And people wonder why they're all pissed off all the time.Sand said:Glad I'm not here - Suck Index of 205. Didn't know that was possible.
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  ):Awesome!I don't like to brag on facebook about running stuff so I guess I will here. I just had the best run of my life, I think, this evening. It was 6.51 miles in 55:54. My first mile split was 7:43 and I was in the 8's on all the other mile splits. I didn't stop and walk or stop for water which has not happened this summer. I just felt like I had "it" when I started out and kept that feeling the whole run. I wish every run could be like that.
Those days are what keep most of us coming back for more.I don't like to brag on facebook about running stuff so I guess I will here. I just had the best run of my life, I think, this evening. It was 6.51 miles in 55:54. My first mile split was 7:43 and I was in the 8's on all the other mile splits. I didn't stop and walk or stop for water which has not happened this summer. I just felt like I had "it" when I started out and kept that feeling the whole run. I wish every run could be like that.
 
 I know, I hate them both.Look at these guys splits in their first 5ks!? Nigel with a negative split and walkmen almost dead even. Guys look like pros!
 
 Date       Run    Pace    HR    Suck Index08/16/14   17/8   7:24    163   11709/07/14   18/10  7:23    163   13010/05/14   18/12  7:10    165   9011/09/14   20/14  7:10    165   88------------------------------------------06/20/15   17/8   7:19    166   13807/18/15   18/10  7:12    164   14408/01/15   18/12  7:08    164   141Get outta here. I probably won't try any marathon pace runs until September. The weather here has been so horrible lately. SI was 150 at 5AM yesterday. My goal is just survive long runs for now.Nice week, Ned! It's great you, pbm and I all passed MP tests on the same weekend. (Hang 10 needs to be next!)
That's awesome. Reminds me of when the driver is working in golf - the scores/numbers don't always reflect that sensation of being in a zone and having mastery of your body (not an euphemism for beating off... this time).I don't like to brag on facebook about running stuff so I guess I will here. I just had the best run of my life, I think, this evening. It was 6.51 miles in 55:54. My first mile split was 7:43 and I was in the 8's on all the other mile splits. I didn't stop and walk or stop for water which has not happened this summer. I just felt like I had "it" when I started out and kept that feeling the whole run. I wish every run could be like that.
Nice! That always bugged me about strava (I'm OCD), but I think they just a factor of how strava converts the TomTom files and then they truncate the number since they only display to the tenth. I'm betting it was probably read as 7.38 but shows as 7.3.just ran my longest run since June 20.

60 min @ 145bpm according to my watch and mapmyride, 7.42. Strava lists 7.3.
Felt great! Nice morning out here, SI almost perfect.
 
   
 You came to the wrong place if you're looking to be talked out of buying it!Just bought a Garmin 220 earlier this year but I'm starting to get an itchy trigger finger to buy a new 225. Would really love to ditch the heart rate strap as the fail rate at the end of these runs has been really high lately.
 
