Ran a 10k - Official Thread (8 Viewers)

[gruecd]

Next pacing gig is Miami Marathon in February.

Do they need any more help? 

 

[MAC_32]

Fall Classic Half Marathon

I don’t think I’ve ever woken up before my alarm raceday. I don’t know if it was a product of race morning or I just had enough sleep, but I woke at 5:30 and quickly realized that was it for sleep. So I turned off the 6:15 alarm and got the morning started earlier than anticipated. I altered the order of events (eating, coffee, eroticism, scrolling, #### #1, shower, etc.), but other than that the only real noteworthy item was my being hungrier than usual. Ever since I started IF this summer I don’t eat much before noon nor do I really want to, but not this morning. I imagine it was due to my eating my large meal (salmon and rice) the day before at 2 pm, but I was very happy I packed contingency food rather than just what I usually eat. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best confirmed! So I mowed down a couple of clementines and some nuts on the drive in addition to my egg and banana breakfast, apple, and pre-race pretzels.

I got to the site and couldn’t help but laugh at the conditions as I walked to the start/finish area. The road was a sheet of ice. I parked at the top of a small hill (50’) and just kinda skated down into the valley. Once down I made a mental note to be sure to check the updated hourly when I got back to my car after the warm-up to see if ice may be a problem during the race. After emerging from the porto potty and began jogging a smile crept up on my face a quarter mile into the warm-up as I turned to the south and was greeted by a giant yellow object in the sky. I looked to the west and saw nothing but blue behind it – the clouds are clearing out before we start this thing, can’t ask for much better conditions - 30, sunny, and the wind was just crisp/not breezy. I get back to the car to change into racing gear and get as warm as possible before the gun. I find myself with an extra few minutes after I check the hourly weather and respond to a few texts, so I pop into the 10K thread for some early morning laughs. I wasn’t ready for a photo of a couple of dum dum’s though. Erupted in laughter so loudly the young hottie in the car next to me looked over to see what the hell I was cackling about. Thanks, fellas.

I finally leave the warm, friendly confines of my car 15 minutes before the gun then upon jogging down the still icy hill and seeing the porto potty line decide to take a trip down memory lane - 'I was running a bit late...and then I saw the line for the bathroom. Oops. Well, it's ten minutes to the gun and there's no way I can get through this line...so, plan b. It was cold and those I knew coming to watch weren't coming til either halfway or the end, so I wore these old sweat pants that I planned to dump at the start line and if I couldn't find them afterwards - oh well. Instead, they were used as tp. I jogged out of the woods after I took care of business and slid into line about five-seven rows back literally ten seconds before the gun. Never been more proud of myself.' I only needed a race nerves #1 this time and (un?)fortunately someone responsibly took care of those sweatpants I left behind 4 years ago. I’d feel bad if I weren’t such an ### hole. So I walk to the line and settle in about 5 minutes before the start. Wired up, dum dum in mouth, and hoodie ready to dump on the side of the road – exact same attire as 2 weeks ago. All black (tank, shorts, gloves, compression socks, and shoes) with a green headband. LFG!!!

Mile 1 (6:01)

In typical fashion, I started off way too fast as I looked down a quarter mile in and saw 5:24. If you pull up the run on a desktop you can pinpoint the moment I looked down. A few seconds later I found my first ice patch too. It was just an awkward step, but a gentle reminder that I need to pay attention to this stuff today. So a not surprisingly bumpy start, but things begin to go smoothly from there.

Miles 2 and 3 (6:04/6:06)

As I settle into my race strategy of surging the first minute or so of a mile then back it off before a ¾ mile check I realize I’m not going to have to. I get passed by a pack of 7, including a nice big red wedgie. Eye candy and I don’t need to worry about pacing myself as it’s clear they’re going out at hour 20 pace and will take care of it for me. So I settle in about 2 strides behind the pack of rabbits.

Miles 4, 5, and 6 (6:06/6:08/6:11)

Unfortunately the pack slowly deteriorates and the wedgie was the first to drop out. Only two of us, myself and backwards hat, remained in mile 6 as we joined in with the slower 5K runners (5K started 15 minutes after us). I knew this was coming as I have done this race before, but it’s still a bit challenging mentally dancing around slower 5Ker’s. I kept my eyes on backwards hat and used him as an offensive lineman, which mostly worked but there were a couple of times the holes were filled by the time I got to them and I had to improvise. As we approached the halfway point I noticed I was feeling quite warm and thought that along with the 5Ker’s may have contributed to the slower 6th mile. As a test I took my gloves off and decided if my hands didn’t feel too cold by the time I got around to my hoodie at 6.7 I’d dump them there.

