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What is GAP?

Grade Adjusted Pace (GAP)


Grade Adjusted Pace estimates an equivalent pace when running on flat land, allowing the runner to compare hilly and flat runs more easily. Because running uphill requires extra effort, the Grade Adjusted Pace will be faster than the actual pace run. When running downhill, the Grade Adjusted Pace will be slower than the actual pace.

The adjustment generally becomes larger as the grade steepens, although research has shown that the downhill adjustment peaks around -20%, after which it becomes slightly less extreme. Grade Adjusted Pace does not account for terrain differences or the technical difficulty of running downhill. The calculation of Grade Adjusted Pace is inspired by work done by C.T.M Davies and Alberto Minetti studying the effects of grade on the energy cost of running.

 
oh, I guess that brings another question - for 5k or 10k races, how long a warmup is too long?   I know (more or less) how to warmup for longer races but the shorter distances seem like you can warmup longer.  I've "raced" the 2 mile at least twice a year for the past 20, but never really warmed up optimally. 

 
out at 3 today

running clothes are sitting on the office desk next to me. i haven't run since my half race on Sunday. i'm freaking out right now. the next 50 minutes can't go by fast enough.

 
oh, I guess that brings another question - for 5k or 10k races, how long a warmup is too long?   I know (more or less) how to warmup for longer races but the shorter distances seem like you can warmup longer.  I've "raced" the 2 mile at least twice a year for the past 20, but never really warmed up optimally. 
Approximately 2.1 miles with @Ned on a bridge worked best for me.

 
Have a 5k scheduled for Monday as well. Obviously my training has been sporadic, so not sure how to approach this one. My wife is also running, and this will be our first race ever running together. This is the same race where I ran my PR of 22:53 two years ago and finished second in my age group. So I have 2 options the way I see it:

1. Run with my wife. She is pretty slow, but would be just a nice easy run for me.

2. Go balls out and try and snag a medal. I looked at the history of this race, and if I run a sub 26:00 I should be able to get at least 3rd. Which at my current fitness I can do.

I'm thinking #2 at this point. 
I'd say #1; that way you will have conserved enough energy to wipe down the countertops & fridge when you get home.   :2cents:

 
oh, I guess that brings another question - for 5k or 10k races, how long a warmup is too long?   I know (more or less) how to warmup for longer races but the shorter distances seem like you can warmup longer.  I've "raced" the 2 mile at least twice a year for the past 20, but never really warmed up optimally. 
For these shorter races, they say some brief LT and/or race pace segments are also important.  I always try to do a few of them although I have no idea if they actually help me or not.  

As far as too long?  I can't imagine I'd benefit by running more than 3 miles.  I usually run from 1 to 2.

 
The race I am running on Monday is in honor of my neighbor: This Guy.

This is the second time in three years I have run this race and known the honoree. I am humbled and honored to be able to run this race.

 
Grade Adjusted Pace (GAP)


Grade Adjusted Pace estimates an equivalent pace when running on flat land, allowing the runner to compare hilly and flat runs more easily. Because running uphill requires extra effort, the Grade Adjusted Pace will be faster than the actual pace run. When running downhill, the Grade Adjusted Pace will be slower than the actual pace.

The adjustment generally becomes larger as the grade steepens, although research has shown that the downhill adjustment peaks around -20%, after which it becomes slightly less extreme. Grade Adjusted Pace does not account for terrain differences or the technical difficulty of running downhill. The calculation of Grade Adjusted Pace is inspired by work done by C.T.M Davies and Alberto Minetti studying the effects of grade on the energy cost of running.
That's my less preferred definition  ;)

 
Kafka said:
I'd say #1; that way you will have conserved enough energy to wipe down the countertops & fridge when you get home.   :2cents:
Not where I thought this post was going. 

 
mr. furley said:
go run it with a gut full of meat and beer and a head pounding like a jackhammer

few experiences quite like it in life
You are talking about running, right?  @Ned might take that out of context...

 
Ran a half in Madison WI today.  Hadn't done one since last July, but have kept in decent shape during that time.  Weather didn't look great at the start - forecast originally called for thunderstorms - but it cleared up and the temp settled at around 60 degrees at the start.

