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Anybody else Turkey Trotting tomorrow morning?

I'm doing a 5K with the wife. Guessing it'll probably take us 40ish minutes, but I'm proud of her for doing it. She did 3+ with me last night, so I know she's capable. She's not a runner AT ALL (and rarely works out), so it's impressive that she can basically just get off the couch and run the distance.
Nope.

But my 9yo is up near Nashville for a 4 mile race he's done 3 times now with his Aunt. 

Oh, and he made his school's track team. :)

 
The Harpeth Hills Flying Monkey Marathon

http://www.harpethhillsmarathon.com

The Harpeth Hills Flying Monkey Marathon is meant to be an antidote. Featured in Marathon & Beyond and in Runners' World magazines, it is a marathon that is about running. Running hard. Running over big and memorable and painful rolling hills through dense woods. Running with other like-minded athletes. The Harpeth Hills Flying Monkey Marathon is about the joy and pain of running a unique, and uniquely challenging--some would say beastly--26.2 mile course in the beautiful and historic Percy Warner Park, nestled among the Middle Tennessee Harpeth Hills.

We will time and measure the distance, but the course will not be certified and it will not be a Boston qualifying event. If you get to the end and you (or your gadget) believe the route to be long, we won't charge you extra; if you believe it to be short, just keep running. There will be no bands, cheerleaders, wave starts or crowds. We promise no marathon Personal Records, but we guarantee every runner a PR - a Permanent Remembrance of a well-earned marathon finish. We promise to give you approximately 26.2 tough and memorable miles, with a total of over 3600 feet each of elevation gain and loss, or over 7200 feet of overall elevation change. 

When I decided the Pinhotti 100 wasn't in the cards this year, I wanted a new challenge.  To be honest, another road marathon, even a BQ, didn't have the appeal to me at this time.  I saw this on the Team RWB facebook page and figured I'd enter the lottery and see what happens.  Turns out I was lucky enough to get in (I have no idea how many people entered the lottery, might have been the same number who "won").  All the talk about it being tough and the various emails from the director saying things like "you can't train for this, don't bother with a taper..." add to the schtick, but all in all it's just people having fun and doing something other than going after a PR or ultra events.  We love Nashville and I had thought the wife and kids could stay with her parents that night to join me, but that didn't work out.  The reason it didn't work out is Mrs. Oz was conducting another bone marrow drive for Princess Dragonfruit, She made no attempt to make me feel guilty and was supportive, but I still felt guilty leaving that morning.  

The plan was to take it relatively easy the first 5 miles, then treat the next 15 as a tempo run but if the road got steep enough I'd powerhike, then cruise the downward slope.  For the final 10k just hang-on.  Last year's marathon I had taken out fast for the first 15 then slowed, I was going to pace this better.  As I had no true time target, it was easier mentally to just keep steady.  I did hope to maintain a low 8 mile pace.  

It was in the 40s, I had brought long sleeves, gloves, short sleeves, a couple hats, socks I could wear as sleeves and throw away... decided to just wear shorts, shirt, calf sleeves, socks and shoes.  Most people wore long sleeves, I'm glad I didn't.  I carried no beverage but brought along one Morocan your world Picky bar, but otherwise would take whatever they gave (they had Huma gels, Sword and water).  

  1 1.0 mi 8:17 8:17 /mi 7:36 /mi 110 ft 150 bpm

The race starts going across a field with quite a few roots.  Thankfully the roots are painted orange so spotting isn't an issue, but the pack started slow partly due to the roots. 

  2 1.0 mi 7:47 7:47 /mi 7:29 /mi -7 ft 158 bpm

  3 1.0 mi 7:39 7:39 /mi 7:29 /mi -65 ft 154 bpm

  4 1.0 mi 8:00 8:00 /mi 7:38 /mi 74 ft 158 bpm

  5 1.0 mi 8:14 8:14 /mi 7:35 /mi 66 ft 156 bpm

So far so good.  sticking to the plan, keeping HR in the 150s and generally cruising along. 

  6 1.0 mi 8:27 8:27 /mi 7:52 /mi 41 ft 159 bpm

  7 1.0 mi 7:01 7:01 /mi 7:42 /mi -320 ft 154 bpm  

Mile 7 was fun, big time decline, I did start to wonder how my quads would feel the next day. 

  8 1.0 mi 8:33 8:33 /mi 7:20 /mi 198 ft 160 bpm

Little bit of a climb here, no walking yet but it was a slow rise. 

  9 1.0 mi 7:32 7:32 /mi 7:45 /mi -83 ft 156 bpm

 10 1.0 mi 8:37 8:37 /mi 7:41 /mi 115 ft 157 bpm

 11 1.0 mi 7:51 7:51 /mi 7:53 /mi -127 ft 156 bpm

 12 1.0 mi 8:04 8:04 /mi 7:53 /mi 4 ft 154 bpm

 13 1.0 mi 9:00 9:00 /mi 8:09 /mi 140 ft 156 bpm

Walked a little on mile 13, just for 30 seconds or so. 

