Ran a 10k - Official Thread (4 Viewers)

[gruecd]

Have we heard from Grue and how the marathon pacing went?

I saw he ran a 3:38 ...not sure how that affected his 3:35 pace group (a buddy of his was the second pacer ..maybe he brought 'em home?).

Yeah, I was fine (relatively speaking) through the first 22 miles, but then my lack of training started to catch up with me. I probably could've pushed through the discomfort, but I literally had nobody left with me at that point, so I just jogged it in. My buddy actually had some stomach issues that necessitated a 5-minute bathroom break around mile 17. As you can imagine, it was near impossible for him to get his legs going again after that, and he never caught up. All in all a pretty miserable experience.

The good news is that I feel motivated to start training again....as soon as the muscle soreness goes away.

 

[tri-man 47]

I read that the Boston registrations have been closed down and that they'll need to again limit the field. Ned, I'm rooting for you, as I know we all are. This waiting is probably as aggravating as a taper. Good luck, gb.

 

[Ned]

I read that the Boston registrations have been closed down and that they'll need to again limit the field. Ned, I'm rooting for you, as I know we all are. This waiting is probably as aggravating as a taper. Good luck, gb.

Thanks, GB. I've chalked it up to a pure lotto ticket, so I'm not chomping at the bit at all. If I get it, I'll be over the moon excited, but I'm not holding my breath. With only 5,000 spots available after the first week, it's a slim chance I get in.

I did have a minor heart attack when I saw they charged my card, but that was on Monday. Kind of stupid they hold $180 for so long.

 

[The Commish]

Yup....what I was afraid of. Starting at square one is required

Learn your lesson and stick with it, now!!!

Well....I do have a pretty good excuse this time.

And at least I got back up on the horse damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[5Rings]

My first Triathlon is this weekend down in Carpenteria. Run and bike are no problems, just going to try and survive the ocean swim.

I was advised to stop all training now and relax until gametime. Sound right to you vets?

 

[2Young2BBald]

My first Triathlon is this weekend down in Carpenteria. Run and bike are no problems, just going to try and survive the ocean swim.

I was advised to stop all training now and relax until gametime. Sound right to you vets?

Yep. A few other quick swim things. Line up about five guys deep or so. When the gun goes of, say your ABC or sing happy birthday in your head (something that will give you about 30 to 40 seconds of pause. Watch for a lane to emerge that will allow you to get to the first buoy. This will save you from the mosh pit; saving both time and energy. If the water is clear, follow the kick bubbles of the guy in front of you. Drafting can make the swim unbelievably easy. Side spotting swimmers can be easier than front spotting buoys. Hope the guys on your sides know where they r going and use them to stay on course; spot the buoys every 30 to 50 yards using this method. Roll to your back if you get an bit painced. Gather yourself and then go. Finally, slow down to go faster. Get a song in your head that allows for a nice even cadence so you don't burn out in the first 100 yards. Best of luck and have fun.

 

[FUBAR]

My first Triathlon is this weekend down in Carpenteria. Run and bike are no problems, just going to try and survive the ocean swim.

I was advised to stop all training now and relax until gametime. Sound right to you vets?

Yep. A few other quick swim things. Line up about five guys deep or so. When the gun goes of, say your ABC or sing happy birthday in your head (something that will give you about 30 to 40 seconds of pause. Watch for a lane to emerge that will allow you to get to the first buoy. This will save you from the mosh pit; saving both time and energy. If the water is clear, follow the kick bubbles of the guy in front of you. Drafting can make the swim unbelievably easy. Side spotting swimmers can be easier than front spotting buoys. Hope the guys on your sides know where they r going and use them to stay on course; spot the buoys every 30 to 50 yards using this method. Roll to your back if you get an bit painced. Gather yourself and then go. Finally, slow down to go faster. Get a song in your head that allows for a nice even cadence so you don't burn out in the first 100 yards. Best of luck and have fun.

I won't wait at the start of the swim, but I don't sprint like others. If it helps, do breaststroke for about 30 seconds. Not only will it help you not burn out, you'll be able to see better while still moving not too much slower than a moderate front crawl.

Assume you've swam some breastroke, it's my preferred resting stroke. Much better than going on your back IMO.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Do you ever see someone do the sidestroke for the swim portion? I know it's not fast but it certainly would be easier for those that struggle.

