Ran a 10k - Official Thread (13 Viewers)

[Sand]

About the same here.  145 is about right, though I'll let it get up to 149 before I slow down intentionally. 

My max is 188 and when I was running (hoping to start again in the fall) I'd feel let down if I didn't average at least 155, more often 160.

Then again, I'm an idiot when I run, so there's that.

 

[-OZ-]

Page 5?

Went for an easy jog today, was thinking 5 miles as my leg muscles, quads and calves feel fine. BUT - Ankles and ligaments felt really tender so it became a 3 mile walk. 

I'll probably be in the pool the rest of the week. 

 

[SFBayDuck]

Page 5?

Went for an easy jog today, was thinking 5 miles as my leg muscles, quads and calves feel fine. BUT - Ankles and ligaments felt really tender so it became a 3 mile walk. 

I'll probably be in the pool the rest of the week. 

I feel ya - 4 mile hike with a little jogging thrown in for me.  Achilles was a little tight so took it really easy.

 

[JShare87]

I'm really enjoying the Strava app. It provides more detailed information than my excercise app after runs. However, I don't think I will be using the app when I have a race, only for training. The interface during runs is pretty new for the Apple Watch and doesn't offer much during runs. It did let me manually upload my half marathon so that was pretty cool. I have 2 questions about Strava. What does suffer score on Strava mean? Also, does anyone think the calories are a little high for each workout? My Apple Watch generally says my workouts are about 200 calories less then what the Strava app says. 

 

[mr. furley]

why not use it for your races?

 

[JShare87]

why not use it for your races?

I guess it's kind of complicated for those that don't have an Apple Watch. The Apple Watch excercise app during runs is customizable. I can have 4 or five different options available on the watch while I'm running. Also, it displays the miles a little more in-depth. The Strava app only displays for example 3.1. Whereas the excercise app displays 3.14, so it displays the distances to the hundredths place. Also, the excercise app automatically stays lit up on my screen, so when I turn my wrist to look I can instantly see my data. On the Strava app, there is about a 2 second delay for the watch face to light up. It's only a few minor things, but I just feel more comfortable with the app I've been using for races. Maybe I'll get used to the Strava app or maybe they'll update it and fix the bugs.

 

[Juxtatarot]

@JShare87   The way it works for most of us (I think) is the data automatically sweeps from our watch's application program (in my case Garmin Connect) to Strava when uploaded.  Thus, we're not running a Strava app during the run.  I don't know if you have the option to set that up that way.

I can't answer your question on the Suffer score since I'm too cheap to pay for Strava.  And I hardly pay attention to calories.

 

[JShare87]

@JShare87   The way it works for most of us (I think) is the data automatically sweeps from our watch's application program (in my case Garmin Connect) to Strava when uploaded.  Thus, we're not running a Strava app during the run.  I don't know if you have the option to set that up that way.

I can't answer your question on the Suffer score since I'm too cheap to pay for Strava.  And I hardly pay attention to calories.

I understand. Unfortunately, the Apple Watch doesn't have the ability to upload runs from the excercise app to Strava. It stinks, because I really enjoy the app that is built-in on the watch. I'm sure it will get updated soon. As of now I don't mind using the Strava app to train. 

 

[mr. furley]

blowing steady 30mph out there. gusts up to 50.

here goes nothing

 

[Osaurus]

@JShare87   The way it works for most of us (I think) is the data automatically sweeps from our watch's application program (in my case Garmin Connect) to Strava when uploaded.  Thus, we're not running a Strava app during the run.  I don't know if you have the option to set that up that way.

I can't answer your question on the Suffer score since I'm too cheap to pay for Strava.  And I hardly pay attention to calories.

Yup.  Fitbit Surge here and that's how it works for me.  Interestingly enough, it works the other way too.  Strava to Fitbit app.  

 

[MAC_32]

blowing steady 30mph out there. gusts up to 50.

here goes nothing

By my count I almost got hit by three different flying garbage cans. 

 

[-OZ-]

By my count I almost got hit by three different flying garbage cans. 

Reminds me of home.  

 

[SFBayDuck]

blowing steady 30mph out there. gusts up to 50.

here goes nothing

Godspeed.  55 degrees and sunny here this morning for my 5 miler.  You're a better man than I.

