Ran a 10k - Official Thread (22 Viewers)

[Juxtatarot]

For me to run sub 3 this past weekend the stars would have had to align. Everything would have needed to go right. So that makes me just think that I need more of a cushion going into the next one. I remember @Juxtatarot and @pbm107 both having pretty decent cushions on those race predictors. If I recall correctly Juxt had already run a 1:21 half and PBM had just run 36 minute in the 10K. I need more miles and a full cycle and I'll have more margin for error next time.

For the sake of accuracy, 1:22:36  for me.  But I think you're right about the cushioning. Not only physically, it helps mentally.

 

[pbm107]

I've often wondered if I got to where you're at, if I'd still have the fire to keep pushing it. 

Your pretty much there, I am not even where I was.  The goals keep changing and you never get there.

 

[pbm107]

pbm - is your race this weekend? Do you have a bib # yet?

Race is this Sunday, Philadelphia Marathon.  Bib # 669. 

 

[Ned]

Another X69 bib..... It's a sign from the Gods.

 

[Hang 10]

Another X69 bib..... It's a sign from the Gods.

 I was just thinking that. 

 

[JShare87]

Congrats on the W! Man, you seem to have a lot of overall victories in your early running career. Nice job.

As for the bolded, I think most of us get crazy nervous before races. I definitely do. And I have also seen crazy high HR data before when I'm warming up. At the end of the day, I don't think that factors too much into the race as it's good to have a warmed up heart before the race. You don't want to spike it right at the start by going from super low, right to racing. Also, the thing that calms me when I'm anxious and feeling like HR is high is that I've been here before and performed. I've have good prerace mornings and bad and the difference between the performance after is usually negligible. 

Thanks. The races around here never really have that many people in them. I contribute that to the only reason I have actually won a few races. Thanks for the response on the anxiety. I hear what you’re saying about the difference in performance. But, based on some of my training, I think I am capable of running a much faster pace than what I run in races.

For instance, I ran a tempo run a few weeks ago and my 10K time was 42:12. My average HR during that run was pretty low (161). During that run, I wasn’t pressing and the pace was pretty easy to maintain. Fast forward to the race and I felt like I was dying the entire time, avg HR (178)! I think it all goes back to what everyone in here has said to me, I need to build a better base. I am so inconsistent it isn’t funny. There are days when I can run close to sub 7 minute miles and my heart rate is under 150. I just think on a good day, I am capable of running much better than what I put out on race days. Maybe I need to start out a bit slower?

 

[Hang 10]

Thanks. The races around here never really have that many people in them. I contribute that to the only reason I have actually won a few races. Thanks for the response on the anxiety. I hear what you’re saying about the difference in performance. But, based on some of my training, I think I am capable of running a much faster pace than what I run in races.

For instance, I ran a tempo run a few weeks ago and my 10K time was 42:12. My average HR during that run was pretty low (161). During that run, I wasn’t pressing and the pace was pretty easy to maintain. Fast forward to the race and I felt like I was dying the entire time, avg HR (178)! I think it all goes back to what everyone in here has said to me, I need to build a better base. I am so inconsistent it isn’t funny. There are days when I can run close to sub 7 minute miles and my heart rate is under 150. I just think on a good day, I am capable of running much better than what I put out on race days. Maybe I need to start out a bit slower?

I think the HR data is useful but it's not always the best indication of effort or how great a run was...especially in a race. It's super common for your HR to be 5-10 beats higher during a race for the obvious reasons. The excitement. The nervousness. That's why I just go by effort and pace when racing. 

But isn't the more obvious reason you didn't run as well as you wanted is that you're dealing with an injury? The key to performance is making sure you've got 2 good wheels. Sure you can power through sometimes but it's not sustainable and you'll never reach your full potential that way. Just my 

 

[Hang 10]

Also @JShare87 looking at your strava stats, I'm not sure you're really underperformed in that race at all. 

I know you ran a faster 5K but your best estimated effort at 5K according to strava is 19:51(6:23 pace). Your 10K was 41 and change (6:38 pace). Difference of 15 seconds a mile. That is dead nuts on what a race predictor would say you should run. 

 

[JShare87]

Also @JShare87 looking at your strava stats, I'm not sure you're really underperformed in that race at all. 

