 1:34 which was about 90 seconds faster than last year (and included a 30 second pit stop around mile 6) so I can't complain. I lost to the guy running in a pink tutu but at least I beat the guy wearing the chicken suit!

Now it's only 9 weeks to my first marathon.

That's still a very good time, PG ...and an improvement over last year!!!On to your marathon!

It's go time PG! FWIW: putting 1:34 into RW's pace calculator suggests you should be shooting for a 3:16 marathon. Here's the link...

 

[Peter_Griffin]

I lost to the guy running in a pink tutu but at least I beat the guy wearing the chicken suit!

Don't worry. I almost got Furleyed. I beat a 14-year-old by two seconds. He beat me across the finish line, but he must've been lined up ahead of me at the start, because his chip was two seconds slower than mine. Whew!What's your goal time for the marathon? I just got my workout schedule for the next four weeks, and I've got some tough workouts ahead of me. One of them has a 10-min w/u, then 6x5 minutes at 6:50 pace with 5-min recovery, then another 25 minutes at 8:15 pace.

Having never run a marathon before my goal was going to be 3:30 since 8 min pace is pretty comfortable for me. Then I realized that 3:15:59 gets me into Boston so that became my tentative goal. I've been doing my long runs between 8s and 8:15s so I think the Boston time may be doable especially in Philly which is one of the easier marathon courses out there.This week is an easy week for me but next week is my first 50 mile week and first 20 miler.

 

[pigskinliquors]

I lost to the guy running in a pink tutu but at least I beat the guy wearing the chicken suit!

Don't worry. I almost got Furleyed. I beat a 14-year-old by two seconds. He beat me across the finish line, but he must've been lined up ahead of me at the start, because his chip was two seconds slower than mine. Whew!What's your goal time for the marathon? I just got my workout schedule for the next four weeks, and I've got some tough workouts ahead of me. One of them has a 10-min w/u, then 6x5 minutes at 6:50 pace with 5-min recovery, then another 25 minutes at 8:15 pace.

Having never run a marathon before my goal was going to be 3:30 since 8 min pace is pretty comfortable for me. Then I realized that 3:15:59 gets me into Boston so that became my tentative goal. I've been doing my long runs between 8s and 8:15s so I think the Boston time may be doable especially in Philly which is one of the easier marathon courses out there.This week is an easy week for me but next week is my first 50 mile week and first 20 miler.

Sounds VERY doable Plugging your half marathon time into Smart Coach, with 45-50 miles per week current; Gives you this as a training schedule!

 

[RoarinSonoran]

3mi in 25:58 today.

 

[BassNBrew]

Emergency appendectomy last night has probably ended the competitive year for me. I was given the green light for moderate rides and light jogging starting tomorrow depending on how I feel. Right now I feel like Tyson in his prime just used my gut for a punching bag.

 

[tri-man 47]

BnB - yikes! Take it easy, man. Be patient ...be patient. Hope you heal fully and fast.

Peter G: For my first marathon last year, I was doing comfortable runs at about 8:00/miles and peaked with a 50 mile week. I ended up at 3:46 on a course with rolling terrain that I hadn't prepared for (other than a quad breakdown, I was on track for a 3:30ish). So my sense is 3:15 will be a challenge ...a good challenge, but a challenge. You're intermediate races have been faster than me, so I've got faith in you.

New shoes! Replaced my Asic Nimbus with some Asic Cumulus 9's (on sale, versus the 10's, at Sports Authority ...nice price under $70). Adding it up, my Nimbus's (Nimbi?) had just over 500 miles on them - right at the top end of the recommended range. They were starting to feel pretty "dead." Did 6 miles in the new shoes this morning and they felt fine. Great swim yesterday with a timed 30 laps (1500 yards) at 29:51 in the middle of the workout.

 

[prosopis]

I have been trying to figure out the shoe thing with out going into the store to be fitted. Reason being is I cant really afford shoes and I am trying to find them as cheap as I can. If I go to the store and get fitted I will feel bad if I dont buy them there.