 

[mr. furley]

there were several times when i got blown off course. wild times. going uphill into the wind was.... amazing.  some old guy crossing the street, from about 5 feet away, yelled "you're gonna have to run faster than that, son!"

I WAS GIVING HER ALL I HAD, CAPTAIN

 

[mr. furley]

By my count I almost got hit by three different flying garbage cans. 

surprisingly nothing really flying around out there. nothing big anyways. leaves and ####, of course but no garbage cans or fences. 

around the corner from my house a big ### tree fell right over. uprooted and toppled across the road. didn't think the ground was that soft but it has been fairly warm and wet lately.

 

[tri-man 47]

surprisingly nothing really flying around out there. nothing big anyways. leaves and ####, of course but no garbage cans or fences. 

around the corner from my house a big ### tree fell right over. uprooted and toppled across the road. didn't think the ground was that soft but it has been fairly warm and wet lately.

A contrast in how I read these items.  I don't know why, but I saw the former without the "n" and I thought, "that's good!"  But it was a disturbing image.  I read the latter and assumed you were using a double entendre, and I thought, "that's good!"  It was a pleasant image.  

 

[mr. furley]

 

[pbm107]

Taper madness time for pbm here, and I’m trying to figure out what is possible for on marathon day.  I mentioned this before, but I like to track my fitness by my monthly running totals. 

Predicted Full= Monthly pace - (163-HR)*3 with the idea that each HR increase=3 sec/mile

The accuracy is far from perfect but so far it has been a useful metric in comparing my fitness levels from different training cycles.

You can see from the table below in 2012 my actual exceeded by predict, 2013 actual was close to prediction, Boston 2015 was worse than prediction, and Philly 2015 was worse as well.


Date







Distance







HR







Pace







Predicted Full







Actual







Mar-17



71.96



142







7:43







6:40







 







Feb-17



270.19



138







8:12







6:57







 







Jan-17



253.22



139







8:14







7:02







 







Dec-16



238.86



141







8:27







7:21







 







 



 



 







 







 







 







Nov-15



197.51



139







7:46







6:34







6:50







Oct-15



342.32



137







8:00







6:42







 







Sep-15



269.23



140







8:03







6:54







 







Aug-15



300.41



137







8:10







6:52







 







 



 



 







 







 







 







Apr-15



147.58



145







7:59







7:05







7:09







Mar-15



270.96



137







8:18







7:00







 







Feb-15



263.78



140







8:25







7:16







 







Jan-15



267.04



136







8:42







7:21







 







 



 



 







 







 







 







Nov-13



125.32



147







8:02







7:14







7:10







Oct-13



290.64



141







8:14







7:08







 







Sep-13



202.64



143







8:25







7:25







 







Aug-13



246.45



141







8:40







7:34







 







 



 



 







 







 







 







Nov-12



101.8



154







8:03







7:36







7:24







Oct-12



256.33



143







8:31







7:31







 







Sep-12



211.25



146







8:33







7:42







 







Aug-12



172.28



146







8:35







7:44







 










Philly 2015 still kind of bothers me, I was a monster back then but I peaked as a runner Nov 1 (not just because I met Ned) when I ran a 10k in 36:43. In October of that year was running Marathon Pace miles at 6:40 under 160 (HR was 167 for race).  My marathon result didn’t reflect the fitness level I achieved that cycle and I have been trying to figure it out ever since.

One of my theories is that I might have last fitness over the taper, so I looked closer at my weekly summary data.


Date



Miles



HR



Pace



Estimated MP



11/2/2015



70.49



134







7:53







6:26







11/9/2015



55.12



135







7:58







6:34







11/16/2015*



37.01



133







8:13







6:43






*doesn’t include marathon on Sunday

Generally I don’t look weekly data because it can be noisy and one run where your heart rate monitor acts funny can too greatly affect the weekly numbers.  Perhaps this is evidence that I lost some fitness over the taper.  My take away from this that I backed off the intensity too much during the taper and this might have negatively impacted me on race day.  For my current cycle I wanted to include strides and increase the running intensity. 

