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I see that registration is now open for the Bird-In-Hand 5k in Lancaster, PA. I'm tempted to sign up, but frankly, I don't know how long I could run like that.
Well, #### me. You guys were right; I'm weak. I talked it over with the wife - I am going to register for the Erie marathon or the Via marathon (Allentown, PA) in the hopes to better my BQ. They're both running the day before registration is most likely going to open for 2016. After sweating our boys in Boston and watching the coverage, it really fired me up. I didn't want to make a rash decision and sign up for a race that day, but that fire is still there today. I want 2016 Boston so friggin' bad.
So I lasted a whole 5 months.I'm 50/50 excited/dreading it. I enjoy the training (for the most part), but I really hate what the race does to me after the fact. I just don't know if I could live with seeing the 3:09:02 keep me out of it by something stupid like 12 seconds. I just need to go sub 3:08 and I'll be golden.
I swear to god I'm done once I run Boston.![]()
this isn't what you're talking about, but is anyone up for the Bourbon Chase this year?Well, #### me. You guys were right; I'm weak. I talked it over with the wife - I am going to register for the Erie marathon or the Via marathon (Allentown, PA) in the hopes to better my BQ. They're both running the day before registration is most likely going to open for 2016. After sweating our boys in Boston and watching the coverage, it really fired me up. I didn't want to make a rash decision and sign up for a race that day, but that fire is still there today. I want 2016 Boston so friggin' bad.
So I lasted a whole 5 months.I'm 50/50 excited/dreading it. I enjoy the training (for the most part), but I really hate what the race does to me after the fact. I just don't know if I could live with seeing the 3:09:02 keep me out of it by something stupid like 12 seconds. I just need to go sub 3:08 and I'll be golden.
I swear to god I'm done once I run Boston.![]()
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It does seem odd to worry about the post-race effect. Have some protein, drop in an ice bath, and then give yourself a few days for the muscles to heal. Just to goad to you on, I'm giving some thought to the B to B challenge next year. Unlike 2011, they're only 6 days apart in 2016.
How far are you from a new age bracket (and a new qualifying time (as of race day))?
I'm telling you, my body is fn torched after a racing marathon. Maybe I'm just a big poosay and can't handle the aftermath.Well, #### me. You guys were right; I'm weak. I talked it over with the wife - I am going to register for the Erie marathon or the Via marathon (Allentown, PA) in the hopes to better my BQ. They're both running the day before registration is most likely going to open for 2016. After sweating our boys in Boston and watching the coverage, it really fired me up. I didn't want to make a rash decision and sign up for a race that day, but that fire is still there today. I want 2016 Boston so friggin' bad.
So I lasted a whole 5 months.I'm 50/50 excited/dreading it. I enjoy the training (for the most part), but I really hate what the race does to me after the fact. I just don't know if I could live with seeing the 3:09:02 keep me out of it by something stupid like 12 seconds. I just need to go sub 3:08 and I'll be golden.
I swear to god I'm done once I run Boston.![]()
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It does seem odd to worry about the post-race effect. Have some protein, drop in an ice bath, and then give yourself a few days for the muscles to heal. Just to goad to you on, I'm giving some thought to the B to B challenge next year. Unlike 2011, they're only 6 days apart in 2016.
How far are you from a new age bracket (and a new qualifying time (as of race day))?
How you can do B to B is beyond me.
I'll be 37 for the 2016 Boston, so I have a while before I can add 5 minutes.See, I got lucky. I turned 45 this past year, so I only need to run a 3:25 instead of a 3:15.I'm telling you, my body is fn torched after a racing marathon. Maybe I'm just a big poosay and can't handle the aftermath.Well, #### me. You guys were right; I'm weak. I talked it over with the wife - I am going to register for the Erie marathon or the Via marathon (Allentown, PA) in the hopes to better my BQ. They're both running the day before registration is most likely going to open for 2016. After sweating our boys in Boston and watching the coverage, it really fired me up. I didn't want to make a rash decision and sign up for a race that day, but that fire is still there today. I want 2016 Boston so friggin' bad.
So I lasted a whole 5 months.I'm 50/50 excited/dreading it. I enjoy the training (for the most part), but I really hate what the race does to me after the fact. I just don't know if I could live with seeing the 3:09:02 keep me out of it by something stupid like 12 seconds. I just need to go sub 3:08 and I'll be golden.