I got runners world magazine out of the library and did the wet test they reccomended. Turns out I am a normal pronator. They then had a list of shoes for someone like me. I settled on this one.

http://www.brooksrunning.com/prod.php?p=1100441D

Does anyone here know of a place on line to get the best deal? Should I order the same size of shoe I usually wear? I wear a 9 in hiking boots and sneakers. I dont really have dress shoes. I have cowboy boots but I dont know what size they are.

Thanks for any help.

 

[prosopis]

3mi in 25:58 today.

Is that good?

 

[BassNBrew]

3mi in 25:58 today.

Is that good?

Not as good as my 24:59 5k.

 

[pigskinliquors]

I have been trying to figure out the shoe thing with out going into the store to be fitted. Reason being is I cant really afford shoes and I am trying to find them as cheap as I can. If I go to the store and get fitted I will feel bad if I dont buy them there.

I got runners world magazine out of the library and did the wet test they reccomended. Turns out I am a normal pronator. They then had a list of shoes for someone like me. I settled on this one.

http://www.brooksrunning.com/prod.php?p=1100441D

Does anyone here know of a place on line to get the best deal? Should I order the same size of shoe I usually wear? I wear a 9 in hiking boots and sneakers. I dont really have dress shoes. I have cowboy boots but I dont know what size they are.

Thanks for any help.

Running shoes should typically be a minimum of a half size larger, and for some shoes, a full size larger than your normal shoes (you need room in your toe box for running). I've used ****'s Sports, roadrunner sports, shoebox and others, but always just google search to find the best deal after considering shipping. It looks like you're going to have difficulty beating this deal, with free shipping.

 

[pigskinliquors]

New shoes! Replaced my Asic Nimbus with some Asic Cumulus 9's (on sale, versus the 10's, at Sports Authority ...nice price under $70). Adding it up, my Nimbus's (Nimbi?) had just over 500 miles on them - right at the top end of the recommended range. They were starting to feel pretty "dead." Did 6 miles in the new shoes this morning and they felt fine. Great swim yesterday with a timed 30 laps (1500 yards) at 29:51 in the middle of the workout.

Tri-Man; be careful putting on large miles in the Cumulus, after running on Nimbus. I have been running on both for the last decade+, but have learned that when I'm having hard training weeks that I ache much more if I wear the Cumulus, then the Nimbus. My last two, and three of my last four injuries have also occurred while wearing Cumulus. I currently only use the Cumulus for short recovery runs, and the Nimbus for all speed and long runs (I only have three run types, as I run 3x per week). Being lighter, the Cumulus feel great, but they don't have as much shock accentuation, and have a narrower platform = just be careful.

 

[pigskinliquors]

3mi in 25:58 today.

Is that good?

Not as good as my 24:59 5k.

I bet he'd kick your butt today though I have few fears, but have had an irrational fear of needing an appendectomy prior to a game/event (I've had it since Junior High). Take your time recovering, and make sure those around you spoil you rotten.

 

[BassNBrew]

3mi in 25:58 today.

Is that good?

Not as good as my 24:59 5k.

I bet he'd kick your butt today though I have few fears, but have had an irrational fear of needing an appendectomy prior to a game/event (I've had it since Junior High). Take your time recovering, and make sure those around you spoil you rotten.

Furley would probably kick my butt today. I hit the gym monday nite for the first time in months. Worked the ads extra hard so I can't distingish between the surgery pain and the muscle soreness. The pain medicine hasn't helped in that regard so I assume it's muscle soreness. Feel pretty good otherwise so I'm going to get a half day in today (self-employed).On a better note, I just bought a Cervelo R3. Should have it Monday. I'll post a pic when I get a chance.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Cervelo R3...pic

 

[Peter_Griffin]

Does anyone here know of a place on line to get the best deal? Should I order the same size of shoe I usually wear? I wear a 9 in hiking boots and sneakers. I dont really have dress shoes. I have cowboy boots but I dont know what size they are.