Hilly course, which I should know but seem to conveniently forget each year.  To set the context, i ran my first full marathon in Fall 2015 and really spent a year or more feeling like my body never recovered completely.  Knee pain, lethargy, etc.

Last spring I did this same race and finished in something like 2:06, which was frustrating.  My PR was 1:59:13, and I felt ok leading into that one.  To miss by that much sucked ###.

So today, I really didn't have any expectations.  Trained hard, felt good the past couple months, switched shoes and have been basically pain free since March/April.  Doing a bit more speed work, but really didn't have a crazy goal today.  

My race partner decided to go for broke and join the 1:50 pace group.  No way in hell was I doing that.  So I lined up by the 2:00 pace group.  Decided I would stick with them as long as possible.

Lots of hills.  Did I mention that already?  There is a decent sized hill at mile 1.  No problem.  Another long, sloping one at mile 5/6.  A bit tougher.  By mile 7/8, I was just holding on as best possible and staying close to the pacers.

Anyone who has done this race, you know about the ##### of a wall (ok, technically it's a hill) a little before mile 11.  I didn't intend to run the hill/wall, but the pacers talked me into it.  So I ran it.  Pretty fast.

I bumped into my running partner after that hill.  She was struggling big time, and "saw me pass her on the hill and got pissed off."  We ran the next mile together.   At this point, the pacers told me I was about 20 seconds behind my PR, with one mile to go.  

I didn't feel like there was anything left in my body......but for whatever reason, I just whispered to myself "#### this ####" and started sprinting.  Not long after, I looked at my watch and was running at a 7:10 pace.  I still had about 0.6 miles to go, and started to worry about collapsing.  Slowed down a little bit, but kept pushing.  Turned the final corner and saw the clock counting at 1:57:40.  Knew that I had started at least 30-45 seconds behind the official clock.    Knew that unless I crawled to the end, I would hit a PR.

Saw my wife and kids a second or two later.  Got another boost.  Crossed the finish line.  Still haven't seen my official time, but it had to be 1:58 or slightly below.  Still can't believe it.  

 
First day of Western States Training Camp yesterday, a modified run on what was supposed to be 30+ miles of the course.  The road was still snowed in, so the buses went as far as they could and then let us out 4 miles from where we were scheduled to start at Robinson Flat.  Kind of fun to trudge through the snow with a few hundred other runners (I posted a couple of pics on Strava), and then we finally came out of it and were back on the course about 8 miles in.

Things went pretty well for the first 20-25 miles or so.  My climbing/power hiking was great, I was feeling good on the flats and downs, and my hydration and fueling were on point all day.  But a couple of days ago I noticed a little pain in the back of my left knee, feels almost like that ligament on the outside/back, and the pain started to come back.  It didn't affect me going up hill, but the downhills started to hurt. I took advantage of my strong climbing legs to keep powering up the final couple of climbs, and finished the 34 miles in just over 8:00, but the downhills were painful and it was a bit of a struggle to try and keep my stride "normal", which I really focused on.  To get a 24-hour finish on race day (a pipe dream for me, but still on my mind) is a 14:22/mile pace for 100 miles so that was my goal for the day, and I was right there at 14:20 yesterday even with the slower downhills in the final 10-12 miles.  

34 miles, 8:07:30, with 5,636' of gain and 8,698' of loss per Training Peaks (strava has funky data for this one, for some reason).

I've been 100% healthy since I started training for this in January, and now we're less than 30 days out and I've got this going on, more than a little discouraging.  I went back and forth last night and this morning about whether to run today, but as today's section was 18 miles of mostly downhill I finally conceded I shouldn't do it.  I've been rolling, icing, taking Advil, bathing in epsom salts, all trying to calm it down.  I'd really like to get out and do the final 20 miles tomorrow, which is mostly rolling terrain, but I'm going to wait and see how it feels.  Was a real bummer though to drive my buddy to the start and see everyone off this morning while I stood there watching, and then headed back to the hotel.

 
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Duck - sounds like a wise decision.  No sense winning the battle and losing the war, as they say.  It doesn't sound like running those final 20 miles would have had any strategic benefit ...nothing you'd really learn from a technical perspective about the course.  