From roughly mile 10-20, I was near one guy who would consistently pass me on the uphill, dude could climb!  But then I'd cruise right by him on the downhill.  Steady Eddie seemed to just keep going at the same speed no matter the terrain, while I was sticking more to consistent effort.  

 14 1.0 mi 7:47 7:47 /mi 7:53 /mi -109 ft 157 bpm

 15 1.0 mi 8:49 8:49 /mi 8:00 /mi 77 ft 158 bpm

 16 1.0 mi 7:51 7:51 /mi 7:56 /mi -104 ft 157 bpm

 17 1.0 mi 8:35 8:35 /mi 8:09 /mi 83 ft 159 bpm

 18 1.0 mi 8:01 8:01 /mi 8:21 /mi -193 ft 152 bpm

 19 1.0 mi 10:19 10:19 /mi 8:24 /mi 279 ft 160 bpm

Steady Eddie passed me on this climb and I never saw him again :( This was by far the toughest mile in the course, I walked 2 minutes of it and I think that was the right move.  I was feeling a bit beat down by this point, but confident that I'd finish near my goal time.  

 20 1.0 mi 9:19 9:19 /mi 8:30 /mi 44 ft 159 bpm

 21 1.0 mi 8:02 8:02 /mi 8:32 /mi -196 ft 155 bpm

 22 1.0 mi 8:52 8:52 /mi 8:26 /mi 67 ft 157 bpm

Got passed here by one dude who seems to have just started running, he had a bib so that couldn't have been the case (the course wasn't closed and we did have a lot of people visiting the park that morning), then another dude, and a chick who would finish 2nd out of the women, right ahead of me.  Talked with the 2nd guy for a few minutes and then just tried to keep him in view. He had ran this race 3 times before and trains on it, told me the rest was gentle. (thankfully!) 

 23 1.0 mi 7:59 7:59 /mi 8:12 /mi -108 ft 157 bpm

 24 1.0 mi 8:56 8:56 /mi 8:09 /mi 88 ft 160 bpm

Walked a tiny bit here uphill, figured I could use the energy reprieve for the next 2 miles.

 25 1.0 mi 8:14 8:14 /mi 8:26 /mi -79 ft 158 bpm

 26 0.7 mi 6:16 8:18 /mi 8:05 /mi 3 ft 164 bpm

Just hanging on to the finish.  We finished the same way we started, the roots made me a bit nervous so I didn't sprint to the end, trying to avoid tripping.  I don't know if the course was slightly short or if my watch was slightly off.  But the director said there was 3600' of elevation gain, my watch came in 1,000 short. Other strava feeds show closer to 2700.  I'm not complaining but it makes me wonder if my watch is always off on elevation.  

I think I trained as well as could be expected for this event.  Around here you have to seek out hills and do repeats, which I did weekly, I think I need to take more hills at a faster pace if I do another hilly event.  The long runs in the spring and summer before I started the new job helped a ton.  50 mile weeks can get me to finish and I'm pleased.  The two weeks off in early September had some negative impact I think, mostly because I had to ramp back up and taper in 10 weeks.  The 16 week cycle seems to be standard for a reason.  

I don't know if I'll do it again but I'm happy to have done it once.  
 
Wow Oz, incredibly impressive pacing with that type of elevation change.  Sounds like a really fun, and unconventional, marathon.  

 
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No race for me today, but first run this morning since the 100 two and a half weeks ago.  Got up at 5:30 for a five miler in a couple inches of snow.  Felt decent, though knees were a bit creaky.  More troubling is that I've been experiencing numbness in my toes.  Specifically my right foot (though I think a bit in my left as well), and focused especially in my big toe.  I'm either pre diabetic or I've done something nerve related, possibly during the 100, that's causing this.  It seems to be worst when I first wake up in the morning.  Anyone ever experience anything like this? A bit concerning at this stage as I keep expecting to wake up each day with it feeling better.

 
It’s done.  1,700+ runners today and the 5/8k were together for the first 2 miles making it interesting to say the least.  I’ll post more later after many drinks and food.  Happy Thanksgiving all!  :excited:

 
No race for me today, but first run this morning since the 100 two and a half weeks ago.  Got up at 5:30 for a five miler in a couple inches of snow.  Felt decent, though knees were a bit creaky.  More troubling is that I've been experiencing numbness in my toes.  Specifically my right foot (though I think a bit in my left as well), and focused especially in my big toe.  I'm either pre diabetic or I've done something nerve related, possibly during the 100, that's causing this.  It seems to be worst when I first wake up in the morning.  Anyone ever experience anything like this? A bit concerning at this stage as I keep expecting to wake up each day with it feeling better.
Sorry but best advice I can give is to see a doctor.