Thanks for any help.

My wife and I buy from Holabird SportsTheir prices are a tad better than Road Runner Sports and they only charge $5 to ship no matter how large your order is.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

3mi in 26:15ish (forgot to note the exact time, and now that I think of it, I may have also forgotten to turn off my watch, so I'll have to charge it ).

And BNB, that was run before sunrise, and everyone knows you run about 3mins slower before sunrise, so my actual time would have been 23:15. :finger: :lunges:

 

[tri-man 47]

prosopis - if you've found a style (or two) that should fit with your pronation, then you could go to a bigger store (like a Sports Authority) and try to find your size ...remembering the advice to give good room for your toes.

liquors - I hear you on the shoes. I won't be doing any speed work until next spring ...just slogging out the miles to prep for the Fall 50, and then just keeping up some base miles through the winter. So I figured "downgrading" to the Cumulus wouldn't hurt me. Plus, I'm just plain cheap.

BTW, with my recent runs in Virginia, I believe I've now run in 21 states.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

I have been trying to figure out the shoe thing with out going into the store to be fitted. Reason being is I cant really afford shoes and I am trying to find them as cheap as I can. If I go to the store and get fitted I will feel bad if I dont buy them there.

Go to Walmart, Target, JC Penney Outlet, etc, any of these types of stores that are pretty much self-serve in their shoe department. Heck, even Payless Shoes is somewhat self-serve. You'll usually find Al Bundy hovering over you at Footlocker or other specialty store, so keep your shopper's-guilt out of there. They should have a shoe-size-measurer-thingamabob (I believe that's the technical term) laying on the floor in each of the aisles. Measure your feet (BOTH feet, as most people have different sized feet; then use the larger size; also, I believe you're supposed to measure your feet late in the day, as your feet will swell after being on them all day -- always fit your feet at their largest), add a 1/2 to 1 size larger as pigskin said, try on several pairs of any similar shoes on the rack as a check, then go buy your desired shoes wherever you find the best buy.I'm going through something similar. I need a new pair of shoes, I need them NOW so I can break them in before the Fall50 (a month from today!!! ), but I'm trying to watch expenses while preparing to move. I currently wear Brooks Adrenaline GTS 6, and would like to get the next model in line, GTS 7, but the prices haven't dropped since the GTS 8 came out. That's how I got the GTS 6 (GTS 7 came out, GTS 6 = half price). I'm at the point of "eff it, I'll just get the GTS 8 since the prices aren't much different", but I have to re-determine my size. Stupid tags in my current shoes have worn out and I can't read 'em!!

 

[gruecd]

I buy almost all of my running shoes from the FootRx Online Store. In fact, my new pair of New Balance 1062s just came in the mail today!

Their prices are as good as anyone's, and you can use the coupon code preferred0200 to get an additional 20% off your entire order! Plus...if you spend at least $100 (post-discount), you get free shipping.

The guy who owns the store is also a regular in the RWOL Shoe Forum, which is a great source of information regarding all things running shoes.

P.S. While you're in his store, pick up a pair of Balega Hidden Comfort socks. They're the best!

 

[El Floppo]

Got 2 more runs in this week... very slow, very short (2.5 each), but the achilles and ankle aren't barking.

I'm going to try and put in a little longer run this weekend.. probably 4 max. Again on the slow. I'll try and keep this going really slowly and once some base comes back in a couple of weeks and there's still no pain, I'll start getting back to more normal workouts (speed, pace, hills, etc).

But gotta, musta, haveta get back in the saddle and dust the bike off. I'm really feeling the need to get back into tris next year- lots of races have cropped up near NYC, and all the talk in here about having the kids at the finish line is inspiring me (once again) to try not to look like such a fat slob in front of floppolihno.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Does anyone here know of a place on line to get the best deal? Should I order the same size of shoe I usually wear? I wear a 9 in hiking boots and sneakers. I dont really have dress shoes. I have cowboy boots but I dont know what size they are.Thanks for any help.

