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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (6 Viewers)

Let's turn those pleasantly proportioned fat(? :unsure: )* ? 's , into flat ?'s!  We should all know by now that flat is where it's at!  

*this is an extremely upbeat & positive thread where even Delawareans & Georgians can get along...if I transgressed, just run, bike & swim 2 more miles out of spite.  That'll learn me.
Those are some weird looking man boob emoticons. 

 
How often you guys run per week?  I am still walking the majority of the time so I can go out everyday.  If I end up jogging, am I going to have to take some rest days?  I go out for about 50-55 minutes, 1-2x day right now.

 
How often you guys run per week?  I am still walking the majority of the time so I can go out everyday.  If I end up jogging, am I going to have to take some rest days?  I go out for about 50-55 minutes, 1-2x day right now.
It varies, from 3 days a week up to 7 (and some doing more than 1 run a day).  If you build up slowly and run easy (conversational pace - ie your breathing is easy enough that you can speak in sentences), then any "rest days" could just be walking, which you're already doing anyway.  Start with something like Couch to 5K (I did!) as it begins with alternating running and walking and builds up over time to running 30 minutes straight.  

 
It varies, from 3 days a week up to 7 (and some doing more than 1 run a day).  If you build up slowly and run easy (conversational pace - ie your breathing is easy enough that you can speak in sentences), then any "rest days" could just be walking, which you're already doing anyway.  Start with something like Couch to 5K (I did!) as it begins with alternating running and walking and builds up over time to running 30 minutes straight.  
Great advice.  I'm no way near as seasoned as most of the guys in here.  I usually run (although not lately) 3-5 times a week varying the distance between 5k and 10k.  Race weeks are usually higher.  I'm striving to average 20-30 miles/week by the Fall and remain consistent.  Bum leg now so more walking (6 miles this morning  :excited: ) through next week plus more gym time which is perfect for Florida Summers.  

So take it real easy and gradually work you way up.  I couldn't even run a mile without sucking wind three years ago.  Now I'm disappointed if I do after 5 miles.  Enjoy it and don't take it all so seriously.    

 
How often you guys run per week?  I am still walking the majority of the time so I can go out everyday.  If I end up jogging, am I going to have to take some rest days?  I go out for about 50-55 minutes, 1-2x day right now.
If you work into a run routine, you might use a couple days a week for rest OR cross-training of some sort.  And it's fine to use a run/walk mix.  Over time, you'll increase the percentage of run time, and eventually you'll just make it a continuous run.  As always, you're encouraged to stay active here so we can enjoy your progress!

The Juxt-Brody-Tri 5K went great today.  Two AG wins sandwiching one barrier busted!  More to come ...

 
How often you guys run per week?  I am still walking the majority of the time so I can go out everyday.  If I end up jogging, am I going to have to take some rest days?  I go out for about 50-55 minutes, 1-2x day right now.
5-6 runs, 2-3 strength training. 

Off days vary. I rarely go 3 weeks without a rest day and I'll take back-to-back off probablyevery 6-8 weeks. 

It's taken a long time to get to this point though. If you're just getting started then I recommend every other day and strength training in between with one rest day per week.

 
Great to join up with Chicago area FBGs and enjoy a 5K on a brisk Saturday morning!  My first meet-up with tri-man and it had been a long time since I was able to run a proper race with Juxt so great event on both accounts for me. 

No t-storms today, but there was a nice downpour that lasted probably 30 seconds around the 2 mile mark.  Temp was 52 and windy, but the course was pretty well insulated from wind as we ran on streets through tree-lined neighborhood. 

