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2019 Year-end Report

Your goals coming into the year, and were they achieved?

Have fun.

But seriously, I want to get a good 2-3 month base stretch of hitting 35-40 MPW and see where that takes me.  After that, I'm looking forward to our relay race in June and hope I can do well and better than last year.  Finally, that HM in October is circled on the calendar.  I'm going to make it my #####.

Well, I would say I didn't really hit these goals overall.  As far as having fun, this was a mixed bag.  I had a good first of the year leading up to the relay race.  We'll get to that a bit more afterward, but my results in the relay left a sour taste.  I didn't sign up for any more races except for the 15K I was already planning on and started with the MAF training that some of you may have heard about before as it's been mentioned once or twice here.  That was some of the most "fun" I had as it was new and somewhat changed my perspective in approaching what I'm doing out there.  Taking a REALLY long term approach in getting better, not just in 2-3 months, but over the next 2-3 years. 

As for the rest, I didn't race the HM.  I still haven't hit 40 miles in a week.  So, those goals weren't quite accomplished. 

However, that's ok, because I don't think I was ready (in more ways than one) to do that.

New accomplishments or PRs in 2019:

15K -- 1:15:04

Longest run -- 15 miles (yesterday)

Your proudest and/or best race (or moment within a race):

So, despite my relative lack of PRs and accomplishments, I did have a few things to list here:

1)  Chain of Rocks duathlon relay -- Ran 1.5 miles x 2.  6:44 pace for the first leg, 6:54 pace for the second leg.  I was in pretty good shape at the time and I'm still pretty proud of that race.  I know it's a really short distance and not much to it otherwise, but it was a good day for me.

2)  I'm going to list the KT82 relay race but not because of anything I did out there.  It was a proud moment just to have these guys come out here to race together.  So it deserves a mention here.

3)  Hot Chocolate 15K -- Yeah, this was pretty epic.  It was a PR.  And it was a decent time for me considering my lack of training going into it.  But that's not why it's listed.  It's all about @gruecd here and what he did with me and for me.  Unforgettable.  I hope one day to be able to do that for someone else in some form or fashion.  And, if we're talking about moments, digging in so deep to push to the finish when I felt like complete dog ####.  Listening to Grue get excited when that was going on was so awesome.

A race or training disappointment during 2019:

The relay race has to be listed here for me.  Specifically, the 3rd leg.  I mean, I know I gave it what I had at the time, but it was still a pretty major disappointment when everyone else was beasting.  I felt I had trained well but that didn't seem to be the case.  It set the tone for the rest of my year, both in a good and bad way.  I lost a lot of interest in racing but gained an appreciation for just being out there.  It was a good time for me to get some time off and refocus on what I wanted to do out there.  It helped lead me to doing MAF training which I think has been a positive for me.  Not much else to say on this at this point.

Total training volume during 2019:

Currently at 1075 miles and should get over 1100.  Considering I didn't hit 1000 miles last year, I'll take it.

Lesson(s) you’ve learned during the year:

There truly is no substitute for getting miles in.  I gained a significant appreciation for slow running and getting consistent miles in, at least for a couple months.  I think it's going to make a difference for me moving forward.

Best and/or funny memories of other guys’ training or races in 2019:

Oh man, there's just so much here.  There really is and I know I owe it to a lot of you to put some stuff down.  I'm going to try and keep it brief and I'm not going to hit everybody, but know that this thread is the reason I still hang around this place.  Moreso, just making true friends from here as time passes.

Let's start with the relay crew:

@JShare87 -- What a pleasure to finally meet you.  We have the hometown bond thing but even moreso I've looked forward to finally getting the chance to meet up in person for a while due to our family/work connections.  And it didn't disappoint.  Just a wonderful person and the guttiest performance of anyone at that race.  On top of that, I've had your first marathon earmarked in the back of my mind for a long time and finally pulled the trigger.  That you signed up the very same night to join me out there....man, no words.  Can't wait.  Hope you can take that next step and get that BQ you're craving.  The talent and ability is there and hope to see it all come together.

@tri-man 47 -- While I'd rather not picture your old nut sack dragging on the ground of my home, that's still a small price to get to meet up.  Wise, veteran, experienced...all words that are frequently used to describe you in here.  But so much more as he really looked out for all of us and wanted to see us do well.  Add in his great relay performance.  Sorry for interrupting your attempts to pee.

