The Iguana
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I'm on cloud 9 over here. Now having lunch with my daughter, who is in town from college. You guys rock. Thanks for the help and encouragement in this journey... wonder what I can do in a month at the next one.
So stoked for you and @ChiefD! Congrats fellas.I'm on cloud 9 over here. Now having lunch with my daughter, who is in town from college. You guys rock. Thanks for the help and encouragement in this journey... wonder what I can do in a month at the next one.
La-di-da I'm just going to just fight a difficult chronic illness so that I can get back to running and train during one of the worst winters we've had in a long time with snow and ice and log weekly and monthly mileage highs despite being older and then traveling out of town in ####ty weather conditions and hit my A goal and PR my marathon even though I was positive I'd never even be able to run one again.In Summary
So I mentioned earlier I had a lot of time to think about things during the back half of this race. And everything over the last year came flooding into my brain. The diagnosis of my stomach stuff, that bout of sickness in the spring, how I have felt going on a year now. And it's all related and at the same time my new reality.
My body is different now. I can't get to where I could before in terms of fitness. My body is exhausted daily - every run I do is extremely frustrating because I rarely feel good. And when I get sick, I can't recover in time to get back on the saddle and build on my base. This sinus infection I have now will probably require at least another bout of medicine.
And it sucks. It's over for me as a distance runner. My heart is heavy and I'm bordering on tears writing this right now. There will not be another marathon. There will more than likely never be another half marathon. I can't keep doing this knowing I'm getting slower and slower and there doesn't seem to be much I can do about it.
Pretty good day for you (aside from the Vaseline in crevices that is)I'm on cloud 9 over here. Now having lunch with my daughter, who is in town from college. You guys rock. Thanks for the help and encouragement in this journey... wonder what I can do in a month at the next one.
I think their 6.55 mile timing strip was off. It was right before the 7 mile marker, IMO. I didn't negative split at all and hit my time.@Juxtatarot through the halfway point in 1:26:47. He's killing it.
@gruecd through the halfway point in 1:30:04. I could only dream of a time like this. For a HM! Let alone a full.
@ChiefD through the quarter point in 1:01:56. <4 still within reach and he's set up well for a negative split!
@The Iguana through the halfway point (HM) in 53:55. I think he's going for a 1:45 time -- saving energy for his negative split as well.
Wind was negligible most of the time. Rain was on and off. Got done and my wife told me it hadn't rained at all at home. I live about 20 miles +/- south of the race.Looks like they've been getting rained-on the whole time. If the race was just a few miles south they probably would have got some breaks from the wet. Incredible that they're all running like they are in that. Wind looks OK (if you can believe WU) and temps are perfect. Would be a fantastic racing day were it not for the rain.
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It's more about negative splitting the effort without blowing up. If that results in a positive split, then that was the optimium race for you. Looks like you accomplished that to perfection.I think their 6.55 mile timing strip was off. It was right before the 7 mile marker, IMO. I didn't negative split at all and hit my time.
Yeah, the half marathon course (first half of the marathon too) was basically gently downhill for the first 6 miles +/- and then gently uphill for the last half of it, more or less.It's more about negative splitting the effort without blowing up. If that results in a positive split, then that was the optimium race for you. Looks like you accomplished that to perfection.
Great report and way to handle the adversity (shirt change and glasses retrieve) without coming unhinged.
Congrats again! Great race report!Got a picture of @Juxtatarot coming toward the finish, I'll upload it later.
that's awesome man, killing itTart cherry juice is the ticket.Holy hell it all hurts today. Forgot about this part.
Gotta drive home - race report coming this evening.
Those wandering around the Barkley last night sure enjoyed it.Did you guys enjoy the overnight snow and ice in Indy?
Really glad to have bumped into you at the start. Also glad to have found you at the halfway point. I was starting to think I had missed you while bumbling about trying to compose myself after I finished. But then you come trucking along. I'm planning to give you encouragement and you just want my time report! Thanks for asking.@The Iguana - great report. You killed it today. Awesome result and a huge leap forward for you and your future running.