 You have the TomTom? I assume the accuracy is pretty decent since your data looks good on strava.You came to the wrong place if you're looking to be talked out of buying it!Just bought a Garmin 220 earlier this year but I'm starting to get an itchy trigger finger to buy a new 225. Would really love to ditch the heart rate strap as the fail rate at the end of these runs has been really high lately.
I'll never go back to the chest strap unless the new integrated HRMs start causing hands to fall off.
Yeah I bought it when it first came out. Can only recall maybe 2-3x where the HR data was wonky. 1 of which was during a raceYou have the TomTom? I assume the accuracy is pretty decent since your data looks good on strava.You came to the wrong place if you're looking to be talked out of buying it!Just bought a Garmin 220 earlier this year but I'm starting to get an itchy trigger finger to buy a new 225. Would really love to ditch the heart rate strap as the fail rate at the end of these runs has been really high lately.
I'll never go back to the chest strap unless the new integrated HRMs start causing hands to fall off.
 I think Nigel had some issues, but it was resolved with the latest software push?
   I think Nigel had some issues, but it was resolved with the latest software push?You came to the wrong place if you're looking to be talked out of buying it!Just bought a Garmin 220 earlier this year but I'm starting to get an itchy trigger finger to buy a new 225. Would really love to ditch the heart rate strap as the fail rate at the end of these runs has been really high lately.
I'll never go back to the chest strap unless the new integrated HRMs start causing hands to fall off.
 agreed
   agreedYeah, I remember Nigel having problems. Nigel, all good now?Yeah I bought it when it first came out. Can only recall maybe 2-3x where the HR data was wonky. 1 of which was during a raceYou have the TomTom? I assume the accuracy is pretty decent since your data looks good on strava.You came to the wrong place if you're looking to be talked out of buying it!Just bought a Garmin 220 earlier this year but I'm starting to get an itchy trigger finger to buy a new 225. Would really love to ditch the heart rate strap as the fail rate at the end of these runs has been really high lately.
I'll never go back to the chest strap unless the new integrated HRMs start causing hands to fall off.I think Nigel had some issues, but it was resolved with the latest software push?
Its definitely a different watch from the Garmins, but I have no itch to try any of the newer stuff.
What do you have?You came to the wrong place if you're looking to be talked out of buying it!Just bought a Garmin 220 earlier this year but I'm starting to get an itchy trigger finger to buy a new 225. Would really love to ditch the heart rate strap as the fail rate at the end of these runs has been really high lately.
I'll never go back to the chest strap unless the new integrated HRMs start causing hands to fall off.agreed
https://www.tomtom.com/en_us/sports/multi-sport/products/multi-sport-cardio-gps-watch/white-red/What do you have?You came to the wrong place if you're looking to be talked out of buying it!Just bought a Garmin 220 earlier this year but I'm starting to get an itchy trigger finger to buy a new 225. Would really love to ditch the heart rate strap as the fail rate at the end of these runs has been really high lately.
I'll never go back to the chest strap unless the new integrated HRMs start causing hands to fall off.agreed
Are you sure you need a new watch to ditch the chest strap?Just bought a Garmin 220 earlier this year but I'm starting to get an itchy trigger finger to buy a new 225. Would really love to ditch the heart rate strap as the fail rate at the end of these runs has been really high lately.
I still have the occasional run where it gives me impossibly high readings, like the 5k I just ran. I know a few others besides guys from here who have it and have no issues.Yeah, I remember Nigel having problems. Nigel, all good now?Yeah I bought it when it first came out. Can only recall maybe 2-3x where the HR data was wonky. 1 of which was during a raceYou have the TomTom? I assume the accuracy is pretty decent since your data looks good on strava.You came to the wrong place if you're looking to be talked out of buying it!Just bought a Garmin 220 earlier this year but I'm starting to get an itchy trigger finger to buy a new 225. Would really love to ditch the heart rate strap as the fail rate at the end of these runs has been really high lately.I'll never go back to the chest strap unless the new integrated HRMs start causing hands to fall off.
I think Nigel had some issues, but it was resolved with the latest software push?Its definitely a different watch from the Garmins, but I have no itch to try any of the newer stuff.
Great week once again Ned, my only concern about you making your goal is the race day temperature. The fitness is and will be there. Be careful with that back.81.74mi for the week. This weekend was a great weekend. I compared last year's MP runs to this year. I knew I was close to last year, but had forgotten about the suck index. I can't wait to get some cooler weather.
I knew that would get a reaction!I may just quit wearing it for a while.
Not as much out there for running, but when I get the 520 with live Strava segments my legs may well simply implode one day chasing these things.<--- Another victim falling to the Strava segments. At the moment, I only use Strava for biking as I don't have GPS watch and hate armbands. Still, with my 10+ year old mountain bike and street clothes, I got 2nd in a segment for this year and missed 1st by 4 seconds on Saturday's ride. Did I plan to go out for a leisurely ride this morning only to ignore that and crank out 1st for the year? Of course!
Scared to think of what I'd do if (when) I get that for running.
Ugh, so weird. Same experience for me, except I think I'm getting sick. Totally zapped and felt woozy. Legs were DEAD.Failed my tempo run today, I just couldn't get the legs going. I ended up bailing after 1.3 miles around tempo pace. The HR stayed low so I can't blame it on the temperature. I don't think I recovered from my Marathon Pace run on Sun. I am over it, it helps being on vacation.
One thing I've learned about myself is I need at least 2 days to recover from anything marathon pace or faster. I wouldn't even attempt that.Failed my tempo run today, I just couldn't get the legs going. I ended up bailing after 1.3 miles around tempo pace. The HR stayed low so I can't blame it on the temperature. I don't think I recovered from my Marathon Pace run on Sun. I am over it, it helps being on vacation.
This would be me.We're doing it wrong, fellas.
Donut Race
2014 Results
Highest female was 21 donuts. Highest male was 28!
Holy crap that pic is killing me for some reason.This would be me.We're doing it wrong, fellas.
Donut Race
2014 Results
Highest female was 21 donuts. Highest male was 28!
 
