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Thanks for the book suggestion - will check it out. As for the gel - I'll have to check, my guess would be no as I'm trying to keep carbs <20g.
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Nigel
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I had a weird heart rate acceleration halfway through my ride this morning . Was cruising in the 140s when it suddenly spiked over 200 for around 30 sec during a steady, moderate effort, then dropped just as sharply sharply back to the 140s. My max HR is 175. I'm sure it's done this before, symptomatic of why they want me in for another ablation, but first time I really felt it and had the HR monitor on to verify it. Freaked me out a little but not overly concerned.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Grand Rapids Triathlon Half-Ironman report
6:25:34
4th of 9 in AG; 149 of 214 male; 197 of 314 overall
Two reflections:
First, five months wasn't really adequate time to transition from a pure running focus, particularly marathoning, to triathloning ...and a HIM at that. (Add in a two month layoff in Nov/Dec to rest the heel.) I could have used much of the time just to rebuild upper body strength for the swim and specific leg strength for the bike. But I knew I was pushing limits by jumping into a HIM as my first tri in ten years.
Second, tri-man ain't got no tri-bike to compete with the HIM crowd. Looking around the transition area, my old Fuji road bike was probably in the bottom 5% of bike quality. This doesn't bother me - I'm not committed enough to tri's to drop $1K-3K on a bike - but it certainly affects my ability to compete.
The race:
I drove to Grand Rapids and our summer cottage on Friday night for the Sunday race. This allowed me to catch a lake swim on Saturday morning - my only open water swim before the event (a serious gap in my training). Went to the site 25 minutes away to get checked in midday Saturday, drove part of the bike course, then just tried to relax back at the cottage. Both sisters and their spouses swung by, so that helped take my mind off the race for a while. Got up race morning at 4:30 am, and the routines were fine. With a 7:05 am start, I got to the site around 6 am and comfortably got everything set up in the transition area. The transition area was long - they closed a street and stretched it out with racks for sprint, then Olympic distance, then the HIM. Fortunately, the HIM was nearest the bike exit. Still good time, so caught a porta-potty then hung around for the start. Nerves were generally quite good ...for the moment. Let me say, too, that I chose not to wear my Garmin! What would it gain me except stress? I did have it in transition, so I could see cumulative time after the swim and bike, which was mildly helpful. I didn't miss it on the course.
Swim - 1.2 miles. 47:14 (2:26 per 100), 197 of 214 male
Ugh. Ugly. First wave of < age 39 males took off at 7 am. The age 40+ males entered the water for a start five minutes later. The swim was in a wide river back-up behind a small dam. Water wasn't too clear, but not bad. No currents to speak of. Sun wasn't an issue. But as we took off, I believe I had a panic attack. I tried to start nearer the back, but still encountered some of the mosh pit effect and just couldn't control my breathing. I know it can take a few minutes to settle into a rhythm, but it wasn't happening. I tried to swim slow and easy with good breathing, but I just couldn't connect. This is one the big challenges of triathlons - it's just bang! ..you're in it big time from the start. The course bent a bit to the right, so I stayed right (swimming the tangent), and after several minutes I realized it actually was shallow enough that I could stand up and walk for a minute. Whew! This was enough to kind of settle me down, and I swam the rest of the way OK. It's just a long swim. I was aware that despite all the particulars I focused on in the pool (hand drive through to the hips, good two kick cycle, body rotation), I was just swimming and the technique wasn't very good. Over the final few hundred yards, the calves took turn, or in tandem, cramping quite badly, so I had to just drag them along. Volunteers helped us step up a cement boat ramp to exit the water. They also had wetsuit strippers, and my guy did great - "Back to me! (unzip) Hands by your side! (top yanked down) On your butt! (suit pulled off)" It moved. I saw the main race clock, and I estimated my time at around 45-46 minutes. Two keys at this point: First, I knew that a slow swim wasn't too costly in terms of time. I'd hoped for maybe 40 minutes, but an extra five minutes wasn't a big deal with a full day ahead. Second, despite the challenges, my mind and body were actually in a good place. I was excited to push on.