I've been very ginger with my calf the past couple of weeks, but came into today's race with the calf in very good shape and legs rested, but very few quality miles booked the last few weeks.  I felt in worse shape than my 5K a month ago.  Despite that, today's race went well.  The start of the race was a little early so took a couple few to get my watch reset and my music going, but it was just a tiny speed bump.  Found myself just behind Juxt for the first mile and came through mile 1 around 6:05.  Fell into a nice pace (Juxt fell into a nicer pace) after that.  Came through mile 2 at 12:30.  I was very pleased to see a 12:xx instead of a 13:xx at this marker.  that usually doesn't happen.  Kept clipping along at the same pace for 3rd mile and it was definitely work, but hit the 3 mile mark at 19:00 even and I knew that sub-20 was going to happen, just a matter of the final time. 

Final time: 19:41 chip.   5th overall.  3rd in AG. 

Sub-20.  (I did it!!!)  Very nice personal milestone over a 4 year rocky journey. 

Thanks to Juxt for finding a mutually convenient 5K in the Chicago burbs and good of tri-man to do a non-swimming race in his prime training time for his triathlon!  I'll let them give their own version of the race, but I'll leave you with an image of middle-aged stud-li-ness.  Look forward to more Chicago cornhole trois (god I hope that name doesn't stick). 

 
Great to join up with Chicago area FBGs and enjoy a 5K on a brisk Saturday morning!  My first meet-up with tri-man and it had been a long time since I was able to run a proper race with Juxt so great event on both accounts for me. 

No t-storms today, but there was a nice downpour that lasted probably 30 seconds around the 2 mile mark.  Temp was 52 and windy, but the course was pretty well insulated from wind as we ran on streets through tree-lined neighborhood. 

I've been very ginger with my calf the past couple of weeks, but came into today's race with the calf in very good shape and legs rested, but very few quality miles booked the last few weeks.  I felt in worse shape than my 5K a month ago.  Despite that, today's race went well.  The start of the race was a little early so took a couple few to get my watch reset and my music going, but it was just a tiny speed bump.  Found myself just behind Juxt for the first mile and came through mile 1 around 6:05.  Fell into a nice pace (Juxt fell into a nicer pace) after that.  Came through mile 2 at 12:30.  I was very pleased to see a 12:xx instead of a 13:xx at this marker.  that usually doesn't happen.  Kept clipping along at the same pace for 3rd mile and it was definitely work, but hit the 3 mile mark at 19:00 even and I knew that sub-20 was going to happen, just a matter of the final time. 

Final time: 19:41 chip.   5th overall.  3rd in AG. 

Sub-20.  (I did it!!!)  Very nice personal milestone over a 4 year rocky journey. 

Thanks to Juxt for finding a mutually convenient 5K in the Chicago burbs and good of tri-man to do a non-swimming race in his prime training time for his triathlon!  I'll let them give their own version of the race, but I'll leave you with an image of middle-aged stud-li-ness.  Look forward to more Chicago cornhole trois (god I hope that name doesn't stick). 
F'n tri, best lettuce of the bunch.

great race Brony  :thumbup:

 
Run for the Roses 5K Report

Brony set the stage and the background so I'll quickly get to the race part.  I wasn't exactly sure what to expect for this one.  My PR is 17:50 which is 5:44 pace.  I doubted I had the speed right now to best that but I wanted to make sure to run miles under 6:00.  I guess that was my goal.

Mile 1: 5:50/148 HR

I lined up in the second row to start.  After the initial jockeying and after maybe 100 yards when some young boys dropped back after realizing they wouldn't be able to sprint the entire race, I found myself in 3rd.  The start of the race goes down a hill (and finishes on the same hill).  The rest was pancake flat.  In the first few tenths of a mile I noticed I was running too fast (low 5s) but settled in shortly after.  The guy in first was pulling away.  He finished in 15:40 so certainly a class or two above the rest of us.  The guy in 2nd was maybe 10 seconds ahead of me. A few times I looked back during the first mile to see Brony behind me!  Double checking my pace, I thought he was executing a quality Sand!

Mile 2: 5:54/163

I'm not really gaining or losing ground to the guy in 2nd and I didn't hear anyone behind me.    It was actually nice to follow someone.  The cops weren't doing a good job blocking traffic and the course turns weren't marked well so I could let him concern himself with verifying the route with volunteers.

