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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (3 Viewers)

OK, so here are the legs. Most are strava but a couple are ones I did on Map My Run where I couldn't find them on strava. 

Juxt: Leg 1

Gianmarco: Leg 2

Tri-man: Leg 3

Jshare: Leg 4

Grue: Leg 5

ChiefD: Leg 6

Juxt: Leg 7

Gian: Leg 8

Tri-man: Leg 9

jshare: Leg 10

Grue: Leg 11

Chief 😧Leg 12

Juxt: Leg 13

Gian: Leg 14

Tri-man: Leg 15

Jshare: Leg 16

Grue: Leg 17

Chief 😧Leg 18
You need to fix Leg 11.  This is the new one (legs changed last year):  Leg 11

 
OK, so here are the legs. Most are strava but a couple are ones I did on Map My Run where I couldn't find them on strava. 

Juxt: Leg 1

Gianmarco: Leg 2

Tri-man: Leg 3

Jshare: Leg 4

Grue: Leg 5

ChiefD: Leg 6

Juxt: Leg 7

Gian: Leg 8

Tri-man: Leg 9

jshare: Leg 10

Grue: Leg 11

Chief 😧Leg 12

Juxt: Leg 13

Gian: Leg 14

Tri-man: Leg 15

Jshare: Leg 16

Grue: Leg 17

Chief 😧Leg 18
I'll post my thoughts on some of these from what I remember (drove 2 years ago and ran last year)

Leg 1 -- This starts on a High School Track and it's a short and quick first leg.  @Juxtatarot should be able to smoke this.  He's also going to only be running with 4 others and they should all be FAST.  I'm guessing that will only help him.  Here was our guy from last year.  You 2 are similar runners.

Leg 2 -- This will be mine.  I'm familiar with this area as this is where my son plays soccer and I've run around this lake where we start.  It's a relatively flat segment until we cross the bridge.  I'm hoping to get this done between 7:30 and 7:45 pace.  What'll be fun is the fact that I'll be getting in less than 10 minutes before the station closes based on our start time.  Pressure?  :)

Leg 3 -- This is the one I ran last year.  @tri-man 47 should do well here.  There's an initial descent where you can really pick up speed and then it's just a nice and flat 3 miles with some shade to boot.  I did this last year at a 7:24 pace

Leg 4 -- A nice and flat 7 mile run for @JShare87.  This should be a little after 9am so should be a good run for him. 

Leg 5 -- This is where the challenge starts.  @gruecd starts with a trail leg.  That said, he compares similarly to guys ranked in the top 10 on that leg.  I'm pretty sure he'll finish this with a sub 8 pace. 

Leg 6 -- @ChiefD should do well here.  I know you're worried about losing time here, but if you look at the leaderboard for this leg, you compare favorably to a lot of the guys in the top 25.  There's only 1 decent climb, but IIRC, the person who ran this last year said it wasn't too bad. 

Leg 7 -- Juxt gets a trail leg here.  Again, you are a very similar runner to the guy we had on our team last year who did this.  Here was his leg.  I think you'll do close to that.

Leg 8 -- Another relatively flat 4 mile leg for me.  Once again, I'm shooting for 7:30-7:45 here. 

Leg 9 -- Tri-man gets this trail leg.  I did this one last year.  The first 3 miles or so are nice and flat and easy.  But this trail kicked my ###.  Keep in mind, I'd never run a trail before so that's part of it.  Here was what I did.  After the climb, it wasn't terrible, but that climb took a lot out of me.  There's a final climb to get to the relay point that sucks, though.

Leg 10 -- JShare gets a flat 2.6 mile leg to blaze.  In the afternoon.  Expecting a lot!!  :)

Leg 11 -- Oh, poor Grue.  This is going to be the worst of the day for anyone, I think.  7 1/2 miles of open running in the afternoon with no shade.  Just get it done.

Leg 12 -- Alright, Chief.  3.8 miles of flat open land to burn.  If you can run a HM at an 8 min pace, this should be a piece of cake for you  :)

Leg 13 -- 7 flat miles for Juxt.  Our guy last year ran this really hard.  But it was hot as hell and he almost passed out when he was done.  The biggest challenge here will be the heat along with it being your 3rd run. 