T1 - 6:43
I did stop at a porta-potty in the transition area ...kind of pain in a one-piece tri-suit. (Waiting to start the swim, in tri-suit and wetsuit, I just peed away.) I didn't rush the transition. They seemed to have grouped us age groupers, and I noticed a couple bikes still in the racks. One AGer was just leaving, and we talked briefly. I caught him 20 miles later. During transition, I had a gel and a big dose of Accelerade drink.
Bike - 56 miles. 3:16:03 (17.1 mph), 168 of 214 male
The course was generally flat, but we did have rather strong (~15 mph) SW winds to deal with. Miles 1-15: Mostly a straight shot east, with some roll over the first several miles then very flat. I held a good, big-ring gear and cruised uncomfortably comfortable. Miles 16-19: This was a bit hilly (some out-of-the-seat ascents) and an uphill trend, but it still went well. Miles 20-28: This took a turn south and then west to the turnaround. While flat, it had a mild ascent to it as we moved away from the river. Plus, we were going into the stiff winds with lots of open fields around us. This was a slog in lower gears. I just pushed along, hoping that after the turnaround I'd be in decent shape and able to resume my speed again. And that's what happened. Reversing 20-28 went great with the winds behind and the slight downslope over several miles to the turn by the river. Throughout, I munched on a Clif Bar and drank Accelerade and Gatorade. I also smashed down half a banana from an aid station. Final 19 miles: A turn west headed us back toward transition, but it also turned us back into the wind. With more trees, this wasn't quite as bad. I actually held pace rather well and passed several others in the final miles. A couple of gels helped keep me going. This leg was the only one that really met my expectations. I squeezed in a few weeks of intense training through the week before the race, and it paid off. I would have loved to be faster, but given the bike and conditions, this was OK with a solid finish.
T2 - 4:59
Kind of slow. First equipment malfunction - my sunglasses broke in half as I took them off to remove my bike helmet. Not a big deal, but irritating mid-race. I grabbed my fuel belt with two containers of Accelerade and a banana, which I ate quickly as I moved out of transition.
Run - 13.1 miles. 2:10:36 (9:58/mile), 101 of 214 male
A lot of mixed feelings about the run. This should be my place to shine, and I suppose the top half finish of the men reflects some of that. But the run/walk process was frustrating. What could I do, though? The temp had climbed into the high 80s and the sun was burning bright around midday. My mind was in a good place, and my stride was really strong (other racers, volunteers, and spectators commented on it). But I knew my HR was getting too high as I ran for any length of time. So I had to start taking too-frequent (if short) walk breaks. It got to the point that I'd always run through the sun and then walk in the occasional shade. Most telling was a half-mile stretch after the turnaround in the out-and-back course where we ran on a shaded dirt road through some forest. I ran this whole stretch with relative ease. But then, back in the sun, the difficulties began again. I also had equipment malfunction #2 - I hadn't properly put the top on one of my fuel containers, and my Accelerade had all splashed out. Very depressing. The good news is that I passed an AGer around mile 7 (on that dirt road) and another around mile 9.5. A turnaround at mile 10 put me on the road to the finish. However, after that second pass, and not having seen similar race numbers in front of me at all (=more AGers), I didn't feel motivated to drive hard to the finish. I properly guessed that I was probably about 4th in the AG. The next two were about 20 minutes in front of me (due to stronger swims and biking).
After the finish, a volunteer guy with a hose soaked me down really good. I absolutely devoured an ice cold bottle of water. I then limped back to the boat ramp and sat in the edge of the river for a while, at which point everything cramped back up again. But I slowly retrieved my gear and managed to get back to the car for the drive home.
FInal thought: I like the triathlon challenge. It's pretty crazy to go through all that, and I'm proud to have done it. But those swim starts are not enjoyable, although I could have (should have) just stood still for 20 seconds to let the crowd get going. And as mentioned, it's hard to compete with my old bike, although this really is more about challenging myself than racing others. So the verdict's out about more tri's. I'll see what routines I settle into, now, and where my focus is in next winter's training. It'll all depend to some extent on my heel and the bone spur.
6:25:34
4th of 9 in AG; 149 of 214 male; 197 of 314 overall
Two reflections:
First, five months wasn't really adequate time to transition from a pure running focus, particularly marathoning, to triathloning ...and a HIM at that. (Add in a two month layoff in Nov/Dec to rest the heel.) I could have used much of the time just to rebuild upper body strength for the swim and specific leg strength for the bike. But I knew I was pushing limits by jumping into a HIM as my first tri in ten years.