Mile 3: 5:56/168

I considered making a move for second place but I didn't have a lot left and I was worried about blowing up.  

We finish up the hill and I come in at 18:08.  Second place guy is at 18:00.  I thought he was younger than me but it turns out we're the same age.  I end up 3/150, 2/7 in the race's most competitive age group (2,3,5 overall).  Won a 2nd place in AG medal and a red rose (note the race name).  They had a two-place podium for the AG awards where you had to pose with your rose for a picture.  Let's see if those pictures find their way to the Internet.  Tri-man was particularly handsome at the top of his podium!

 
How often you guys run per week?  I am still walking the majority of the time so I can go out everyday.  If I end up jogging, am I going to have to take some rest days?  I go out for about 50-55 minutes, 1-2x day right now.
definitely varies but I've been fairly consistent this year.  roughly 2 days of some sort of strength training (I keep intending to increase that but haven't), 6-7 days of running this year, a rest day* every week or two.   For the year I've averaged 8.9 miles and 1 hr 12 min / day.  Stretch or roll 3-4x / week.

But yes, it is highly advisable as you increase your intensity and duration, to take rest days and cross-train. 

* this week's rest day consisted of working at a yard sale for 8 hours, a large part of the time I was moving furniture or other heavy things.  It was a fundraiser for our adoption and it went well, but probably not really a "rest" day. 

 
definitely varies but I've been fairly consistent this year.  roughly 2 days of some sort of strength training (I keep intending to increase that but haven't), 6-7 days of running this year, a rest day* every week or two.   For the year I've averaged 8.9 miles and 1 hr 12 min / day.  Stretch or roll 3-4x / week.

But yes, it is highly advisable as you increase your intensity and duration, to take rest days and cross-train. 

* this week's rest day consisted of working at a yard sale for 8 hours, a large part of the time I was moving furniture or other heavy things.  It was a fundraiser for our adoption and it went well, but probably not really a "rest" day. 
Given your current volume I'd be thrilled just to maintain strength as you have. Increasing has got to be damn near impossible!

 
definitely varies but I've been fairly consistent this year.  roughly 2 days of some sort of strength training (I keep intending to increase that but haven't), 6-7 days of running this year, a rest day* every week or two.   For the year I've averaged 8.9 miles and 1 hr 12 min / day.  Stretch or roll 3-4x / week.
Your consistency this year has been incredible.  65-70 miles a week, week in and week out.  Impressive.  

This was my biggest volume week ever for a week that didn't include a 50+ mile race:  12:35, 8,245' of elevation, good for 65.2 miles.  With two runs with higher SteadyState efforts in there as well....I'm tired after today's 4 hr/20 miles/3k' long run.  Might have to go stand in my unheated pool for a bit this afternoon and (literally) chill, although it's a warm 85 degrees or so out.  I'm ready for a rest day tomorrow, but with the Memorial Day Training Runs coming up next weekend, the plan is for the next two weeks to be even bigger.

34 days.  #seeyouinsquaw

 
Final time: 19:41 chip.   5th overall.  3rd in AG. 

Sub-20.  (I did it!!!)  Very nice personal milestone over a 4 year rocky journey. 


Run for the Roses 5K Report

We finish up the hill and I come in at 18:08.  Second place guy is at 18:00.  I thought he was younger than me but it turns out we're the same age.  I end up 3/150, 2/7 in the race's most competitive age group (2,3,5 overall).  Won a 2nd place in AG medal and a red rose (note the race name).  


Speaking of impressive....you guys (and Tri) blow me away.  I literally can't hold that speed for more than about 1 lap around the track (not even sure I can do that right now), and you're holding it for 18-20 minutes.  That's serious mental toughness to push that hard.