I swear to god I'm done once I run Boston.![]()
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It does seem odd to worry about the post-race effect. Have some protein, drop in an ice bath, and then give yourself a few days for the muscles to heal. Just to goad to you on, I'm giving some thought to the B to B challenge next year. Unlike 2011, they're only 6 days apart in 2016.
How far are you from a new age bracket (and a new qualifying time (as of race day))?How you can do B to B is beyond me.
I'll be 37 for the 2016 Boston, so I have a while before I can add 5 minutes.
)Never say never. Many of us here have gotten times that once didn't seem likely.See, I got lucky. I turned 45 this past year, so I only need to run a 3:25 instead of a 3:15. (the sick part is I actually looked this up even though there is no way I will ever qualify for that thing.I'm telling you, my body is fn torched after a racing marathon. Maybe I'm just a big poosay and can't handle the aftermath.Well, #### me. You guys were right; I'm weak. I talked it over with the wife - I am going to register for the Erie marathon or the Via marathon (Allentown, PA) in the hopes to better my BQ. They're both running the day before registration is most likely going to open for 2016. After sweating our boys in Boston and watching the coverage, it really fired me up. I didn't want to make a rash decision and sign up for a race that day, but that fire is still there today. I want 2016 Boston so friggin' bad.
So I lasted a whole 5 months.I'm 50/50 excited/dreading it. I enjoy the training (for the most part), but I really hate what the race does to me after the fact. I just don't know if I could live with seeing the 3:09:02 keep me out of it by something stupid like 12 seconds. I just need to go sub 3:08 and I'll be golden.
I swear to god I'm done once I run Boston.![]()
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It does seem odd to worry about the post-race effect. Have some protein, drop in an ice bath, and then give yourself a few days for the muscles to heal. Just to goad to you on, I'm giving some thought to the B to B challenge next year. Unlike 2011, they're only 6 days apart in 2016.
How far are you from a new age bracket (and a new qualifying time (as of race day))?How you can do B to B is beyond me.
I'll be 37 for the 2016 Boston, so I have a while before I can add 5 minutes.
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Well did you win?Moved this past weekend so was busy packing last week but I really hitting my walking hard as I was in a steps competition with some friends. I did 150k steps in 7 days. Mixed in to that was 2 jog/runs - 5 miles and 4 miles. Basically doing a modified couch to 5k to get my distance and speed back - will be a while but I'm trending well so far.
Really stoked about a couple things - got my Hoka's in the mail - ran in them last night for the first time. My legs were dead from all those steps last week and the moving but I managed 3 miles. Also, I'm now down to 214.5 so 25 lbs lost in a few months.
Hopefully I'll be able to do some sustained running in a few months.
Well, yes but I was crazy and actually did closer to 160k steps which ended up being 74 miles for the week.Got out there and modified my plan. I haven't been able to do sustained jogging even so my goal today was to jog all flat and downhill and walk (most) of the hills. I did much better than expected.so after a smooth (for me) start I decided to try to get a time for a 5k and then go from there. First mile had a big up and down hill and I managed about a 12:30 mile (didn't have an accurate number because my kids got off the bus and I stopped to talk to them for about 45 seconds and didn't bother stopping Endomondo. Next mile was in about 11:45 so just over 24 minutes for 2 miles. Last mile had that same huge hill coming back and it kicked my ### and then some. Total time for the 5k was 37:57. Not great but I was super excited as I was able to maintain a jog for the majority of the time. I then walked 3 miles during my son's soccer practice. I'm sore but using a roller and made sure to do my stretching.The Commish said:AAABatteries said:I haven't had mine long enough to give a strong recommendation but so far I'm loving them. My wife asked me last night if I was bouncing as I walked - I said my new shows makes it feels like I'm bouncing just slightly when I walk so maybe I am. And that's a good thing for my knees. I could see how the regular runners in here would maybe hate them but they are perfect for us I think.No....I really need to work on running outside though. I'm about to give up on this store by me. It doesn't seem to ever be open. I was going to look into some of those hooka (sp?) shoes BnB suggested, but I might just go for it and deal with the pain.Do you have a race scheduled this week?Finished the C25K program this am....downloaded the 5k to 10k app to start next week. The rest of this week, I'm gonna see how fast I can do the 5k without puking all over the place.