Second, tri-man ain't got no tri-bike to compete with the HIM crowd. Looking around the transition area, my old Fuji road bike was probably in the bottom 5% of bike quality. This doesn't bother me - I'm not committed enough to tri's to drop $1K-3K on a bike - but it certainly affects my ability to compete.
The race:
I drove to Grand Rapids and our summer cottage on Friday night for the Sunday race. This allowed me to catch a lake swim on Saturday morning - my only open water swim before the event (a serious gap in my training). Went to the site 25 minutes away to get checked in midday Saturday, drove part of the bike course, then just tried to relax back at the cottage. Both sisters and their spouses swung by, so that helped take my mind off the race for a while. Got up race morning at 4:30 am, and the routines were fine. With a 7:05 am start, I got to the site around 6 am and comfortably got everything set up in the transition area. The transition area was long - they closed a street and stretched it out with racks for sprint, then Olympic distance, then the HIM. Fortunately, the HIM was nearest the bike exit. Still good time, so caught a porta-potty then hung around for the start. Nerves were generally quite good ...for the moment. Let me say, too, that I chose not to wear my Garmin! What would it gain me except stress? I did have it in transition, so I could see cumulative time after the swim and bike, which was mildly helpful. I didn't miss it on the course.
Swim - 1.2 miles. 47:14 (2:26 per 100), 197 of 214 male
Ugh. Ugly. First wave of < age 39 males took off at 7 am. The age 40+ males entered the water for a start five minutes later. The swim was in a wide river back-up behind a small dam. Water wasn't too clear, but not bad. No currents to speak of. Sun wasn't an issue. But as we took off, I believe I had a panic attack. I tried to start nearer the back, but still encountered some of the mosh pit effect and just couldn't control my breathing. I know it can take a few minutes to settle into a rhythm, but it wasn't happening. I tried to swim slow and easy with good breathing, but I just couldn't connect. This is one the big challenges of triathlons - it's just bang! ..you're in it big time from the start. The course bent a bit to the right, so I stayed right (swimming the tangent), and after several minutes I realized it actually was shallow enough that I could stand up and walk for a minute. Whew! This was enough to kind of settle me down, and I swam the rest of the way OK. It's just a long swim. I was aware that despite all the particulars I focused on in the pool (hand drive through to the hips, good two kick cycle, body rotation), I was just swimming and the technique wasn't very good. Over the final few hundred yards, the calves took turn, or in tandem, cramping quite badly, so I had to just drag them along. Volunteers helped us step up a cement boat ramp to exit the water. They also had wetsuit strippers, and my guy did great - "Back to me! (unzip) Hands by your side! (top yanked down) On your butt! (suit pulled off)" It moved. I saw the main race clock, and I estimated my time at around 45-46 minutes. Two keys at this point: First, I knew that a slow swim wasn't too costly in terms of time. I'd hoped for maybe 40 minutes, but an extra five minutes wasn't a big deal with a full day ahead. Second, despite the challenges, my mind and body were actually in a good place. I was excited to push on.
T1 - 6:43
I did stop at a porta-potty in the transition area ...kind of pain in a one-piece tri-suit. (Waiting to start the swim, in tri-suit and wetsuit, I just peed away.) I didn't rush the transition. They seemed to have grouped us age groupers, and I noticed a couple bikes still in the racks. One AGer was just leaving, and we talked briefly. I caught him 20 miles later. During transition, I had a gel and a big dose of Accelerade drink.