So here is where I currently stand:


Date



Miles



HR



Pace



Estimated MP



2/27/2017



60.85



141







7:46







6:40







3/6/2017



24.13



141







7:44







6:38







3/13/2017



 



 







 







 










I am about halfway through the taper and I appear to peaking at the right time. Hopefully over the next two weeks I won’t lose much fitness.  It does kind of leave me with an interesting dilemma.  What do I chose for a marathon pace?  The safe play would be to take the prediction from (6:57 Feb 17) and add 8 secs to it for 7:05 pace.  I really don’t care if I finish at 3:07, 3:05, or 3:03 this cycle has been a success no matter what.  This is all about coming up with a strategy for determining an appropriate marathon pace that could be used for future marathons.  This particular one is challenging as I appear to be improving a lot at the end of the cycle.  I’m leaning towards starting at 7:00 pace and sneaking a peek at my HRM and make adjustments from there if the HR is low enough.      

[SIZE=11pt]Thanks for reading this far, just wanted you guys to know my mindset in case if I crash and burn on race day after running some sub 7 min miles.[/SIZE]

 

[Nigel]

I don't have enough experience to off any advice @pbm107 but your analytics are impressive. Looking forward to following along, whatever pace you choose. 

 

[Ned]

@pbm107 - In my experience, those sudden jumps in fitness can be a death sentence on race day.  I'd opt for the 7:00-7:05 strategy and adjust after the half.  

Have you ever looked at your breakdown of workouts for each month?  Things can be skewed if your month was heavier on MP/tempo/speedwork vs. a base month.  Can Mar-17 be a big jump because you've got some speedwork in there?  You're also only 9 days into the month, so today's 1600m repeats is going to carry a heavier weighting.

Love nerdin' it up.

 

[pbm107]

In my experience, those sudden jumps in fitness can be a death sentence on race day.  I'd opt for the 7:00-7:05 strategy and adjust after the half.  

I agree this would be the smart thing to do, and will likely go that route.

Have you ever looked at your breakdown of workouts for each month?  Things can be skewed if your month was heavier on MP/tempo/speedwork vs. a base month.  Can Mar-17 be a big jump because you've got some speedwork in there?  You're also only 9 days into the month, so today's 1600m repeats is going to carry a heavier weighting.

Good question, Feb (3rd month of the cycle is where I typically see a big jump in fitness) was kind of disappointing; however it is where I first introduced speedwork into training and was my heaviest mileage.  Perhaps it took some time to adjust that, I am not sure.  I do have a streak going where my last 11 runs have been at an efficiency of 6:52 MP or faster, I have never had a streak like this.

 

[Juxtatarot]

@pbm107 Philly 2015 bothers you because of your HR on race day, right?  I thought you were pretty locked in to the sub 3 goal and didn't think you were trying for anything faster.  In this thread we've talked before about how HR can be higher on race day due to nerves, the crowd, etc. Probably at least some of the increase is due to that.

We're much different in our approach to picking paces.  You're very numbers oriented (Duh!) while I NEED to prove things to myself with strong training runs.  My initial thoughts were to suggest you run that 12 with 6 at MP (or something close to that)  a week before the race that's in the schedules in the McMillan book and decide from how you feel during that run.  However, I acknowledge this is the Juxt way of doing things instead of the pbm way.  

 

[pbm107]

Philly 2015 bothers you because of your HR on race day, right?

That is part of it, but I don't think my marathon time reflects the fitness I gained during that cycle.  I believe if I ran that marathon Nov 1 instead Nov 22 I would have had a faster finish time.  How much faster, I don't know.

My initial thoughts were to suggest you run that 12 with 6 at MP (or something close to that)  a week before the race that's in the schedules in the McMillan book and decide from how you feel during that run.  However, I acknowledge this is the Juxt way of doing things instead of the pbm way.

I think that would be too depleting for me to run 6 at MP, I have 13 scheduled for Sunday and I may run the last couple at MP.

 

[Ned]

I agree this would be the smart thing to do, and will likely go that route.

Good question, Feb (3rd month of the cycle is where I typically see a big jump in fitness) was kind of disappointing; however it is where I first introduced speedwork into training and was my heaviest mileage.  Perhaps it took some time to adjust that, I am not sure.  I do have a streak going where my last 11 runs have been at an efficiency of 6:52 MP or faster, I have never had a streak like this.

Double whammy.

 

[Juxtatarot]

@pbm107

I reread your Philly 15 race report and noticed this response shortly after...

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/724983-ran-a-10k-fubar-drinking-pina-coladas-for-12hrs/?page=154#comment-18623167

Interesting that your HR race day has been higher than your 163 target three out of four.