I plan on doing 5-6 miles tonight in them and for once I'm not stressed about how my knee will feel afterwards.Awaiting your report.
It's definitely something to consider. We had a FBG team in, what, 2012? Of the current, active posters - gruecd, Sand, 2Young, and myself. Former poster Pigskin Liquors drove up from Texas just for the after party! The mom of one of the guys had a small horse farm outside of Lexington, so we were able to crash there. Great race ...great course, weaving through Kentucky.FUBAR said:this isn't what you're talking about, but is anyone up for the Bourbon Chase this year?tri-man 47 said:Ned said:Well, #### me. You guys were right; I'm weak. I talked it over with the wife - I am going to register for the Erie marathon or the Via marathon (Allentown, PA) in the hopes to better my BQ. They're both running the day before registration is most likely going to open for 2016. After sweating our boys in Boston and watching the coverage, it really fired me up. I didn't want to make a rash decision and sign up for a race that day, but that fire is still there today. I want 2016 Boston so friggin' bad.
So I lasted a whole 5 months.I'm 50/50 excited/dreading it. I enjoy the training (for the most part), but I really hate what the race does to me after the fact. I just don't know if I could live with seeing the 3:09:02 keep me out of it by something stupid like 12 seconds. I just need to go sub 3:08 and I'll be golden.
I swear to god I'm done once I run Boston.![]()
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It does seem odd to worry about the post-race effect. Have some protein, drop in an ice bath, and then give yourself a few days for the muscles to heal. Just to goad to you on, I'm giving some thought to the B to B challenge next year. Unlike 2011, they're only 6 days apart in 2016.
How far are you from a new age bracket (and a new qualifying time (as of race day))?
http://www.bourbonchase.com/race
Apparently the only slots left are charity.
Maybe 2016?
We've all posted about it a number of times in the past, but its amazing how being accountable to this group can be a strong motivator. I can't count the number of times I've thought about a race report in the middle of a race or a training update in the middle of a long run.Thanks to everyone for the encouraging words - it's really helped me stay motivated to start posting in here. I have a long ways to go and I'm still mainly concerned with weight loss but I'm happy to be doing some running. As mentioned I'd love to be swimming right now just don't have a place to do it.
Got out there and modified my plan. I haven't been able to do sustained jogging even so my goal today was to jog all flat and downhill and walk (most) of the hills. I did much better than expected.so after a smooth (for me) start I decided to try to get a time for a 5k and then go from there. First mile had a big up and down hill and I managed about a 12:30 mile (didn't have an accurate number because my kids got off the bus and I stopped to talk to them for about 45 seconds and didn't bother stopping Endomondo. Next mile was in about 11:45 so just over 24 minutes for 2 miles. Last mile had that same huge hill coming back and it kicked my ### and then some. Total time for the 5k was 37:57. Not great but I was super excited as I was able to maintain a jog for the majority of the time. I then walked 3 miles during my son's soccer practice. I'm sore but using a roller and made sure to do my stretching.The Commish said:AAABatteries said:I haven't had mine long enough to give a strong recommendation but so far I'm loving them. My wife asked me last night if I was bouncing as I walked - I said my new shows makes it feels like I'm bouncing just slightly when I walk so maybe I am. And that's a good thing for my knees. I could see how the regular runners in here would maybe hate them but they are perfect for us I think.No....I really need to work on running outside though. I'm about to give up on this store by me. It doesn't seem to ever be open. I was going to look into some of those hooka (sp?) shoes BnB suggested, but I might just go for it and deal with the pain.Do you have a race scheduled this week?Finished the C25K program this am....downloaded the 5k to 10k app to start next week. The rest of this week, I'm gonna see how fast I can do the 5k without puking all over the place.
I plan on doing 5-6 miles tonight in them and for once I'm not stressed about how my knee will feel afterwards.Awaiting your report.
Thanks to everyone for the encouraging words - it's really helped me stay motivated to start posting in here. I have a long ways to go and I'm still mainly concerned with weight loss but I'm happy to be doing some running. As mentioned I'd love to be swimming right now just don't have a place to do it.