Alex P Keaton - great job ...congrats on the PR!!!  What a gutty finish.  :pickle:   As always when you stop by: :bye:  to Mrs. Keaton and the twins.  (I trust you've seen and shared with her, but make sure she knows I've just finished my second year as a FT faculty member and more personally, have a wonderful 5-mo old grandson to enjoy.  Life is very good.)  Congrats again!  

 
Welp, here goes my Run for the Pineapple 5K write-up. Following the advice of a wise man, the night before I downed about 6 slices of Papa John's Cheeseburger pizza and washed it down with some vodka and ice cream. Woke up at 5:00 am and immediately went to the restroom for relief #1. Drank some beet nitrates and pre-workout and headed out the door, or so I thought. Back to the restroom for relief #2. Finally on the way to the race, or so I thought. Had to pull over at the gas station 2 miles away from the start for relief #3! Is that a new record?

I planned to do a 3 mile warm-up because my marathon training has me doing 10 miles today. Well, I was extremely pressed for time, so I only got in 1. During the warm-up my heart rate was jacked and was struggling to get in an 8-minute mile. I get to the starting line behind all 500 entrants, strollers and all. 

At the start, I had to weave through everyone and get up to about 8th place. I knew about a half mile in that I had nothing in the tank. I passed 2 people in front of me and each mile got progressively worse. I PR'ed and came in 6th overall out of 500 for a chip time of 19:39, 2nd in age group. Really uneventful and painful race that I feel is nowhere close to my capabilities as a runner. I stuck around for the awards and when I got home I went out and ran my last 6 miles to complete my 10 for the day. At least I got in the miles and now I can enjoy the holiday by eating and drinking more. On Friday I ran my best run I've ever ran. After that I've been enjoying myself. I'm sure it will take a while to get back on track for my training but I have to still try and enjoy my down time. Hope everyone has a great day!

 
Welp, here goes my Run for the Pineapple 5K write-up. Following the advice of a wise man, the night before I downed about 6 slices of Papa John's Cheeseburger pizza and washed it down with some vodka and ice cream. Woke up at 5:00 am and immediately went to the restroom for relief #1. Drank some beet nitrates and pre-workout and headed out the door, or so I thought. Back to the restroom for relief #2. Finally on the way to the race, or so I thought. Had to pull over at the gas station 2 miles away from the start for relief #3! Is that a new record?

I planned to do a 3 mile warm-up because my marathon training has me doing 10 miles today. Well, I was extremely pressed for time, so I only got in 1. During the warm-up my heart rate was jacked and was struggling to get in an 8-minute mile. I get to the starting line behind all 500 entrants, strollers and all. 

At the start, I had to weave through everyone and get up to about 8th place. I knew about a half mile in that I had nothing in the tank. I passed 2 people in front of me and each mile got progressively worse. I PR'ed and came in 6th overall out of 500 for a chip time of 19:39, 2nd in age group. Really uneventful and painful race that I feel is nowhere close to my capabilities as a runner. I stuck around for the awards and when I got home I went out and ran my last 6 miles to complete my 10 for the day. At least I got in the miles and now I can enjoy the holiday by eating and drinking more. On Friday I ran my best run I've ever ran. After that I've been enjoying myself. I'm sure it will take a while to get back on track for my training but I have to still try and enjoy my down time. Hope everyone has a great day!
Great run!

As for the bolded - :no: that's an average morning for this wizard. 

 
I am sure this is buried somewhere in this thread, so apologies for being new (I checked for injury links in first post!). Anyway, I think I am dealing with plantar fasciitis. Each day when I wake up I can barely walk and it loosens out throughout the day.  Just started a little over a week ago and I ran through it my first couple runs, but didnt even attempt to run this weekend until this morning because of it and the pain was just too sharp.  Ive now walked around some and its loosening up just like it has previous days but its really bothersome and Im walking with a noticeable limp.  I have a compression ankle brace I bought, so hopefully that will help and I have done some googling as to other things to do to try to help it, but does anyone here have a cure that they swear by?

And awesome updates @Alex P Keaton @SFBayDuck And @JShare87  Reading stuff like that is awesome and inspirational.  Really wish I checked this thread out years ago!

 
2017 Amy Thompson Run for Daylight 5K Race Report

This is a race I ran two years ago. It's a race in honor of Amy Thompson, who was shot many years ago in the head. She survived three years before passing away. Since the first race in 1989, it has raised over $1.5 million dollars to support Brain Injury research and support in Kansas City.