Miles 7, 8, and 9 (6:06/6:13/6:11)

I dumped the gloves, popped a couple chews, passed backwards hat, and thought I was back on track with my 6:06 7th mile. I knew I needed to go back to my original strategy at this point as I had lost my rabbits though. I surged the beginning of the mile, did a check to see 5:XX at about a quarter mile, backed it off, would check back at ¾ mile and see 6:10 or so, wait 30 seconds or so, then surge again until checking again at the next quarter mile. I was still seeing 5:XX at the quarter mile checks, but I was aware of the slower splits. I knew miles 10 and 11 would tell the story as I was confident I could channel my 5K technique if I got there on pace, but I could not open things up sooner or I thought I would blow up.

Miles 10 and 11 (6:23/6:24)

Well, ####. I didn’t feel like I was going slower, but time’s don’t lie. I sustained the same technique, but I was clearly not moving my feet as quickly nor covering as much ground with my strides. I briefly thought about going to the 5K technique early, but juice vs. squeeze – likelihood of sustaining it for 4 miles was not good and even if I was able I don’t think it’d be enough to get the A goal. Plus I still had a B goal. So let’s get that. I popped my final couple chews and maintained the same strategy - surge to a quarter mile, back it off til ¾ mile, then finish that mile strong and surge into the next one. The time’s were just about 15-20 seconds slower than early in the race.

Mile 12 (6:25)

I was actually happy to see someone pass me as I approached this mile, but…he blew by me. It was way too brisk to use him as a rabbit. I went with him for about a minute anyway, but that light headed vomit feeling came over me and I was reminded about this happening 2 weeks ago. We were way too far out from the finish to consider this devil’s dance, so I let him go then resumed the original strategy. It made me happy with my decision from earlier though. 4 miles of pain were one thing, but if I was that close to my mHR then doing so would not have gone well. Once my bearings were back together I shifted to the 5K technique and opened up the stride. I stopped watching my pace at this point as pace didn’t matter. It was all maximum sufferage. Plus I knew the pace would be slower and seeing that would only be counter-productive, if anything.

Mile 13 (6:21)

I really hope no one got a photo of me in this mile. It was all grit. A total grind. And I know I was wearing it on my face. It felt angry, but probably looked like crying. Everything hurt and I wanted to die. So I knew I was doing it right.

Mile “0.36” (5:37)

I have no idea where I found that final burst. It didn’t feel much different than everything prior. Increased crowds? Shrug, I don’t know. Damn proud to see it though.

Official time – 1:22:44 (6:11 pace), 10th of 612, age group win - PR by more than a minute

Slightly better than the hour 43 I laid down at this race 5 years ago in my half marathon debut. A long way in a short period of time. The race was unfortunately long, but not by as much as indicated. The consensus seemed to be around 13.25. Looking at my graph I think my gps went haywire going under a freeway underpass four separate times. So I’m just gonna call this PR an hour 22, many of us round down in this sport anyway.

I’m very happy with everything about yesterday – the prep, the plan, and the execution. I haven’t been this sore after a race in a long time, so I am confident I didn’t leave anything out there. Even more so after looking at the published race photos. They didn't get any of me mid-race (probably a good thing), but scroll down to the finish line photos and look at #5. I had nothing left. That was a great way to end what was supposed to be just a maintenance year - and now it’s time to use that as a springboard into a spring BQ attempt. Third time’s the charm – and I will make it this time. Let’s dance.

 

[pbm107]

Targeting last workout for cycle tomorrow morn and massage scheduled for evening.  Feeling better this week than last week so that’s gooood. 

Congrats on getting through another cycle, your Marathon paced runs are much faster and at a lower heart rate than last cycle.  Do you have dinner plans the night before the race? My group of 4 has reservations at Blackwall Hitch at 6:15, I am sure we could add a couple if you're interested.

 

[ChiefD]

Do they need any more help? 

I think they are looking for guys who won't attempt to kill the runners.

 

[MAC_32]

I am in awe about what you just did, @gianmarco. I'm sure there are comparable successful sufferage reports somewhere in here, but none immediately come to mind. I get that you may not have accomplished that without @gruecd, but the point is - you did. Seriously, sitting here in my office with my jaw on the floor.

 

[Juxtatarot]

@MAC_32  Congrats again on the PR and hanging in there at the end!  Would you definitely run Boston 2021 if you qualify?