#BMF.
Honored to meet you this weekend.![]()
Awesome... Looked like a well run race split wise. Tough effort based on HR all race, hopefully not a suffer fest. Crazy considering you aren't even at peak fitness.Well it wasn’t a total disaster, sub 1:26 my 2nd best time. At the beer garden waiting on friends. Mistakes were made prerace, but i’ll get into that later.
Getting so fast. Looks like another well run race. Well done!!!Benefit to getting faster was #17 in the post race massage line. Got frog legged and chicken winged like a mf. Race went well, encouraged for 6 weeks till next half and pleased with today. Will get a brief report together later. Happy Sunday y’all.
Nice work. 2nd best time at your performance level is still a great race. Eager for the report.Well it wasn’t a total disaster, sub 1:26 my 2nd best time. At the beer garden waiting on friends. Mistakes were made prerace, but i’ll get into that later.
Nice!Well it wasn’t a total disaster, sub 1:26 my 2nd best time. At the beer garden waiting on friends. Mistakes were made prerace, but i’ll get into that later.
Based on Strava, today is a PR for you, no?Benefit to getting faster was #17 in the post race massage line. Got frog legged and chicken winged like a mf. Race went well, encouraged for 6 weeks till next half and pleased with today. Will get a brief report together later. Happy Sunday y’all.
@bushdocda going for 1:35 for his next one. He's building some serious speed.Based on Strava, today is a PR for you, no?
Based on you, @The Iguana, and me, we're starting to build up a little cadre of ~1:45 HMers. Well, I'm 1:47 but I'll roll with you guys if you let me.
Yup, 80 degrees yesterday, sleet and snow last night with temps down to 10 degrees at the high point of the course. Twenty-one runners made it to loop 2, but only six runners made it out on to loop 3. I think only 2-3 of them have a real chance to make it out on loop 4, but if the weather is bad today it might be zero. The only previous finishers in the race this year, Jared Campbell (ankle) and John Kelly (quit) are already out.Those wandering around the Barkley last night sure enjoyed it.
#bm100 twitter weekend may be my favorite twitter weekend of the year.Yup, 80 degrees yesterday, sleet and snow last night with temps down to 10 degrees at the high point of the course. Twenty-one runners made it to loop 2, but only six runners made it out on to loop 3. I think only 2-3 of them have a real chance to make it out on loop 4, but if the weather is bad today it might be zero. The only previous finishers in the race this year, Jared Campbell (ankle) and John Kelly (quit) are already out.
My favorite quotes from The Real Keith's Twitter coverage so far:
"Finally, the rain has stopped. Now it's sleeting."
"Little Hell wasn't little."
"Alan Holtz is still on loop 1, using the Roomba technique of navigation." - he ended up taking 26 hours to make it back to camp, and didn't even have all his book pages. And I don't think that's even a record for longest single loop.
"Tim Hardy, two-time human sacrifice, is back in camp, having been found on hwy 62."
"They are progressively less enthused about continuing - laz"
Jamil Coury, at camp between loops 2 and 3: "Jamil: I'll take a couple minutes this time. Crew: Didn't you take enough minutes out there?"
1:35 will take me longer good sir. Gunning for 1:39@bushdocda going for 1:35 for his next one. He's building some serious speed.
I'd like to join the 1:45 group. Hope to be there in October.
x in May. Sorry I didn’t google but who is the Real Keith?Yup, 80 degrees yesterday, sleet and snow last night with temps down to 10 degrees at the high point of the course. Twenty-one runners made it to loop 2, but only six runners made it out on to loop 3. I think only 2-3 of them have a real chance to make it out on loop 4, but if the weather is bad today it might be zero. The only previous finishers in the race this year, Jared Campbell (ankle) and John Kelly (quit) are already out.
My favorite quotes from The Real Keith's Twitter coverage so far:
"Finally, the rain has stopped. Now it's sleeting."
"Little Hell wasn't little."
"Alan Holtz is still on loop 1, using the Roomba technique of navigation." - he ended up taking 26 hours to make it back to camp, and didn't even have all his book pages. And I don't think that's even a record for longest single loop.