Two years ago I ran because I knew the honoree, and this year was the same. Every year they honor someone who has survived a traumatic brain injury. This years honoree is Zeke Crozier, who is my neighbor and retired veteran of our military. He is retired because of his brain injury. His kids go to the same school as mine.

As I posted the other day, his story is better told here. He's a good man with a good family.

He also started a business as a form of art therapy a few years ago. He makes custom art pieces out of bottle caps. I wanted you all to see some of his examples, because it really is amazing stuff:

Example 1

Example 2

Example 3

Example 4

Really incredible stuff he is doing and raising a lot of awareness for wounded vets.

Pre-Race

Just as @JShare87, I decided to prep for this race yesterday by drinking about 7 beers, grilling some awesome brats, eating some ribs, and making my famous french fries. We had a last minute BBQ with some friends, so as good as my intentions were about holding back, the beautiful day and great company lead me down the path of holiday gluttony.

Consequently, this morning was a little more explosive than normal before a race. Got up and had my normal peanut butter toast and half a banana, and then the fireworks started. 4 movements later and we were out the door.

As I mentioned before, my wife was running as well, so there was some debate on if I would run with her or try and medal in this thing. It's not a huge race - maybe 800 people or so, but I knew going in that if I could post a sub 25 or 26 I had a good chance at hitting at least third. My plan yesterday was to try and medal. My plan when I woke up was to try and finish without puking. So as I walked out the door, my wife asked if I was bringing any music to listen to. I said no, as I never listen to music during a race.

As we are driving to the race, we talk about how we are going to run, and I said I'm not sure yet. Here is how the conversation went:

Me: I think I am going to try and medal.

Her: Well, I wish you would have said something. I would have brought my phone so I can listen to music! :rant:

Me: What does that have to do with me?

Her: I asked if you were bringing music!

Me: I never bring music. How the heck was I supposed to know that me bringing music or not bringing music had anything to do with you bringing music? :confused:

Her: :rant:

So now of course I'm thinking: "looks like I'm running slow today." :kicksrock:

The Race

So we get there and see Zeke and his family, say our hellos and walk around just getting ready. About 20 minutes before the race, we walk toward the corral and I tell her I need to warm up, so I run a slow half mile or so just to get the legs and heart moving. I come back and as we walk to the corral and say:

"I'm going to the front."

Her: Well, ok. Guess I'll stay back here." :angry:

Me: OK. Good luck! (kisses her and slinks off)

The gun goes off and here we go.

Mile 1. 7:17 Pace, HR 148

I'd forgotten how hilly this course is. It starts out with a really short downhill but is pretty much uphill for the first two miles. There are a couple of spots where it levels off, but the short downhills are quickly gone with another uphill on the horizon. I wanted to start at the front because I knew this race had a lot of kids. I also wanted to see who was in front of me that looked about my age. I counted 3-4 guys that fit the bill.

Mile 2. 8:29 Pace, HR 187.

I'm starting to hurt a little bit here. I wasn't getting passed by any old guys, so I knew I was in a pretty decent spot. I just needed to hold it as best as I could here because after mile two it is pretty much downhill to the finish. I also hit 195 on the HR during this stretch, which is pretty close to max for me.

Mile 3.1. 7:59 Pace. HR 188.

I come off of mile two, and I'm gasping here. The effects of the brats and beer and peppers and onions are really showing here. But I tried the best I could to put on the gas before the gas got put on me. I start feeling pretty good coming down the hill, and for the last half mile or so I am hitting about a 7:07 pace. At the end, you turn a corner and the last .2 is uphill (of course). I notice 2 of my earlier age group targets in front of me and threw the rest I had into the finish. Ran a 6:26 up that little hill and passed them easily before the finish.

The Results

I finished in 24:36, which was good enough for 2nd in my age group. So I indeed made it to the medal category. This is about 2:00 off my PR, but for the little training I have done I am really happy with this result.

I walk down to the finish line, and my wife is starting to come up the hill. She is looking strong so I give her the 'ol cheer and she finishes up. She was at 28:38, which is a PR for her of about 2:00 or so. She finished 5th in her age group, which had a lot of entrants (she is 11 years younger than me).