Got out there and modified my plan. I haven't been able to do sustained jogging even so my goal today was to jog all flat and downhill and walk (most) of the hills. I did much better than expected.so after a smooth (for me) start I decided to try to get a time for a 5k and then go from there. First mile had a big up and down hill and I managed about a 12:30 mile (didn't have an accurate number because my kids got off the bus and I stopped to talk to them for about 45 seconds and didn't bother stopping Endomondo. Next mile was in about 11:45 so just over 24 minutes for 2 miles. Last mile had that same huge hill coming back and it kicked my ### and then some. Total time for the 5k was 37:57. Not great but I was super excited as I was able to maintain a jog for the majority of the time. I then walked 3 miles during my son's soccer practice. I'm sore but using a roller and made sure to do my stretching.The Commish said:AAABatteries said:I haven't had mine long enough to give a strong recommendation but so far I'm loving them. My wife asked me last night if I was bouncing as I walked - I said my new shows makes it feels like I'm bouncing just slightly when I walk so maybe I am. And that's a good thing for my knees. I could see how the regular runners in here would maybe hate them but they are perfect for us I think.No....I really need to work on running outside though. I'm about to give up on this store by me. It doesn't seem to ever be open. I was going to look into some of those hooka (sp?) shoes BnB suggested, but I might just go for it and deal with the pain.Do you have a race scheduled this week?Finished the C25K program this am....downloaded the 5k to 10k app to start next week. The rest of this week, I'm gonna see how fast I can do the 5k without puking all over the place.
I plan on doing 5-6 miles tonight in them and for once I'm not stressed about how my knee will feel afterwards.Awaiting your report.
Thanks to everyone for the encouraging words - it's really helped me stay motivated to start posting in here. I have a long ways to go and I'm still mainly concerned with weight loss but I'm happy to be doing some running. As mentioned I'd love to be swimming right now just don't have a place to do it.
Actually, I signed up for an impromptu 5K tomorrow morning. Originally I thought after my most recent 5K that I'd take a break from racing for a while until I got back to 100% but that was probably just my pride talking. Lately I've made peace with the idea of just racing at my current fitness level and setting realistic goals. So now I'm thinking I'll use some 5 & 10K's as hard workouts and race myself back into shape.Anyone racing this weekend?
8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
You just like the drawer full of logo'd t-shirts, admit it.Actually, I signed up for an impromptu 5K tomorrow morning. Originally I thought after my most recent 5K that I'd take a break from racing for a while until I got back to 100% but that was probably just my pride talking. Lately I've made peace with the idea of just racing at my current fitness level and setting realistic goals. So now I'm thinking I'll use some 5 & 10K's as hard workouts and race myself back into shape.Anyone racing this weekend?
I'm also a podium whore like Tri-man. You can really clean up in these 5k's.You just like the drawer full of logo'd t-shirts, admit it.Actually, I signed up for an impromptu 5K tomorrow morning. Originally I thought after my most recent 5K that I'd take a break from racing for a while until I got back to 100% but that was probably just my pride talking. Lately I've made peace with the idea of just racing at my current fitness level and setting realistic goals. So now I'm thinking I'll use some 5 & 10K's as hard workouts and race myself back into shape.Anyone racing this weekend?
8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
HTH
Now I know you're ready. That is exact attitude you need to take the next step. I'd so much rather read a report saying that you were holding 7:50-8 for the first 10 miles and then you started to fall apart and could barely run 9's for the last 3 then safely staying in certain heart rate zones. I want to hear about you pushing a pace you weren't sure was possible. If you want it, I know you can do it, my friend.8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
HTH![]()
Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.
He's either going to love you or hate your guts.Now I know you're ready. That is exact attitude you need to take the next step. I'd so much rather read a report saying that you were holding 7:50-8 for the first 10 miles and then you started to fall apart and could barely run 9's for the last 3 then safely staying in certain heart rate zones. I want to hear about you pushing a pace you weren't sure was possible. If you want it, I know you can do it, my friend.8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
HTH![]()
Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.
Or hopefully both.He's either going to love you or hate your guts.Now I know you're ready. That is exact attitude you need to take the next step. I'd so much rather read a report saying that you were holding 7:50-8 for the first 10 miles and then you started to fall apart and could barely run 9's for the last 3 then safely staying in certain heart rate zones. I want to hear about you pushing a pace you weren't sure was possible. If you want it, I know you can do it, my friend.8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
HTH![]()
Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.