It's going to be almost 60 here today.

 
Happy Thanksgiving 10K FBGs!  Low key day for me with the extended family.  

I'm very superstitious when it comes to giving any updates, so please know that my calf will probably blow up into writhing pain after this update... 

I've gone to my newest PT three times now.  1st update was usual overview of situation and clinical examination including manipulation of ankle and fibula. Also did crash course in Pose method drills.  That led to daily therapy on hip strengthening and rolling all leg muscles.  2nd visit was gait review and more ankle/fibula and work on Pose method drills.  I've continued the hip and daily foam roller treatment.  I started to incorporate the new running method into my runs.  New running form has me running with shorter strides and an increased cadence (I was 150 steps/min.  He wants me 160 to 165 for now). Additionally, my knees come more forward with the idea that my right leg would follow the path of my left leg when coming off the ground (when walking in place).  It essentially is now like a semi-march.  It probably still looks like I'm running normal, but when I alternate from new to old form, it's very noticeable to me.  While I'm still sticking with 20 miles/week, I did start to notice that my usual calf pain started to decrease in intensity.  As I told the PT, I think we're on the right path. 

3rd visit on Monday was more of the same.  The manipulation of the right leg was not focused just on ankle but a few manipulations of muscles while I rocked against the wall with my right leg bent.  He got pretty high on the leg and I felt bad for not leaving a tip.  He also did a full exam of my leg stability in all planes - I had to balance on one leg and then do front lunge, rear lunge, side lunge and criss-cross lunge.  For each lunge, I did full landing, tip toe and balance.  Repeat each side.  It helped reveal that my right side is weak/not using the full part of right foot for balance.  My big toe is not really engaged in the support/landing/push-off of the right leg.  I have sensed this in running to date - my right foot has always felt more clubbish/ "along for the ride" than the left.  The only course corrections on my daily regimen are to focus more on forcing pressure on my right MTP when doing the pony drill.  I'm also doing balance drills on my right side to try and force that big toe area to engage. 

So has this affected my running and calf injury? 

A cautious 'Yes'.  As of today, I was full time running with new form for 4 miles.  I was fully conscious of my running form the whole time with occasional mind lapses but I don't think I ever went back to old style.  I was targeting a 'faster' cadence but wasn't really sure where I was.  I had a new cadence app that I used instead of Strava but it gave me random audio updates with cadences of 110 or 125 steps/min.  It wasn't helpful.  After 4 miles, I put the metronome app going in my earbuds and set it for 160 bpm.  Turns out, I was probably much faster than 160 for much of my run.  I also was focusing on getting my right foot more involved in the push off.   The new form feels less efficient at the moment, but if it can get me to go more than 20 miles/ week then I'm all for it. 

Post run today, I did the usual stretches and my new foam roller regimen.  My right calf was a complete zero after the run.  No different than pre-run.  Pretty ####ing magical considering the past 3 years.  There are still occasional hiccups from that area, but minor and way different than what I usually experience. 

So it seems to be heading in a good direction and different than other times I've had some optimistic treatment.  I'm still gonna stay at the 20 miles/week for a little while I see how this therapy goes.  I've had some ups in the past that led to downs in this journey which is why my tone is so measured/pessimistic.  For the moment, though, feeling pretty good! 

 
5K Turkey Trot in Palm City Race Report

Going into this race, I haven’t run very much. The running I have done has been very slow, so I wouldn’t aggravate my hamstring/back (whatever the hell it is). However, that doesn’t really work. The back of my leg begins to flare up immediately when I start jogging. As the runs get longer or faster, the pain shoots to my calf, then Achilles, then heel. I haven’t done any speed work so I didn’t really have high expectations. I also haven’t really been eating too well or lifting much. Guess I’m just going through a phase because of my leg.

Onto the actual race. I woke up early and hit the restroom 3 times before I headed out the door. We arrive at the race and I do about a mile warmup with some 200s at race pace mixed in. My leg is on fire at this point. I line up in the front and see about 4 or 5 people that look like they can run sub 18. 

The race starts and I take off. I settle into about 12th-15th. After the 1st mile (6:08 pace), I move up to 7th. The top 4 are in a pack about 300 yards ahead of me and 2 other guys. I stick with the 2 guys for the 2nd mile (6:10 pace). The last mile, the top 4 are out of sight. The 2 guys in front of me start to create a bit of distance from me (about 50 yards). My HR was near maxed out the entire 2nd and 3rd mile. I glance over my shoulder right before I hit mile marker 3 and realize nobody is close to me. I could’ve made a run at number 5 and 6 but knew that would probably result in me puking. I decide to somewhat shut it down for the last tenth. 