Anyway, a good day for both. She was happy for my medal and really happy with her time. Now it's time to have a beer and some food and enjoy a beautiful day here in KC.

A day we would not be able to enjoy with the many sacrifices of our military. I pray for them and their families every day.

 
Sitting here cooling down after rolling through the trails at Patapsco state park for a few miles and laughing at all the people who are not where they thought they'd come out. I got partially lost a handful of times so I can't laugh too hard. Fun time pounding through the mud puddles - happy to have some more fitness and strength in my legs than last summers couple of trail efforts. Curious to see how my body feels tomorrow and stoked for trail HM in 2 weeeks. 

Enjoy the holiday y'all. 

 
2017 Amy Thompson Run for Daylight 5K Race Report

This is a race I ran two years ago. It's a race in honor of Amy Thompson, who was shot many years ago in the head. She survived three years before passing away. Since the first race in 1989, it has raised over $1.5 million dollars to support Brain Injury research and support in Kansas City.

Two years ago I ran because I knew the honoree, and this year was the same. Every year they honor someone who has survived a traumatic brain injury. This years honoree is Zeke Crozier, who is my neighbor and retired veteran of our military. He is retired because of his brain injury. His kids go to the same school as mine.

As I posted the other day, his story is better told here. He's a good man with a good family.

He also started a business as a form of art therapy a few years ago. He makes custom art pieces out of bottle caps. I wanted you all to see some of his examples, because it really is amazing stuff:

Example 1

Example 2

Example 3

Example 4

Really incredible stuff he is doing and raising a lot of awareness for wounded vets.

Pre-Race

Just as @JShare87, I decided to prep for this race yesterday by drinking about 7 beers, grilling some awesome brats, eating some ribs, and making my famous french fries. We had a last minute BBQ with some friends, so as good as my intentions were about holding back, the beautiful day and great company lead me down the path of holiday gluttony.

Consequently, this morning was a little more explosive than normal before a race. Got up and had my normal peanut butter toast and half a banana, and then the fireworks started. 4 movements later and we were out the door.

As I mentioned before, my wife was running as well, so there was some debate on if I would run with her or try and medal in this thing. It's not a huge race - maybe 800 people or so, but I knew going in that if I could post a sub 25 or 26 I had a good chance at hitting at least third. My plan yesterday was to try and medal. My plan when I woke up was to try and finish without puking. So as I walked out the door, my wife asked if I was bringing any music to listen to. I said no, as I never listen to music during a race.

As we are driving to the race, we talk about how we are going to run, and I said I'm not sure yet. Here is how the conversation went:

Me: I think I am going to try and medal.

Her: Well, I wish you would have said something. I would have brought my phone so I can listen to music! :rant:

Me: What does that have to do with me?

Her: I asked if you were bringing music!

Me: I never bring music. How the heck was I supposed to know that me bringing music or not bringing music had anything to do with you bringing music? :confused:

Her: :rant:

So now of course I'm thinking: "looks like I'm running slow today." :kicksrock:

The Race

So we get there and see Zeke and his family, say our hellos and walk around just getting ready. About 20 minutes before the race, we walk toward the corral and I tell her I need to warm up, so I run a slow half mile or so just to get the legs and heart moving. I come back and as we walk to the corral and say:

"I'm going to the front."

Her: Well, ok. Guess I'll stay back here." :angry:

Me: OK. Good luck! (kisses her and slinks off)

The gun goes off and here we go.

Mile 1. 7:17 Pace, HR 148

I'd forgotten how hilly this course is. It starts out with a really short downhill but is pretty much uphill for the first two miles. There are a couple of spots where it levels off, but the short downhills are quickly gone with another uphill on the horizon. I wanted to start at the front because I knew this race had a lot of kids. I also wanted to see who was in front of me that looked about my age. I counted 3-4 guys that fit the bill.

Mile 2. 8:29 Pace, HR 187.

I'm starting to hurt a little bit here. I wasn't getting passed by any old guys, so I knew I was in a pretty decent spot. I just needed to hold it as best as I could here because after mile two it is pretty much downhill to the finish. I also hit 195 on the HR during this stretch, which is pretty close to max for me.

Mile 3.1. 7:59 Pace. HR 188.