I know you ran a faster 5K but your best estimated effort at 5K according to strava is 19:51(6:23 pace). Your 10K was 41 and change (6:38 pace). Difference of 15 seconds a mile. That is dead nuts on what a race predictor would say you should run. 

The injury sucks but I would hate to use it as an excuse. As far as the times, 18:52 is my PR for a 5K, guess I haven’t updated it on Strava. According to the race calculators I’m using, 6:19 should’ve been my pace for the 10K. I know that sounds far-fetched but I think I am capable of that. But, I am also the guy that thought he could run a sub 3:05 in his first marathon. I know it all takes time and I have a lot to learn, being more paitient is probably the biggest.

 

[Hang 10]

The injury sucks but I would hate to use it as an excuse. As far as the times, 18:52 is my PR for a 5K, guess I haven’t updated it on Strava. According to the race calculators I’m using, 6:19 should’ve been my pace for the 10K. I know that sounds far-fetched but I think I am capable of that. But, I am also the guy that thought he could run a sub 3:05 in his first marathon. I know it all takes time and I have a lot to learn, being more paitient is probably the biggest.

You didn't use injury as an excuse but doesn't mean it's not the reason. 

Also, not every course is measured properly. My 5K PR is 18:28. The fastest 5K I've run was 17:50...well unfortunately that course wasn't a full 3 miles. Early this year I ran a 18:10 5K. That course was exactly 3 miles on my watch. I know GPS isn't an exact science either but usually when a course is short on your watch, it's short. Not saying that 18:52 wasn't legit but I wouldn't put all my stock in that one race time.

You've run quite a few 5K's maybe take the average of your last 3 and see what kind of 10K you should run. Take the average pace and add 15-16 seconds per mile. 

 

[MAC_32]

I know it all takes time and I have a lot to learn, being more paitient is probably the biggest.

Echo.

You're probably years out from knowing your true potential.

And given where you are now that's a good thing.

 

[-OZ-]

Man, reading @Hang 10's report and all the chatter, and then with @pbm107 getting ready to run one, really gets the juices flowing to want to run one again.  Especially with the cool weather right now.

You guys are just on an incredible level of fitness and speed. I'd be happy to break 4 hours. 

pbm - is your race this weekend? Do you have a bib # yet?

Do it!

 

[-OZ-]

Along the lines of "things your wife would prefer you just watched porn"... I bought another pair of shoes today. Local guy was selling his very lightly used pair of Altras, torin 2.5. right size for me, about half priced. Between my new Smurf shoes (blue new balance) and these, I should be good for the winter. 

And I want to buy a peloton. Or a hard wheel for my trainer. I really don't like getting flats in the trainer, seems it shouldn't happen but it has a few times. Should I just keep an eye on Craigslist? A new bike at $2,000 seems expensive.

 

[gianmarco]

Thanks. The races around here never really have that many people in them. I contribute that to the only reason I have actually won a few races. Thanks for the response on the anxiety. I hear what you’re saying about the difference in performance. But, based on some of my training, I think I am capable of running a much faster pace than what I run in races.

For instance, I ran a tempo run a few weeks ago and my 10K time was 42:12. My average HR during that run was pretty low (161). During that run, I wasn’t pressing and the pace was pretty easy to maintain. Fast forward to the race and I felt like I was dying the entire time, avg HR (178)! I think it all goes back to what everyone in here has said to me, I need to build a better base. I am so inconsistent it isn’t funny. There are days when I can run close to sub 7 minute miles and my heart rate is under 150. I just think on a good day, I am capable of running much better than what I put out on race days. Maybe I need to start out a bit slower?

I'm not even in the same universe as all of you unicorns, but I'm finding this is definitely a thing for me and perhaps it might be something to consider?

Today, I wanted to go out for an easy run as I haven't run since Friday and 3 of my last 4 runs have either been long or with an increased pace.  That said, I still wanted to take advantage of the start to try and nail down an 8:30 pace and see how it feels.  I got through the 1st mile at ~8:30 and actually felt pretty good and I finally feel like that's going to be a good starting point.

However, after slowing it down over the rest of the run, I never fully recovered, IMO.  First, it took almost half a mile to get to a completely comfortable conversational pace with relaxed breathing.  And, normally when I hit mile 3-4, things start to open up and that never happened throughout the rest of my run compared to when I start a little slower and run at the same paces I ran today.  I'm sure there's a physiological explanation for all this, but there is a definite pattern I've noticed that I perform much better mid to late run when I start the first mile or 2 at a slower pace.  So much so that, despite this 15K coming up being a longer race for me, I'm likely going to warm up with at least a mile and possibly 2 before the start.