Leg 14 -- Another flat 4 mile run for me.  I'm not letting up and plan on hitting 7:30-7:45 for all my runs.  That's the hope, at least.

Leg 15 -- This is a pretty flat 5 mile run for tri-man.  But, this is also the one I bonked in.  With your experience, you should do well here.

Leg 16 -- Another flat 3.4 mile run in the heat for JShare to smoke.  Just need the wheels to hold up!

Leg 17 --- Grue finally gets rewarded with a 5K distance like run in the afternoon after his first 2 legs.  He should love this, right?

Leg 18 -- Chief gets to bring us home.  You're running through the city of Hermann for most of this.  There's a bridge you go over and then we join you at the very end and cross together.  That motivation alone should pick up the pace.  That, or Grue will just throw you on his back and carry you across.

 
Leg 6 -- @ChiefD should do well here.  I know you're worried about losing time here, but if you look at the leaderboard for this leg, you compare favorably to a lot of the guys in the top 25.  There's only 1 decent climb, but IIRC, the person who ran this last year said it wasn't too bad. 
I appreciate the kind words, but there is NO WAY I'm running this segment in an 8:28 pace, which is the 25th ranked guy to run that segment.

I calculated some stuff this morning, and at best I'm gonna be 9:45 pace for that entire segment. 

 
I appreciate the kind words, but there is NO WAY I'm running this segment in an 8:28 pace, which is the 25th ranked guy to run that segment.

I calculated some stuff this morning, and at best I'm gonna be 9:45 pace for that entire segment. 
If you say so. ;)

That 25th ranked guy has a PR of 2 hours in the HM, 4:31 in the marathon, and a 27 minute 5K.

If he can do it in 8:30, well.....

An even slower guy ranked #33 who ran it last year was under 9:00. 

Lol@9:45. Only if you plan on taking a few dumps along the way and stopping for moonshine.

 
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If you say so. ;)

That 25th ranked guy has a PR of 2 hours in the HM, 4:31 in the marathon, and a 27 minute 5K.

If he can do it in 8:30, well.....
It's all going to depend on the condition of the trail. I'm comparing my time to what I saw on my trail run this past weekend. If it's that wet, 8:30 is simply not possible.

 
I'll post my thoughts on some of these from what I remember (drove 2 years ago and ran last year)

Leg 1 -- This starts on a High School Track and it's a short and quick first leg.  @Juxtatarot should be able to smoke this.  He's also going to only be running with 4 others and they should all be FAST.  I'm guessing that will only help him.  Here was our guy from last year.  You 2 are similar runners.
They stagger the start times for different teams? 

 
Are all my legs on a paved road? Trying to figure out what shoes to bring. 
It's crushed limestone. 

Very runnable, but depending on rain, might be a little sloppy.

I recommend everyone bring at least 2 pairs of shoes, and 3 is probably better. I changed mine after every run last year.

 
They stagger the start times for different teams? 
Yep. Some teams are starting at 4:30am. There are starts every 15-30 minutes. We are the last start at 8am. It's based on team paces so that everyone finishes between 4-8pm.

2 years ago, when I drove,  we started at 5am (slow team).

Last year was 6:30am.

 
It's crushed limestone. 

Very runnable, but depending on rain, might be a little sloppy.

I recommend everyone bring at least 2 pairs of shoes, and 3 is probably better. I changed mine after every run last year.
Ok. Pretty confident I will be under 7 min pace for each run. How far under is yet to be determined. 

 
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Yep. Some teams are starting at 4:30am. There are starts every 15-30 minutes. We are the last start at 8am. It's based on team paces so that everyone finishes between 4-8pm.

2 years ago, when I drove,  we started at 5am (slow team).

Last year was 6:30am.
Now your comment about "because you ####ers are so fast" makes sense. thx. 

