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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (15 Viewers)

gianmarco said:
Despite what I've got going on, I'm planning on running the 5K.  Unfortunately, my fitness is going to be ####.  I'll make up for it with a sweet downhill I found. 

Probably a dumb idea but I'm so tired of not running that it's getting to the point I don't care.
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... and let the excuses start flowing

Gonna need to start swiping BMF cards if this keeps up. 

Look - I cant run 23 straight minutes without needing to #### my pants. I think it’s reasonable that all you ####ers drink up the beet juice, strap on your fannypacks, and get to kickin. 

#BMFlife 

 
MAC_32 said:
I don't know if anyone is officially out but ElFloppo, Jshare, Gian, and Duck are no better than Questionable. I don't think we've heard from Keaton since March either.
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Wait - Buster Keaton or me?  I'm completely fine.  100% healthy.  Sadly, that still leaves me slower than the vast majority of this thread.  But I've spent the past few weeks taking the resentment generated by your subtle (or not so subtle) slights and channeled it into hard core training.   Screw you all!!   (other than the people on my team)

 
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I don't see why it would be too late to refine the format given that the format wasn't even finalized when the draft happened.    Regardless of the format, the strategy is to run as fast you can, right?

My thoughts for what they are worth:

  1. Cross-country format makes a lot of sense provided you go all the way down the line (i.e., don't stop at 5), that way if one team's 9th rounder overperforms, it's still worth a lot even if they don't crack the top 5 on their team.  It also nicely handles DNFs - you just end up at the bottom, and it hurts your team but is not debilitating. 
  2. Average pace is probably the most fun, but if you do this I don't think it makes sense to just discard DNFs - as people have already pointed out, it leads to all sorts of weird incentives.  Giving them the lowest time of the other side with or without an additional penalty is nice and clean, but it might be a bit too harsh and encourage faster people who maybe shouldn't run to tough it out and risk injury.  You could give them the time of their round counterpart +0:30/mile or something and that would be more fair.
 
Good lord guys this is just for fun anyway. Doing the averages will be just fine. Again, let’s not complicate this and take all the fun out of it. 

 
Definitely underperforming my ADP on the 5K.  I just can't get motivated to run fast.  Or run slow.  Today, there was a significant amount of walking for me.  

I'll go out and run.  But I've been running on #### legs for weeks now, and my mental state isn't much better than my legs.  Not getting out to the mountains is really draining any enthusiasm I had.

Yes, I'm a whiny #####.  

Just wanted to set expectations.

ETA:  At least I didn't have to poop on my run today.  There's that.

 
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gianmarco said:
No chance I can just submit for actual 5K from a month ago, right?
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Correct.  As @gruecd notes, this is all just for fun ...and motivation to put in focused training. (I wouldn't have been pounding some 400m repeats this morning if not for the race challenge!) 

We'd decided on use of average pacing, and let's stick to that.  That actually puts a fair amount of pressure on every runner.  Dropping a place in the standings under the CC format costs just a point.  But a mediocre run that loses 15-30 seconds per mile could definitely and directly impact the team average.  *

*Besides, I'm lined up across from @Brony, and he's faster than me, despite his newly advanced age.

 
Zasada said:
Definitely underperforming my ADP on the 5K.  I just can't get motivated to run fast.  Or run slow.  Today, there was a significant amount of walking for me.  

I'll go out and run.  But I've been running on #### legs for weeks now, and my mental state isn't much better than my legs.  Not getting out to the mountains is really draining any enthusiasm I had.

Yes, I'm a whiny #####.  

Just wanted to set expectations.

ETA:  At least I didn't have to poop on my run today.  There's that.
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Just think of people in this thread disrespecting you.  I’m not having any trouble with motivation. It’s like being the Rodney Dangerfield of running for Pete’s sake.  Went out today and kicked ###. Granted, my sprinting was still slower than a tri-man 15-mile casual run, but so what?  As they said on one of my guilty pleasure crappy childhood sitcoms “kiss my grits.”

 
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I get that its just a 5k, but I just realized we will all be going through taper/race prep madness simultaneously. 

 
By the way, you were right on the track tri-man.  Tried it this afternoon and it was luxurious.  Not the superball surface that the city one is (which is closed off), but I think I will utilize it for the 5K if possible.  Just hope I can hit it at a low/no volume time.  There were only 2 or 3 other people there, but one guy was clogging up the inner lane jogging slowly.  👎

 
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Got up this morning and saw that the am storms forecast for DFW where appearing to pass to the north and south where of where I live.  I was in a little "alley" between cells.

So I hastily threw on the gear and got out.  First 5K was light rain and the lightning was in the distance.

Then, apparently, the storm started to fill the gap (as I saw on radar when I got home).  Started to get some closer lighting, and I decided that running a very exposed section near the lake was probably a bad idea.

Turned north instead, which I knew would trim about 3K off my 11K+ standard run.  As I'm running towards home, it starts to rain harder, but at the same time I think maybe I can do a quick out-and-back on a less-exposed section I'm used to in order to add a couple K.  

I get to the point to turn off my route, I take two strides towards the added out-and-back, and... BAM!  Huge lighting bolt followed almost immediately by the thunder.  

I actually smiled and LOL'd, figured that was my warning, and got back on the route most direct to home.  Really started to pour for the last 1K.

At least it was a warm rain!  22C/72F.

 
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I get that its just a 5k, but I just realized we will all be going through taper/race prep madness simultaneously. 
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Taper? :oldunsure:  

I haven't tapered for anything under an Olympic tri (technically longer than a HM but feels shorter) or HM in decades. 