@Juxtatarot -- If there's been one person in this thread that has consistently, from the moment I first showed up here as a complete n00b, that has ALWAYS taken the time to help, give feedback, critique, offer support, well, it's Juxt.  And when you consider just what an incredible runner he is and to take the time to give back as much as he has, it just speaks to the kind of person he is.  Meeting in person confirmed all of that.  Seriously, just so grateful that you took part and came down. 

@gruecd -- Already mentioned stuff above, but watching you and Juxt go at it during the weekend was so much fun to watch.  And while I was prepared to watch you melt in the heat, you just made it your ##### and owned your legs.  Thank you again for your help last month, it was great meeting your better half, and look forward to meeting up again soon (location TBD). 

@ChiefD -- Listen, you (w)anker; -- I'm not gonna get all sappy and stuff here.  Just suffice to say that you've always been a light in this thread and a big reason I am where I am now with my running.  Watching you crush your races this year was so satisfying to read.  The end of your marathon....man, still chills.

@Brony -- Yeah, already mentioned above by others, but to come down and join us for the weekend when you weren't even racing, how ####### awesome.  And you STILL decided to run like 2 of the legs out there just for fun while helping take care of stuff.  I'll never forget you bringing my family to that spot during my 2nd leg to see them.  So thankful.  Look forward to meeting up again some time as well and hope you can eventually get healthy enough to get out there and do your thing. 

@Zasada -- Yeah, you just keep taking the next step.  With both of us coming in here around the same time, it's enjoyable to see you keep progressing.

@The Iguana -- If I remember correctly, you ran your first marathon this year.  That was kinda cool.  But seriously, stupid talent you've got and I have a feeling you'll be joining guys like Juxt, Grue, and PBM in no time.

@xulf -- Talk about another guy with some talent coming in out of nowhere.  It will be fun to watch what 2020 brings for you. 

@MAC_32 -- Along with Juxt, the other guy that has always taken the time to look at what I'm doing (and others) and give advice that always seems to resonate.  Man, you absolutely killed 2019 with your training and your races.  And those ####### dum dums.  Epic.  Thanks, GB.

@bushdocda -- Just another consistent year with progressive results.  The guy I look up to when it comes to that in here.  I say to myself "just be consistent and dedicated like him and the results will follow".  Congrats on a fantastic marathon.

@pbm107 -- I know this last race didn't go as you planned, but hoping you can find the right training that suits you so that you can get over your recent hump.  I don't have the speed or experience to even begin to understand what goes into everything that you guys do but when it clicks for you, I look forward to following along.

@-OZ- -- Even though your "thinking" reactions still drive me crazy, it's been great to see you get out running again and I'm so happy your marathon went as well as it did.  What a wonderful moment that must have been given all you've been through there.  Just another inspiration to remind us what's important in life.  Thank you for that.

@SteelCurtain -- "The grinder".  I know lately you've talked about your motivation lacking.  But, your contributions to others with your pacing, man, just inspiring.  This year seemed to be that for you.  So I hope 2020 brings you back what you've given to others, which is a tremendous amount.

@AAABatteries -- You are turning into a serious BMF.  So glad you're in here now and congratulations on changing your life around like you have.  Amazing.  Can't wait to keep up this journey alongside you.

@TripleThreat -- I don't know how you pulled that marathon off with your injury and lack of training, but that was such a touching moment.  Congrats.....your Pops would be so proud.

@JAA -- I know you've been taking some time off but noticed you've been getting back out there lately.  Your ironman performance was insane.  The fact you ran your first marathon ever as part of that Ironman....dude, wtf.  That shouldn't be possible.  Despite not being in good shape to get out, thank you for meeting up with me in Boston and getting out for a run.  Great dude even though I did knock him over at the end  :)   I hope you get out there soon in 2020 and can't wait to see what you have planned.

@SFBayDuck, @BassNBrew, @SayWhat? -- Sorry to put all 3 of you together but you guys are at a completely different level.  I can't comprehend.  I thought about all 3 of you yesterday when I'm finishing up my longest run and thinking "yeah, that's a fraction of what you guys race".  I know there were some disappointments this year but the fact you guys get out there despite that failure shows dedication that I won't ever fully comprehend.