 

[pbm107]

Interesting that your HR race day has been higher than your 163 target three out of four.

Yeah for MP training runs I am expecting to stay under 163, but on race day I am expecting to average around 167.

 

[ChiefD]

First day of Naples, FL running in the books. 11 year old son decided he wanted to run "with my daddy." 

So off we went. One mile ln the beach down to the pier, took a quick walk on the pier and saw a dolphin, which was way cool. Then another 1.2 miles of run/walk combo on the street talking and looking at all the mansions on the way. Nice and slow, but a cool experience.

 

[Juxtatarot]

It will be a balmy 18 degrees for my 5K tomorrow.  Coldest morning I think in about a month.

 

[pbm107]

It will be a balmy 18 degrees for my 5K tomorrow.  Coldest morning I think in about a month.

Good luck.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Good luck.

Thanks.  I don't think I'll try for a PR but it will be nice to run hard and race again.  It's been awhile.

Edit: Actually, it won't be nice.  It will be terrible.  But you know what I mean...

 

[pbm107]

Thanks.  I don't think I'll try for a PR but it will be nice to run hard and race again.  It's been awhile.

Edit: Actually, it won't be nice.  It will be terrible.  But you know what I mean...

I am sure the first mile will be at PR pace.  The good thing about a 5K is that by the time you are suffering there is only 1.5 miles to go, but then those 9 minutes last forever.

 

[mr. furley]

by the time you are suffering there is only 1.5 miles to go, but then those 9 minutes last forever.

yes. yes, exactly. 9 minutes. 

:(

 

[Hang 10]

@pbm107 I would advise you to just tuck behind the 3:05 pacer for as long as you've got a headwind. The forecast( I know it's early but this is pretty typical of this race) is calling for strong N winds(27 mph with 44 gust). The good news is that you'll have a tailwind for the last 5. 

@Juxtatarot Good luck!

I had an interesting run the other day. I started running with a group that runs through my hood most mornings lately and pretty much all of them are on strava. All in pretty good shape. I mentioned to them that I had created a new segment that we pretty much cross every morning. One of the guys asked me who had the course record and I respond like a total arrogant #####, "me after today". Well, this got the competitive juices flowing apparently. One guy responds with "I guess we're racing!". It's funny that you could see my HR spike with just the thought of a mini race. 

As we approach the segment one of the guy says he's going to see how long he can hang on to me. He's got good speed. I think he's run a sub 20 5K pretty recently. The segment is a bending arch that's just a hair under 600m. Probably right at 1/3 of a mile. Right before we're about to pick it up we're discussing how far it is..."is it a quarter of a mile?" "I think it's a bit further than that". This brief conversation was is funny in retrospect.

Anyway, so I pick it up a tad right before we turn down the arch and then try to lay down a nice smooth stride. My legs feel decent. I feel like I'm moving pretty well but I'm not checking pace or anything. I know my HR is getting pretty high quick though. My man is hanging right there. I'm not really looking over so I'm not sure how hard he's working. I think I'm faster than him but you never know at such a short distance. We round the first corner and he's still right with me. Round the second corner and I'm thinking this is the home stretch. I notice him starting to falter and I figure if I pick it up I can knock him out. I surge and drop him but much to dismay I realize I went a bit too early. There's probably a good 200m left. But I've committed and try to hang on. Finish a good bit ahead but it was harder than I've ran in a LONG time. 2 other guys coming speeding through to the finish as well. Pretty cool that 4 out of 6 guys just said #### and ran a segment like a race on a random Wednesday. 

So we're chatting afterwards and the guy I was racing tells me that he looked his watch when I left him and he said we were running at a 4:30 pace. I kinda look at him in disbelief but sure enough when I got home I had the new course record with a 4:42 pace!  Obviously I never would have ran like that if someone wasn't pushing me. I was pretty stoked to find out I had that in the tank without any speed training.

 

[pbm107]

I would advise you to just tuck behind the 3:05 pacer for as long as you've got a headwind. The forecast( I know it's early but this is pretty typical of this race) is calling for strong N winds(27 mph with 44 gust). The good news is that you'll have a tailwind for the last 5. 

Thanks the forecast I am looking at isn't that bad, hopefully yours is the inaccurate one.  That is concerning.