 

[gruecd]

Official time – 1:22:44 (6:11 pace), 10th of 612, age group win

Slightly better than the hour 43 I laid down at this race 5 years ago in my half marathon debut. A long way in a short period of time. The race was unfortunately long, but not by as much as indicated. The consensus seemed to be around 13.25. Looking at my graph I think my gps went haywire going under a freeway underpass four separate times. So I’m just gonna call this PR an hour 22, many of us round down in this sport anyway.

I’m very happy with everything about yesterday – the prep, the plan, and the execution. I haven’t been this sore after a race in a long time, so I am confident I didn’t leave anything out there. Even more so after looking at the published race photos. They didn't get any of me mid-race (probably a good thing), but scroll down to the finish line photos and look at #5. I had nothing left. That was a great way to end what was supposed to be just a maintenance year - and now it’s time to use that as a springboard into a spring BQ attempt. Third time’s the charm – and I will make it this time. Let’s dance.

Helluva race, man.  You're a monster.  Looking forward to seeing you in Boston 2021!

 

[MAC_32]

@MAC_32  Congrats again on the PR and hanging in there at the end!  Would you definitely run Boston 2021 if you qualify?

100%

 

[bushdocda]

Congrats on getting through another cycle, your Marathon paced runs are much faster and at a lower heart rate than last cycle.  Do you have dinner plans the night before the race? My group of 4 has reservations at Blackwall Hitch at 6:15, I am sure we could add a couple if you're interested.

Thanks man, Will have to think about when we’ll arrive on Friday and let you know. Might just get down in time for bib pickup at 8.  We have a Blackwall Hitch in Annapolis, nice place that has expanded to a couple spots i now see.  

Gotta rough out a Saturday plan too as we’re staying over.  I roughly expect some post race pops, cleanup/brief rest, big drinks & dinner.  

 

[TripleThreat]

Nice work Studs @gianmarco @MAC_32

 

[gruecd]

There's a quote that I read one time that said, "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible."  I'm not going to write up a race report, because I'd just be repeating everything that @gianmarco already told you guys.  What I will say is that I knew that he was capable of running faster (for longer) than he thought he could.  He just needed a little push.

Going in, I told him that my goal was for us to run 8-minute pace for the first 10K and then drop the hammer, but my real goal was just to help him get beyond his self-imposed limits and get everything out of himself that he possibly could, and I think we did that.  I think @ChiefD kinda alluded to this, but you can't really appreciate the agony of going deep into the pain cave until you've been there.  Your brain goes into self-preservation mode and keeps sending signals to your body to slow down or even quit, and I was just trying to be the counter to all of that. The hardest part for me was trying to find a balance between tough love and encouragement, so hopefully I did a good job of that.   I could tell that he was already working hard after just a couple of miles, and I just kept telling him that it's OK, that 15Ks are supposed to be like that, that it's not a marathon where you just "cruise" for a while and really just battle towards the end.  I tried getting him to push to hold pace on the hills and to recover on the downhills that inevitably followed.  When he started to slow down in the 8th mile, I thought I was going to lose him and worried that maybe I pushed him a little too hard.  The way he rallied and finished that race...words really can't express how proud I am of him.

It's funny how this board brings people together.  I think I've spent a total of maybe 3-4 days with @gianmarco in my life, and I already consider him a close friend.  Not an "internet friend" or a "Facebook" friend, but a REAL one. From opening his home to my wife and me to opening her car door over and over again (yeah man, I noticed), I can't say enough good things about this guy.

 

[gruecd]

Sorry for the super long report, but this has turned into one of my favorite races I've ever done and not because of my PR.  

Same here, man.  Congratulations again.  Super proud of you.

 

[MAC_32]

There's a quote that I read one time that said, "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible."  I'm not going to write up a race report, because I'd just be repeating everything that @gianmarco already told you guys.  What I will say is that I knew that he was capable of running faster (for longer) than he thought he could.  He just needed a little push.

Going in, I told him that my goal was for us to run 8-minute pace for the first 10K and then drop the hammer, but my real goal was just to help him get beyond his self-imposed limits and get everything out of himself that he possibly could, and I think we did that.  I think @ChiefD kinda alluded to this, but you can't really appreciate the agony of going deep into the pain cave until you've been there.  Your brain goes into self-preservation mode and keeps sending signals to your body to slow down or even quit, and I was just trying to be the counter to all of that. The hardest part for me was trying to find a balance between tough love and encouragement, so hopefully I did a good job of that.   I could tell that he was already working hard after just a couple of miles, and I just kept telling him that it's OK, that 15Ks are supposed to be like that, that it's not a marathon where you just "cruise" for a while and really just battle towards the end.  I tried getting him to push to hold pace on the hills and to recover on the downhills that inevitably followed.  When he started to slow down in the 8th mile, I thought I was going to lose him and worried that maybe I pushed him a little too hard.  The way he rallied and finished that race...words really can't express how proud I am of him.