I come off of mile two, and I'm gasping here. The effects of the brats and beer and peppers and onions are really showing here. But I tried the best I could to put on the gas before the gas got put on me. I start feeling pretty good coming down the hill, and for the last half mile or so I am hitting about a 7:07 pace. At the end, you turn a corner and the last .2 is uphill (of course). I notice 2 of my earlier age group targets in front of me and threw the rest I had into the finish. Ran a 6:26 up that little hill and passed them easily before the finish.

The Results

I finished in 24:36, which was good enough for 2nd in my age group. So I indeed made it to the medal category. This is about 2:00 off my PR, but for the little training I have done I am really happy with this result.

I walk down to the finish line, and my wife is starting to come up the hill. She is looking strong so I give her the 'ol cheer and she finishes up. She was at 28:38, which is a PR for her of about 2:00 or so. She finished 5th in her age group, which had a lot of entrants (she is 11 years younger than me).

Anyway, a good day for both. She was happy for my medal and really happy with her time. Now it's time to have a beer and some food and enjoy a beautiful day here in KC.

A day we would not be able to enjoy with the many sacrifices of our military. I pray for them and their families every day.
You're winning on a lot of fronts here.  Congrats on a great race!  (And marrying a younger woman)

 
Seeing these rave reports and friends on strava including the local cotton row makes me wish I had been motivated to tackle the cotton row 10k today. :kicksrock:

 
Duck - sounds like a wise decision.  No sense winning the battle and losing the war, as they say.  It doesn't sound like running those final 20 miles would have had any strategic benefit ...nothing you'd really learn from a technical perspective about the course.  

Alex P Keaton - great job ...congrats on the PR!!!  What a gutty finish.  :pickle:   As always when you stop by: :bye:  to Mrs. Keaton and the twins.  (I trust you've seen and shared with her, but make sure she knows I've just finished my second year as a FT faculty member and more personally, have a wonderful 5-mo old grandson to enjoy.  Life is very good.)  Congrats again!  
Thanks tri-man!  Mrs APK says hi and congrats on grandkid!   Crazy how life changes.....faculty.....awesome!

This last run has re-energized me to train even harder than I have been.   Really want to do another full this year, but would also like to do a bit of speed work this summer.   Just enjoying running again.

 
@Alex P Keaton - Way to dig deep and get it!  Race reports like yours are inspiring to me in that when you think you've got nothing left, you're typically wrong.  Kick ###!
@JShare87 - A PR following cheeseburger pizza, vodka, and ice cream?!  The thrice bathroom visit was the least surprising part of that report.  Love it.   :lmao:

@ChiefD - Nice race, and sounds like an incredibly meaningful cause.  Even better that you get to experience that with your wife as well.

@SFBayDuck - You know, what I've admired most about your WS training hasn't been how on point and dedicated to your training plan that you've been...and you've seemed to be nailing that.  It's that you've shown a willingness throughout to listen to your body and not push to the point of doing something that leads to long-term injury.  So don't get discouraged now.  Let that philosophy continue to guide you these last 30 day and trust that all you've done thus far will lead to success on June 24th, because it will.  The hay is in the barn at this stage. Enjoy that day...we're all confident you'll get it done.
 
Guess I was unaware of everyone's restroom abilities. Thought I was one of the great ones. 
You haven't lived until you do a runner trot mile 6 of an abbreviated mlr to the nearest creek bed because you thought avocado egg salad for lunch was a good idea.

 
@Alex P Keaton - Way to dig deep and get it!  Race reports like yours are inspiring to me in that when you think you've got nothing left, you're typically wrong.  Kick ###!
@JShare87 - A PR following cheeseburger pizza, vodka, and ice cream?!  The thrice bathroom visit was the least surprising part of that report.  Love it.   :lmao:

@ChiefD - Nice race, and sounds like an incredibly meaningful cause.  Even better that you get to experience that with your wife as well.

@SFBayDuck - You know, what I've admired most about your WS training hasn't been how on point and dedicated to your training plan that you've been...and you've seemed to be nailing that.  It's that you've shown a willingness throughout to listen to your body and not push to the point of doing something that leads to long-term injury.  So don't get discouraged now.  Let that philosophy continue to guide you these last 30 day and trust that all you've done thus far will lead to success on June 24th, because it will.  The hay is in the barn at this stage. Enjoy that day...we're all confident you'll get it done.
Great catching up on all these race reports. Great job gents!  Hope ChiefD enjoys sleeping on the couch tonight. 