 
Run for the Roses 5K

An enjoyable morning!  Always good to see Juxt, and it was a pleasure to meet fast Brony as well.  I was the slacker of the FBG trio.  Weather was great for racing.  I haven't raced since late October, and haven't done any sort of training for a 5K, so my expectations were low.  The only benchmark was a 7:38/mile four mile tempo run a week or two ago.  

We met early and jogged a couple miles and then hung around for the race start ...an odd two-minute early start!  I hung back just a bit in the starting pack.  As we rounded the first turn and settled in, I saw two fellow gray hairs just in front of me.  Since I couldn't anticipate the race pace, I decided my race would be beating them.  One was a long loper, and he faded after a half mile.  The other was a stocky-leg plugger, who I didn't expect to have a big kick, but I passed him easily around the halfway point.  It only got interesting with a half mile to go.  I picked up the pace, since I was feeling rather decent, and saw a younger guy in front of me.  <Ned> Game on!!! </Ned>  As I caught him with a quarter mile to go, he decided to make a race of it.  :sigh:  #amateur  He picked up his pace and actually bumped my elbow.  He apologized, and I just mentioned he wasn't in my AG anyway.  But geez, dude, it's a wide street.  We turned for the last couple hundred yards, and I was flying in my new Saucony's.  A couple early finishers were there, and they were screaming "c'mon dad!  Don't let him beat you, dad!" ...meaning me, the old guy.  The guy was hanging with me, but as we hit the incline finish, I got onto the balls of my feet and popped in for a very fast finish.  I AARPed him.

Mile 1: 7:15

Mile 2: 7:18

Mile 3: 7:10

.1:   5:45 pace

Total: 22:07(7:12/mile) ...1st in AG, 13th/150 overall

Very pleased, given the lack of training!  A fun morning with the boys.

 
A couple early finishers were there, and they were screaming "c'mon dad!  Don't let him beat you, dad!" ...meaning me, the old guy.  The guy was hanging with me, but as we hit the incline finish, I got onto the balls of my feet and popped in for a very fast finish.  I AARPed him.
:lol:

 
Took my son and two of his buddies to the pool yesterday and decided to try out my iWatch swimming laps.  I'm still woefully out of shape and always been slow so I had little expectations other than figure out how well the watch would work.  

I read a couple of things saying the Health app was pretty basic so I installed Swim.com app and pushed it to the watch.  Swam about 700 yards and decided that was enough but the app worked pretty well - or at least it kept accurate distance, time swimming v resting (yes, I have to rest even going 700 yards).  

Anybody else using an app to track swims?  I'll try to do a search in the thread if I can get the search function to work.  

 
 As I caught him with a quarter mile to go, he decided to make a race of it.  :sigh:  #amateur  He picked up his pace and actually bumped my elbow.  He apologized, and I just mentioned he wasn't in my AG anyway.  But geez, dude, it's a wide street.
You returned an elbow to the neck....right?

right?

 
Encouraging couple of weeks, here

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M- Light strength training on heels of last cycle

Tu- 6 mi w/10x stride/sprints, extremely crisp after two very light days

W- Intense enough strength training that I felt I needed a 2 mile cool down afterwards

Th- 17 mi @ 7:28, last 3/7:05-6:54-6:37

F- Light strength training (waist up only) + very easy 5 miles on trails

Sa- 4 mi from track meet to baseball game, mixed in 4 sets of 50 lunges on the way then fast finished too.

Su- off

M- output-wise, best strength training session in 2 years.  Sufficient energy to mix in some incline strides on the post lift run, but I bonked hard on the last one.

Tu- busy day, 9 mi @ 7:33, some hills after work, then hours of yard work

W- 6 recovery

Th- was able to repeat output from Monday's strength training, 4 evening mi in the heat w/three 3 min vO2 intervals- pace varied but net was around 5:15/5:20 pace

F- 6 recovery

Sa- 12 mi @ 7:16, last 3/6:59-6:43-6:14.  Light lifting about 2 hours after.

Su- 2 mi family run/walk, considered continuing on after but could tell during the first run interval my body was asking for an 'off' day.  Still sore today, but energy levels are back.