 

[5Rings]

Though its slower, breastroke is my favorite stroke and I plan on employing it for the about half the swim. Great tips, thanks!

 

[FUBAR]

Do you ever see someone do the sidestroke for the swim portion? I know it's not fast but it certainly would be easier for those that struggle.

my buddy swam half of his 1.2 sidestroke in our first 70.3. He barely made the cutoff. (but he did make it)

 

[tri-man 47]

Huh. 4 x 800m - 3:19, 3:18, 3:15, 3:11. Very surprised and pleased with the speed (would need to slow down for more reps, though). Benefit of rested legs? Using recent down time for lots of 'ups,' squats, and lunges? Getting lots of rest every night with my new, easier work schedule? Whatever, I'll take it. If I feel good after Saturday's relay race, I might resurrect thoughts of the 5K/10K double on October 18.

 

[SteveC702]

So Juxt, would you say the number one quality you look for in a race is a short course?

Number two. Number one is a race that I can get an age group medal AND a finisher medal.

But seriously, how did you get so damn fast? It's not like you were slow when I first started posting in this thread but if I recall, your half PR was only like 1:28. The past 24 months you have been on a nice steady trajectory upward. What do you attribute that to?

My half marathon PR pace is only down by 24 seconds/mile since 2012. I don't think that is THAT much faster, but thanks.

Even though my first marathon was in 2008, I didn't finish my first 5K until 2013. I think one of the biggest factors has been a few seasons of working on 5K speed during non-marathon training times. That has helped quite a bit with tempo runs and MP runs. I used to fail those frequently and now I usually can finish them. This training period the extra mileage and running 7 days a week have certainly helped. My weight is down now too.

So I want to start off this post by saying that despite what many of you have already been seeing on my strava/facebook feed that it's been an extremely f*cking busy summer for me, I have been looking at this thread at least every 2-3 days and gaining a lot of inspiration from all the posts I have seen in here, especially this one that I am highlighting that will pretty much mirror the kind of progress that I have been trying to make myself over the last 3 years, and if all goes to plan, will come to fruition this Sunday at 9:05 AM PST.

Ned PM'd me a couple of days ago after my final tune-up to see if I would be willing to make an announcement about my qualifying attempt this Sunday, I am sometimes somewhat hesitant about these things, but then again it's already pretty well known among my circle of family and friends that I will be taking my first shot at securing a spot in next February's Olympic Marathon trials on Sunday at the Rock n Roll San Jose half marathon (they let you qualify for the marathon trials with a half-marathon time), so I figure I might as well try to get all the good vibes I can get sent my way.

This hasn't been an easy journey, but one that I am glad to have shared with you all. If it doesn't happen this Sunday, I already have 2-3 more backup races lined up to go for it again before the qualifying window closes, but based on my last tune-up run on Tuesday and my history of running about 10s/mi during the race than my tune-up tempo, I am about a 70/30 favorite to punch my ticket to LA this Sunday.

 

[FUBAR]

inspiring as always Steve! we'll be behind you all the way (far behind you, but still there!)

 

[NREC34]

Ran an extra 1/4 mile so I didn't get robbed this time. 93 + 68 = 171 suck index. October 3rd is going to be a cake walk.

Pace dropped every mile but under the circumstances, I am okay

https://www.strava.com/activities/397259333

You are very close to where I went to boot camp and training in the Navy many moons ago. I remember that suck index too in the summer!

 

[Ned]

About as excited as I could ever be for an ibuddy! Go get'm Steve.

 

[Hang 10]

So Juxt, would you say the number one quality you look for in a race is a short course?

Number two. Number one is a race that I can get an age group medal AND a finisher medal.

But seriously, how did you get so damn fast? It's not like you were slow when I first started posting in this thread but if I recall, your half PR was only like 1:28. The past 24 months you have been on a nice steady trajectory upward. What do you attribute that to?

My half marathon PR pace is only down by 24 seconds/mile since 2012. I don't think that is THAT much faster, but thanks.

Even though my first marathon was in 2008, I didn't finish my first 5K until 2013. I think one of the biggest factors has been a few seasons of working on 5K speed during non-marathon training times. That has helped quite a bit with tempo runs and MP runs. I used to fail those frequently and now I usually can finish them. This training period the extra mileage and running 7 days a week have certainly helped. My weight is down now too.