Official chip time was 19:09. 7th overall, 2nd in age group. My niece ran the race as well and finished 3rd in her age group (10 and under) which was really cool. The craziest thing about this race was the guy that came in 1st. I by no means judge any runner and I realize everyone is different. The guy that came in 1st was a machine of some sort. Dude was about 6’3 240-260. I remember seeing him when the race started. He was way up front with the young high school kids and I kept thinking, “ok, when I am going to pass this jacked guy.” I thought for sure he would be keeled over after the first mile. Boy was I wrong. Guy ran a 17:36 and my wife mentioned that he was laughing and talking to the crowd as he was crossing the line. She said he didn’t even look out of breath. I have been dumbfounded the entire day as to how this guy ran that fast. Has anyone ever seen a really really big dude run sub 18s? Mostly every runner I see capable of running that fast is under 200. 

As for me, I’m not sure where to go from here. I originally said I was going to shut it down after this race and try to let my leg heal. After the race, I keep thinking I don’t want to take a break because the weather is starting to get nice and it’s PR season! The pain is manageable and it doesn’t feel as if my hamstring is going to tear. The pain is much much deeper. It kind of feels like it’s in the bone, if that makes sense. I’m sure many of you will advise me to stop but I’m starting to think it may just be a nagging injury that I may just have to push through. I went to the Dr and they originally thought it was my sciatica and then said a proximal hamstring injury. They then started to think it was my sciatica again after a few more visits. The PT wasn’t helping, so I stopped going. We’ll see what the future brings. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

 
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The guy that came in 1st was a machine of some sort. Dude was about 6’3 240-260. I remember seeing him when the race started. He was way up front with the young high school kids and I kept thinking, “ok, when I am going to pass this jacked guy.” I thought for sure he would be keeled over after the first mile. Boy was I wrong. Guy ran a 17:36 and my wife mentioned that he was laughing and talking to the crowd as he was crossing the line. She said he didn’t even look out of breath. I have been dumbfounded the entire day as to how this guy ran that fast. Has anyone ever seen a really really big dude run sub 18s? Mostly every runner I see capable of running that fast is under 200. 
Yeah, I decided last minute to run this one.  Kept thinking you were going to catch me, but then I'd flex and my pace would quicken.  

Seriously though, hell of a time you threw down while battling through an injury.  Nicely done.

 
finally cracked 45 minutes in a 5 mile race today :thumbup:

that was after tailing off starting around 3 miles when my energy started to flag. pretty happy with it.

 
Happy Thanksgiving 10K FBGs!  Low key day for me with the extended family.  

I'm very superstitious when it comes to giving any updates, so please know that my calf will probably blow up into writhing pain after this update... 

I've gone to my newest PT three times now.  1st update was usual overview of situation and clinical examination including manipulation of ankle and fibula. Also did crash course in Pose method drills.  That led to daily therapy on hip strengthening and rolling all leg muscles.  2nd visit was gait review and more ankle/fibula and work on Pose method drills.  I've continued the hip and daily foam roller treatment.  I started to incorporate the new running method into my runs.  New running form has me running with shorter strides and an increased cadence (I was 150 steps/min.  He wants me 160 to 165 for now). Additionally, my knees come more forward with the idea that my right leg would follow the path of my left leg when coming off the ground (when walking in place).  It essentially is now like a semi-march.  It probably still looks like I'm running normal, but when I alternate from new to old form, it's very noticeable to me.  While I'm still sticking with 20 miles/week, I did start to notice that my usual calf pain started to decrease in intensity.  As I told the PT, I think we're on the right path. 

3rd visit on Monday was more of the same.  The manipulation of the right leg was not focused just on ankle but a few manipulations of muscles while I rocked against the wall with my right leg bent.  He got pretty high on the leg and I felt bad for not leaving a tip.  He also did a full exam of my leg stability in all planes - I had to balance on one leg and then do front lunge, rear lunge, side lunge and criss-cross lunge.  For each lunge, I did full landing, tip toe and balance.  Repeat each side.  It helped reveal that my right side is weak/not using the full part of right foot for balance.  My big toe is not really engaged in the support/landing/push-off of the right leg.  I have sensed this in running to date - my right foot has always felt more clubbish/ "along for the ride" than the left.  The only course corrections on my daily regimen are to focus more on forcing pressure on my right MTP when doing the pony drill.  I'm also doing balance drills on my right side to try and force that big toe area to engage. 

So has this affected my running and calf injury? 

A cautious 'Yes'.  As of today, I was full time running with new form for 4 miles.  I was fully conscious of my running form the whole time with occasional mind lapses but I don't think I ever went back to old style.  I was targeting a 'faster' cadence but wasn't really sure where I was.  I had a new cadence app that I used instead of Strava but it gave me random audio updates with cadences of 110 or 125 steps/min.  It wasn't helpful.  After 4 miles, I put the metronome app going in my earbuds and set it for 160 bpm.  Turns out, I was probably much faster than 160 for much of my run.  I also was focusing on getting my right foot more involved in the push off.   The new form feels less efficient at the moment, but if it can get me to go more than 20 miles/ week then I'm all for it. 