Chief - just pretend Hang 10 is yelling at you and threatening to flog you throughout the 5k.Now I know you're ready. That is exact attitude you need to take the next step. I'd so much rather read a report saying that you were holding 7:50-8 for the first 10 miles and then you started to fall apart and could barely run 9's for the last 3 then safely staying in certain heart rate zones. I want to hear about you pushing a pace you weren't sure was possible. If you want it, I know you can do it, my friend.8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
HTH![]()
Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.
4-mile race through the Hershey Vineyard on Sunday.They have a map with Google Street View here. It's supposed to be gorgeous on Sunday. Looks like it will be a really pretty run.Anyone racing this weekend?
mmmmm Chocolate!4-mile race through the Hershey Vineyard on Sunday.Anyone racing this weekend?
Even though they call it Hershey, it's actually in the next town over. However, it us around the vineyard and brewery. They give a voucher for a free drink at the end. Screw chocolate!mmmmm Chocolate!4-mile race through the Hershey Vineyard on Sunday.Anyone racing this weekend?
Good luck with the race.I'm also a podium whore like Tri-man. You can really clean up in these 5k's.You just like the drawer full of logo'd t-shirts, admit it.Actually, I signed up for an impromptu 5K tomorrow morning. Originally I thought after my most recent 5K that I'd take a break from racing for a while until I got back to 100% but that was probably just my pride talking. Lately I've made peace with the idea of just racing at my current fitness level and setting realistic goals. So now I'm thinking I'll use some 5 & 10K's as hard workouts and race myself back into shape.Anyone racing this weekend?
It really is about what he wants though. I know the competitive guys in here love to read the reports about puking or bonking or whatever because that's what it's all about for us. It ain't about awards, it's about effort. That's something we can all relate to know matter how fast or slow we are.He's either going to love you or hate your guts.Now I know you're ready. That is exact attitude you need to take the next step. I'd so much rather read a report saying that you were holding 7:50-8 for the first 10 miles and then you started to fall apart and could barely run 9's for the last 3 then safely staying in certain heart rate zones. I want to hear about you pushing a pace you weren't sure was possible. If you want it, I know you can do it, my friend.8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
HTH![]()
Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.
You better run faster than sheeiittt or I'm gonna be pissed.Actually, I signed up for an impromptu 5K tomorrow morning. Originally I thought after my most recent 5K that I'd take a break from racing for a while until I got back to 100% but that was probably just my pride talking. Lately I've made peace with the idea of just racing at my current fitness level and setting realistic goals. So now I'm thinking I'll use some 5 & 10K's as hard workouts and race myself back into shape.Anyone racing this weekend?
This. That's why my race reports are so long, because I have soooo much time to think about them during my races.We've all posted about it a number of times in the past, but its amazing how being accountable to this group can be a strong motivator. I can't count the number of times I've thought about a race report in the middle of a race or a training update in the middle of a long run.Thanks to everyone for the encouraging words - it's really helped me stay motivated to start posting in here. I have a long ways to go and I'm still mainly concerned with weight loss but I'm happy to be doing some running. As mentioned I'd love to be swimming right now just don't have a place to do it.
Great job!
You better run faster than sheeiittt or I'm gonna be pissed.Actually, I signed up for an impromptu 5K tomorrow morning. Originally I thought after my most recent 5K that I'd take a break from racing for a while until I got back to 100% but that was probably just my pride talking. Lately I've made peace with the idea of just racing at my current fitness level and setting realistic goals. So now I'm thinking I'll use some 5 & 10K's as hard workouts and race myself back into shape.Anyone racing this weekend?
Yeah, I was thinking about him last night when I hit mile two and could feel myself start to slow a bit. I kept hearing this voice in my head, or at least the voice I would imagine Hang10 to have, seeing as how I've only seen typed words, saying: PUSH IT YOU BIG PU.SSY! YOU CAN FREAKING PUSH IT HERE!Chief - just pretend Hang 10 is yelling at you and threatening to flog you throughout the 5k.Now I know you're ready. That is exact attitude you need to take the next step. I'd so much rather read a report saying that you were holding 7:50-8 for the first 10 miles and then you started to fall apart and could barely run 9's for the last 3 then safely staying in certain heart rate zones. I want to hear about you pushing a pace you weren't sure was possible. If you want it, I know you can do it, my friend.8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
HTH![]()
Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.