 
I'll post my thoughts on some of these from what I remember (drove 2 years ago and ran last year)

Leg 9 -- Tri-man gets this trail leg.  I did this one last year.  The first 3 miles or so are nice and flat and easy.  But this trail kicked my ###.  Keep in mind, I'd never run a trail before so that's part of it.  Here was what I did.  After the climb, it wasn't terrible, but that climb took a lot out of me.  There's a final climb to get to the relay point that sucks, though.
I can see where the coyote attacked you. 😉 

 
I have about that in the worlds stinkiest closet by the front door. 
That's me, a shoe rack hung on the back of a closet that houses the furnace and water heater by the front door .  Currently rotating through three pairs of Hokas, but there are another 4-5 pairs in there that I'll mix in every once in a while.

Because I'm running dirt and mud all the time I actually clean my shoes pretty regularly (just hose them off outside) so the smell isn't too bad.  Or I'm just used to it.  But in any case it's probably good that the intake for the furnace is outside that particular closet and not inside it.

 
I appreciate the kind words, but there is NO WAY I'm running this segment in an 8:28 pace, which is the 25th ranked guy to run that segment.

I calculated some stuff this morning, and at best I'm gonna be 9:45 pace for that entire segment. 
Obviously I’m one of the least qualified people to chime in here but I think you’ll surprise yourself.  I get the sense that a relay will give you a boost, you’ll obviously have to be careful not to bonk but I think the adrenaline rush could be used for good.

Or I’m talking out of my ###.  One or the other.

 
Ok, I decided to do some predictions based on what you guys have said and what I've seen you guys do and also just some pure guesswork (not everyone is running a PR every leg, fatigue, heat, elevation, etc.).  And I might be way off on some of these (either too high or too low) so don't hold any of this against me, but I figured I'd give a shot at predicting paces/times for each leg to see where we are.  Especially the 3rd legs I dropped the paces some.  I think the end product is pretty close and why we got the start time we did, so here goes.  Asterisk denotes a trail leg so could widely vary.

Leg 1 (Juxt) -- 2.3 miles at 6:00 pace (I think those fast guys will push him).  Total time -- 13:48
Leg 2 (Gian) -- 3.93 miles at 7:40 pace.  Total time 30:06
Leg 3 (Tri) -- 3.2 miles at 7:00 pace.  Total time 22:24
Leg 4 (JShare) -- 7.25 miles at 6:50 pace.  Total time 49:32
*Leg 5 (Grue) -- 4.72 miles at 8:00 pace.  Total time 37:45
*Leg 6 (Chief) -- 5.9 miles at 9:00 pace.  Total time 53:06
*Leg 7 (Juxt) -- 5.73 miles at 7:00 pace.  Total time 40:06
Leg 8 (Gian) -- 4.43 miles at 7:40 pace.  Total time 34:00
*Leg 9 (Tri) -- 5 miles at 8:30 pace.  Total time 42:30
Leg 10 (JShare) -- 2.56  miles at 6:30 pace.  Total time 16:38
Leg 11 (Grue) -- 7.56 miles at 7:00 pace.  Total time 52:55
Leg 12 (Chief) -- 3.8 miles at 7:45 pace.  Total time 29:27
Leg 13 (Juxt) -- 7 miles at 7:00 pace.  Total time 49:00
Leg 14 (Gian) -- 4.2 miles at 7:50 pace.  Total time 32:56
Leg 15 (Tri) -- 5.3 miles at 8:00 pace.  Total time 42:24
Leg 16 (JShare) -- 3.4 miles at 6:45 pace.  Total time 22:57
Leg 17 (Grue) -- 3.84 miles at 7:00 pace.  Total time 26:54
Leg 18 (Chief) -- 3.14 miles at 8:00 pace.  Total time 25:07

Total miles = 83.26 miles
Total time = 10:21:44
Total pace:  7:28 pace

That would have been good enough for 4th place last year.  We would need to shave ~21 total minutes off for 3rd, or about 7 seconds off our total pace.  Which is possible.  But, since the top male team will certainly be in the overall standings, we would still get hardware for that assuming all the above is accurate and similar times from last year.

Of note, here are the total distance/times for each person based on this:

@Juxtatarot -- 15.03 miles/1:42:55
@gianmarco -- 12.56 miles/1:37:00
@tri-man 47 -- 13.5 miles/1:47:18
@JShare87 -- 13.21 miles/1:29:08
@gruecd-- 16.12 miles/1:57:34
@ChiefD-- 12.84 miles/1:47:40

Grue is definitely doing the heavy lifting.  I've got the easiest running for sure.  Chief has the best position (won't have to listen to Grue after each leg).  Juxt and JShare with chances to put up some really speedy legs and challenge our driving.  And Tri is a big wildcard as I went way conservative on the trail leg and I bet he's going to make me regret those paces and is probably where we can make up the most time.