Post run today, I did the usual stretches and my new foam roller regimen.  My right calf was a complete zero after the run.  No different than pre-run.  Pretty ####ing magical considering the past 3 years.  There are still occasional hiccups from that area, but minor and way different than what I usually experience. 

So it seems to be heading in a good direction and different than other times I've had some optimistic treatment.  I'm still gonna stay at the 20 miles/week for a little while I see how this therapy goes.  I've had some ups in the past that led to downs in this journey which is why my tone is so measured/pessimistic.  For the moment, though, feeling pretty good! 
Glad to hear it!  Keep making that forward progress. 

I "ran" today for the first time in 9 days after my most recent in a series of calf flare ups.  Went to the track near my parent's house in Portland in case it flared again so I wouldn't have to walk back to the car.  Managed to get around the track a few times, almost 3 miles of running with a good warm up and cool down.  No sharp pain, so I'll consider it a success, although I feel like I'm straight off the couch again aerobically, and I basically am.  I continue to do my monster walk hip/glute exercises, working on my feet with a hard rubber ball, and digging into all the sore spots with a variety of torture implements.  I'm trying to focus on a bit of a forward lean and higher cadence, but I'm really considering getting some professional coaching on stride.  I figure since I'm essentially starting over, I might as well try to rebuild things correctly.

 
Great reports guys. Nice work!  :headbang:

And @Brony, I really hope the calf finally works itself out. Sending positive vibes big time to you.

Me? Sick again. In bed all day yesterday, so that sucked. Hoping to get out tomorrow for a run. 

 
5K Turkey Trot in Palm City Race Report

Going into this race, I haven’t run very much. The running I have done has been very slow, so I wouldn’t aggravate my hamstring/back (whatever the hell it is). However, that doesn’t really work. The back of my leg begins to flare up immediately when I start jogging. As the runs get longer or faster, the pain shoots to my calf, then Achilles, then heel. I haven’t done any speed work so I didn’t really have high expectations. I also haven’t really been eating too well or lifting much. Guess I’m just going through a phase because of my leg.

Onto the actual race. I woke up early and hit the restroom 3 times before I headed out the door. We arrive at the race and I do about a mile warmup with some 200s at race pace mixed in. My leg is on fire at this point. I line up in the front and see about 4 or 5 people that look like they can run sub 18. 

The race starts and I take off. I settle into about 12th-15th. After the 1st mile (6:08 pace), I move up to 7th. The top 4 are in a pack about 300 yards ahead of me and 2 other guys. I stick with the 2 guys for the 2nd mile (6:10 pace). The last mile, the top 4 are out of sight. The 2 guys in front of me start to create a bit of distance from me (about 50 yards). My HR was near maxed out the entire 2nd and 3rd mile. I glance over my shoulder right before I hit mile marker 3 and realize nobody is close to me. I could’ve made a run at number 5 and 6 but knew that would probably result in me puking. I decide to somewhat shut it down for the last tenth. 

Official chip time was 19:09. 7th overall, 2nd in age group. My niece ran the race as well and finished 3rd in her age group (10 and under) which was really cool. The craziest thing about this race was the guy that came in 1st. I by no means judge any runner and I realize everyone is different. The guy that came in 1st was a machine of some sort. Dude was about 6’3 240-260. I remember seeing him when the race started. He was way up front with the young high school kids and I kept thinking, “ok, when I am going to pass this jacked guy.” I thought for sure he would be keeled over after the first mile. Boy was I wrong. Guy ran a 17:36 and my wife mentioned that he was laughing and talking to the crowd as he was crossing the line. She said he didn’t even look out of breath. I have been dumbfounded the entire day as to how this guy ran that fast. Has anyone ever seen a really really big dude run sub 18s? Mostly every runner I see capable of running that fast is under 200. 

As for me, I’m not sure where to go from here. I originally said I was going to shut it down after this race and try to let my leg heal. After the race, I keep thinking I don’t want to take a break because the weather is starting to get nice and it’s PR season! The pain is manageable and it doesn’t feel as if my hamstring is going to tear. The pain is much much deeper. It kind of feels like it’s in the bone, if that makes sense. I’m sure many of you will advise me to stop but I’m starting to think it may just be a nagging injury that I may just have to push through. I went to the Dr and they originally thought it was my sciatica and then said a proximal hamstring injury. They then started to think it was my sciatica again after a few more visits. The PT wasn’t helping, so I stopped going. We’ll see what the future brings. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
:lol:

I'm only laughing because during my first marathon I kept pushing to beat a dude who looked a lot like this. I did, but he earned my respect. Actually talked to him afterwards, was a marine. Go figure.