I don't want to presume to translate where I am with where you are, but perhaps try running a little slower on some of your tempo runs to start and see how it feels and how you finish?

ETA -- Last week, per suggestions from @MAC_32 and @Hang 10, I've been experimenting with faster speeds in the 4-6 mile range.  Did 5.4 miles last week at a constant 8:29 pace that was slightly uncomfortable but something I felt I could keep doing for another 4 miles for a full 15K.  I'm starting to get an idea of how a longer run at an uncomfortable but sustainable pace should feel like.  I think 8:15 pace for me is doable but I'm going to err on the slower side for this race as I don't want to blow up on my first longer distance race.  I still think I'm going to beat my wife, though 

Also, I passed along the suggestions to her of increasing her weekly mileage even more.  Considering her personality and the fact she's been running for years and years and I've got a full 3 months under my belt, I thought the chances of her listening were slim to none.  Not only has she listened and done more runs at a slower pace, but she is bumping up her miles per my suggestion via you guys to see how it works.  So, thank you guys and you all are awesome.  Seriously.

 

[JShare87]

I'm not even in the same universe as all of you unicorns, but I'm finding this is definitely a thing for me and perhaps it might be something to consider?

Today, I wanted to go out for an easy run as I haven't run since Friday and 3 of my last 4 runs have either been long or with an increased pace.  That said, I still wanted to take advantage of the start to try and nail down an 8:30 pace and see how it feels.  I got through the 1st mile and actually felt pretty good and I finally feel good with that starting point.

However, after slowing it down over the rest of the run, I never fully recovered, IMO.  First, it took almost half a mile to get to a completely comfortable conversational pace with relaxed breathing.  And, normally when I hit mile 3-4, things start to open up and that never happened throughout the rest of my run compared to when I start a little slower and run at the same paces I ran today.  I'm sure there's a physiological explanation for all this, but there is a definite pattern I've noticed that I perform much better mid to late run when I start the first mile or 2 at a slower pace.  So much so that, despite this 15K coming up being a longer race for me, I'm likely going to warm up with at least a mile and possibly 2 before the start.

I don't want to presume to translate where I am and with where you are, but perhaps try running a little slower on some of your tempo runs to start and see how it feels and how you finish?

Will do. Trust me, I know very little about running and am open and willing to all advice. 

 

[JShare87]

You didn't use injury as an excuse but doesn't mean it's not the reason. 

Also, not every course is measured properly. My 5K PR is 18:28. The fastest 5K I've run was 17:50...well unfortunately that course wasn't a full 3 miles. Early this year I ran a 18:10 5K. That course was exactly 3 miles on my watch. I know GPS isn't an exact science either but usually when a course is short on your watch, it's short. Not saying that 18:52 wasn't legit but I wouldn't put all my stock in that one race time.

You've run quite a few 5K's maybe take the average of your last 3 and see what kind of 10K you should run. Take the average pace and add 15-16 seconds per mile. 

That makes sense.

 

[ChiefD]

And I want to buy a peloton. Or a hard wheel for my trainer. I really don't like getting flats in the trainer, seems it shouldn't happen but it has a few times. Should I just keep an eye on Craigslist? A new bike at $2,000 seems expensive.

I started looking at these too. I just don't know I if I can justify the dollars. May look for a used Treadmill on Craigslist instead. Would love the Peloton thingy though. Looks fun.

 

[gianmarco]

Will do. Trust me, I know very little about running and am open and willing to all advice. 

You'd do well to listen to me as I know what I'm talking about.  And run more miles.

But seriously, for me, this is an example of what I'm talking about:

This was almost an "easy" run for me and I felt better at the end and that I could go longer when compared to this run that was started faster and stayed a constant pace

Now, I know there's a total :10 difference in pace, but I also know that the effort level between those 2 was far more than that difference and I'm quite sure if I kept things going for another 2-3 miles, I would have equaled or surpassed that pace during the 1st run.  Same route.  I know different runs on different days are different, but it's definitely a trend for me. 