I mean, there's so much more I can say about each of you (I didn't talk too much about actual race results), but I'm really thankful for this place.  It's life-changing.  It's motivation.  It's accountability.  It's laughter.  It's emotion.  It's accomplishments and failures.  But most importantly, it's picking each other up, getting out there the next day, and moving forward.  It's friendship. 

Goal(s) for 2020:

Not much, really.  I may run a marathon. 

 
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Oh man, there's just so much here.  There really is and I know I owe it to a lot of you to put some stuff down.  I'm going to try and keep it brief and I'm not going to hit everybody, but know that this thread is the reason I still hang around this place.  Moreso, just making true friends from here as time passes.

...

I mean, there's so much more I can say about each of you (I didn't talk too much about actual race results), but I'm really thankful for this place.  It's life-changing.  It's motivation.  It's accountability.  It's laughter.  It's emotion.  It's accomplishments and failures.  But most importantly, it's picking each other up, getting out there the next day, and moving forward.  It's friendship. 
So well worded! Got a little dusty in here reading between these 2 spots, IMO. Thanks for a great review of the year!

 
Better the wheel than nothing - not all of us have the resolve to suffer mother nature! I've definitely started to embrace the bad weather more - went out last night in the cold and dark and loved it. And I love it more and more as I continue to embrace it. But this time last year, not so much! And still if it is cold, dark and rainy, I'd rather go suffer the suck of the wheel or tiny little circles on the indoor track than suffer too much outside. 
Ultimately, I think it quite simply comes down to goals. And that's not meant to be singular. Most/all of us doing this have multiple goals and they're all in different orders. You're correct that the wheel is better than nothing, but if your first goal is to race as fast as you can then I think that is usually best accomplished by embracing the suck - as long as it's a safe and feasible option given however your schedule falls that day.

 
Ultimately, I think it quite simply comes down to goals. And that's not meant to be singular. Most/all of us doing this have multiple goals and they're all in different orders. You're correct that the wheel is better than nothing, but if your first goal is to race as fast as you can then I think that is usually best accomplished by embracing the suck - as long as it's a safe and feasible option given however your schedule falls that day.
I agree with you. But for a number of us the "first goal" is simply to be healthier. For me, trying to race fast is a motivator that helps me not be a fat slob on the couch rather than the ultimate goal. With that in mind, the fact that I've gone to the Y and ran on the treadmill or on the indoor track a handful of times in the last few weeks instead of not running at all is a HUGE win. 

I totally agree with you that just "sucking it up" and dealing with the elements is a much better way to go, assuming there isn't risk of injury (i.e. ice). But I'll happily slink my way indoors and still do some work over not doing anything at all. It's far too easy for "not doing anything" to become a habit and not nearly as easy to make "doing work" be the norm when it isn't. 

 
I'll set solid goals as I prepare for the races. I still have some work to do to prove to myself what is real verses just a pipe dream. For the May HM, I'd like to try for 1:30 but that's a 6:50/mile and that's the pace I ran a 5k at last year... or put another way 30 seconds/mile faster than I ran in October!

3:30 for a marathon seems possible, IMO, if I put in the miles - 8 min/miles for 26.2 miles - not easy but that is a goal I'm putting in my head and plan to work toward. We'll see how it goes.

For a 5k, I just need to put a couple on the schedule and go rf; dbap! and see what I can do. I actually have a couple on the schedule so far but the one in a couple weeks isn't really conducive to that kind of time, IMO - last year we had perfect weather for the first Saturday in January, but it involves hills, tree roots, downed logs, a run through a creek, mud, possibly snow or ice... totally a fun race but not really PR material. 

So, those are the numbers I'm aiming for - sub 20 5k, sub 1:30 HM, sub 3:30 M. We'll see if any of those are attainable.
Given where you currently are I completely agree with this approach. You quite simply don't have sufficient data to goal set right now. You don't know what you're capable of. I think setting a number then training for it is more likely to hold yourself back than anything. So, go for it, my man. Push your limits. Once you've established a base then pressed over the line a couple-few times then you'll have a better idea what you're actually capable of.

 
I agree with you. But for a number of us the "first goal" is simply to be healthier. For me, trying to race fast is a motivator that helps me not be a fat slob on the couch rather than the ultimate goal. With that in mind, the fact that I've gone to the Y and ran on the treadmill or on the indoor track a handful of times in the last few weeks instead of not running at all is a HUGE win. 

