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Count me as a maybe, I promised my sister if she qualifies that I'd run Boston when she does. I don't like the idea of running Boston in back to back years because I don't enjoy training for a marathon over the winter and the weather on race day tends to be iffy. She will be running a marathon this spring, so I should know one way or another around that time frame.Juxtatarot said:
I don’t have disformation like that. Maybe a tiny bit but I’ve forgotten what my heels looked like in the past. But, yes, I’ve had the symptoms you’ve had and have read about that. It might just be bursitis though. In the past I’ve been able to manage it by replacing shoes more frequently and being more diligent with stretches/exercises (although I never do them enough). I know your issues should be a cautionary tale for me but I’m at the age of my running career that I’m willing to take risks if that makes sense.Ned said:
Oh yeah, that means you need to run 3:10.
lol
There's lots of caveats to this statement, the primary one being if healthy, but I usually don't do anything. I think post run and strength training are much more important - by doing them you're more likely to stay healthy and not need to do anything pre-run. That said, I think there are psychological benefits to a pre-run routine, especially if you experienced improvement during a period in which you did a particular one. Ultimately, I haven't read anything to make me believe there are negatives to doing one. I do question how much it really helps though.SFBayDuck said:
Yes sir. Saw that you were in there too. With two tickets and an increase from ~4300 applicants last year to ~5000 this year, I figure my odds at ~4% since 2-ticket odds last year were 4.9%. You're absolutely correct that Western States is now a 5-7 year plan. Thinking I got started a year or two late for qualifiers as it's only going to get worse year over year.SFBayDuck said:
That's right, you've got 2 this year. A guy I know already ran the monte carlo simulator and estimated 3.6% chance with two tickets, 1.8% with one. Even the fifth year is only a 25% chance, and that'll likely keep inching down year by year. Of course my boy Surf will probably get in with his one ticket, for the 4th time in 6 years.Yes sir. Saw that you were in there too. With two tickets and an increase from ~4300 applicants last year to ~5000 this year, I figure my odds at ~4% since 2-ticket odds last year were 4.9%. You're absolutely correct that Western States is now a 5-7 year plan. Thinking I got started a year or two late for qualifiers as it's only going to get worse year over year.
Yeah, the odds will most definitely keep dropping each year, and that's even if the number of applicants remained steady, which it likely won't. With a vast majority of applicants not getting selected and tickets for those applicants doubling each year, the total ticket counts in the drawing are going to skyrocket over the next few years.
Or really, any qualifying options but the two that are within legit driving distance here in MN. You've got an intense December ahead of you! That'll be nice knowing your schedule for 2018 within a month. Now you just need to keep progressing with your calf rehab. Perhaps @tri-man 47 is available for a calf massage? 
Ned said:
I'm 11 months in.
Yup, that's what my heel looks like. An x-ray was taken over a year ago, and the doc said I had a bone spur (looks like the protrusion in the link). My thinking is that the tendons needed a full year to acclimate to that change in the bone structure. It took a full 12-13 months after the first occurrence for me to be back to some semblance of normal, e.g., where I could run consecutive days, and where I was limping around for 1-2 days after a run. I do still pop some ibuprofen after some runs, but not always. Ned, how long has it been for you?
amen brother.
Please video this and share. You owe me for the gorilla.
Mine's the devil I know and if stretching and/or strengthening was the fix, I would have been better long ago. That said, strengthening my weak ### hips can't be a bad thing, so I'm indulging the PT on that for now.
On my gait re-training, I was practicing walking in place last night and purposely falling against a wall. SMH the things we'll do for this sport.
Those smoking-hot ladies are tough!
So I wasn't the only one that read that part over and over. I actually tried it in different voices as well to add effect. It helped.
I'm making myself start training in December, so I don't fly totally off the rails over the holidays. Actually have a MP workout on my mind sometime over Thanksgiving. Food and alcohol intake may defer that to a later date though.
I'm definitely in. I BQed by 6+ min in Chicago last month, so unless the standards get nuts, I'll be there in 2019. It would be great to get a crew there.
I wear a long sleeve Starter brand underlayer that I got from Wal Mart about 3 years ago for maybe $15. I add a light running jacket over that and can run down to temps of about 15 with just those items. I wear a pair of running pants as well. My whole get up is probably $80.
I just asked the same question as I'm new to this. Here's the post and ensuing discussion. It's helpful.
Hey Dedfin, where'd you move to? Craft makes some really high quality products but as ChiefD said, you can definitely get away spending less than that. If cost is the concern, then I'd start by layering up with a cheap LS technical t-shirt (or two) plus a light jacket/pullover, then get out for a run and see how it feels. And as gianmarco linked to some recent discussion, keeping your head and hands warm is significant, as once those get cold then you can become miserable pretty quickly.
i'm a filthy casual by comparison to these guys, too. we are legion!
Hi, Dedfin! Yes ...where in the north are you? Some of the guys do try to get together for easy runs or races or beers, depending on the locale.
I never considered this either.. thanks!
One other thing about wind running:
I did actually notice this. north toledo is pretty windy and as soon as I get out of my neighborhood, it's all wind all the time
I grew up in NW Ohio. NE Ohio is paradise in comparison. The winds you're going to experience will make Chicagoan's blush.
try Aquaphor in place of the band-aids. upside: less ripping hair out of your chest.
Man........ yeah the locals I know hear me complaining about the weather and they say "this is just the beginning of fall, you haven't seen winter yet". What?? I really don't want to wear a ski mask style, since they agitate my face. maybe I can wear a ninja style one. Any experience with those?
Go on....try Aquaphor in place of the band-aids. upside: less ripping hair out of your chest.
stuff works great. i've used it....... lots of places
i've got both. wear the ninja style mostly. easy to pull down off your nose & mouth to below your chin. plus you get head coverage that's thinner/more breathable than a hat (generally). i've tried head covers but they just make me overheat.
Yeah, I wear the ninjas. Honestly only notice it's there when I pull it over my nose, usually only need to do that going into the wind. But...again...that wind. If you're in the Ottawa Hills/Sylvania area there may be enough trees to minimize the carnage some, but if you're more out in Holland or Temperance...
Good luck this weekend!
Thanks guys, the taper has me feeling pretty good. I am ready to go.