 
SFBayDuck said:
Glad to hear it!  Keep making that forward progress. 

I "ran" today for the first time in 9 days after my most recent in a series of calf flare ups.  Went to the track near my parent's house in Portland in case it flared again so I wouldn't have to walk back to the car.  Managed to get around the track a few times, almost 3 miles of running with a good warm up and cool down.  No sharp pain, so I'll consider it a success, although I feel like I'm straight off the couch again aerobically, and I basically am.  I continue to do my monster walk hip/glute exercises, working on my feet with a hard rubber ball, and digging into all the sore spots with a variety of torture implements.  I'm trying to focus on a bit of a forward lean and higher cadence, but I'm really considering getting some professional coaching on stride.  I figure since I'm essentially starting over, I might as well try to rebuild things correctly.
Thanks Duck and glad to hear of your recovery too. Didn't realize how bad you were.  I hear ya on the torture devices.  The foam roller no longer brings me to tears but I can still find sore spots on every muscle group. 

 
No racing while in Grand Rapids for a wedding, but two great, back-to-back 10 mile runs. There’s a rarely used road that winds through the trees along a river south of town.  On Friday, staying in the suburbs, ran to it and caught the southern end for a couple miles up and back. 10 @ 8:18/mi. On Saturday, staying downtown, ran to it and caught the northern end down and back with a bit of overlap.  10 @ 8:10/mi.  Real comfortable pacing both days in crisp, cool air.

 
Thanksgiving Race Report --

Decided to sign up for a 4.3 mile "Wobble Gobble" turkey trot in New Hampshire.  I didn't do anything special for this race and didn't taper at all. 

Morning was a bit sporadic as I had to get my youngest son from my mom's house to my sister's house (about 0.9 miles away).  I finally got him fed and out the door and we jogged slowly to my sisters.  I dropped him and then my dad gave me a car ride to the start (about a mile away).  Stood in line, got my bib, and it was then only 10 minutes to race time.  I went out and ran 0.7 miles to warm up and open the legs up a bit.  It was 28 degrees so I had contemplated wearing shorts, but decided against it as I had been battling a tight hamstring and didn't want to possibly injure it in the cold.  

I didn't know the course at all but heard it was a few rolling hills, with the biggest hill in mile 1.  I had decided I would shoot for sub 7 minute mile.  I could go faster, but didn't want to damage that hamstring any more.

Mile 1 -- 6:52/158

I started near the front (3rd or 4th row of people so I dnd't have to deal with much traffic in this race of 400+ people.  A quick early downhill had me cruising at 6:25 pace until we hit the big hill at 0.40 miles.  I slowed a bit on that hill but didn't collapse.... I passed several people.  After the big hill, it was mostly downhill for the rest of the mile.

Mile 2 -- 7:00/168

I found a small group to run with and we just cruised along.  Nothing significant here, but we had a bunch of people who I think were all shooting for sub 7 minute miles.

Mile 3 -- 6:48/171

I pushed the pace here a bit.  I wanted to negative split and so I started to empty the tank.  I picked off several people.  I started following a young lady who I wanted to pick off next.  She was pushing though and I struggled to gain on her.

Mile 4 (which was only 0.78) -- 7:10/173

This mile was hard.  It was slight uphill with a strong 15 mph wind directly in our face.  I was pushing but not going all out. I could have sub 7 it, but the risk/reward wasn't worth it.  I passed the girl with about 1/4 mile left.  I could have sprinted by another guy near the finish but it wasn't worth it.  As I was cruising in, I hear a big roar and with 10 yards to go, the girl goes sprinting by me!  :lmao:

Finish -- 27:16 -- 6:57/mile

Overall -- 32/423

40-49 AG -- 4/39 (3rd place was 16 seconds in front of me....I could have done that.  :kicksrock: )

Also, the girl....was apparently a 13 year old girl so it was good to see her gusto.  She won her AG and was 4th female.

One thing.....don't advertise your race as 4.3 miles and then have it be 3.78 miles (according to my watch).  Its run by the HS cross country team, so let's try to be accurate here, please.  If the race was 4.3, I would have still been sub 7 which was my goal, but it annoys me the race distance was so far off.

I went and did a 5 miles cool down to get over 10 miles for the day.

 
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Thanksgiving Race Report --

Decided to sign up for a 4.3 mile "Wobble Gobble" turkey trot in New Hampshire.  I didn't do anything special for this race and didn't taper at all. 