 
This last run has re-energized me to train even harder than I have been.   Really want to do another full this year, but would also like to do a bit of speed work this summer.   Just enjoying running again.
With the kids getting old enough to appreciate what you're doing, you could consider focusing on 5Ks and other shorter distances for a while ...shorter (though more intense) training, and easy for the family to come out and cheer you on!

 
Coming down to the wire for the 6/11 HIM.  Primary focus was longer bike rides:

M: (am) Run - 5 miles w. 3 x 1 mile @ 7:11, 7:05, 6:41 ...(pm) Swim - 1,200 yds (24 laps) w. 15 x 50 yds @ :52

T: Bike (indoors) - 85 minutes at good resistance and speed

W: misc lunges, squats, stretching

Th: Bike - 2 hours.  Speed isn't there, but hopeful some if it comes quickly.

F: Bike - just 20 minutes before the rain: Accelerations

S: Bike 2 1/2 hours.  Didn't push it on a slighted crowded trail, just doing time in the saddle

S: (am) - stretch/yoga ...(mid) Run - 6 miles with some long pushes ...(pm) dumbbells

Hoping for a couple long rides, ideally 3 hours, this next week.  Doing the long rides on a nice 7.3 mile paved loop (Busse Woods, near Woodfield Mall), so I can keep a continuous motion going.  

 
 
@SFBayDuck - You know, what I've admired most about your WS training hasn't been how on point and dedicated to your training plan that you've been...and you've seemed to be nailing that.  It's that you've shown a willingness throughout to listen to your body and not push to the point of doing something that leads to long-term injury.  So don't get discouraged now.  Let that philosophy continue to guide you these last 30 day and trust that all you've done thus far will lead to success on June 24th, because it will.  The hay is in the barn at this stage. Enjoy that day...we're all confident you'll get it done.
Thanks, appreciate that.  With this year being my first real effort to map out and following a training plan complete with actual workouts (as opposed to the rough outline I've typically done), it's been tough at times to force myself to modify on the fly.  But I have been trying to be smart....or at least not dumb.

After resting up yesterday and rolling, icing, epsoming, advilling, curcumining, and throwing in some red wine for good measure, the knee was feeling a little sore but better this morning so I decided to do the final WS100 training run today - 2 miles down a dirt road then picking up the course for the final 20 miles or so.  It was tested right off the bat with the downhill fire road and felt ok, so I was encouraged.  We then hit the first minor climb of the day, and my hr was through the roof and I was struggling - not a good sign at all, but I figured I was just tired (quads were pretty sore, for sure).  But then I found a groove, and churned out one of the best 20+ mile training runs I've ever had!  About 14 miles in we hit the section of the course I've never been on before, it was good to get that course knowledge in.  There is a good climb starting about 3 miles from the finish that I purposely ran the gradual beginning of instead of hiking - figured if I need to run that on race day I should have it in my brain that it is "runnable".  Then it gets steeper and I got into a great power hiking groove, legs felt like pistons just eating up that climb and passing a bunch of people. It was a good 80+ degrees and exposed at that point - good practice for race day when it'll be much warmer than that throughout the first day.

The last 1/2 mile or so is downhill on road, and as we rounded a corner and could see Placer High School (the finish) I started to get choked up.  I laughed at myself a little and said to the guy running next to me, "is it weird I'm choked up now, when this doesn't count?"  He said, "no, I don't think so," and then a woman working in her front yard nearby said "Yeah, it's a little weird," with a smile as we passed by.  

Again some weird Strava data, but according to Training Peaks (which matches what my watch said at the end) it was 21.8 miles, 2,667' of gain, 3,458' of loss, in 4:24:54.  

After being in the car for three hours the knee stiffened up a bit, but it's definitely better than it was on Saturday night.  I have to fly to Minneapolis for work tomorrow so I'll take a couple of days off and see how it comes around before deciding what to do next.  The plan was for one more long (4-5 hour) day this weekend and then head into taper, but I'll likely adjust that down a bit depending on how it comes around.

 
Great racing this weekend, boys! @ChiefD @JShare87 @Alex P Keaton

In case you guys ever wondered how to have a miserable race I think I've got the formula down. 