Total- 77 mi + 6* strength training workouts

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One more cycle then race prep!

 
Some encouraging work here as well:

M: Swim - 1,800 yds (36 laps) 30 laps with paddles at solid :58/lap

T: (am) Run - 8 miles ....(pm) dumbbells

W: (am) Bike - outdoors; 75 minutes * ...(pm) 150 push-ups

Th: (am) Run - 10 miles followed by red pissa ...(pm) Swim - 2,200 yds (44 laps) easy and very steady

F: Bike - 70 minutes, good resistance and rotation

S: Run - 5K race (22:07)

S: (am) Bike - 90 minutes, just a bit off the rotation and held it steady ...(pm) hand grips

*-Finally got outside on the bike, which helped me recall that strong, gusty winds can cool me off, but also slow me down (avg. was only 17+ mph).  Used a neighborhood 1.65 mile loop with hard right turns and some traffic.  When not fighting winds, traffic, or turns, holding 19-20 mph quite well.  Got a big reminder that riding the bike vs. the trainer puts a lot more strain on the wrists, shoulders, and neck, so used the indoor sessions (with weather not cooperating outdoors) to focus on gripping and head up vs. elbow rest and head down.

 
So I've run 2 5K's recently and after checking the HR data afterward I'm wondering what the correlation is between fitness and being able to sustain a near max heart rate. Both races my perceived effort level seemed very high but the history of my HR data says that I left some effort out on the course. At the cross country 5k I averaged a 191 (maxed at 198) and last week I averaged a 192 (maxed at 199). Now those numbers may seem high but I've averaged 195 for a 10K in the past.

Is it possible that you need to be fitter to max out your HR? I would have figured that it would have been the opposite since my cardio isn't that great right now. I should have less trouble getting near my max since my baseline HR is so much higher than when I'm in good shape. 

 
Congrats to threesome in Chicago.

@Brony impressive time especially while dealing with the calf.  Looking forward to seeing what you could do if you were injury free for an extended period of time.

@Juxtatarot it looks like you are fully recovered from the marathon, you seem to recover from races very quickly.

@tri-man 47 I happy to see that you are back racing and congrats on the age group win.

There has been a lot of really good training here, here are some of my Strava observations:

@SFBayDuck ran for 12 hrs 35 min this past week and 53 hrs 10 min for the month of April.  I’d be surprised if anyone but Steve has reached those running only numbers.

@SteelCurtain ran for 70.1 last week.

@-OZ- only ran for 65.8 bringing his 4 week average down to 69.4.

@SteveC702 ran 141 miles for the week and 45 within 24 hours.

 
Is it possible that you need to be fitter to max out your HR? I would have figured that it would have been the opposite since my cardio isn't that great right now. I should have less trouble getting near my max since my baseline HR is so much higher than when I'm in good shape. 
I am the opposite, the fitter I am the more difficult it is for me to get to my max HR.  I can only approach my max HR if the conditions are brutal, Misery Index in the 150s, at the end of a 5K.  In good conditions I can be puking at the end of a race and never get with 10 bpm of my max.

 
I am the opposite, the fitter I am the more difficult it is for me to get to my max HR.  I can only approach my max HR if the conditions are brutal, Misery Index in the 150s, at the end of a 5K.  In good conditions I can be puking at the end of a race and never get with 10 bpm of my max.
@Hang 10  This is my experience too.  (Besides the puking part.)

 
I thought so too but yesterday I seemed to have strained my calf fairly bad which is probably related to Saturday's race.  Hopefully I'll only be on the shelf for a few days.
That sucks based on yesterday's run I thought you were feeling pretty good, running over 10 @ 7:18.  A few days off sounds like the right answer.

 
I am the opposite, the fitter I am the more difficult it is for me to get to my max HR.  I can only approach my max HR if the conditions are brutal, Misery Index in the 150s, at the end of a 5K.  In good conditions I can be puking at the end of a race and never get with 10 bpm of my max.
This.  That's why I tested last week after 11 miles with the SI around 150. Haven't gotten near it in training otherwise, in intervals or tempo runs. 