"Tim Hardy, two-time human sacrifice, is back in camp, having been found on hwy 62."
"They are progressively less enthused about continuing - laz"
Jamil Coury, at camp between loops 2 and 3: "Jamil: I'll take a couple minutes this time. Crew: Didn't you take enough minutes out there?"
Indeed. Last half was in marathon training 2 seasons ago so the PR was likely. Today was a test race of sorts that has me sore but should be on point for SOS runs this week, maybe slid out a day.Based on Strava, today is a PR for you, no?
Based on you, @The Iguana, and me, we're starting to build up a little cadre of ~1:45 HMers. Well, I'm 1:47 but I'll roll with you guys if you let me.
Unofficial media spokesperson for the event, he's been attending the event for yearsSorry I didn’t google but who is the Real Keith?
Things going well on the treatment front?Next weekend will be the third race I've ever bailed on. Second was a couple weeks ago. Skipping the local half marathon to see my wife and daughter. Totally worth it. (Even if I don't like skipping this race)
Pretty well. The big picture stuff is going great. Her body has been run over by a truck (other ailments) but is responding well.Things going well on the treatment front?
After today's snow run, and hopefully the last of the season, I'm really looking forward to this tomorrow. If the snow's melted anyway.First of all, after a full day of rain yesterday and then a temp drop, today is gorgeous. Full sun, slight wind, and about 40 degrees at run start.
I dont know how you guys do it. Since I didn’t get out until about 11:00 it turned into my first real warm, shirt-coated-in-salt kind of run of the season. Klimat said 60, and that’s probably about right for the beginning, but it was mid-70s by the end.MAC_32 said:After today's snow run, and hopefully the last of the season, I'm really looking forward to this tomorrow. If the snow's melted anyway.
I won't say never, but I can't imagine trying to train for a March/April marathon again. Maintenance mode is hard enough.I dont know how you guys do it. Since I didn’t get out until about 11:00 it turned into my first real warm, shirt-coated-in-salt kind of run of the season. Klimat said 60, and that’s probably about right for the beginning, but it was mid-70s by the end.
...and staircases.Out of curiosity, I just did the rough math.
1st half time ~ 51:04 +/-
2nd half time ~ 53:04 +/-
Official timing had me flopped the other way around and then some: 53:55 and 50:14
Based on the info from my Garmin, it was mostly a slight downhill or flat the first 1/2 and flat or slightly uphill the 2nd half so I feel good about the consistency of effort.
Also was looking at the results of those in my age group. 1st 1/2 time was 18th of 90 in my AG. 2nd half time I was 16th of 90 in my AG. Overall, I finished 17th of 90. And, I was "only" 13:18 from making the podium - I cut 2X that amount of time off of my first attempt!![]()
Besides just more miles and effort, I need to make myself run up and down more hills, IMO. Problems is how flat it is around me - immediate options are only overpasses, etc. There's a few places I know I can go, just takes effort to hunt them down. Need to make myself do so as the weather improves.
I thought it would be much harder than it actually is. Granted, we've had a good winter, but even -30C (-22F) was tolerable with enough layers, a good touque, and a neck gaiter.I dont know how you guys do it. Since I didn’t get out until about 11:00 it turned into my first real warm, shirt-coated-in-salt kind of run of the season. Klimat said 60, and that’s probably about right for the beginning, but it was mid-70s by the end.
This is based on the fact that the course really was pretty flat. There were 2 "hills" that were a bit steep, 1 going into a neighborhood at about mile 7 and one going up onto the Monon trail at about mile 12. But even both of those were fairly short lived and not that big a deal - not compared to what I remember running "back in the day" in southern Indiana. But even the slow lengthy climbs were in my head a little more than they should have been. But I did hold my own for the most part on them compared to others around me, IMO.Besides just more miles and effort, I need to make myself run up and down more hills, IMO. Problems is how flat it is around me - immediate options are only overpasses, etc. There's a few places I know I can go, just takes effort to hunt them down. Need to make myself do so as the weather improves.