Morning was a bit sporadic as I had to get my youngest son from my mom's house to my sister's house (about 0.9 miles away).  I finally got him fed and out the door and we jogged slowly to my sisters.  I dropped him and then my dad gave me a car ride to the start (about a mile away).  Stood in line, got my bib, and it was then only 10 minutes to race time.  I went out and ran 0.7 miles to warm up and open the legs up a bit.  It was 28 degrees so I had contemplated wearing shorts, but decided against it as I had been battling a tight hamstring and didn't want to possibly injure it in the cold.  

I didn't know the course at all but heard it was a few rolling hills, with the biggest hill in mile 1.  I had decided I would shoot for sub 7 minute mile.  I could go faster, but didn't want to damage that hamstring any more.

Mile 1 -- 6:52/158

I started near the front (3rd or 4th row of people so I dnd't have to deal with much traffic in this race of 400+ people.  A quick early downhill had me cruising at 6:25 pace until we hit the big hill at 0.40 miles.  I slowed a bit on that hill but didn't collapse.... I passed several people.  After the big hill, it was mostly downhill for the rest of the mile.

Mile 2 -- 7:00/168

I found a small group to run with and we just cruised along.  Nothing significant here, but we had a bunch of people who I think were all shooting for sub 7 minute miles.

Mile 3 -- 6:48/171

I pushed the pace here a bit.  I wanted to negative split and so I started to empty the tank.  I picked off several people.  I started following a young lady who I wanted to pick off next.  She was pushing though and I struggled to gain on her.

Mile 4 (which was only 0.78) -- 7:10/173

This mile was hard.  It was slight uphill with a strong 15 mph wind directly in our face.  I was pushing but not going all out. I could have sub 7 it, but the risk/reward wasn't worth it.  I passed the girl with about 1/4 mile left.  I could have sprinted by another guy near the finish but it wasn't worth it.  As I was cruising in, I hear a big roar and with 10 yards to go, the girl goes sprinting by me!  :lmao:

Finish -- 27:16 -- 6:57/mile

Overall -- 32/423

40-49 AG -- 4/39 (3rd place was 16 seconds in front of me....I could have done that.  :kicksrock: )

Also, the girl....was apparently a 13 year old girl so it was good to see her gusto.  She won her AG and was 4th female.

One thing.....don't advertise your race as 4.3 miles and then have it be 3.78 miles (according to my watch).  Its run by the HS cross country team, so let's try to be accurate here, please.  If the race was 4.3, I would have still been sub 7 which was my goal, but it annoys me the race distance was so far off.

I went and did a 5 miles cool down to get over 10 miles for the day.
So Friday came, and I wanted to do a long easy run.  Not knowing how the legs would feel after the race, I was shooting for 16-20.  I got out there and cruised along in low 9's and high 8's.  Found I had some time and decided to do a literal marathon training run.  The last few miles were tiring but nothing like when I race a marathon.  There wasn't real pain and I could have kept going if it wasn't for the boredom.

Ended up doing 26.24 miles in 3:55. (8:59 pace). 

Legs were tired yesterday and struggled through a 12 mile recovery run at 9:21 pace. 

 
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Hang 10 said:
That's a helluva week for you @SteelCurtain!

A race, a marathon and a 12 mile recovery run?!  :excited: :lmao:  
Thanks @Hang 10!  Finished off the week with a 16 miler today.  

My highest mileage week ever at 81 miles.   Starting Boston training in a couple weeks.

In the meantime, just trying to maximize time on feet while the weather isn’t miserable.  

Looking at the strava leaderboard for FFA, i’m Feeling a bit like Steve.  Well.....a Steve who runs about 3 minutes per mile slower.   :)  

 
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Thanks @Hang 10!  Finished off the week with a 16 miler today.  

My highest mileage week ever at 81 miles.   Starting Boston training in a couple weeks.

In the meantime, just trying to maximize time on feet while the weather isn’t miserable.  

Looking at the strava leaderboard for FFA, i’m Feeling a bit like Steve.  Well.....a Steve who runs about 3 minutes per mile slower.   :)  
Now I know you’re on drugs. What the hell? Making us all look bad.

 
Knocked out 3.7 today. Didn't poop on myself.

IN YOUR FACE @SteelCurtain!!!!!!!!!!
Walked Friday evening, ran 5 Saturday and felt like crap. Did pushups, core, lunges and stretched this morning. Now I remember why a massage a few days after a marathon is a good idea. I feel like I didn't flush the #### out of my system.  

 
Walked Friday evening, ran 5 Saturday and felt like crap. Did pushups, core, lunges and stretched this morning. Now I remember why a massage a few days after a marathon is a good idea. I feel like I didn't flush the #### out of my system.  
Or running a 15 mile cool down, apparently.

 
:lmao: on the thread title. 

Honestly, these slow miles are pretty easy.  I'm tired and a bit sore, but my marathon training with speed workouts, etc, is far more exhausting.

All that being said, I will take today off and possibly tomorrow will be bike or stairs.  No need to get injured before Boston training starts! 