 

[gianmarco]

Alright, not an injury question per se, but something's come up with the cold weather.

As I've already mentioned, tore my left ACL a little over a year ago.  I've had no issues with it since the repair and running has actually helped strengthen the leg.  I've got full range of motion and it's pretty much a "normal" knee except for some changes in sensation for the most part.

Over the last 3 weeks, though, since the temps have dropped and with my distances increasing, I'm now getting this awful pain in that left knee as soon as I stop running.  I have zero pain as I run.  Once I stop, within about a minute or two, an intense pain comes on and it hurts to try and bend it at all.  I can push it and bend it and it relieves it a little but overall it gets really, really stiff.  One time, I started jogging again and then ran a full on sprint and the pain resolved.  Other times, I've gotten into the shower and warmed it up and it's completely gone.  I've tried walking after the runs as a cool down but that doesn't help and I end up limping until I'm able to get somewhere warm or just wait like 5-10 minutes until it gets better and I can flex my knee and stretch it out. 

So, it only lasts for a few minutes but it's really, really bad and it's only happening when it's cold.  During runs, nothing and once it goes away, nothing.  Anyone gone through this?  Any ideas on how to make it better?  I've tried a couple different types of cool downs (jogging, walking, stretching) but none of it seems to help it from happening.  The sooner I can warm it up and stretch it, the sooner it goes away, but that's not always possible.  I did find that running on it again with a sprint was really effective but that scares me as I'm worried I might hurt myself doing that after stopping from a longer run with the cold.

 

[bushdocda]

I'm sure you can relate having just run Chicago. You have a lot of time to think about #### during a marathon.

Yeah, pretty much my thought process on the shoe lace. I've already stopped once, I'm not going to stop again unless I absolutely have to. 

For me to run sub 3 this past weekend the stars would have had to align. Everything would have needed to go right. So that makes me just think that I need more of a cushion going into the next one. I remember @Juxtatarot and @pbm107 both having pretty decent cushions on those race predictors. If I recall correctly Juxt had already run a 1:21 half and PBM had just run 36 minute in the 10K. I need more miles and a full cycle and I'll have more margin for error next time.

Speaking of next time I think I may have picked out a spring marathon. The coastal Delaware marathon is the week after Boston this year. Makes a lot of sense for me as it's in driving distance and it would basically put me a year out from Boston 2019.

Can't wait to see you boys in Boston! Will be epic. 

Coastal Delaware one is on some of the trails where I ran a lot this summer. Should be fast track, can be pretty windy on the parts on Cape Henlopen and perhaps other sections but you’re used to that with Va beach breezes. 

Not running a similar race I was planning on doing there in 2 weeks, forgot my kids b-ball scheds would become a factor. 

 

[ChiefD]

Alright, not an injury question per se, but something's come up with the cold weather.

As I've already mentioned, tore my left ACL a little over a year ago.  I've had no issues with it since the repair and running has actually helped strengthen the leg.  I've got full range of motion and it's pretty much a "normal" knee except for some changes in sensation for the most part.

Over the last 3 weeks, though, since the temps have dropped and with my distances increasing, I'm now getting this awful pain in that left knee as soon as I stop running.  I have zero pain as I run.  Once I stop, within about a minute or two, an intense pain comes on and it hurts to try and bend it at all.  I can push it and bend it and it relieves it a little but overall it gets really, really stiff.  One time, I started jogging again and then ran a full on sprint and the pain resolved.  Other times, I've gotten into the shower and warmed it up and it's completely gone.  I've tried walking after the runs as a cool down but that doesn't help and I end up limping until I'm able to get somewhere warm or just wait like 5-10 minutes until it gets better and I can flex my knee and stretch it out. 

So, it only lasts for a few minutes but it's really, really bad and it's only happening when it's cold.  During runs, nothing and once it goes away, nothing.  Anyone gone through this?  Any ideas on how to make it better?  I've tried a couple different types of cool downs (jogging, walking, stretching) but none of it seems to help it from happening.  The sooner I can warm it up and stretch it, the sooner it goes away, but that's not always possible.  I did find that running on it again with a sprint was really effective but that scares me as I'm worried I might hurt myself doing that after stopping from a longer run with the cold.

Get a foam roller and stretch your IT band. You can google it to see what I'm talking about. I have this happen all the time with my knees. 