So we're chatting afterwards and the guy I was racing tells me that he looked his watch when I left him and he said we were running at a 4:30 pace. I kinda look at him in disbelief but sure enough when I got home I had the new course record with a 4:42 pace!

That is flying, you have only scratched the surface of your potential.  I wish I had someone to train with, I lost all my training partners with my job change.

 

[Hang 10]

Thanks the forecast I am looking at isn't that bad, hopefully yours is the inaccurate one.  That is concerning.

That is flying, you have only scratched the surface of your potential.  I wish I had someone to train with, I lost all my training partners with my job change.

Actually, just looked it up again and you're right it looks pretty great. Wind out of the NW at only 10-15. Good temps too. I'll tell ya, it can't be anyway worse than last year. 

 

[Ned]

@pbm107 I would advise you to just tuck behind the 3:05 pacer for as long as you've got a headwind. The forecast( I know it's early but this is pretty typical of this race) is calling for strong N winds(27 mph with 44 gust). The good news is that you'll have a tailwind for the last 5. 

@Juxtatarot Good luck!

I had an interesting run the other day. I started running with a group that runs through my hood most mornings lately and pretty much all of them are on strava. All in pretty good shape. I mentioned to them that I had created a new segment that we pretty much cross every morning. One of the guys asked me who had the course record and I respond like a total arrogant #####, "me after today". Well, this got the competitive juices flowing apparently. One guy responds with "I guess we're racing!". It's funny that you could see my HR spike with just the thought of a mini race. 

As we approach the segment one of the guy says he's going to see how long he can hang on to me. He's got good speed. I think he's run a sub 20 5K pretty recently. The segment is a bending arch that's just a hair under 600m. Probably right at 1/3 of a mile. Right before we're about to pick it up we're discussing how far it is..."is it a quarter of a mile?" "I think it's a bit further than that". This brief conversation was is funny in retrospect.

Anyway, so I pick it up a tad right before we turn down the arch and then try to lay down a nice smooth stride. My legs feel decent. I feel like I'm moving pretty well but I'm not checking pace or anything. I know my HR is getting pretty high quick though. My man is hanging right there. I'm not really looking over so I'm not sure how hard he's working. I think I'm faster than him but you never know at such a short distance. We round the first corner and he's still right with me. Round the second corner and I'm thinking this is the home stretch. I notice him starting to falter and I figure if I pick it up I can knock him out. I surge and drop him but much to dismay I realize I went a bit too early. There's probably a good 200m left. But I've committed and try to hang on. Finish a good bit ahead but it was harder than I've ran in a LONG time. 2 other guys coming speeding through to the finish as well. Pretty cool that 4 out of 6 guys just said #### and ran a segment like a race on a random Wednesday. 

So we're chatting afterwards and the guy I was racing tells me that he looked his watch when I left him and he said we were running at a 4:30 pace. I kinda look at him in disbelief but sure enough when I got home I had the new course record with a 4:42 pace!  Obviously I never would have ran like that if someone wasn't pushing me. I was pretty stoked to find out I had that in the tank without any speed training.

You have no idea how ####### jealous I am.

 

[Hang 10]

You have no idea how ####### jealous I am.

I knew you guys would love it. Strava is awesome. 

Hoping that you get back to chasing CR's too here sooner rather than later. 

 

[Juxtatarot]

@Hang 10  I saw that segment on Strava.  Mighty impressive!  I'm not sure I could even dash 40 yards at 4:30.

 

[MAC_32]

@Hang 10  I saw that segment on Strava.  Mighty impressive!  I'm not sure I could even dash 40 yards at 4:30.

Oh, I think you could.

 

[Ned]

@Hang 10  I saw that segment on Strava.  Mighty impressive!  I'm not sure I could even dash 40 yards at 4:30.

Oh, I think you could.

Rich Eisen's 5.94 40yd dash is a 4:08 pace.  I'll go out on a limb and wager that Juxt is faster than Rich.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Rich Eisen's 5.94 40yd dash is a 4:08 pace.  I'll go out on a limb and wager that Juxt is faster than Rich.

Maybe you guys are right but I remember running a short .2 mile Strava segment at a hair under 5:00 and it was close to sprinting.  I've never been much of a sprinter.  Maybe I should get on the track and play around.  I've been wondering about my sprint speed (or lack thereof) for a while.

What could you guys sprint 50 yards at?  (And let's allow running starts.)