Step 1: Don't run very much

Step 2: Have unrealistic expectations

Step 3: Add heat

PROFIT 

No but seriously, I think I told you guys that I was really enjoying just racing and not too terribly worried about times/prs...well that was kinda true but not really. The competitiveness is still there. I still have expectations going into all these races. Hell, I have expectations of myself just doing a workout. So going into this 10K , I was really hoping to break 40 minutes. I figured that if I get somewhere in that ballpark the age group awards etc would take care of themselves. 

The weather forecast looked great. High 60's and light wind. The one issue I saw though was that temp was going to jump up significantly around race time. It did. Also, light wind is great when it's cold but not so great when it's warm. The temp was in the 70s but it felt like 80+ because the breeze was nonexistent. 

Originally I thought the best race plan would be run around 6:30ish and then hope to have enough left in the tank for a negative split... BAM 39:59 or whatever. Do a couple mile warm up with some strides and then game time. Gun goes off and I try to keep the pace conservative. And I did...sort of. First split was 6:25 but I could tell pretty early that this was far from the comfortable start I was hoping for. I had hit the pace that I wanted but the effort level was too high. Mile 2 I realize that running a 10K was a stupid decision. My pace is slipping and I'm already hurting. 

Around the halfway point I'm really just praying that my pace doesn't completely deteriorate and I can keep it under 7 min miles. Miles 3-5 are all around 6:45ish. The one positive is that I'm not the only one struggling. Believe it or not I wasn't fading as bad as most the competition around me. By mile 5 I saw that a friend of mine in my age group was coming into range where I may be able to reel him in. I feel like #### but this keeps me going. I manage to pick up the pace slightly to the finish and pass him (he was currently in 3rd place in the 35-39 age group) and one other runner to finish in 40:49. (3/23 age group and 23/474 overall) 

I'm sure this report is a glass is half empty kinda post but that's just my take away. Sure, I shouldn't expect to run much better than I did but it doesn't seem that long ago where I was running half marathons at faster paces. Anyway, thanks for listening to me ##### and moan. 

 
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@Hang 10 - Podium!  You may be disappointed, but it looks to me like sans heat you would've been sub-40, which is incredible IMO if you didn't feel on point with training.  Nice work and comical recap.   :thumbup:

 
You haven't lived until you do a runner trot mile 6 of an abbreviated mlr to the nearest creek bed because you thought avocado egg salad for lunch was a good idea.
I almost broke into a Baptist Church this morning to poop.  But nobody was there (and I thought better of actually breaking in) so I slowly trotted to a construction site to visit the porta-potty.  if not for being in a neighborhood where I actually know people, I'd have dropped trow in the street. :X

 
I almost broke into a Baptist Church this morning to poop.  But nobody was there (and I thought better of actually breaking in) so I slowly trotted to a construction site to visit the porta-potty.  if not for being in a neighborhood where I actually know people, I'd have dropped trow in the street. :X
I have a great poop route for when I do my long runs. Basically 7 miles out and 7 miles back, and I pass the following toilets:

7-11

Home Depot

(2) McDonalds

Ace Hardware

Grocery Store

I think I have tried every one of them as some point. Home Depot is my favorite. 

 
I almost broke into a Baptist Church this morning to poop.  But nobody was there (and I thought better of actually breaking in) so I slowly trotted to a construction site to visit the porta-potty.  if not for being in a neighborhood where I actually know people, I'd have dropped trow in the street. :X
Your avi is incredibly appropriate when reading this post.

 
I have a great poop route for when I do my long runs. Basically 7 miles out and 7 miles back, and I pass the following toilets:

7-11

Home Depot

(2) McDonalds

Ace Hardware

Grocery Store

I think I have tried every one of them as some point. Home Depot is my favorite. 
I think you just came up with a new feature for Strava. 

 
I have a great poop route for when I do my long runs. Basically 7 miles out and 7 miles back, and I pass the following toilets:

7-11

Home Depot

(2) McDonalds

Ace Hardware

Grocery Store

I think I have tried every one of them as some point. Home Depot is my favorite. 
luckily we have a good amount of construction going right now along my usual routes so we have portapotties throughout.  But on occasion I'll visit McDonald's or Publix.  

 

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