It's gonna hurt like hell when you stretch.

edit to add: This has helped me in the past and is in no way a "cure" if you are really have a knee issue. I just know this is a byproduct for me when I run a lot.

 

[Brony]

Spent the weekend in Vegas.  Drinking. Not running. Surrounded by runners who were doing the Sunday night marathon with the finish line 5 steps from my hotel.  

Great getaway but oof, recovery is tough yesterday and today. 

Had 2nd visit with my PT last night.  "your calves are really tight.  Let me see if I can dig in there".    Still feeling that today on both sides.    He did a run analysis on my gait. He had me download Hudi Technique app on my phone so that I could show others my running videos in slow mo.  (Neat, huh?)  Anyway, he feels like my stride is too extended and slow and we're going to see if the Pose method has any utility for me (short strides, faster cadence).  We did some exercises last night to prep for that and I'll start doing short intervals with the new stride this week. Goal is to go from my current 150-ish steps per minute up to 170 to 180.  I'm not totally optimistic this will fix things, but I haven't tried gait change before, so it's worth a try. 

I'm trying to catch up on the thread - really enjoyed Hang10's race update.  That's a hell of a run.  Crazy to do all that prep and then get distracted by a shoelace - I can relate to that for sure.  

 

[tri-man 47]

(short strides, faster cadence). 

Or as we would say here ...you need to Juxt your stride.

 

[gianmarco]

Get a foam roller and stretch your IT band. You can google it to see what I'm talking about. I have this happen all the time with my knees. 

It's gonna hurt like hell when you stretch.

edit to add: This has helped me in the past and is in no way a "cure" if you are really have a knee issue. I just know this is a byproduct for me when I run a lot.

Just called my PT from my recovery and she said the same thing. Recommended a knee sleeve to keep it warm and to try rolling the IT band. 

I'll report back....

ETA -- Ok, I'm not the only one.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Spent the weekend in Vegas.  Drinking. Not running. Surrounded by runners who were doing the Sunday night marathon with the finish line 5 steps from my hotel.  

Great getaway but oof, recovery is tough yesterday and today. 

Had 2nd visit with my PT last night.  "your calves are really tight.  Let me see if I can dig in there".    Still feeling that today on both sides.    He did a run analysis on my gait. He had me download Hudi Technique app on my phone so that I could show others my running videos in slow mo.  (Neat, huh?)  Anyway, he feels like my stride is too extended and slow and we're going to see if the Pose method has any utility for me (short strides, faster cadence).  We did some exercises last night to prep for that and I'll start doing short intervals with the new stride this week. Goal is to go from my current 150-ish steps per minute up to 170 to 180.  I'm not totally optimistic this will fix things, but I haven't tried gait change before, so it's worth a try. 

I'm trying to catch up on the thread - really enjoyed Hang10's race update.  That's a hell of a run.  Crazy to do all that prep and then get distracted by a shoelace - I can relate to that for sure.  

I'm a big fan of the faster cadence.  I'm routinely north of 190 for my runs.

 

[SFBayDuck]

 Richmond Marathon

The coach wanted me to do my pre run drills and then a mile warmup. I decided against the mile warmup. It was just way too cold. So I did my drills for 10 min and then jogged around the start line area to avoid standing still in the cold for too long. 2 min to the gun I hopped the barricade into the corral and then ditched my throw away sweat suit.

Love it, great report.  
I'm sure you've touched on it before, but what drills do you do before a race?  And do you do them before every run, only quality runs?  I've had my routine of walk 1/2 mile then do a series of dynamic stretches, but curious what others who are actually good at running do.

I had one more gel left with 25mg of caffeine and I weighed the options not taking it because I thought it might make me puke or just taking it and hoping for the best. #### it. I take it and it does give me a bit of lift. Or maybe it was just getting close to the end.

Chances are pretty good neither the caffeine nor the carbs were "usable" from a physiological perspective until after the race considering when you took this one.  But the performance effect can in fact be very real, even if it's more of a psychological one.  A pretty well-known study has shown that simply rinsing your mouth with a carb solution, without drinking it at all, can improve performance.  I've done this before when my stomach has been bad and I don't think I can keep anything down but I'm feeling low energy - take a sip, swish it around, and spit it out.  (Literally) rinse, repeat.  A gel hitting your mouth would have the same effect.  In any case, glad it worked and paid off for you in pushing to a strong finish!