So I want to start off this post by saying that despite what many of you have already been seeing on my strava/facebook feed that it's been an extremely f*cking busy summer for me, I have been looking at this thread at least every 2-3 days and gaining a lot of inspiration from all the posts I have seen in here, especially this one that I am highlighting that will pretty much mirror the kind of progress that I have been trying to make myself over the last 3 years, and if all goes to plan, will come to fruition this Sunday at 9:05 AM PST.

Ned PM'd me a couple of days ago after my final tune-up to see if I would be willing to make an announcement about my qualifying attempt this Sunday, I am sometimes somewhat hesitant about these things, but then again it's already pretty well known among my circle of family and friends that I will be taking my first shot at securing a spot in next February's Olympic Marathon trials on Sunday at the Rock n Roll San Jose half marathon (they let you qualify for the marathon trials with a half-marathon time), so I figure I might as well try to get all the good vibes I can get sent my way.

This hasn't been an easy journey, but one that I am glad to have shared with you all. If it doesn't happen this Sunday, I already have 2-3 more backup races lined up to go for it again before the qualifying window closes, but based on my last tune-up run on Tuesday and my history of running about 10s/mi during the race than my tune-up tempo, I am about a 70/30 favorite to punch my ticket to LA this Sunday.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Yep, good luck SteveC!

 

[gruecd]

Declaration: I am going to run Boston, I'm going to do Pfitz 18/70 starting on 12/14, and in the process I'm going to get (1) fast and (2) in-shape again.

Oh, and SteveC.....GOOD LUCK!!!

 

[ChiefD]

Awesome SteveC, and good luck.

 

[pbm107]

Good luck SteveC.

 

[Juxtatarot]

So I had an epiphany this morning, and I'm pretty sure that I won't be doing the Milwaukee marathon on November 1 and that my pacing gig at Fox Cities next month is going to be my last marathon for a long while. It's just feeling like a job. I still wanna run for fitness, 90-minute weekend long runs, etc., but I have zero desire to do 15- to 20-mile long runs anymore. I honestly doubt I'll even do Boston next year, especially since we'll have two wedding receptions to pay for next fall (Poland and here). Plus this will give me more time to do yoga and strength training and have a much more well-rounded fitness routine.

Declaration: I am going to run Boston, I'm going to do Pfitz 18/70 starting on 12/14, and in the process I'm going to get (1) fast and (2) in-shape again.

Who had 48 days in the pool?

 

[SFBayDuck]

So I had an epiphany this morning, and I'm pretty sure that I won't be doing the Milwaukee marathon on November 1 and that my pacing gig at Fox Cities next month is going to be my last marathon for a long while. It's just feeling like a job. I still wanna run for fitness, 90-minute weekend long runs, etc., but I have zero desire to do 15- to 20-mile long runs anymore. I honestly doubt I'll even do Boston next year, especially since we'll have two wedding receptions to pay for next fall (Poland and here). Plus this will give me more time to do yoga and strength training and have a much more well-rounded fitness routine.

Declaration: I am going to run Boston, I'm going to do Pfitz 18/70 starting on 12/14, and in the process I'm going to get (1) fast and (2) in-shape again.

Who had 48 days in the pool?

Probably FUBAR.

Oh, wait, you mean in the betting pool on Grue changing his mind. Nevermind.

 

[SFBayDuck]

And go SteveC!

 

[NREC34]

It would be really cool to tune into the Olympics next year to root on someone we all sort of know. Good luck Steve!

 

[tri-man 47]

Steve!!! 1:05 or bust. Do it, man, do it.

And gruecd, back in the saddle!

I'm so stoked.

 

[FUBAR]

So I had an epiphany this morning, and I'm pretty sure that I won't be doing the Milwaukee marathon on November 1 and that my pacing gig at Fox Cities next month is going to be my last marathon for a long while. It's just feeling like a job. I still wanna run for fitness, 90-minute weekend long runs, etc., but I have zero desire to do 15- to 20-mile long runs anymore. I honestly doubt I'll even do Boston next year, especially since we'll have two wedding receptions to pay for next fall (Poland and here). Plus this will give me more time to do yoga and strength training and have a much more well-rounded fitness routine.