Taking this a slightly different direction, why not try eBay? Running is one of those things where folks will drop big $ on gear, use it once, hate it and try to mitigate things by selling them. I got a pair of $150+ trail runners for 5-bucks when I wanted to give some a try. My shoe size is the same as a dress shoe in both Asiscs & Brooks running shoes. I agree with the advice above, go get fitted at a chain store and just don't buy'em. As for socks, I find the brand doesn't matter as much as how they are made. I need a double-walled synthetic.As for an update, I'm still doing 10 to 12 hour work days but had time Tuesday to swim and challenged myself to swim 1/2 hour straight without rest, which I did. I have no idea how far I swam as I didn't feel like counting. The reason I challenged myself is that I'd like to move up and do an Olympic Tri some time next year and this was a nice start towards this.I also got in a 10K yesterday and it was a bit of a struggle to do it under 50 minutes, but I did. As I thought, the stamina was there 110%, but the legs just are not right. With me being away, my wife went and signed up for a 1/2 marathon without me a week from Sunday . I find it weird us not doing this one together and I and extemely jealous of how much training she is doing (she did her last 10-miler yesterday). My competitive side will just have to get over that she'll have done 1 more than me.

 

[El Floppo]

Peter G: For my first marathon last year, I was doing comfortable runs at about 8:00/miles and peaked with a 50 mile week. I ended up at 3:46 on a course with rolling terrain that I hadn't prepared for (other than a quad breakdown, I was on track for a 3:30ish). So my sense is 3:15 will be a challenge ...a good challenge, but a challenge. You're intermediate races have been faster than me, so I've got faith in you.

My first marathon was last year too, but harder to compare with you since I was a couple of years out of fighting shape going into it. I share my 1/2 marathon PR to the second with gruecd (again, 3 years ago), but did the marathon training last year with no base. Put in no more than 28m weeks, had several long runs where I felt great and on target for a 3:45. Even felt ok and on target for the first part of the race (NYC) but the lack of base killed me in the last 10k and I slumped in to 3:53 (happy enough with that, all things considered).I would imagine with what you're doing, a 3:30 should be a backup goal with the 3:15 as your target. As close as you'll probably be, you might as well go for Boston and let it all hang out- worst thing that happens is you end up crashing hard and havnig to walk in for a mid to late 3:00s finish.

 

[BassNBrew]

With me being away, my wife went and signed up for a 1/2 marathon without me a week from Sunday . I find it weird us not doing this one together and I and extemely jealous of how much training she is doing (she did her last 10-miler yesterday). My competitive side will just have to get over that she'll have done 1 more than me.

Damn, i thought getting sliced open sucked, but getting oVVned by your wife is the pits. Why can't you sign up and do this with her? That's a pretty good 10K time. You're well on your way to that Oly Tri.

 

[El Floppo]

Does anyone here know of a place on line to get the best deal? Should I order the same size of shoe I usually wear? I wear a 9 in hiking boots and sneakers. I dont really have dress shoes. I have cowboy boots but I dont know what size they are.Thanks for any help.

Taking this a slightly different direction, why not try eBay? Running is one of those things where folks will drop big $ on gear, use it once, hate it and try to mitigate things by selling them. I got a pair of $150+ trail runners for 5-bucks when I wanted to give some a try. My shoe size is the same as a dress shoe in both Asiscs & Brooks running shoes. I agree with the advice above, go get fitted at a chain store and just don't buy'em. As for socks, I find the brand doesn't matter as much as how they are made. I need a double-walled synthetic.As for an update, I'm still doing 10 to 12 hour work days but had time Tuesday to swim and challenged myself to swim 1/2 hour straight without rest, which I did. I have no idea how far I swam as I didn't feel like counting. The reason I challenged myself is that I'd like to move up and do an Olympic Tri some time next year and this was a nice start towards this.I also got in a 10K yesterday and it was a bit of a struggle to do it under 50 minutes, but I did. As I thought, the stamina was there 110%, but the legs just are not right. With me being away, my wife went and signed up for a 1/2 marathon without me a week from Sunday . I find it weird us not doing this one together and I and extemely jealous of how much training she is doing (she did her last 10-miler yesterday). My competitive side will just have to get over that she'll have done 1 more than me.