Deep dive podcast that touches on the topic, for those interested.

 

[SFBayDuck]

 You have a lot of time to think about #### during a marathon.

3 hours?  Try 30

 

[SFBayDuck]

Had 2nd visit with my PT last night.  "your calves are really tight.  Let me see if I can dig in there".    Still feeling that today on both sides.    He did a run analysis on my gait. He had me download Hudi Technique app on my phone so that I could show others my running videos in slow mo.  (Neat, huh?)  Anyway, he feels like my stride is too extended and slow and we're going to see if the Pose method has any utility for me (short strides, faster cadence).  We did some exercises last night to prep for that and I'll start doing short intervals with the new stride this week. Goal is to go from my current 150-ish steps per minute up to 170 to 180.  I'm not totally optimistic this will fix things, but I haven't tried gait change before, so it's worth a try. 

I feel ya.  I had Graston on my calves again yesterday.  I've had Graston off and on for 3 years now, so I know to take a day off afterward because my calves will be so sore.

Sounds like we're going through something similar - my chiro/pt has me doing exercises to strengthen my glutes/hips (monster walks) and my posterior chain (reverse bridge), as that is the likely cause of the lower leg/calf issues I've dealt with for years.  He suggested I do some of the exercises before runs to try and activate those muscles, or even just put my foot against a tree and push out a few times.  Essentially, I'm trying to re-train my body to run like it's supposed to, and not how I've adapted it to to compensate for my weaknesses. I also plan on working on cadence, being a 150-155 guy typically, to see if I can get that up a bit.

The good news is my calf strain seems to be improved, enough that I've been "running" a little again with no pain.  It's very little, and it's so depressing how out of shape I've gotten, but it's progress.  Even more depressing is he told me to keep things flat for now :(   I'm going to hike some hills though 1-2 times a week to get my fix.

 

[Nigel]

I started looking at these too. I just don't know I if I can justify the dollars. May look for a used Treadmill on Craigslist instead. Would love the Peloton thingy though. Looks fun.

Please do this fellas.

 

[-OZ-]

Please do this fellas.

Seeing your Strava feed is like watching the food network or swimsuit models. Very tempting but unrealistic right now.

 

[ChiefD]

Seeing your Strava feed is like watching the food network or swimsuit models. Very tempting but unrealistic right now.

No kidding. I like his workouts 4-5 times a day.

 

[gianmarco]

No kidding. I like his workouts 4-5 times a day.

I didn't even know he was working out.

 

[Hang 10]

Love it, great report.  
I'm sure you've touched on it before, but what drills do you do before a race?  And do you do them before every run, only quality runs?  I've had my routine of walk 1/2 mile then do a series of dynamic stretches, but curious what others who are actually good at running do.

Chances are pretty good neither the caffeine nor the carbs were "usable" from a physiological perspective until after the race considering when you took this one.  But the performance effect can in fact be very real, even if it's more of a psychological one.  A pretty well-known study has shown that simply rinsing your mouth with a carb solution, without drinking it at all, can improve performance.  I've done this before when my stomach has been bad and I don't think I can keep anything down but I'm feeling low energy - take a sip, swish it around, and spit it out.  (Literally) rinse, repeat.  A gel hitting your mouth would have the same effect.  In any case, glad it worked and paid off for you in pushing to a strong finish!

Deep dive podcast that touches on the topic, for those interested.

My drills are as follows: 

Leg swings side - side 15 each
Leg swings front - back 15 each
toe touch 1 - leg 15 each
A skip
Butt kicks
Karaoke side - side
High kicks 15 each
Arm rows
Toe touches

And yeah, I've done them before every run for the past 3 months. 

Interesting info about the nutrition. I have heard the thing about the gatorade. That's why I normally grab one toward the end of the race. 

 

[Hang 10]

3 hours?  Try 30

No thanks I'll take your word for it lol. 

 

[ChiefD]

I didn't even know he was working out.

 

[ChiefD]

3 hours?  Try 30

Here comes Jimmy Big Balls swinging through the thread....

 

[SFBayDuck]

Here comes Jimmy Big Slow Balls swinging through the thread....

Fixed. I'm a different species than all these fast bastards in here.  

