Okay then. Maybe somewhere between that and Garmin's insanely optimistic one lies the truth. So I still want to run some more, and opt for a hill workout. Probably set the "level" too high as it has me at a 5 degree incline several points, but whatever, it's fine. Then when I try to lengthen my stride a bit the emergency thing comes out. Okay, fine, restart, except that's apparently not an option
Fine, do manual, except manual prevents me from starting above 4.5 mph.
End up doing quick start again and it spends several minutes beeping because I didn't enter my weight for like the 6th time. I don't care about your stupid incorrect calorie estimate! Let me run! Managed to get about 30 minutes in, which is better than nothing I guess. Hoping that I can get done with work stuff early enough tomorrow to actual run outside like functioning humans are meant to...That is AWESOME! GodspeedHaven't checked in on this thread in a while, life/work/kids activities have been getting in the way. Great to see some of the recent results. Quick update on me - only two races on the calendar for 2022. Was going to be only one, but apparently Ironman couldn't fill up the World Championship in St. George so they offered me a slot in February for an early May race. With Kona having been cancelled the last couple of years my wife talked me into racing (shocker) with a super-quick and not-nearly-adequate build. I must say - the St. George course is the hardest I've ever been on, but I survived and finished. My A race for the year, however, after two deferrals and some reschedules, is Kona in early October. For those that don't follow Ironman, the race has been split into two races this year (Thursday, October 6th is primarily the female waves and a couple of older male waves, while Saturday October 8th is the male pros and most of the male waves). I'll be racing in Hawaii on Saturday October 8th - hopefully the race will go off with no issues. It's been a 10+ year journey with many thousands of miles covered in racing/training to get to Kona.
Haven't checked in on this thread in a while, life/work/kids activities have been getting in the way. Great to see some of the recent results. Quick update on me - only two races on the calendar for 2022. Was going to be only one, but apparently Ironman couldn't fill up the World Championship in St. George so they offered me a slot in February for an early May race. With Kona having been cancelled the last couple of years my wife talked me into racing (shocker) with a super-quick and not-nearly-adequate build. I must say - the St. George course is the hardest I've ever been on, but I survived and finished. My A race for the year, however, after two deferrals and some reschedules, is Kona in early October. For those that don't follow Ironman, the race has been split into two races this year (Thursday, October 6th is primarily the female waves and a couple of older male waves, while Saturday October 8th is the male pros and most of the male waves). I'll be racing in Hawaii on Saturday October 8th - hopefully the race will go off with no issues. It's been a 10+ year journey with many thousands of miles covered in racing/training to get to Kona.
Some hotel treadmills (and workout rooms) are just an abomination. I try to stay in nicer hotels as it at least gives you a decent chance to find some workout room which is functional.Hotel treadmill rant for you guys. Darkness forced me inside, so decided to do some cardio before bed. Already knew from previous goonery that the WFI test is a no go as the things are programmed to shut off for safety reasons when your HR hits like 150 (which for me is a warmup). VO2Max test sounds fun. Maxes out at 4.5mph for some reason, ups the incline after 1 minute or so of this nonsense (maybe I'm doing well?), then lets me go slowly for 4 more minutes and spits out... 38.7Okay then. Maybe somewhere between that and Garmin's insanely optimistic one lies the truth. So I still want to run some more, and opt for a hill workout. Probably set the "level" too high as it has me at a 5 degree incline several points, but whatever, it's fine. Then when I try to lengthen my stride a bit the emergency thing comes out. Okay, fine, restart, except that's apparently not an option
Fine, do manual, except manual prevents me from starting above 4.5 mph.
End up doing quick start again and it spends several minutes beeping because I didn't enter my weight for like the 6th time. I don't care about your stupid incorrect calorie estimate! Let me run! Managed to get about 30 minutes in, which is better than nothing I guess. Hoping that I can get done with work stuff early enough tomorrow to actual run outside like functioning humans are meant to...