Yes! Olympic, here we come! I'm goign to do my best to join you next year (at least in distance and spirit, not location) and get back into the tris.Sorry about the wifey cheating on you. :sad: BUt envious that she's sharing all this with you... my wife's version of a triathlon is Shopping-Spa-Cocktails.

 

[2Young2BBald]

With me being away, my wife went and signed up for a 1/2 marathon without me a week from Sunday . I find it weird us not doing this one together and I and extemely jealous of how much training she is doing (she did her last 10-miler yesterday). My competitive side will just have to get over that she'll have done 1 more than me.

Damn, i thought getting sliced open sucked, but getting oVVned by your wife is the pits. Why can't you sign up and do this with her? That's a pretty good 10K time. You're well on your way to that Oly Tri.

You mean other than being another state for work for the next 2-months or so? I just can't get back that weekend to run with her and get back 2 weeks later to run the Detroit Free Press 1/2 Marathon. My fault for not adding more details. Getting sliced open still sucks more. Haven't had the appendix out, but had hernia surgery a while back where they sliced out the bottom of the belly button and two other spots next to it to get in. Running was out for around 3 weeks.Cycling question for you and others, what do I look for in gloves (brand, type, padding, etc)? The bars on my new bike have the padded wrap, but its not enough.

 

[2Young2BBald]

my wife's version of a triathlon is Shopping-Spa-Cocktails.

 

[gruecd]

Having never run a marathon before my goal was going to be 3:30 since 8 min pace is pretty comfortable for me. Then I realized that 3:15:59 gets me into Boston so that became my tentative goal. I've been doing my long runs between 8s and 8:15s so I think the Boston time may be doable especially in Philly which is one of the easier marathon courses out there.This week is an easy week for me but next week is my first 50 mile week and first 20 miler.

FWIW, I'm training to run 3:10 at Memphis in December (or maybe even a little faster), and my coach has me doing all of my long runs and my easy stuff at 8:20'ish pace. If you're thinking about shooting for 3:15, then I'd guess that 8-minute pace is way too fast for your training runs. It sounds counter-intuitive that you'll race faster by training slower, but it's super important that you develop your Zone 1 as much as possible. Believe me when I say that 8-minute pace feels very comfortable for me, too, but it's still way too close to MP for training purposes.

 

[prosopis]

Thanks for all the shoe advice.

 

[BassNBrew]

With me being away, my wife went and signed up for a 1/2 marathon without me a week from Sunday . I find it weird us not doing this one together and I and extemely jealous of how much training she is doing (she did her last 10-miler yesterday). My competitive side will just have to get over that she'll have done 1 more than me.

Damn, i thought getting sliced open sucked, but getting oVVned by your wife is the pits. Why can't you sign up and do this with her? That's a pretty good 10K time. You're well on your way to that Oly Tri.

You mean other than being another state for work for the next 2-months or so? I just can't get back that weekend to run with her and get back 2 weeks later to run the Detroit Free Press 1/2 Marathon. My fault for not adding more details. Getting sliced open still sucks more. Haven't had the appendix out, but had hernia surgery a while back where they sliced out the bottom of the belly button and two other spots next to it to get in. Running was out for around 3 weeks.Cycling question for you and others, what do I look for in gloves (brand, type, padding, etc)? The bars on my new bike have the padded wrap, but its not enough.

For the event, you won't want gloves. Takes time to put them on.Beyond that, for training whatever feels comfortable. try several pairs on at the shop. I'm not a huge fan of a big wad of padding as it makes my hands cramp.

 

[Dash]

With me being away, my wife went and signed up for a 1/2 marathon without me a week from Sunday . I find it weird us not doing this one together and I and extemely jealous of how much training she is doing (she did her last 10-miler yesterday). My competitive side will just have to get over that she'll have done 1 more than me.