P.S. -- If any of you want me to adjust any of those times for yourself, let me know and I'll update this post.

 
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I guess I'll be more like a 7:15 pace for leg 3 (7:00 would be a hard 5K effort), but then 7:40 pace for leg 15.  That happens to shave some overall time.

I'm currently dealing with a sporadic tight cough.  Saw a nurse practitioner today, and she didn't find anything alarming.  I expect it'll be fine for race weekend.  On the scale at the doc's office, I weighed in at 168 - fully clothed and in shoes!  I'm usually around 175.  I believe the constant heat in Cuba (and a hot afternoon run) along with a stomach bug over the final two days drained me down big time.  The drop in weight could be a cause for the cough and general lethargy.  This too shall pass.

 
What's the plan or strategy to stay loose in between efforts?  It looks like everyone will have about 3 hours in between runs.

 
Let's not get too excited as there's still time for things to change, but currently a high of 78 (and low of 61 to start the day) for race day.

If that holds, it will be glorious. Of course, humidity will be nuts with the rain, but we take any small victories.

Also, rain looks intermittent next week. We might end up with best of both worlds (enough to cool some but not enough to impact the terrain).

 
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I have never run a relay, but do you think you'll be able to run at half marathon pace effort over your 16 miles for the day? I was thinking about how I'd approach it and I wasn't sure if I could.
Yes.  You're obviously tired/stiff for your 2nd and 3rd legs, but it's easier to push through the discomfort knowing that your teammates are waiting for you at the end.  You also don't want to "waste" your teammates' good efforts if you suck.

 
What's the plan or strategy to stay loose in between efforts?  It looks like everyone will have about 3 hours in between runs.
I'll be taking notes.  The one I'm doing doing mid-June is only two legs though.  Planning on doing a test run a few days after the June 1 fun.

 
Yeah, nothing special here either, to be honest.  If time allows, I'll do a little warmup run right before each leg, but that's about it.
You're the Kelly Leak to my Buttermaker. You'll probably bring your motorcycle and strap it to the roof, then smoke a couple of heaters before your legs.

 
What's the plan or strategy to stay loose in between efforts?  It looks like everyone will have about 3 hours in between runs.
This is my biggest concern. Obviously I’ve never done a relay, so I have no clue how to approach this. I don’t really know how to hold back during a race. After my races or hard workouts, it’s a struggle for me to walk once I shut it down, let alone run 2 more “races” Hoping I can limp through my last 2 legs. That’s why I’m thankful my 1st leg is the longest. Pretty sure I can suck it up for a 2 and 3 mile run later on. I feel bad for @gruecd, but he truly is our best candidate to tackle the monster legs he’s faced with. 

 
Yeah, nothing special here either, to be honest.  If time allows, I'll do a little warmup run right before each leg, but that's about it.
There's going to be little to no time to do that. 

Unfortunately, there just isn't much to do other than sit in the van and drive to the next stop. We will mostly all meet each runner so you can walk some to stretch a little. But otherwise, it's just "go" time when you're up.

If I could do this last year as a novice, you guys will be fine. I was an idiot and tried to PR my first leg, too, and actually did it. Didn't make the last 2 legs fun. You guys will be smarter than that. 

But seriously, the worst part of the day was the final run with our last runner to cross the finish line. By then, my legs were screaming "#### you" with every step. 

I should go back and repost that report in case I'm forgetting anything.

 
Also, already mentioned to @gruecd, but are we going together for a shakeout run together on Friday when you guys drive into town? If so, I figured we could go to the park and get a good run in there. We could run around my house but it's a lot hillier.

 
Also, already mentioned to @gruecd, but are we going together for a shakeout run together on Friday when you guys drive into town? If so, I figured we could go to the park and get a good run in there. We could run around my house but it's a lot hillier.
That's fine with me.  I won't run in the morning then.

 

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