He's right of course.
My LinkIt really is about what he wants though. I know the competitive guys in here love to read the reports about puking or bonking or whatever because that's what it's all about for us. It ain't about awards, it's about effort. That's something we can all relate to know matter how fast or slow we are.He's either going to love you or hate your guts.Now I know you're ready. That is exact attitude you need to take the next step. I'd so much rather read a report saying that you were holding 7:50-8 for the first 10 miles and then you started to fall apart and could barely run 9's for the last 3 then safely staying in certain heart rate zones. I want to hear about you pushing a pace you weren't sure was possible. If you want it, I know you can do it, my friend.8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
HTH![]()
Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.
Now having said all that, I know that's not for everyone. If all you want is to enjoy the race day experience and have a cold ones after that's fine too. But to me, those cold one taste a whole lot better after you've given all you had.![]()
An error occurredYou have reached your quota of positive votes for the dayNed said:My LinkHang 10 said:It really is about what he wants though. I know the competitive guys in here love to read the reports about puking or bonking or whatever because that's what it's all about for us. It ain't about awards, it's about effort. That's something we can all relate to know matter how fast or slow we are.Ned said:He's either going to love you or hate your guts.Hang 10 said:Now I know you're ready. That is exact attitude you need to take the next step. I'd so much rather read a report saying that you were holding 7:50-8 for the first 10 miles and then you started to fall apart and could barely run 9's for the last 3 then safely staying in certain heart rate zones. I want to hear about you pushing a pace you weren't sure was possible. If you want it, I know you can do it, my friend.ChiefD said:Hang 10 said:8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.ChiefD said:Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
HTH![]()
Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.
Now having said all that, I know that's not for everyone. If all you want is to enjoy the race day experience and have a cold ones after that's fine too. But to me, those cold one taste a whole lot better after you've given all you had.![]()
Race director sent out an early weather report for my race next weekend - "we are looking at low to mid 80s, sunny, with 10+ mph winds". So over the course of 62 miles and 13,000'+ of elevation, odds are pretty good I'll be able to report about puking or bonking.Hang 10 said:It really is about what he wants though. I know the competitive guys in here love to read the reports about puking or bonking or whatever because that's what it's all about for us. It ain't about awards, it's about effort. That's something we can all relate to know matter how fast or slow we are.
Now having said all that, I know that's not for everyone. If all you want is to enjoy the race day experience and have a cold ones after that's fine too. But to me, those cold one taste a whole lot better after you've given all you had.![]()
Can't wait to hear about it.Race director sent out an early weather report for my race next weekend - "we are looking at low to mid 80s, sunny, with 10+ mph winds". So over the course of 62 miles and 13,000'+ of elevation, odds are pretty good I'll be able to report about puking or bonking.Hang 10 said:It really is about what he wants though. I know the competitive guys in here love to read the reports about puking or bonking or whatever because that's what it's all about for us. It ain't about awards, it's about effort. That's something we can all relate to know matter how fast or slow we are.
Now having said all that, I know that's not for everyone. If all you want is to enjoy the race day experience and have a cold ones after that's fine too. But to me, those cold one taste a whole lot better after you've given all you had.![]()
As per normal, the start will be rather explosive. But I expect you'll see a lot of runners backing off on that first hill, so let them burn their energy over that stretch. Run smart, knowing you'll have that downhill starting just before the mile 1 marker. Settle into a good pace for the 2nd and 3rd miles as the course rolls along. Be mentally prepared, though, for that hill near the end. Plan in advance to hang tough on that hill, knowing that once you hit the peak, you're essentially done ...just a final .1 downhill to the finish. Imagine all of us running at your side on that final hill, encouraging you to keep fighting every step. Just before the end of that hill, be ready to keep pushing through the left bend, and then push strong on the right turn back over the x-way ...knowing you'll see the finish as you make that turn. Run strong!!ClownCausedChaos2 said:4-mile race through the Hershey Vineyard on Sunday.They have a map with Google Street View here. It's supposed to be gorgeous on Sunday. Looks like it will be a really pretty run.Juxtatarot said:Anyone racing this weekend?