Declaration: I am going to run Boston, I'm going to do Pfitz 18/70 starting on 12/14, and in the process I'm going to get (1) fast and (2) in-shape again.

Who had 48 days in the pool?

Probably FUBAR.

Oh, wait, you mean in the betting pool on Grue changing his mind. Nevermind.

Thought about you (Duck) on this morning's run. 9 miles on the local hill, it's going to take some work to get faster on the hill. It's gravel, which makes me nervous running back down. Beautiful views make it worthwhile.

This is the first time I've tried to share pictures from flickr,let's see if it works. https://www.flickr.com/photos/136460529@N08/shares/ArZFec

 

[SFBayDuck]

It would be really cool to tune into the Olympics next year to root on someone we all sort of know. Good luck Steve!

Our boy's name included in the Competitor article about the race

 

[Ned]

It would be really cool to tune into the Olympics next year to root on someone we all sort of know. Good luck Steve!

Our boy's name included in the Competitor article about the race

Now that's ####### awesome!

 

[Juxtatarot]

It would be really cool to tune into the Olympics next year to root on someone we all sort of know. Good luck Steve!

Our boy's name included in the Competitor article about the race

Thanks for posting that. I was confused about how the Olympic trial times worked and the article does a great job explaining things. So our hero is shooting for sub 65! Awesome!

 

[igbomb]

Good luck Steve!

 

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Any Ultra Runners/sweaters in here?

Buddy of mine is running the Bear 100 in Utah today.

He is Michael Poole - Bib 224 if anyone cares to sweat him. First leg is pretty brutal with 3200ft elevation gain in 4 miles... he just went through the first aid station about 10 miles in at 3h 08m into the race. Longlonglong way to go....

Shot of Him finishing the Cascade Crest 100 Ultra in 26hrs. It has around the same elevation gain as the Bear 100 (21,000ft) but at a lower altitude. Will be interesting

Race and bag prep last night

 

[Juxtatarot]

I enjoy looking at age and gender world records every once in a while. For half marathons a sub 65 for Steve would best any woman ever (65:09) and would be about the best ever for any man ever that's my age or older (64:51).

And, to brag a bit, looking at my 1:22:36, I'm faster than any kid under 11 ever, any man over 72 or any chick over 56!

 

[FUBAR]

I enjoy looking at age and gender world records every once in a while. For half marathons a sub 65 for Steve would best any woman ever (65:09) and would be about the best ever for any man ever that's my age or older (64:51).

And, to brag a bit, looking at my 1:22:36, I'm faster than any kid under 11 ever, any man over 72 or any chick over 56!

cool, it's not that I'm slow, I'm just young. Can't wait until I'm 75

 

[SFBayDuck]

Any Ultra Runners/sweaters in here?

Buddy of mine is running the Bear 100 in Utah today.

He is Michael Poole - Bib 224 if anyone cares to sweat him. First leg is pretty brutal with 3200ft elevation gain in 4 miles... he just went through the first aid station about 10 miles in at 3h 08m into the race. Longlonglong way to go....

Shot of Him finishing the Cascade Crest 100 Ultra in 26hrs. It has around the same elevation gain as the Bear 100 (21,000ft) but at a lower altitude. Will be interesting

Race and bag prep last night

Nice! I know a few people running that as well. Hope your buddy has a great race. That's a tough race, and it's going to be hot out there this afternoon (90s forecast I think).

For those that have read Born to Run, Jenn Shelton is running. She doesn't race a lot anymore, but until it was broken about a year ago she had the record for the fastest trail 100 by a woman with a 14:57, so she's incredibly talented.

 

[andyjayhawker]

I enjoy looking at age and gender world records every once in a while. For half marathons a sub 65 for Steve would best any woman ever (65:09) and would be about the best ever for any man ever that's my age or older (64:51).

And, to brag a bit, looking at my 1:22:36, I'm faster than any kid under 11 ever, any man over 72 or any chick over 56!

Something that's really interesting to me, is that for both men and women there is a massive drop off from 70 to 71.

Women:

70y121d 1:37:38 Lavinia Petrie (AUS) 13 Sep 1943 12 Jan 2014 Bendigo AUS

71y027d 1:45:28 Melitta Czerwenka (GER) 30 Apr 1930 27 May 2001 Saarlouis GER

Men:

70y046d 1:22:23 Ed Whitlock (CAN) 06 Mar 1931 21 Apr 2001 Grand Island NY USA

71y279d 1:26:32 Joop Ruter (NED) 19 Apr 1933 23 Jan 2005 Maassluis NED

For Men, it's especially strange because Ed kept running (and setting records), but was apparently never able to get anywhere near that 1:22:23 time again.