 

[tri-man 47]

pbm -

Not to sound like a broken record, but: You've got so much great data to work with.  Yet you're trying to guess what pace to run by starting at a predetermined pace and then 'sneak a peek' at HR.  Why not reverse that?  You know where your HR should be.  So use it!  ..and then sneak a peek at pace, if you like.  Particularly if you have winds to deal with, they'll affect pace.  But the HR doesn't care about wind, or crowds, or any of those factors.  The HR will just do what it needs to do to fuel your muscles.  It's totally objective.  Totally.

My advice is to push the first half mile or mile, which brings the HR up to a good effort (probably mid/high 150s).  Then settle in at a controllable HR.  You should be able to maintain a rather steady HR for the first 10-12 miles or more before it begins to creep up through the 160s and into the 170s and even 180s (bringing the average to the high 160s).  In good conditions, with normal HR patterns, the first half+ of a marathon is actually quite relaxing because you know where you're at - no guessing as to whether you've picked the right pace for the day.    

--

Hang 10 - awesome story!

Juxt - have a great race!

 

[Hang 10]

Maybe you guys are right but I remember running a short .2 mile Strava segment at a hair under 5:00 and it was close to sprinting.  I've never been much of a sprinter.  Maybe I should get on the track and play around.  I've been wondering about my sprint speed (or lack thereof) for a while.

What could you guys sprint 50 yards at?  (And let's allow running starts.)

Maybe we should pick a week and have everyone run their fastest 1/4 mile on Strava and see what kind of top end we've got. Summer would be a good time for that when most aren't racing.

 

[Juxtatarot]

@tri-man 47  Did you see Brony's and my invitation to you for a late May 5K?

 

[Ned]

Maybe you guys are right but I remember running a short .2 mile Strava segment at a hair under 5:00 and it was close to sprinting.  I've never been much of a sprinter.  Maybe I should get on the track and play around.  I've been wondering about my sprint speed (or lack thereof) for a while.

What could you guys sprint 50 yards at?  (And let's allow running starts.)

Maybe we should pick a week and have everyone run their fastest 1/4 mile on Strava and see what kind of top end we've got. Summer would be a good time for that when most aren't racing.

Suonds like fun.  Hopefully my ankle is done being an ####### by then.

I think I can break 7sec for the 50yd dash with a running start.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Maybe we should pick a week and have everyone run their fastest 1/4 mile on Strava and see what kind of top end we've got. Summer would be a good time for that when most aren't racing.

Here's my .2 mile segment.   (I think you can see me under the leader board.)  This was the run I was thinking of.  I averaged 4:55 pace and that was almost as fast as I can go.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Maybe we should pick a week and have everyone run their fastest 1/4 mile on Strava and see what kind of top end we've got. Summer would be a good time for that when most aren't racing.

The last weekend in June I'm going to get a good 100.1 mile warmup and then see what I've got left on the track in Auburn for the final home stretch.

 

[-OZ-]

Maybe we should pick a week and have everyone run their fastest 1/4 mile on Strava and see what kind of top end we've got. Summer would be a good time for that when most aren't racing.

I'm the tortoise.  

 

[pbm107]

You know where your HR should be.  So use it!

I think I know what my marathon HR should be, but I am not sure.  Likewise I think I know what kind of pace I am capable but I am not sure.  Both are reasoned estimates, but still just estimates.

Ideally early in the race the numbers will make sense with my goal pace at or below the expected HR, and I would run the race exactly as you described.  This would be perfect.

So far I have had an easier time predicting pace than predicting marathon heartrate.

Going into my last marathon I thought 163 was my magic number for a marathon heartrate since I ran close to even splits when I did that.  So early in the race when running at goal pace I checked the HR and it showed 166, I had to make a decision which estimate do I trust the pace estimate or the HR estimate.  I choose the pace estimate and went on to negative split the race.  If I would have raced by HR I would have ran a slower race.

As I get more experience running marathons hopefully I get better with both the pace and HR estimates and will be able to race by HR.  Hopefully this will be the first one, believe me I would love to race a marathon like you do.

 

[mr. furley]

cut work early today because i had the running bug   slated to run 8 but my watch wouldn't pick up the satellite signal so i just went for time and mapped the route afterwards.

9 miles! pretty happy with myself considering the last couple months have been a slog for some reason.  maybe it's watching the watch instead of just running to run.