Bike - 56 miles. 3:16:03 (17.1 mph), 168 of 214 male
The course was generally flat, but we did have rather strong (~15 mph) SW winds to deal with. Miles 1-15: Mostly a straight shot east, with some roll over the first several miles then very flat. I held a good, big-ring gear and cruised uncomfortably comfortable. Miles 16-19: This was a bit hilly (some out-of-the-seat ascents) and an uphill trend, but it still went well. Miles 20-28: This took a turn south and then west to the turnaround. While flat, it had a mild ascent to it as we moved away from the river. Plus, we were going into the stiff winds with lots of open fields around us. This was a slog in lower gears. I just pushed along, hoping that after the turnaround I'd be in decent shape and able to resume my speed again. And that's what happened. Reversing 20-28 went great with the winds behind and the slight downslope over several miles to the turn by the river. Throughout, I munched on a Clif Bar and drank Accelerade and Gatorade. I also smashed down half a banana from an aid station. Final 19 miles: A turn west headed us back toward transition, but it also turned us back into the wind. With more trees, this wasn't quite as bad. I actually held pace rather well and passed several others in the final miles. A couple of gels helped keep me going. This leg was the only one that really met my expectations. I squeezed in a few weeks of intense training through the week before the race, and it paid off. I would have loved to be faster, but given the bike and conditions, this was OK with a solid finish.
T2 - 4:59
Kind of slow. First equipment malfunction - my sunglasses broke in half as I took them off to remove my bike helmet. Not a big deal, but irritating mid-race. I grabbed my fuel belt with two containers of Accelerade and a banana, which I ate quickly as I moved out of transition.
Run - 13.1 miles. 2:10:36 (9:58/mile), 101 of 214 male
A lot of mixed feelings about the run. This should be my place to shine, and I suppose the top half finish of the men reflects some of that. But the run/walk process was frustrating. What could I do, though? The temp had climbed into the high 80s and the sun was burning bright around midday. My mind was in a good place, and my stride was really strong (other racers, volunteers, and spectators commented on it). But I knew my HR was getting too high as I ran for any length of time. So I had to start taking too-frequent (if short) walk breaks. It got to the point that I'd always run through the sun and then walk in the occasional shade. Most telling was a half-mile stretch after the turnaround in the out-and-back course where we ran on a shaded dirt road through some forest. I ran this whole stretch with relative ease. But then, back in the sun, the difficulties began again. I also had equipment malfunction #2 - I hadn't properly put the top on one of my fuel containers, and my Accelerade had all splashed out. Very depressing. The good news is that I passed an AGer around mile 7 (on that dirt road) and another around mile 9.5. A turnaround at mile 10 put me on the road to the finish. However, after that second pass, and not having seen similar race numbers in front of me at all (=more AGers), I didn't feel motivated to drive hard to the finish. I properly guessed that I was probably about 4th in the AG. The next two were about 20 minutes in front of me (due to stronger swims and biking).
After the finish, a volunteer guy with a hose soaked me down really good. I absolutely devoured an ice cold bottle of water. I then limped back to the boat ramp and sat in the edge of the river for a while, at which point everything cramped back up again. But I slowly retrieved my gear and managed to get back to the car for the drive home.
FInal thought: I like the triathlon challenge. It's pretty crazy to go through all that, and I'm proud to have done it. But those swim starts are not enjoyable, although I could have (should have) just stood still for 20 seconds to let the crowd get going. And as mentioned, it's hard to compete with my old bike, although this really is more about challenging myself than racing others. So the verdict's out about more tri's. I'll see what routines I settle into, now, and where my focus is in next winter's training. It'll all depend to some extent on my heel and the bone spur.
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-OZ-
Footballguy
Ah damn. I was going to ask if it was just the monitor but guess not. (That's happened to me and I did not feel the hr actually spiking). Best to get it checked. It also happened to a buddy of mine who was in pretty good shape (master sergeant in the 82nd airborne), he had a total heart attack later. Have you seen a doc recently?
JShare87
Footballguy
Anyone recommend some decent running shorts that aren't extremely short and stay somewhat dry? Running in south Florida at this time is ridiculous. I can no longer run with a shirt, but I have no choice on wearing shorts. I run in Nike dri-fit running shorts, but about 3 miles into my runs, they are completely soak and wet. I'm talking like jumped in a swimming pool and got out soak and wet. It's getting to the point of being absolutely ridiculous. Also, my shoes are completely soaked as well from all the damn sweat.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I've made it a habit to go to Ross or tj max often. You can find decent shorts there.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
after a 10k in the low-mid 70s on saturday i had sweat through...... everything.
my wife ran the same race and looked like she just got done taking a leisurely stroll around her office.
she said "why do you...... sweat.... so much..... from............................. everywhere?"
if'n you find some shorts that work for you, i'll take a PM
Osaurus
Footballguy
Nigel
Footballguy
See one regularly. It's a known issue (a-fib) that I had surgery to fix but need a redo. I'm medicated to control it but it goes out of whack in occasion. First time I've felt it during a workout.