 

[SFBayDuck]

@SayWhat?, did you get that ticket in the WS100 lottery?  Looks like 4,953 applicants for around 250 spots and a likelihood of getting in with one ticket at <2%.

I look forward to running again at age 50 (I'm 45 now).

 

[Juxtatarot]

If anyone’s curious about me, I haven’t been running much recently. I’ve had a heel injury for, like, the last few years. It’s not so bad that I can’t run through it and I rarely feel it after the first mile or two. Anyway, it was getting a bit worse this late summer/fall so I’m trying to give it the rest it needs. It’s the worst when I first wake up in the morning. Recently I can actually make it downstairs after I wake up without hugging the bannister. I hope that’s a good sign. I had a hamstring injury too but that’s fine now.

I would really like to run Boston again after a disappointing personal performance in that marathon in 2013 coupled with the whole bombing thing. I’d like to run it in the same year that several of you guys do. Targeting 2019, I’d probably fly out by myself so it would be nice to be entertained for a few meals and during other times by some combination of @Steel Curtain @Hang 10 @pbm107 @MAC_32 @gruecd @JShare87 @tri-man 47. My apologies if I just forgot someone who’s considering 2019. Assuming the majority of you tagged guys are serious, I’ll sign up for this BQ event  in April to qualify. I’d start some pre-training in December and “official” training in January. Cool?

 

[SFBayDuck]

If anyone’s curious about me, I haven’t been running much recently. I’ve had a heel injury for, like, the last few years. It’s not so bad that I can’t run through it and I rarely feel it after the first mile or two. Anyway, it was getting a bit worse this late summer/fall so I’m trying to give it the rest it needs. It’s the worst when I first wake up in the morning. Recently I can actually make it downstairs after I wake up without hugging the bannister. I hope that’s a good sign. I had a hamstring injury too but that’s fine now.

I would really like to run Boston again after a disappointing personal performance in that marathon in 2013 coupled with the whole bombing thing. I’d like to run it in the same year that several of you guys do. Targeting 2019, I’d probably fly out by myself so it would be nice to be entertained for a few meals and during other times by some combination of @Steel Curtain @Hang 10 @pbm107 @MAC_32 @gruecd @JShare87 @tri-man 47. My apologies if I just forgot someone who’s considering 2019. Assuming the majority of you tagged guys are serious, I’ll sign up for this BQ event  in April to qualify. I’d start some pre-training in December and “official” training in January. Cool?

If that kind of crew is going to be there, I'll show up just to be in the presence of y'all!

 

[Hang 10]

If anyone’s curious about me, I haven’t been running much recently. I’ve had a heel injury for, like, the last few years. It’s not so bad that I can’t run through it and I rarely feel it after the first mile or two. Anyway, it was getting a bit worse this late summer/fall so I’m trying to give it the rest it needs. It’s the worst when I first wake up in the morning. Recently I can actually make it downstairs after I wake up without hugging the bannister. I hope that’s a good sign. I had a hamstring injury too but that’s fine now.

I would really like to run Boston again after a disappointing personal performance in that marathon in 2013 coupled with the whole bombing thing. I’d like to run it in the same year that several of you guys do. Targeting 2019, I’d probably fly out by myself so it would be nice to be entertained for a few meals and during other times by some combination of @Steel Curtain @Hang 10 @pbm107 @MAC_32 @gruecd @JShare87 @tri-man 47. My apologies if I just forgot someone who’s considering 2019. Assuming the majority of you tagged guys are serious, I’ll sign up for this BQ event  in April to qualify. I’d start some pre-training in December and “official” training in January. Cool?

That sucks that you're dealing with injury. I've had problems with arch of my left foot this past training cycle but I iced, stretched my calves and used insoles when I wasn't running. I also bought toe spacers and those hoka recovery flip flops. Anyway, some combination of those things worked and it got better eventually. Hopefully you can figure it out soon.

As for Boston, yeah, I'm definitely going so it'd be great if you did as well. Would be awesome to maybe even run the race together as our pace might be similar. Also, I like the timing of your spring race because that's the same weekend as the marathon I'm thinking about! 

 

[JShare87]

If anyone’s curious about me, I haven’t been running much recently. I’ve had a heel injury for, like, the last few years. It’s not so bad that I can’t run through it and I rarely feel it after the first mile or two. Anyway, it was getting a bit worse this late summer/fall so I’m trying to give it the rest it needs. It’s the worst when I first wake up in the morning. Recently I can actually make it downstairs after I wake up without hugging the bannister. I hope that’s a good sign. I had a hamstring injury too but that’s fine now.