I totally agree with you that just "sucking it up" and dealing with the elements is a much better way to go, assuming there isn't risk of injury (i.e. ice). But I'll happily slink my way indoors and still do some work over not doing anything at all. It's far too easy for "not doing anything" to become a habit and not nearly as easy to make "doing work" be the norm when it isn't. 
:goodposting:  I was intentionally careful with my words and a smile crept over my face when I read this so I decided to write this before reading on. **reads on**  This was before your time here and I've brought it up before, but your mentioning 'it's far too easy for "not doing anything" to become a habit' hits home. It's what I did 23 months ago the last time I trained for a spring marathon and my #1 goal is to not repeat that mistake. One day you decide to do nothing, whatever the circumstances, then it sets the table for things to domino. Next thing you know it's been 10 days and you've ran just two times for a grand total of eight miles. This is why I titled my training cycle coming up in a few weeks - 'just move, dammit.' It's my reminder not to repeat that mistake and let winter win again. 

But each one of us - our goals are all different and they are all in a different order. Define yours then the road map to achieving them becomes clearer.

 
None of ice, cold, wind, dark, nor deep snow will keep me inside. I love ice runs, it's a great test of attention and balance. I don't love cold runs, but it isn't going to keep me inside either. Same with wind. And dark. Deep snow runs may not be effective for race training purposes, but I think they're fun. The challenge of bounding through shin high snow, leaping over snow plow created mounds, engaging muscle groups I forgot existed.

But when you start mixing some of those ingredients then stringing multiple days of them together...that's what influences my decision making. I think the only hard line rules I have involve the dark and ice combo, if I have a speed workout scheduled, and how current weather conditions may impact driver's since runners don't have a good success rate vs. motor vehicles. But general winter running rules change every week.

 
I need to run at least 6 times in the next 18 days for 25.1 miles to average 1 run every other day and 100 miles per month for the year. Given that some of you run every day for years at a time and run over 2K miles per year, that's not record setting or anything, but it's pretty amazing for me. 

 
@-OZ-, if I may ask - how was the Cali trip for your ladies?
Great!  Thanks for asking.

There were a few other kids there, most were shy or got tired quick (they are young and have all been through some ####). But my girl gets out there, hams it up, telling Rachel Zoe she loves her glitter pants. Doesn't tire at all. Seriously, this girl has more energy than my boys ever did.  Not her best picture

She'll be doing more of these. 

I'll do my report in a couple weeks. For now, let's say it was great in so many ways. Y'all keep me motivated. 

 
Do those of you that do some trail running wear actually trail running shoes or just "regular" running shoes? I have a pair of solomon speedcross 2 or 3s that I wore in a couple of "tough mudder's" but that was for traction on some of the obstacles more than anything - and I was not really "running" those. Really used them more as cleat substitutes when playing softball and flag football. 

Was thinking about getting those out and/or getting another pair but not sure if I really want or "need" to or if I'm just better off wearing my brooks anyway.

 
Do those of you that do some trail running wear actually trail running shoes or just "regular" running shoes? I have a pair of solomon speedcross 2 or 3s that I wore in a couple of "tough mudder's" but that was for traction on some of the obstacles more than anything - and I was not really "running" those. Really used them more as cleat substitutes when playing softball and flag football. 

Was thinking about getting those out and/or getting another pair but not sure if I really want or "need" to or if I'm just better off wearing my brooks anyway.
For me, I'm often on wet, muddy, root/rock-laden trails.  So my Speedcross 4s are awesome for grip.  Especially on mud.

If your trails are more of the dry & clean variety, then I think any shoe would work.  But going out on my trails with street runners would be suicide.

 
I'm thinking of getting some trail shoes for winter running just for the added grip, support, and water resistance. 
Yeah, if there's more than a cm of fresh snow or two, I run streets in my trail shoes (which are water-resistant).

 
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Need some new trail shoes that are not hella hardcore but offer more grip and support than most my road shoes and also to wear for winter weather stuff too. I wore out a pair of Brooks pure grit 6s and will look for something similar for winter and spring trail fun. 