Hang 10
Footballguy
I suggest you just get used it. That's summer marathon training for you. Hate the soggy shoes.
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-OZ-
Footballguy
I'd gladly run in rain. I'm soaked anyway.
Yep. Riding was better but when you have goals, ya gotta work.I suggest you just get used it. That's summer marathon training for you. Hate the soggy shoes.
-OZ-
Footballguy
JShare87
Footballguy
Thanks. Didn't know if it was my shorts or just a normal thing.I suggest you just get used it. That's summer marathon training for you. Hate the soggy shoes.
MAC_32
Footballguy
My running clothes laundry bin got moved to the back of the basement early during marathon training last year.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I immediately visit the laundry room and put clothes straight into the washer. But then we do a load every day.
gruecd
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
how many miles is too many for your shoes? I don't mean this as a "you must retire your shoes after X miles" rule, but for you.
I just hit 695 miles with my new balance Zantes, love those shoes. I rotate between 3 pair right now and have another for trails, which I've heard helps prevent injury. I think I might be able to get 1,000 in these but the heals are starting to wear down. normally I might get 400 miles on a pair.
I just hit 695 miles with my new balance Zantes, love those shoes. I rotate between 3 pair right now and have another for trails, which I've heard helps prevent injury. I think I might be able to get 1,000 in these but the heals are starting to wear down. normally I might get 400 miles on a pair.
-OZ-
Footballguy
so my buddy posted this on Facebook this morning: https://www.outsideonline.com/2087751/yes-professional-runners-are-weak
Nothing too surprising and it's good to see Ryan Hall healthy.
Nothing too surprising and it's good to see Ryan Hall healthy.
Brony
Footballguy
Went for run today with a Garmin Forerunner 610 that I dusted off. I typically don't wear a watch and just rely on smartphone for tunes and Strava. The watch is good to get real time pace, but that hasn't been big issue for me. Plus, syncing to Strava is pretty darn easy logging runs right in the app. If I had a phone with built-in heart rate monitor support, that would be ideal. For now, I will probably skip the watch unless I am looking to hit certain paces.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Got my current pair early September and while I have mixed others in when conditions call, I imagine I'm over one thousand on these. They still feel like they have a lot of juice in them, but I am feeling more stress around my ankles after harder workouts so I will probably start to mix in a new pair by the end of the month and start to transition these to my dry trail shoes.-OZ- said:
Brony
Footballguy
Good luck!Off to 5k this morning. Last time I am ever doing this course. I walk it often on lunch breaks, but hate running it. Leg still not right. Gonna go see the doctor soon and see what's up. Should be an awful time todayptimism:
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
PR Mile Race Report
This mile race is called the "PR Mile" because the officially measured course was chosen to help runners get a PR. My GPS had it at 38 feet of elevation loss and it was mostly a gentle decline the whole way. This is a relatively small race in total numbers but it is CARA (Chicago Area Runners Association) event and that always brings out a lot of good runners.
The race is in waves. They start out with the 70 plus year olds (only 2 runners), then to the 60s, the 50s, and so on down to the kids. Finally they have elite waves for those that think they are really fast. I knew I had no business to be in that so I ran in the 40s wave. That wave was a 6:40 p.m. start. This was my first evening race. I felt sluggish in the mid-afternoon but after getting there and warming up I felt OK. It was hot and humid but for a short race like this, I don't this it matters too much.
There were 12 runners in my wave. After the start, I find myself in 4th.
As I have a bad habit in doing, I started out too fast. Strava gave me a 400 meter PR of 1:08 which I'm sure was all during the start. That said, I didn't feel too bad at that point. My heart rate was already over 170 and I'm breathing hard but I didn't feel as bad as I'd think for just running my fastest 400 meters. Anyway, I let myself slow down a bit since that pace was certainly unsustainable.
I apparently was at the half at 2:28. The fastest I've ever run a half mile. I'm still in 4th. 3rd place isn't too far ahead. 1st through 4th are about evenly staggered. I can't hear anyone behind me.