Might be smart. 🤔

 
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Question for y'all.

When doing intervals, do you find your last being the best or the first? Do you try for an even approach or give it all each time regardless of whether you can repeat it later? 

I've generally unintentionally held back (a little) at first, making the last the best, usually. I'm not sure this is the best approach.

And Happy Easter! 🐰

 
Agree that we should stick to average mile as the deciding factor. Of course, it won't stop people from analyzing every other scoring method.

I'm still not sure what route I'll be running but I have some ideas based on wind next weekend. No hills near me, so I wouldn't be running a net downhill even if I wanted.  The lake path that I usually run is closed due to virus. 

@tri-man 47 and @Juxtatarot - let me know if you want to meet up for the 10K and/or mile.  I'd be interested in a track for the mile (for nostalgia purposes) or beer mile (for fun). 

 
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Question for y'all.

When doing intervals, do you find your last being the best or the first? Do you try for an even approach or give it all each time regardless of whether you can repeat it later? 

I've generally unintentionally held back (a little) at first, making the last the best, usually. I'm not sure this is the best approach.

And Happy Easter! 🐰
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First one is slowest. 2nd to last one is usually fastest. Because I gwnerally keep doing them until my time drops. 

 
A man runs due west at 7 mph.  A wind is blowing due north at a consistent velocity of 7 mph.  For the purposes of these questions, please ignore any effect the wind might have on helping cool the man's body.

1.  Does the wind...

A) aid the runner B)  hinder the runner or C) have no effect

2. Does the answer  to #1 change if the wind velocity was greater or less than the velocity of the runner?  If so, how?

 
Juxtatarot said:
A man runs due west at 7 mph.  A wind is blowing due north at a consistent velocity of 7 mph.  For the purposes of these questions, please ignore any effect the wind might have on helping cool the man's body.

1.  Does the wind...

A) aid the runner B)  hinder the runner or C) have no effect

2. Does the answer  to #1 change if the wind velocity was greater or less than the velocity of the runner?  If so, how?
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1.  B.  Balance will be harder with a constant force pushing the runner to one side.

2.  I think greater velocity creates more imbalance, and if the runner is moving faster as well.  So less about relative velocity than absolute.

 
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Question for y'all.

When doing intervals, do you find your last being the best or the first? Do you try for an even approach or give it all each time regardless of whether you can repeat it later? 

I've generally unintentionally held back (a little) at first, making the last the best, usually. I'm not sure this is the best approach.

And Happy Easter! 🐰
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For me the first interval is my slowest and I attempt to get as close to my target as possible. The 2nd interval is the easiest as my legs have loosened up from the first one. Mentally the one right before the halfway point is the toughest. The last one is my fastest.

 
pbm107 said:
For me the first interval is my slowest and I attempt to get as close to my target as possible. The 2nd interval is the easiest as my legs have loosened up from the first one. Mentally the one right before the halfway point is the toughest. The last one is my fastest.
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👍 

Pretty much same. #paulsunite 

 
Juxtatarot said:
A man runs due west at 7 mph.  A wind is blowing due north at a consistent velocity of 7 mph.  For the purposes of these questions, please ignore any effect the wind might have on helping cool the man's body.

1.  Does the wind...

A) aid the runner B)  hinder the runner or C) have no effect

2. Does the answer  to #1 change if the wind velocity was greater or less than the velocity of the runner?  If so, how?
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A steady cross wind at 7 mph, no effect. My answer only changes if the wind is not steady or gets into double digits. 

 
gruecd said:
Good lord guys this is just for fun anyway. Doing the averages will be just fine. Again, let’s not complicate this and take all the fun out of it. 
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What fun would that be?

 
-OZ- said:
Question for y'all.

When doing intervals, do you find your last being the best or the first? Do you try for an even approach or give it all each time regardless of whether you can repeat it later? 

I've generally unintentionally held back (a little) at first, making the last the best, usually. I'm not sure this is the best approach.

And Happy Easter! 🐰
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I prefer negative intervals. Not actually heard anyone recommend positive intervals. Have heard pyramid though. 

 
Hosted a zoom meeting with my 70+ yo parents, sister, her kids and my kids. 

Sister does IT for her school so she was very helpful, our teens are fine. My 11 and 9 yo were okay for the most part. But technology seems a little being beyond my parents at this point. They were able to view eventually and talk but wow that was a test of patience.

 
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Question for y'all.

When doing intervals, do you find your last being the best or the first? Do you try for an even approach or give it all each time regardless of whether you can repeat it later? 

I've generally unintentionally held back (a little) at first, making the last the best, usually. I'm not sure this is the best approach.

And Happy Easter! 🐰
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First is typically slowest as the stride hasn't fully opened up yet. Last couple are usually a bit faster as I know I'm near the end and don't hold back a smidge.

 
tri-man 47 said:
First is typically slowest as the stride hasn't fully opened up yet. Last couple are usually a bit faster as I know I'm near the end and don't hold back a smidge.
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Do you find it true for cycling too? Terrain makes a difference (even more so than in running IMO) but even on the trainer.

 
When I ran the 10K yesterday my first mile was 8:55 and the next 5 were between 9:30 and 9:40.  I think this was a mistake as I was really feeling a lot of pain in my last mile but pushed through it.

 
fred_1_15301 said:
When I ran the 10K yesterday my first mile was 8:55 and the next 5 were between 9:30 and 9:40.  I think this was a mistake as I was really feeling a lot of pain in my last mile but pushed through it.
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With the exception of races, my first mile is always my slowest. I view it as a warmup.

 
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