I would really like to run Boston again after a disappointing personal performance in that marathon in 2013 coupled with the whole bombing thing. I’d like to run it in the same year that several of you guys do. Targeting 2019, I’d probably fly out by myself so it would be nice to be entertained for a few meals and during other times by some combination of @Steel Curtain @Hang 10 @pbm107 @MAC_32 @gruecd @JShare87 @tri-man 47. My apologies if I just forgot someone who’s considering 2019. Assuming the majority of you tagged guys are serious, I’ll sign up for this BQ event  in April to qualify. I’d start some pre-training in December and “official” training in January. Cool?

That sounds great. Guess I have to get back out there and try this thing again since you called me out.

 

[Hang 10]

We need @Ned to get healthy. I know he'd be lock for a BQ with 2 good wheels and the extra 5 min in his new age group.

 

[Ned]

If anyone’s curious about me, I haven’t been running much recently. I’ve had a heel injury for, like, the last few years. It’s not so bad that I can’t run through it and I rarely feel it after the first mile or two. Anyway, it was getting a bit worse this late summer/fall so I’m trying to give it the rest it needs. It’s the worst when I first wake up in the morning. Recently I can actually make it downstairs after I wake up without hugging the bannister. I hope that’s a good sign. I had a hamstring injury too but that’s fine now.

That's been my problem.  Does your heel look like this?

Google Insertional Tendonitis

 

[Ned]

We need @Ned to get healthy. I know he'd be lock for a BQ with 2 good wheels and the extra 5 min in his new age group.

Appreciate it, but I highly doubt that's happening, GB.   

 

[Hang 10]

Appreciate it, but I highly doubt that's happening, GB.   

Hey, you gotta be due for some good luck here soon. Hang in there. 

 

[Osaurus]

Been fighting off a cold Mrs. O brought home so no running lately (yes I know running can help get rid of it), but hoping by the weekend I’ll be back out there.  Last Sunday was the first weekend day that I didn’t do #### for the entire day.  That is a rarity.  Gobble gobble turkey giblet or whatever 5/8k race is next Thursday.  I actually got me one of them fancy feast mode shirts for it.  Going for 8k PR as it is an easy street course.  

 

[bushdocda]

If anyone’s curious about me, I haven’t been running much recently. I’ve had a heel injury for, like, the last few years. It’s not so bad that I can’t run through it and I rarely feel it after the first mile or two. Anyway, it was getting a bit worse this late summer/fall so I’m trying to give it the rest it needs. It’s the worst when I first wake up in the morning. Recently I can actually make it downstairs after I wake up without hugging the bannister. I hope that’s a good sign. I had a hamstring injury too but that’s fine now.

I would really like to run Boston again after a disappointing personal performance in that marathon in 2013 coupled with the whole bombing thing. I’d like to run it in the same year that several of you guys do. Targeting 2019, I’d probably fly out by myself so it would be nice to be entertained for a few meals and during other times by some combination of @Steel Curtain @Hang 10 @pbm107 @MAC_32 @gruecd @JShare87 @tri-man 47. My apologies if I just forgot someone who’s considering 2019. Assuming the majority of you tagged guys are serious, I’ll sign up for this BQ event  in April to qualify. I’d start some pre-training in December and “official” training in January. Cool?

I get 5 mins next year.  I’ll be working to take care of the other 52 minutes by the time I’m 44. 

Now where are my compression socks. 

Edit - good luck gettin healthy Juxt!

 

[Hang 10]

I get 5 mins next year.  I’ll be working to take care of the other 52 minutes by the time I’m 44. 

Now where are my compression socks. 

Edit - good luck gettin healthy Juxt!

So you'll be 45 in April 2019? So that mean you need 3:20ish. It's possible!

 

[bushdocda]

So you'll be 45 in April 2019? So that mean you need 3:20ish. It's possible!

No I turn 40 April 2018 so I’ll be in 3:15 window till 44. Unless I’m reading the chart entirely wrong.

Getting older and faster - why not!

+ 10 mins at 45. That’s nice of them and maybe a sweeter spot given my training age.