Damn, i thought getting sliced open sucked, but getting oVVned by your wife is the pits. Why can't you sign up and do this with her? That's a pretty good 10K time. You're well on your way to that Oly Tri.

You mean other than being another state for work for the next 2-months or so? I just can't get back that weekend to run with her and get back 2 weeks later to run the Detroit Free Press 1/2 Marathon. My fault for not adding more details. Getting sliced open still sucks more. Haven't had the appendix out, but had hernia surgery a while back where they sliced out the bottom of the belly button and two other spots next to it to get in. Running was out for around 3 weeks.Cycling question for you and others, what do I look for in gloves (brand, type, padding, etc)? The bars on my new bike have the padded wrap, but its not enough.

For the event, you won't want gloves. Takes time to put them on.Beyond that, for training whatever feels comfortable. try several pairs on at the shop. I'm not a huge fan of a big wad of padding as it makes my hands cramp.

I'll second that. I'm looking for new gloves with a bit less padding on the underside/bottom of the hand. BnB - I hope your recovery is quick.

Pigskins - I have the same irrational emergency appendectomy fear...

Training update: I ride my metric century Sunday. I should have a ride partner, maybe two. One of them was the spinning instructor from last night's class (I wanted to get outside for a ride, but the rain was coming down in sheets at times). He put us in a world of hurt and my legs are feeling it this morning. I know I'll be fine on Sunday, but I wasn't expecting any soreness. Glad to know my energy levels have returned after that allergy bout last week.

 

[tri-man 47]

Went out of town for a long weekend (parent's weekend, in Des Moines). I had free time both weekend mornings ...but packed everything except my running shorts. So I decided to retool the workouts, and went with reps both days - 150 push-ups/etc on Saturday and 200 today. The "etc" includes sit-ups and such, but to make the training more strenuous, I did 150 lunges on Saturday and 100 more on Sunday.

:fingertomyself:

Ouch! But the soreness in my legs, and the difficulty on stairs as a result, is an awful lot like the post-marathon feeling in my legs. So would that imply there's a correlation in the muscles being worked/trained with the lunges and the ones that are stressed in a marathon? With tentative plans for a marathon next October, I'll commit to lunges throughout this next year and see how that goes. [i can race next October at age 54, which adds ten minutes to my next age group (55+) for Boston qualifying, given their eighteen month window. Gawd, I'm getting old.]

 

[2Young2BBald]

Anyone race with the new disposeable ChampionChip? They are popping up on the race information pages for a couple of upcoming races. Last year's Detroit Marathon & 1/2 Marathon was a test event for them. I can't wait to use them. I hate the feel of the chip on my shoe top and find it very weird to have someone take my chip off my shoe for me (but do it as bending over is usually tough at the end).

I "only" worked 65 hours this week and got in a swim and 2 six mile runs. No matter what I get in this week, I am going to shoot for a 10 mile run next Sunday. This'll give me a good feel for what I can do for the Detroit 1/2 on 10/19. My wife would rather I not run with her as I pushed ger to go too fast in Indy earlier this year. I ran a 1:53 last year and did 1:49 back in April in another event, but was certainly running more leading up to each event. I'd guess a 1:55 or so is doable.

 

[DolphinsPhan]

It's been a long time since I have posted in here. Haven't done too much running this year between having a 2nd kid and starting a new job. Started getting back out there the past few weeks though. I have been doing the Chi Running thing. Feels good. I took a 1/2 day seminar and found it very useful. Hard to learn this stuff from a book. Actually helps me enjoy running instead of seeing it as exercise/work...just a matter of finding a convenient time to run.

Signed up for my town's Turkey Trot. I feel like if I don't have a race scheduled then I won't stick to any type of consistent training and it all goes to crap.

Hope everyone is doing well...

 

[Peter_Griffin]

Anyone race with the new disposeable ChampionChip? They are popping up on the race information pages for a couple of upcoming races. Last year's Detroit Marathon & 1/2 Marathon was a test event for them. I can't wait to use them. I hate the feel of the chip on my shoe top and find it very weird to have someone take my chip off my shoe for me (but do it as bending over is usually tough at the end).