Not surprisingly, I'm quickly running out of gas the second half but the nice thing about a mile race is it's so quick. It doesn't take long to run a 1/10 of a mile so you know you're quickly making good progress. I slowed down quite a bit this second half but I was working hard. My heart rate was in the upper 170s. That's very rare for me. I think that's the highest it's been in a few years. When I see the clock, I try to make a final burst to get under 5:10 but those seconds ticked away fast. Official time 5:10.6. 4/12 in my wave. Winner was 4:56, followed by 4:59 and 5:04 in second and third.
I get a kick out of looking at the final results. Out of the whole field, including the women, oldsters and kids, I counted 36 runners under 6:00 compared to only 10 over 8:00.
This mile race is called the "PR Mile" because the officially measured course was chosen to help runners get a PR. My GPS had it at 38 feet of elevation loss and it was mostly a gentle decline the whole way. This is a relatively small race in total numbers but it is CARA (Chicago Area Runners Association) event and that always brings out a lot of good runners.
The race is in waves. They start out with the 70 plus year olds (only 2 runners), then to the 60s, the 50s, and so on down to the kids. Finally they have elite waves for those that think they are really fast. I knew I had no business to be in that so I ran in the 40s wave. That wave was a 6:40 p.m. start. This was my first evening race. I felt sluggish in the mid-afternoon but after getting there and warming up I felt OK. It was hot and humid but for a short race like this, I don't this it matters too much.
There were 12 runners in my wave. After the start, I find myself in 4th.
As I have a bad habit in doing, I started out too fast. Strava gave me a 400 meter PR of 1:08 which I'm sure was all during the start. That said, I didn't feel too bad at that point. My heart rate was already over 170 and I'm breathing hard but I didn't feel as bad as I'd think for just running my fastest 400 meters. Anyway, I let myself slow down a bit since that pace was certainly unsustainable.
I apparently was at the half at 2:28. The fastest I've ever run a half mile. I'm still in 4th. 3rd place isn't too far ahead. 1st through 4th are about evenly staggered. I can't hear anyone behind me.
Not surprisingly, I'm quickly running out of gas the second half but the nice thing about a mile race is it's so quick. It doesn't take long to run a 1/10 of a mile so you know you're quickly making good progress. I slowed down quite a bit this second half but I was working hard. My heart rate was in the upper 170s. That's very rare for me. I think that's the highest it's been in a few years. When I see the clock, I try to make a final burst to get under 5:10 but those seconds ticked away fast. Official time 5:10.6. 4/12 in my wave. Winner was 4:56, followed by 4:59 and 5:04 in second and third.
I get a kick out of looking at the final results. Out of the whole field, including the women, oldsters and kids, I counted 36 runners under 6:00 compared to only 10 over 8:00.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Damn. Very sad for the family.
Black bears are all over the trails up in Tahoe, and are not uncommon on the course I'll be running on this weekend. I've always taken a little comfort in the fact that we don't have the more aggressive brown bears in CA, and black bears rarely attack. But rarely obviously isn't never.
Race week!!
Fill us in on what the next five days look like for you. Feeling good? Nervous energy? Man, I'm pumped for you.
Nigel
Footballguy
Ryan Oosting, a sophomore in my daughter's Arlington HS (MA) class, won the national HS 5k championship with a time of 14:36 this weekend. He was primarily a hockey player who'd never run prior to his freshman year. Started the fall 2016 cross country season on JV, couldn't crack the top 10 to run on a mediocre varsity team at the time. Ridiculous natural talent.
Brony
Footballguy
that's pretty amazing. A sophomore?!SteelCurtain
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
opinions on this: http://allcommunity.events/documents/wisconsin/greenbay_hotciderhustle_halfmap.pdf
it's a race, downtown, here in October. i want to run another one this year, this race is new to the area and would be really convenient for me.
that said, the route appears to be an out and back on a local paved trail that runs along the river. it's possible the back is not on the trail.. but that puts it on a pretty heavily traveled street with no lights, no intersections and no sidewalks that people do between 40-50 on. seems unlikely.
a half, out and back on a trail?? it's wide enough i suppose to do it but i can see there being quite a few people crammed on to this thing making it a slog for a few miles and a cluster at the turnaround.