Give them a go next time you feel like a bit of uptempo. First wear and walk around are odd and distracting with the cushion and look/feel relative to most trainers but the run feel grows on you in my opinion.I bought a pair of Vaporflys today. They didn’t seem particularly fast running for a minute or two on the treadmill but I assume they will be when I give them a try in normal conditions.
LOL - thanks. Usually I multitask and watch them suck while I'm on the trainer.Haven't checked in on this thread in a while, life/work/kids activities have been getting in the way. Great to see some of the recent results. Quick update on me - only two races on the calendar for 2022. Was going to be only one, but apparently Ironman couldn't fill up the World Championship in St. George so they offered me a slot in February for an early May race. With Kona having been cancelled the last couple of years my wife talked me into racing (shocker) with a super-quick and not-nearly-adequate build. I must say - the St. George course is the hardest I've ever been on, but I survived and finished. My A race for the year, however, after two deferrals and some reschedules, is Kona in early October. For those that don't follow Ironman, the race has been split into two races this year (Thursday, October 6th is primarily the female waves and a couple of older male waves, while Saturday October 8th is the male pros and most of the male waves). I'll be racing in Hawaii on Saturday October 8th - hopefully the race will go off with no issues. It's been a 10+ year journey with many thousands of miles covered in racing/training to get to Kona.
So cool - congrats on making it and good luck.
Also, no need to follow our Jackets, they suck - use that time to train.
Congrats you're only a couple days away from the 10 day weather forecast tracking stage.Need Richmond marathon to stop emailing me, busy freaking out over Berlin.
I’ve reached ‘gather data from training log to make me feel better’ stage.
Cloudy with a chance of Märzen (100% chance by midday)Congrats you're only a couple days away from the 10 day weather forecast tracking stage.Need Richmond marathon to stop emailing me, busy freaking out over Berlin.
I’ve reached ‘gather data from training log to make me feel better’ stage.
Don't forget to carb up with some spätzle pre-race!Cloudy with a chance of Märzen (100% chance by midday)
I had a reservation at a place for Sat night that didn’t pass @SteelCurtain translation screening. It was all beer, broth (?), pretzels and spätzle. Dodged a mile 7 *** bullet there.Don't forget to carb up with some spätzle pre-race!Cloudy with a chance of Märzen (100% chance by midday)
That does make me curious about the mental aspect when you're seeing KMs pop up every .6 mile. It's beneficial, right? Those KMs will come quickly.One of the last prep things is try to run in kms to practice. I’ve seen @Zasada do it.
It's faster. Also think in Celsius. It's cooler.One of the last prep things is try to run in kms to practice. I’ve seen @Zasada do it.
Until you get to kilometer 27 and say "Shouldn't we be done by now?"That does make me curious about the mental aspect when you're seeing KMs pop up every .6 mile. It's beneficial, right? Those KMs will come quickly.One of the last prep things is try to run in kms to practice. I’ve seen @Zasada do it.
I put km targets in my watch for the 5k I raced early in the year and I did like seeing the kms buzz and go by ahead of where the miles would buzz me.That does make me curious about the mental aspect when you're seeing KMs pop up every .6 mile. It's beneficial, right? Those KMs will come quickly.One of the last prep things is try to run in kms to practice. I’ve seen @Zasada do it.
Wore gloves this morning. 45 degrees is plenty cold for me. Anything under 50, my hands get super cold so I toss the gloves on.Weather is turning. Going to need to break out the gloves soon.
I'd wear gloves at 45 degrees, too, despite also being totally fine running shirtless at that temp.Wore gloves this morning. 45 degrees is plenty cold for me. Anything under 50, my hands get super cold so I toss the gloves on.Weather is turning. Going to need to break out the gloves soon.