It's funny how this board brings people together.  I think I've spent a total of maybe 3-4 days with @gianmarco in my life, and I already consider him a close friend.  Not an "internet friend" or a "Facebook" friend, but a REAL one. From opening his home to my wife and me to opening her car door over and over again (yeah man, I noticed), I can't say enough good things about this guy.

The FBG bored won't let me, but I loved this post multiple times.

 

[gianmarco]

 I find myself with an extra few minutes after I check the hourly weather and respond to a few texts, so I pop into the 10K thread for some early morning laughs. I wasn’t ready for a photo of a couple of dum dum’s though. Erupted in laughter so loudly the young hottie in the car next to me looked over to see what the hell I was cackling about. Thanks, fellas.

Just amazing.  So glad you got the result you deserved from this cycle. 

As for the above, I call my wife the day before while she was out and I go "hey, can you pick up a couple of dum dums while you're at the store".  She asks me why.  I tell her to just get them and I'll tell you the story later.  Told her when she got home and she's just shaking her head. 

Next morning, we get the pictures with the dum dums.  And @gruecd goes "I'm kind of digging this thing.  I can see the appeal".  I actually ran the first 3-4 miles with that ####### dum dum in my mouth.  I always chew gum when I run so my mouth doesn't get dry and I got to admit that the dum dum was much better than I expected.  Plus, we were the only 2 idiots out of a few thousand people that had them I think.

 

[MAC_32]

There's a quote that I read one time that said, "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible."  I'm not going to write up a race report, because I'd just be repeating everything that @gianmarco already told you guys.  What I will say is that I knew that he was capable of running faster (for longer) than he thought he could.  He just needed a little push.

This. This. So much this. We all have this self imposed barrier. It isn't always up, but it's always there. Every time you over come it you become that much better. Because now you know you can take it to that next level you previously didn't think you had.

 

[MAC_32]

Just amazing.  So glad you got the result you deserved from this cycle. 

As for the above, I call my wife the day before while she was out and I go "hey, can you pick up a couple of dum dums while you're at the store".  She asks me why.  I tell her to just get them and I'll tell you the story later.  Told her when she got home and she's just shaking her head. 

Next morning, we get the pictures with the dum dums.  And @gruecd goes "I'm kind of digging this thing.  I can see the appeal".  I actually ran the first 3-4 miles with that ####### dum dum in my mouth.  I always chew gum when I run so my mouth doesn't get dry and I got to admit that the dum dum was much better than I expected.  Plus, we were the only 2 idiots out of a few thousand people that had them I think.

I have converts!!!

 

[pbm107]

Official time – 1:22:44 (6:11 pace), 10th of 612, age group win - PR by more than a minute

Congrats on the huge PR, Boston 2021 would be something I'd have to consider.

 

[gianmarco]

I have converts!!!

And, I felt a little badass with it too.  I just kept picturing angryMac about to tear some kids up.  Maybe I should have kept it all race and I would have done better. 

 

[Juxtatarot]

Congrats on the huge PR, Boston 2021 would be something I'd have to consider.

If you, @MAC_32, @gruecd and maybe others here all run Boston 2021 then I will too.

 

[JShare87]

If you, @MAC_32, @gruecd and maybe others here all run Boston 2021 then I will too.

Same.

 

[ChiefD]

If you, @MAC_32, @gruecd and maybe others here all run Boston 2021 then I will too.

Same.

Ok, ok...since all of you guys are gonna go, I guess I'll just go out and qualify also. 

 

[Juxtatarot]

Ok, ok...since all of you guys are gonna go, I guess I'll just go out and qualify also. 

Giddy-up!

 

[gianmarco]

If all of you are going, I will be there to hand out dum dums, RF;DBAP shirts, and any kind of erotistims you guys need either before or after the race.

 

[ChiefD]

I have converts!!!

You have inspired a new philosophy"

Inhaling Dum-Dums Increases Our Training Speed 

IDDIOTS for short.

 

[xulf]

@MAC_32 - total badassery there.  Great run and report.  I love seeing inside the minds of this group!