but.... it's $50 bucks if registered by Sunday.
would you?
it's a race, downtown, here in October. i want to run another one this year, this race is new to the area and would be really convenient for me.
that said, the route appears to be an out and back on a local paved trail that runs along the river. it's possible the back is not on the trail.. but that puts it on a pretty heavily traveled street with no lights, no intersections and no sidewalks that people do between 40-50 on. seems unlikely.
a half, out and back on a trail?? it's wide enough i suppose to do it but i can see there being quite a few people crammed on to this thing making it a slog for a few miles and a cluster at the turnaround.
but.... it's $50 bucks if registered by Sunday.
would you?
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
@mr. furley I have run several All Community Events half marathons in the Chicago area and I think I have a good sense on how they do things. I suspect it's all on the same trail. Blocking off a busy street would be too expensive comparatively. I suspect they will have a maximum capacity for the race so that things aren't jammed up too much. A trail half they run by me is capped at 750 or so, for example. I think you'll be fine as long as you aren't too far towards the back.
mr. furley
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
guessing here, it's probably more on the order of 12-15 feet wide. been a few months since i've run on it but it's wide enough for bikers, skaters, runners an walkers to share the same space without much issue.
there just usually aren't hundreds of people running in a group at any one time on it
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Thanks. It's been an interesting couple of weeks, for sure. The pain in my knee that developed at the Memorial Day training runs, and that re-occurred the following two weekends led to a much more aggressive taper than I had planned - three days off last week, for example, and nothing longer than an hour for these final two weeks. That kind of thing makes me question preparedness, but I keep telling myself that the hay was in the barn already anyway, so it shouldn't matter.SayWhat? said:Race week!!
Fill us in on what the next five days look like for you. Feeling good? Nervous energy? Man, I'm pumped for you.
I've been in twice to see my PT/Chiro, and have gotten electro-stim, Graston, laser, chiropractic adjustments, and today he busted out cupping which was new. Basically he said my hip flexors weren't firing like they should so he did some work there, and I have a big knot in the outside of my calf that he's been working on (as have I). So hopefully this will have the knee in position to hold up this weekend. It hasn't hurt the past few runs, but again those have all been under an hour. I don't think even if this does flare up it will threaten completion of the race, but it sure could make it a slow and painful day if it does. But fingers crossed, and I think it'll be alright.
I also ramped up the heat training the past few days. I've been doing daily 30 minute sauna sessions since the beginning of last week, and twice now I've gone out on mid-day runs with multiple layers on, beanie, etc, to put in an hour of heat training. The last one on Saturday was just brutal as it was over 90 degrees, and afterward I drove around for 15 minutes with the heat blasting in my car. My hr was up in the 160s and low 170s several times during the run, even at slow paces! I almost passed out when I got out of the car, and I still felt "off" yesterday, which is why the final heat sessions will be today and tomorrow. The weather forecast for this week is 103-107 degrees in Auburn (the finish), and 101 on Saturday. So it's gonna be hot out there, especially with that heat baking the Canyons all week (the rocks literally warm up and hold heat down there with very little air flow). The good news is that the snow up in the high country is rapidly melting, so we won't have to use one of the alternate "snow courses", and will be running the original course on race day. But we'll still be on some snow off and on through 25-30 miles I would imagine.
Otherwise just trying to get some work done (a struggle) while putting together drop bags, discussing logistics with crew, and thinking about it all pretty much nonstop. I guess that's what happens on race week when it's been a 5-year journey to get to that start line in Squaw.
4 days, 17 hours. #seeyouinsquaw
-OZ-
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ragincajun
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So over the last 10 days I turned 40, gained 10 pounds or so, and bought $200 in new kicks with arch supports. May start up tonight depending on what time I get in from my trip. Official weigh in to come when I arrive home.
Goal is 13.1 in Feb
starting couch to 5k this week and then once that is complete merging into the couch to 10k. Once that is complete I will start training towards the half.
Goal is 13.1 in Feb
starting couch to 5k this week and then once that is complete merging into the couch to 10k. Once that is complete I will start training towards the half.
tri-man 47
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What they'll do, quite certainly, is have a tight funnel at the start. That'll slow the start, but create spacing right from the get-go.
bushdocda
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