 Ugh, so weird. Same experience for me, except I think I'm getting sick. Totally zapped and felt woozy. Legs were DEAD.Failed my tempo run today, I just couldn't get the legs going. I ended up bailing after 1.3 miles around tempo pace. The HR stayed low so I can't blame it on the temperature. I don't think I recovered from my Marathon Pace run on Sun. I am over it, it helps being on vacation.
I couldn't get myself to finish the run at all and just went home. Totally disappointed.
I am with Juxt here. Trying to come back and do a 2nd workout after 1 easy day is kind of risky (in PBM's case and even 2 days after a high-volume workout like 12 @ MP (for Ned is still about a 50/50 proposition in my personal experience. I I think those long tempos/MPs don't beat you as much physically as doing something like 8-12x800s or mile repeats @ 5K pace but they tend to drain you in a slightly more unnoticeable way if that makes sense. (Like you'll feel good after 1-2 days but when you go and try to tap into a faster gear for your next workout is when you find out you're not 100%)One thing I've learned about myself is I need at least 2 days to recover from anything marathon pace or faster. I wouldn't even attempt that.Failed my tempo run today, I just couldn't get the legs going. I ended up bailing after 1.3 miles around tempo pace. The HR stayed low so I can't blame it on the temperature. I don't think I recovered from my Marathon Pace run on Sun. I am over it, it helps being on vacation.
Is your Sunday planned as a brick or separate workouts all together. If its bricks, I LOVED the triple bricks that were part of a HIM plan I did a while back (and find myself wondering why I haven't done more sense). As I recall, I did 3 set of 10 miles biked/2 mile ran that increased to 15/3 towards the end of the cycle. Being aStill struggling to balance everything, but I think I've come to a workable schedule for the next month.
M: Long Run
T: Weights, swim
W: Bike for speed (mostly intervals)
T: Run
F: Weights, swim
Sa: Long bike
Su: Bike, Run
that gives me 3 run, 3 bike, 2 weight and 2 swim
 I would even set up a transition rack for some of the to practice these during some of them.
  I would even set up a transition rack for some of the to practice these during some of them.It's a brick. Haven't gotten into the triple brick yet.Is your Sunday planned as a brick or separate workouts all together. If its bricks, I LOVED the triple bricks that were part of a HIM plan I did a while back (and find myself wondering why I haven't done more sense). As I recall, I did 3 set of 10 miles biked/2 mile ran that increased to 15/3 towards the end of the cycle. Being aStill struggling to balance everything, but I think I've come to a workable schedule for the next month.
M: Long Run
T: Weights, swim
W: Bike for speed (mostly intervals)
T: Run
F: Weights, swim
Sa: Long bike
Su: Bike, Run
that gives me 3 run, 3 bike, 2 weight and 2 swimI would even set up a transition rack for some of the to practice these during some of them.
I like the sounds of this workout, will give it a go tomorrow morning.Hang 10 said:Another beautiful morning at the beach with 152 SI at 6AM! Ran 9 miles this morning and did some half marathon pace intervals. 2 x 2 x 1
This went slightly better than my last similar workout 2 weeks ago.
1 mile warmup
6:48(171)
6:39(183)
8:21 RI
6:42(184)
6:32 (189)
8:43 RI
6:38 (184)
I could definitely do a better job pacing but other than the end of the second 2 mile interval, I didn't feel like I was overworking myself. Would love to try one of these workouts with good weather. I really don't have a great idea of what my current fitness is at this point.
It was kinda born out of necessity. I had 9 with 4 @ half marathon pace on the schedule but because the weather was nasty, I decided to break up the 4 miles. Then because I made it easier, I added one more mile repeat. It seemed to workout pretty well.I like the sounds of this workout, will give it a go tomorrow morning.Hang 10 said:Another beautiful morning at the beach with 152 SI at 6AM! Ran 9 miles this morning and did some half marathon pace intervals. 2 x 2 x 1
This went slightly better than my last similar workout 2 weeks ago.
1 mile warmup
6:48(171)
6:39(183)
8:21 RI
6:42(184)
6:32 (189)
8:43 RI
6:38 (184)
I could definitely do a better job pacing but other than the end of the second 2 mile interval, I didn't feel like I was overworking myself. Would love to try one of these workouts with good weather. I really don't have a great idea of what my current fitness is at this point.