We used them for the Philly Distance Run 2 weekends ago. You don't even notice it's there (but I didn't have a problem with the old chips either)

 

[Dash]

Metric Century Ride Report: Wasn't feeling that great Friday or Saturday so I slept about 10 hours Friday night. Got in a good 8 hours Saturday night and woke up feeling pretty good Sunday. Ate, hit the road and met up with my ride partner. Just before starting we hooked up with a couple guys from his team and one other guy (those three were doing the 100 miles, but our courses were the same for the first 40 miles).

The weather was OK after a few days of soaking rain; 65 with 85% humidity to start. Rain expected. Lots of road spray for my clean white shirt. Wohoo! A mile in and the three 100-milers were keeping a pace over 23mph. My partner and I were gapped because we had to slow before making a safe pass around a father & son. We pushed our pace, caught the three 100-milers and talked with them about pacing. They were "comfortable" with the pace as-is, but my partner and I were aiming for around an 18mph average. We backed off and settled into our own groove. Since my partner was using the ride as a training effort pushing a specific cadence/gearing, he did almost all the pacing. When he wasn't pacing it was side-by-side riding and chatting. We had a 10 minute stop at the mile 35 rest station, getting some snacks and fluids. We didn't stop again until we finished the ride. For a good portion of the ride we didn't see anyone else participating in the ride.

I didn't really suffer until the last set of rolling, short and steep hills. I was fine with the muscle fatigue and able to push over the top of the hills, albiet slowly for the last handful. I began taking longer to recover after those efforts around mile 52. Each time, after I recovered, we worked our way back to a ~20mph pace. The rain held off until we were back at the post-ride lunch, safely under the roof.

In all, I'm very happy with the ride outcome. I reached my goal of a good effort and a good bit of fun.

ETA:

Miles: 67.2

Avg Speed: 18.4mph

Time: 3:39

 

[pigskinliquors]

Hi All I actually had a hard work week last week = I was pretty absent from here. Thank goodness I'm back to a normal week!

2Young: For gloves, fit is the most important need, for if they don't fit right, you can irritate your hands pretty bad. Also look for gel padding, and terry cloth thumb (for wiping sweat off).

Tri-Man: Thanks for the lunge reminder. I did quite a few all summer as I didn't have much time to train, and noticed a large reduction in muscle soreness when I was able to have time to train.

Peter G and Gruecd: I also agree with the need for "slow" training in Zones 1 & 2. For Houston I'm shooting for 3:30 (8 minute miles) and will do the vast majority of my training at 8:45's. I only run 3x per week = 1 long; 1 recovery (slow and short) and 1 speed. All long and recovery miles will be between 8:35 and 8:50; and all recovery and warm-up miles/distances will be around 8:45 as well. Getting speed work in is necessary though if you train mostly in Zones 1 and 2.

Dash: Great to hear that you had a good ride! I love the 100k distance, and it sounds like yours was managed without difficulty

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My update:

On Saturday I got my first "speed" run in months, and it was much more difficult than I anticipated. It was just 3 miles @ 7:30 (w/ 1 mile warm and cool downs), but my legs haven't turned over that fast since last Spring so it felt pretty awkward. Yesterday I painted the outside of the house all morning, then had back-to-back flag football games in the afternoon. My quads are still tight = I need to get on the lunges as well.

Today was supposed to be an early morning ez 8 miler, but my alarm didn't go off (I set it wrong). I ended up waking up 15 miles late, so I turned it into a 6 miler, with miles 4 & 5 at race pace (8:00 instead of 8:45's). I'll up my Wed. run (supposed to be recovery) to 7 (instead of 5) to make up for some of the lost miles today. Being on a running training schedule (1st time since last January) is comforting, but it makes running less about waking up and doing what I feel like, and more purposive (both good and bad).

Who's up next for a race?