 
Quick update on the Peloton for those interested. 

In 2 months I did 47 rides, logged 621 miles (haven't caught @Nigel on any of these),

Dropped 12 pounds, 220 to 208. 

Went on my first run this morning, was hoping to do a quick 2 miles (I know, chump change around here these days). 

Ended up at 2.75 10:08 pace 150 HR. 

Compared to my last run 2 months ago - 2.1 miles, 10:51 pace 149 HR.

I like seeing this headed in the right direction.  Would love to get back to 185-190 lbs.  Hope to get a good spread of rides and runs going forward.  Guess I need to figure out a plan and stick to it, that's always been my demise - not having a plan. 

 
Quick update on the Peloton for those interested. 

In 2 months I did 47 rides, logged 621 miles (haven't caught @Nigel on any of these),

Dropped 12 pounds, 220 to 208. 

Went on my first run this morning, was hoping to do a quick 2 miles (I know, chump change around here these days). 

Ended up at 2.75 10:08 pace 150 HR. 

Compared to my last run 2 months ago - 2.1 miles, 10:51 pace 149 HR.

I like seeing this headed in the right direction.  Would love to get back to 185-190 lbs.  Hope to get a good spread of rides and runs going forward.  Guess I need to figure out a plan and stick to it, that's always been my demise - not having a plan. 
Great work.  :thumbup:

 
:lmao: on the thread title.

Honestly, these slow miles are pretty easy.  I'm tired and a bit sore, but my marathon training with speed workouts, etc, is far more exhausting.

All that being said, I will take today off and possibly tomorrow will be bike or stairs.  No need to get injured before Boston training starts! 
Hey now!  Feels like a dig at us slow guys!  :penalty:

Well the last few days have included the onset of hand/arm numbness, which is on top of a month of foot/toe numbness.  That can't be good.  Guess I may have to get in to see the doc.    :kicksrock: (since I can't feel it anyways)

 
Hey now!  Feels like a dig at us slow guys!  :penalty:

Well the last few days have included the onset of hand/arm numbness, which is on top of a month of foot/toe numbness.  That can't be good.  Guess I may have to get in to see the doc.    :kicksrock: (since I can't feel it anyways)
I was going to respond to your last post on this, as I almost always have some foot numbness after a 100K/100M.  It usually goes away within a week or so, and it's never spread beyond my feet.  I've always just attributed it to a combination of some mild nerve/tissue damage from being on feet for 17-30+ hours, and nerve issues higher up just from all the inflammation (kind of like how sciatica can be cause by glutes/hip muscles pinching the nerve, leading to tingling down the leg).

All that said, it's been a few weeks for you and now it's spreading, so probably a good call to go see a doc.  

 
Yeah, I guess I could see that.

SC is bored so he decided to shake things up and really test himself. But I'm still kinda leaning to him getting bored and smoking the biggest crack rock evah. 

 
@SteelCurtain, stop screwing around and sign up for a 50M-100K or something. ;)
I just want to be his marathon coach.  "Coach, what do I need to do for Boston?"  "You know that run you just did?  Do it faster."

But, more seriously, @SteelCurtain, a key will be prepping for the early downhills and late uphills of Boston.  You've got the distance down pat, obviously.  It'll be the race-specific training that benefits ya.

 
:lmao: on the thread title. 

Honestly, these slow miles are pretty easy.  I'm tired and a bit sore, but my marathon training with speed workouts, etc, is far more exhausting.

All that being said, I will take today off and possibly tomorrow will be bike or stairs.  No need to get injured before Boston training starts! 
I don’t care how slow you’re running, there’s nothing easy about 26.2. 

 
Quick update on the Peloton for those interested. 

In 2 months I did 47 rides, logged 621 miles (haven't caught @Nigel on any of these),

Dropped 12 pounds, 220 to 208. 

Went on my first run this morning, was hoping to do a quick 2 miles (I know, chump change around here these days). 

Ended up at 2.75 10:08 pace 150 HR. 

Compared to my last run 2 months ago - 2.1 miles, 10:51 pace 149 HR.

I like seeing this headed in the right direction.  Would love to get back to 185-190 lbs.  Hope to get a good spread of rides and runs going forward.  Guess I need to figure out a plan and stick to it, that's always been my demise - not having a plan. 
Nice!  My wife and I are considering buying one of these when we move in May.  Right now we both do spin classes, but this would save us a lot of money.  

 
I just want to be his marathon coach.  "Coach, what do I need to do for Boston?"  "You know that run you just did?  Do it faster."

But, more seriously, @SteelCurtain, a key will be prepping for the early downhills and late uphills of Boston.  You've got the distance down pat, obviously.  It'll be the race-specific training that benefits ya.
My best advice for Boston?  Strength training for your legs.  

 

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