http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/642632012
Now I know what it must be like when women read 50 shades of grey. :boner:As per normal, the start will be rather explosive. But I expect you'll see a lot of runners backing off on that first hill, so let them burn their energy over that stretch. Run smart, knowing you'll have that downhill starting just before the mile 1 marker. Settle into a good pace for the 2nd and 3rd miles as the course rolls along. Be mentally prepared, though, for that hill near the end. Plan in advance to hang tough on that hill, knowing that once you hit the peak, you're essentially done ...just a final .1 downhill to the finish. Imagine all of us running at your side on that final hill, encouraging you to keep fighting every step. Just before the end of that hill, be ready to keep pushing through the left bend, and then push strong on the right turn back over the x-way ...knowing you'll see the finish as you make that turn. Run strong!!ClownCausedChaos2 said:4-mile race through the Hershey Vineyard on Sunday.They have a map with Google Street View here. It's supposed to be gorgeous on Sunday. Looks like it will be a really pretty run.Juxtatarot said:Anyone racing this weekend?
http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/642632012
Yikes mid 80s sounds awful. I am looking forward to reading how you are going to approach and overcome this challenge. One day I would like to venture into ultras, and I learn a lot reading your posts and race reports.Race director sent out an early weather report for my race next weekend - "we are looking at low to mid 80s, sunny, with 10+ mph winds". So over the course of 62 miles and 13,000'+ of elevation, odds are pretty good I'll be able to report about puking or bonking.Hang 10 said:It really is about what he wants though. I know the competitive guys in here love to read the reports about puking or bonking or whatever because that's what it's all about for us. It ain't about awards, it's about effort. That's something we can all relate to know matter how fast or slow we are.
Now having said all that, I know that's not for everyone. If all you want is to enjoy the race day experience and have a cold ones after that's fine too. But to me, those cold one taste a whole lot better after you've given all you had.![]()
Wow, awesome analysis and I truly appreciate the advice. I'll keep it all in mind this weekend.As per normal, the start will be rather explosive. But I expect you'll see a lot of runners backing off on that first hill, so let them burn their energy over that stretch. Run smart, knowing you'll have that downhill starting just before the mile 1 marker. Settle into a good pace for the 2nd and 3rd miles as the course rolls along. Be mentally prepared, though, for that hill near the end. Plan in advance to hang tough on that hill, knowing that once you hit the peak, you're essentially done ...just a final .1 downhill to the finish. Imagine all of us running at your side on that final hill, encouraging you to keep fighting every step. Just before the end of that hill, be ready to keep pushing through the left bend, and then push strong on the right turn back over the x-way ...knowing you'll see the finish as you make that turn. Run strong!!ClownCausedChaos2 said:4-mile race through the Hershey Vineyard on Sunday.They have a map with Google Street View here. It's supposed to be gorgeous on Sunday. Looks like it will be a really pretty run.Juxtatarot said:Anyone racing this weekend?
http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/642632012
Sorry to be the downer here, but I think it would be a mistake for ChiefD to go out at 8:05 pace.ChiefD said:Hang 10 said:8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.ChiefD said:Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
HTH![]()
Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.
Thanks. Appreciate that, and if I'm being honest with myself I think you are dead on.Sorry to be the downer here, but I think it would be a mistake for ChiefD to go out at 8:05 pace.ChiefD said:Hang 10 said:8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.ChiefD said:Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:
Mile 1: warm up
Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR
Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR
Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR
Mile 5: cool down
HTH![]()
Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.
Less than a month ago he ran a half in 1:51 (8:28 pace), there hasn't been enough time to see such a huge improvement. I guess the argument could be made that he left some time on the course, but in reading his race report I don't see any evidence of that. Instead I see quotes like "Not sure if I could have pushed anymore here" and "I really wanted to go here, but I just couldn't pull enough of a deep breathe here to really go. I felt pretty good, and my mind said go, but my body wasn't ready."
He was able to pick it up at the end (last two miles 8:13 and 8:12), but even with that they were slower than 8:05. If he took this race too easy and was capable of running a half at 8:05 pace, I think these two miles would have been significantly faster.
In my opinion ChiefD is being too hard on himself about the effort he gave during the half. You can give all the effort you want, but if you attempt to run a pace beyond your fitness things will go poorly in races as long as a half marathon.