72y037d 1:28:37 Ed Whitlock (CAN) 06 Mar 1931 12 Apr 2003 Buffalo NY USA

73y043d 1:28:02 Ed Whitlock (CAN) 06 Mar 1931 18 Apr 2004 Aurora ON CAN

There's a similar sized drop off from 76 to 77 for both genders. And from 81 to 82 for both genders. Is there any physiological explanation for this, or is this just a case where if you look for patterns in data you'll inevitably find some.

 

[The_Man]

Kill it, SteveC. What an awesome goal.

Grue, very glad to see you back on that Boston grind.

As for me, I'm about a four-hour Sunday Ticket stint and a six-pack away from achieving Clydesdale status for the first time ever. yay.

But on the bright side, my son has a big invitational XC meet on Saturday - on the legendarily tough course where our own SteveC competed in the Maryland State high school Cross Country championship a few years ago. The_Boy had his first good varsity race there last year and this will be the first real year-over-year comparison to see how much faster he's running now. Also cool is that his 2 best friends from 1st Grade all the way through Middle School are also running at the meet. The one that stayed at public school is a truly outstanding runner and his team is competing in the "Elite" division. The other friend goes to a school in the same private school league as my son - he's also really good - they'll both be in the "Small" school division. Hopefully we can get them all together for a picture.

 

[Sand]

I enjoy looking at age and gender world records every once in a while. For half marathons a sub 65 for Steve would best any woman ever (65:09) and would be about the best ever for any man ever that's my age or older (64:51).

And, to brag a bit, looking at my 1:22:36, I'm faster than any kid under 11 ever, any man over 72 or any chick over 56!

So if 65 is the B standard what is the A standard?

 

[Ned]

I enjoy looking at age and gender world records every once in a while. For half marathons a sub 65 for Steve would best any woman ever (65:09) and would be about the best ever for any man ever that's my age or older (64:51).

And, to brag a bit, looking at my 1:22:36, I'm faster than any kid under 11 ever, any man over 72 or any chick over 56!

So if 65 is the B standard what is the A standard?

It's weird, everything I see is there's no A standard for the HM. Why they chose to not comp the guys that lay down super duper fast HM's is beyond me.

 

[Hang 10]

So I've got a half coming up next Sunday. After the weekend, I'll have had 4 pretty big mileage weeks. (big for me anyway) Averaging about 65+. So the question is, what does a good taper week look like if I'm taking this race somewhat seriously? I had considered using the final week of my marathon plan but I'm not sure I want to drop the miles that much. Suggestions?

 

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Any Ultra Runners/sweaters in here?

Buddy of mine is running the Bear 100 in Utah today.

He is Michael Poole - Bib 224 if anyone cares to sweat him. First leg is pretty brutal with 3200ft elevation gain in 4 miles... he just went through the first aid station about 10 miles in at 3h 08m into the race. Longlonglong way to go....

Shot of Him finishing the Cascade Crest 100 Ultra in 26hrs. It has around the same elevation gain as the Bear 100 (21,000ft) but at a lower altitude. Will be interesting

Race and bag prep last night

Nice! I know a few people running that as well. Hope your buddy has a great race. That's a tough race, and it's going to be hot out there this afternoon (90s forecast I think).

For those that have read Born to Run, Jenn Shelton is running. She doesn't race a lot anymore, but until it was broken about a year ago she had the record for the fastest trail 100 by a woman with a 14:57, so she's incredibly talented.

Good lord that's fast...

Yah hot (90s) today. He just crossed Letham Holllow then Richards Hollow... about 23mi in now and on a 32-34hr pace right now.

Good luck to your friends running as well. I'm always astonished by these ultras....

Apparently last year's bear winner finished just under 19 hours... holding 8min/mile pace for a few several hour long sections. crazy.

 

[Ned]

So I've got a half coming up next Sunday. After the weekend, I'll have had 4 pretty big mileage weeks. (big for me anyway) Averaging about 65+. So the question is, what does a good taper week look like if I'm taking this race somewhat seriously? I had considered using the final week of my marathon plan but I'm not sure I want to drop the miles that much. Suggestions?