 

[gianmarco]

Ok, so this Boston talk just got me looking at some stuff.

Mrs. GM is now in the 45-49 group.  Her qualifying time for that AG would be 3:55:00 (and the actual accepted times were 3:50:08)

That's an 8:45 pace. 

Based on the calculators, with her run yesterday, she could run a 3:43:00 (8:30 pace) marathon.  Which is a pretty big cushion. 

However, she's never run a full marathon (just several HMs). 

I don't know if I can convince her to go for it, but if so, what would be the timeline/deadline for her to run one and try to get in for 2021 with all of you IDDIOTS?  What are her chances of hitting that mark on her first marathon try?

 

[Juxtatarot]

Ok, so this Boston talk just got me looking at some stuff.

Mrs. GM is now in the 45-49 group.  Her qualifying time for that AG would be 3:55:00 (and the actual accepted times were 3:50:08)

That's an 8:45 pace. 

Based on the calculators, with her run yesterday, she could run a 3:43:00 (8:30 pace) marathon.  Which is a pretty big cushion. 

However, she's never run a full marathon (just several HMs). 

I don't know if I can convince her to go for it, but if so, what would be the timeline/deadline for her to run one and try to get in for 2021 with all of you IDDIOTS?  What are her chances of hitting that mark on her first marathon try?

Deadline is early/mid September. 

 

[MAC_32]

Ok, so this Boston talk just got me looking at some stuff.

Mrs. GM is now in the 45-49 group.  Her qualifying time for that AG would be 3:55:00 (and the actual accepted times were 3:50:08)

That's an 8:45 pace. 

Based on the calculators, with her run yesterday, she could run a 3:43:00 (8:30 pace) marathon.  Which is a pretty big cushion. 

However, she's never run a full marathon (just several HMs). 

I don't know if I can convince her to go for it, but if so, what would be the timeline/deadline for her to run one and try to get in for 2021 with all of you IDDIOTS?  What are her chances of hitting that mark on her first marathon try?

Multiply her half PR by 2.25. I think there's some legitimacy to the 2.1-2.25 scale. Since she's low on volume I'd go with the outer end of the scale, especially with it being her first.

 

[gianmarco]

Multiply her half PR by 2.25. I think there's some legitimacy to the 2.1-2.25 scale. Since she's low on volume I'd go with the outer end of the scale, especially with it being her first.

She just ran a 1:50:30 HM for a PR (and went out way too fast running her first 4 miles even faster than what she did yesterday and suffered for it).  She definitely has potential for better, but let's go with that.  At 2.1, that puts her right at that 3:50 cutoff.  Using 2.25 and she isn't close.

:(

 

[bushdocda]

Ok, so this Boston talk just got me looking at some stuff.

Mrs. GM is now in the 45-49 group.  Her qualifying time for that AG would be 3:55:00 (and the actual accepted times were 3:50:08)

That's an 8:45 pace. 

Based on the calculators, with her run yesterday, she could run a 3:43:00 (8:30 pace) marathon.  Which is a pretty big cushion. 

However, she's never run a full marathon (just several HMs). 

I don't know if I can convince her to go for it, but if so, what would be the timeline/deadline for her to run one and try to get in for 2021 with all of you IDDIOTS?  What are her chances of hitting that mark on her first marathon try?

I might be looking at wrong thing but I don’t think so. 45-49 women for 2021 is 3:50 before any cutoff/buffer adj  

https://www.baa.org/races/boston-marathon/enter/qualify

 

[Juxtatarot]

She just ran a 1:50:30 HM for a PR (and went out way too fast and suffered for it).  She definitely has potential for better, but let's go with that.  At 2.1, that puts her right at that 3:50 cutoff.  Using 2.25 and she isn't close.

:(

I assumed she didn't have much interest in running marathons. 

 

[gianmarco]

I might be looking at wrong thing but I don’t think so. 45-49 women for 2021 is 3:50 before any cutoff/buffer adj  

https://www.baa.org/races/boston-marathon/enter/qualify

I was looking here

 

[gianmarco]

I assumed she didn't have much interest in running marathons. 

She doesn't.  I'm going to use this thread's crack dealer techniques to get her interested.

But before I do that, I want to know if it's even reasonable for her to try.

 

[bushdocda]

I was looking here

It got adjusted faster to try to reduce the buffer. Takeaway for me is to get faster and older. 

 

[ChiefD]

It got adjusted faster to try to reduce the buffer. Takeaway for me is to get faster and older. 