 
Took my son and two of his buddies to the pool yesterday and decided to try out my iWatch swimming laps.  I'm still woefully out of shape and always been slow so I had little expectations other than figure out how well the watch would work.  

I read a couple of things saying the Health app was pretty basic so I installed Swim.com app and pushed it to the watch.  Swam about 700 yards and decided that was enough but the app worked pretty well - or at least it kept accurate distance, time swimming v resting (yes, I have to rest even going 700 yards).  

Anybody else using an app to track swims?  I'll try to do a search in the thread if I can get the search function to work.  
I've only used Garmin devices to track swimming, so I am not familiar with any apps.  However, the data I like to review from my Garmin includes:  each 25 meter or yard length time and stokes, my time per interval and to see the rest time between intervals.  The calorie burn data is nice to have to, to be able to relate it to biking or running (and way back helped plan in race nutrition for longer events).  Hope this helps.

 
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I thought so too but yesterday I seemed to have strained my calf fairly bad which is probably related to Saturday's race.  Hopefully I'll only be on the shelf for a few days.
Hope you heal fast.  Ankle is killing me, but I've been walking on it over distance.  Thinking I should actually not do that for a little while.  Hmmmm...

 
Do you think literally putting that many miles on your body will have a negative effect on you as you age?
Running May be Good For Your Knees

Sure runners get hurt.  But I think the consensus is pretty clear that the benefits outweigh any potential negative consequences.

Now ultrarunners, that's a different story.  There's no world where running 100 miles at a time is good for you.  Thank god I don't know any of those guys.....   :whistle: :bag:

 
Running May be Good For Your Knees

Sure runners get hurt.  But I think the consensus is pretty clear that the benefits outweigh any potential negative consequences.

Now ultrarunners, that's a different story.  There's no world where running 100 miles at a time is good for you.  Thank god I don't know any of those guys.....   :whistle: :bag:
Hey GB, I was wondering how bad it might be on me with 2 weak ankles from rolling them a ton playing bb and at 47 to start jogging a bit or if I am better served to be resigned to walking or biking.

 
Hey GB, I was wondering how bad it might be on me with 2 weak ankles from rolling them a ton playing bb and at 47 to start jogging a bit or if I am better served to be resigned to walking or biking.
If you stay on roads/bike paths, weak ankles shouldn't be too much of an issue.  If you want to start running, look at something like the couch to 5K program which mixes running and walking, and see if it's something you're in to.  If not, then walk and bike, both good for you as well.

And for weak ankles, do a bunch of one-legged exercises.  Just fold up a towel (to give you a squishy surface) and stand on it one-legged - it will strengthen all of the connective and stabilizing tissues.

And be careful walking out of bars when you've been overserved during a FBG Chi-town cornhole - those falls will get you every time ;)  

 
Do you think literally putting that many miles on your body will have a negative effect on you as you age?
There are other reasons, but one of the reasons I prioritize strength training as much as I do is to stay healthy - now and later. Joints just aren't built to absorb this level of pounding and I want to run for as long as I can.

 
It's kinda funny because I just had a conversation about the health benefits of running. My contention was that I don't really care. I mean if there's a benefit to running I'll definitely take it but that's not the reason I run. I run because I enjoy it. I race because it motivates me. I lift weights and eat right because I'm not ready to sport a dad bod. 

 
pbm107 said:
Congrats to threesome in Chicago.

@Brony impressive time especially while dealing with the calf.  Looking forward to seeing what you could do if you were injury free for an extended period of time.
Thx PBM.  

I, too, would like to see what I could do if I was injury free(!).  Not sure that's going to happen, but thankful that I'm able to run regularly with minimal complications.  Very skeptical that I'll ever be doing 5 to 7 miles consistently. 

 

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