Why not? It's not going to wreck your fitness and will leave you nice and fresh for the HM.

 

[Hang 10]

So I've got a half coming up next Sunday. After the weekend, I'll have had 4 pretty big mileage weeks. (big for me anyway) Averaging about 65+. So the question is, what does a good taper week look like if I'm taking this race somewhat seriously? I had considered using the final week of my marathon plan but I'm not sure I want to drop the miles that much. Suggestions?

Why not? It's not going to wreck your fitness and will leave you nice and fresh for the HM.

I don't have a good answer for that really. I guess it was a good idea!

 

[MAC_32]

So I've got a half coming up next Sunday. After the weekend, I'll have had 4 pretty big mileage weeks. (big for me anyway) Averaging about 65+. So the question is, what does a good taper week look like if I'm taking this race somewhat seriously? I had considered using the final week of my marathon plan but I'm not sure I want to drop the miles that much. Suggestions?

Why not? It's not going to wreck your fitness and will leave you nice and fresh for the HM.

I don't have a good answer for that really. I guess it was a good idea!

What is your plan anyway? I took longer to recover from last Saturday's 10K than I wanted, so it's ended up being just a recovery week for me. I want to make sure I'm as ready as possible for my half next Sunday though.

 

[Nigel]

Good luck Steve!

And Grue, pumped that you're running Boston, looking forward to a a pre-race cornhole.

 

[Hang 10]

So I've got a half coming up next Sunday. After the weekend, I'll have had 4 pretty big mileage weeks. (big for me anyway) Averaging about 65+. So the question is, what does a good taper week look like if I'm taking this race somewhat seriously? I had considered using the final week of my marathon plan but I'm not sure I want to drop the miles that much. Suggestions?

Why not? It's not going to wreck your fitness and will leave you nice and fresh for the HM.

I don't have a good answer for that really. I guess it was a good idea!

What is your plan anyway? I took longer to recover from last Saturday's 10K than I wanted, so it's ended up being just a recovery week for me. I want to make sure I'm as ready as possible for my half next Sunday though.

Ive been trying to follow the Pfitzinger 70/18 marathon plan. So race week before my half would be 5 days of running totaling around 30 miles. 45 miles total for the week including the half and a warm-up.

 

[ChiefD]

Been in the mid 80's here this week. So glad the warm air is back.

Have had some good runs, though. Been running some combo runs, where I'll run the first two or so at a relaxed pace, and then finish at MP. I've just been running this based on feel. My body wants to just take off right now, so trying to run 5 or 6 slow just ain't working.

Had a nice one on Wednesday. Temp was around 82. Ran the first two at a 9:44 pace with my HR at 150, then ran 4.5 more at a 9:08 pace with a HR at 165.

Wish I could get a nice string of cool weather for an extended period, just so I can see some dang consistency in my HR numbers relative to pace. As I mentioned before, I think my sweet spot is around a 9:30 pace for the marathon, but who the heck knows.

One thing I've been able to determine is that on the cooler mornings, I've been able to hit paces somewhere between 8:30 and 9:00 with a HR around 162-165. If I'm planning on running a 9:30 ish on race day, that puts my HR in the mid to high 150's probably. Based on my max HR of 195, does that make sense to try and keep it that low?

I don't want to come out too fast and blow up, but I don't want to come out so slow that when I'm done I regret that I left time on the course. Or, do I just go out slow, assess where I am after 5 miles or so, and then go from there?

Just trying to mentally think through this, which for me is dangerous, but I like to prepare as much in my head as I can to help eliminate guesswork on race day.

 

[SFBayDuck]

The 50 Most Influential People in Running, per Runner's World. While Jurek made the list on his own, currently competitive ultrarunners Krar and Greenwood are grouped together as one entry

 

[Ned]

ChiefD - better to start out too slow than too fast! You should be feeling guilty at the halfway mark about going too slow. No matter how slow you go, it's going to be a challenge at 22+.

A great quote I read that's always stuck with me "the marathon is a 20mi warmup for a 10K race"

 

[gruecd]

And Grue, pumped that you're running Boston, looking forward to a a pre-race cornhole.

 

[Nigel]

Chief, I think you think you think too much....just run baby!!!