I remember feeling the exact same way when I ran the Warsaw Marathon in 2016.I put km targets in my watch for the 5k I raced early in the year and I did like seeing the kms buzz and go by ahead of where the miles would buzz me.That does make me curious about the mental aspect when you're seeing KMs pop up every .6 mile. It's beneficial, right? Those KMs will come quickly.One of the last prep things is try to run in kms to practice. I’ve seen @Zasada do it.
Thanks for the reminder. I went back and added a couple to the Strava post. Unfortunately it was super foggy that day, so the views weren't as good as they usually are.@gruecd Nice trail run! Please tell me you took some photos -- none posted to Strava!

Thanks for the reminder. I went back and added a couple to the Strava post. Unfortunately it was super foggy that day, so the views weren't as good as they usually are.@gruecd Nice trail run! Please tell me you took some photos -- none posted to Strava!
Speaking of said trail run, that type of "running" really isn't my cup of tea. I like to actually RUN on my runs, not power hike a mile straight uphill and then destroy your quads bombing straight back down.....rinse, repeat.
I fly to Poland on Wednesday night, and I just realized that the Warsaw Marathon is next Sunday...![]()
May as well.I fly to Poland on Wednesday night, and I just realized that the Warsaw Marathon is next Sunday...![]()
Aw man, hope you feel better soon.Thanks for the reminder. I went back and added a couple to the Strava post. Unfortunately it was super foggy that day, so the views weren't as good as they usually are.@gruecd Nice trail run! Please tell me you took some photos -- none posted to Strava!
Speaking of said trail run, that type of "running" really isn't my cup of tea. I like to actually RUN on my runs, not power hike a mile straight uphill and then destroy your quads bombing straight back down.....rinse, repeat. On this particular run, it was relatively cool, and yet I was sweating like crazy (even by my standards), everything felt harder than I thought it should, etc. I felt like an absolute piece of **** afterwards and continued to feel kinda crappy for the next couple of days. Last night I took a home COVID test and tested positive. It's honestly not any worse than any of the bad colds I've had in the past, and I'm actually kinda glad that I have an explanation for Wednesday's sufffestfest besides just being out of shape.

good god that’s insane
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TLDR - 25545 me & 66355 Steel via the Berlin marathon app and maybe online, not sure how the tracking performs on raceday . We’ll go off around 9-930 local time so if you’re up earlyOn a side note - a quick prayer to @bushdocda and @SteelCurtain as they travel overseas for the race. Have safe travels and a great time and race. Cheers.
x is the BQ time to watch.
x.Well that copy/paste code/emoji thing is a lol.3:19x is the BQ time to watch.
Does 3:19 give you plenty of cushion for Boston?
3:19x is the BQ time to watch.
What is your plan on the miles to km? What will you be displaying on the watch? What shoes did you decide to go with? I like your pacing plan, you are setup for a huge PR.Might have been bc I was converting plan from miles to kms.
I don’t know what the crowding/over distance impacts will be so I factored in both into the race plan.
3:19x is the BQ time to watch.
PR watch is under 3:25:51.
Race plan is first 3 miles from 8:00 to 7:45 per as crowd thins. Roll low 7:3x miles through mile 20, take the gradual downhill home in 7:2x for a 3:17x.
You've got this schnitzel.TLDR - 25545 me & 66355 Steel via the Berlin marathon app and maybe online, not sure how the tracking performs on raceday . We’ll go off around 9-930 local time so if you’re up earlyOn a side note - a quick prayer to @bushdocda and @SteelCurtain as they travel overseas for the race. Have safe travels and a great time and race. Cheers.️.
Other notables running - Eliud Kipchogeand Keira D’Amato chasing the female win and record book. Kipchoge seems to have last raced Tokyo in March 2022 (win 2:02:40) so he’s probably been training for the race where he set the world record in 2018.
I’ll head out later today and Steel is already overseas by now. Been trying to shift my wakeups earlier to ease some time zone stuff. Pretty anxious yesterday so that will come and go. It’s an ominous feeling. Might have been bc I was converting plan from miles to kms.