I get older, but my running stays the same age.

 

[xulf]

My feet have been hurting more than usual lately so I went and got my feet scanned to try and get a better feel on what I need to be putting my feet in.  Since @Zasada shared his smaller than normal girthed appendages ( ) I thought I would throw mine out too https://my.volumental.com/en/fleet_feet/e3745b2e-7f51-415b-8a91-769d5f82ae8e/?utm_medium=myvemail

I have super high arches and an overall shorter and fatter right foot.  After trying several shoes, and inserts I'm now in NB 880s (wide) with the highest arched insert they had.  I'm hoping this helps me out, b/c the last couple of days have sucked (not coincidentally, this also occurred with my increased cadence and striking mid foot with not enough support instead of on my heel).

 

[MAC_32]

She just ran a 1:50:30 HM for a PR (and went out way too fast and suffered for it).  She definitely has potential for better, but let's go with that.  At 2.1, that puts her right at that 3:50 cutoff.  Using 2.25 and she isn't close.

:(

Based on yesterday I think she could run a 1:46-1:47. That'd give her a cushion up to 2.16 or thereabouts. So, aggressive and would require a strong training cycle, but possible. 

I think the bigger problem may be convincing her to train through winter for a spring marathon or getting her to travel for one at the beginning of September. Cause you're not attempting a BQ anywhere near St. Louis before October or November.

 

[xulf]

I assumed she didn't have much interest in running marathons. 

"Hey honey, I want to hang out with my iFriends in Boston --- how about you go train for and run a marathon?  We can get @gruecd to pace you to make sure you qualify."

 

[gianmarco]

"Hey honey, I want to hang out with my iFriends in Boston --- how about you go train for and run a marathon?  We can get @gruecd to pace you to make sure you qualify."

This is pretty much, word for word, what I was thinking.  I just hadn't asked Grue yet.....

 

[gianmarco]

Based on yesterday I think she could run a 1:46-1:47. That'd give her a cushion up to 2.16 or thereabouts. So, aggressive and would require a strong training cycle, but possible. 

I think the bigger problem may be convincing her to train through winter for a spring marathon or getting her to travel for one at the beginning of September. Cause you're not attempting a BQ anywhere near St. Louis before October or November.

Already have something in mind.

Thanks @JShare87

 

[bushdocda]

Already have something in mind.

Thanks @JShare87

You’re not suggesting she run this without you are you?  

 

[Juxtatarot]

You’re not suggesting she run this without you are you?  

I can picture Gian laying on the couch with a bag of chips.  "Honey, shouldn't you be heading out for your 17-miler soon?" 

 

[xulf]

You’re not suggesting she run this without you are you?  

Uh...he will already be training for next year's Hot Chocolate race (just the 5K this time).

 

[belljr]

So noob running question here

I've been reading a lot of different takes and figure I'd get some insight here...

As stated I'm very out of shape running wise - like the worst I ever been. Gone are the days of running all day....

So I wanted to start slwo like I've been to try to limit injuries and work my way into a program

My plan is each week add a little more distance until I can run 3 miles (even if its an 11 minute pace) but I dont need to stop to rest....

At that time start to work on times...

I've read it may be better to work on times earlier.

I'm no where near trying to push anything - I'm just curious if I should try to get faster at say 2 miles vs getting to 5K then trying to better times.

tia

 

[bushdocda]

Shiz I shouldn’t have opened my mouth but I am supposed to visit Seattle friends this summer.  Might have just picked a week/weekend. 

 

[gruecd]

Already have something in mind.

Thanks @JShare87

I've always wanted to visit Washington State...

 

[gruecd]

I can picture Gian laying on the couch with a bag of chips plateful of Mrs. @gianmarco's delicious baked goods.  "Honey, shouldn't you be heading out for your 17-miler soon?" 

FYP

 

[gianmarco]

I can picture Gian laying on the couch with a bag of chips.  "Honey, shouldn't you be heading out for your 17-miler soon?" 

This literally had me LOL. 

 

[gianmarco]

I can picture Gian laying on the couch with an empty bag of chips plateful of Mrs. @gianmarco's delicious baked goods.  "Honey, shouldn't you be heading out for your 17-miler soon?  And when you get back, can you bake some more of these?" 

FYP

 

[gianmarco]

You’re not suggesting she run this without you are you?  

They have a HM too!

But no, if I could get her on board, this would give me a good reason to train and finally get one done so I don't have to listen to you IDDIOTS anymore.