I don’t know what the crowding/over distance impacts will be so I factored in both into the race plan.
3:19x is the BQ time to watch.
PR watch is under 3:25:51.
Race plan is first 3 miles from 8:00 to 7:45 per as crowd thins. Roll low 7:3x miles through mile 20, take the gradual downhill home in 7:2x for a 3:17x.
Fueling with maurten and a cold brew roctane. Prob every 8 or so km. I never seem to take them all so I think I will force at least 4, hopefully 5 to get like 500 kcals dropped in there.
Volume and training runs were solid, would have liked another long run but they were good too. Ancillary work was there to help keep me going. I know I’m stronger so we’ll take it to the course and take the test.
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No.Does 3:19 give you plenty of cushion for Boston?
3:19x is the BQ time to watch.
Thanks for asking - I’m clocking pace in miles and will actively display just that but will be lapping in kms in 5km chunks. So I should be seeing splits in familiar min/mile terms but in the local frequency. I need to test one more time so make sure it works right.What is your plan on the miles to km? What will you be displaying on the watch? What shoes did you decide to go with? I like your pacing plan, you are setup for a huge PR.Might have been bc I was converting plan from miles to kms.
I don’t know what the crowding/over distance impacts will be so I factored in both into the race plan.
3:19x is the BQ time to watch.
PR watch is under 3:25:51.
Race plan is first 3 miles from 8:00 to 7:45 per as crowd thins. Roll low 7:3x miles through mile 20, take the gradual downhill home in 7:2x for a 3:17x.
Great summary and plan @bushdocda! I'm pumped to see you and the Mrs. Dinner on Saturday night should be fun and beers post race will be even better!TLDR - 25545 me & 66355 Steel via the Berlin marathon app and maybe online, not sure how the tracking performs on raceday . We’ll go off around 9-930 local time so if you’re up earlyOn a side note - a quick prayer to @bushdocda and @SteelCurtain as they travel overseas for the race. Have safe travels and a great time and race. Cheers.️.
Other notables running - Eliud Kipchogeand Keira D’Amato chasing the female win and record book. Kipchoge seems to have last raced Tokyo in March 2022 (win 2:02:40) so he’s probably been training for the race where he set the world record in 2018.
I’ll head out later today and Steel is already overseas by now. Been trying to shift my wakeups earlier to ease some time zone stuff. Pretty anxious yesterday so that will come and go. It’s an ominous feeling. Might have been bc I was converting plan from miles to kms.
I don’t know what the crowding/over distance impacts will be so I factored in both into the race plan.
3:19x is the BQ time to watch.
PR watch is under 3:25:51.
Race plan is first 3 miles from 8:00 to 7:45 per as crowd thins. Roll low 7:3x miles through mile 20, take the gradual downhill home in 7:2x for a 3:17x.
Fueling with maurten and a cold brew roctane. Prob every 8 or so km. I never seem to take them all so I think I will force at least 4, hopefully 5 to get like 500 kcals dropped in there.
Volume and training runs were solid, would have liked another long run but they were good too. Ancillary work was there to help keep me going. I know I’m stronger so we’ll take it to the course and take the test.
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Buddy of mine just found out he made it with 3:18+No.Does 3:19 give you plenty of cushion for Boston?
3:19x is the BQ time to watch.
Edit for completeness -
Age group 45 yr old male line is 3:20. Cushion has been weirder past handful so I’ll start with the time and then worry about the cush I’ll ultimately need for 2024.
So 9-9:30 start is 3-3:30 EST ...2-2:30 CST ...12-12:30 a.m. for SFDuck, et al.TLDR - 25545 me & 66355 Steel via the Berlin marathon app and maybe online, not sure how the tracking performs on race day . We’ll go off around 9-930 local time so if you’re up early️.

@xulf I forget where I read it because it's been a long time, but there is some science behind your immune system decreasing amidst peak training. Easier said than done balancing work, family, and training but sufficient rest and stress management are paramount to combat.