 
Do those of you that do some trail running wear actually trail running shoes or just "regular" running shoes? I have a pair of solomon speedcross 2 or 3s that I wore in a couple of "tough mudder's" but that was for traction on some of the obstacles more than anything - and I was not really "running" those. Really used them more as cleat substitutes when playing softball and flag football. 

Was thinking about getting those out and/or getting another pair but not sure if I really want or "need" to or if I'm just better off wearing my brooks anyway.
I'm the minority, but I just wear old running shoes. I have yak traks that I slap on the oldest ones in my rotation that year when I anticipate an especially slippery/muddy trek. Also drilled some screws into a pair of shoes I got years ago. Use those as a last resort, mainly if the shoes with yak traks are still wet/mud covered from their last usage. Doesn't usually happen as I stuff them full of old newspaper and put them by a heat vent post-run, but there have been times in which they've just been too soaked and needed some extra tlc to get them right again.

I think I may feel differently about all of that if I did trail runs longer in duration than I do when the conditions are poor. I see how cold, wet feet would be a problem over an extended period of time. But if the conditions are so poor that my feet are in that state then I don't intend to be out there that long that day anyway.

 
2019 Year-end Report

Your goals coming into the year, and were they achieved?

No goals – I would have told anyone that they were crazy if they thought I would be running at any point during the year.

New accomplishments or PRs in 2019:

Since everything is a PR, here are the 3 races I took part in:

Columbus HM (10/20) – 1:51:44

15K (11/17) – 1:12:28

4-Miler (11/28) – 29:15

Your proudest and/or best race (or moment within a race):

To go a little off-script, my second overall run was my best moment of the year...even more so than my first overall run.  I hurt my calf in the first run I attempted and was put on the shelf for 2.5 weeks.  It would have been easy to just say it wasn't meant to be and never try again, but I fortunately found my way back out there.

Race-wise - I think that just experiencing the Columbus HM and everything it is about, was just awe-inspiring.  It being my first race, I was super nervous but the atmosphere of the event was just so surreal and uplifting.  I actually appreciate those moments way more now than I did while they were happening since I was so amped up and nervous/scared of running a distance I had never done before. 

A race or training disappointment during 2019:

Nothing race-wise, but I had a few injuries (fortunately minor) since starting that cost me multiple weeks -- calf, IT band on both sides, plantar fasciitis.  Although they sucked, the disappointment of not being able to get out running reinforced my love for the sport.  Sometimes things need to be taken away to fully appreciate them, I suppose.

Total training volume during 2019:

It will be ~450 miles when all is said and done.

Lesson(s) you’ve learned during the year:

Running is both simple and complicated.  Getting out and running is a great first step but there is so much more to this world than I ever knew.  Form, nutrition, training plans, cold gear, rain gear, gear for the dark, tube socks for keeping your dong warm...so much to take in!  

I have a ton more to learn, but I know that I need to do things the right way and stay healthy -- it is so easy for me to go overboard and keeping things in check is a must.

Best and/or funny memories of other guys’ training or races in 2019:

The camaraderie in this place in unmatched --- I am so glad I found this corner of the FFA that I never even knew existed.  The amount of joy and pain felt for others (training, races, and just life) is a testament to the great people in this thread  :thumbup:   

I also can't believe how excited I get watching other people's splits coming in during races.  Just knowing they put in the work and are out there pushing is something completely worth rooting for.

Memorable moments:

@MAC_32 in all his glory with dum dum in mouth, phone in hand, and wires all over the place

@gianmarco getting paced by @gruecd and almost dying...and how awesome it was for grue to do that

@The Iguana having so much enthusiasm for the marathon, killing it, then losing the data  :kicksrock:

@SteelCurtain killing the Indy marathon while running with bananas -- all I could think about was you doing this and leaving the peels for Iggy

@JShare87 your 5K quote of picking yourself up and reminding yourself who you are was true BMFery

@AAABatteries pooping story

@tri-man 47 your marathon, it's difficulties with the weather and still the honor you showed the event

These were the ones that stuck out over the lat 3 months I've been here...so I mean no disrespect if I missed anyone and I am sure I missed a ton of great RR's from earlier in the year that deserved acknowledgment. 

Goal(s) for 2020:

I had a pretty rough 2018 and beginning of 2019 and I have found running to be a great tool for overall health (physical and mental), happiness, and confidence.  My main goal is to just keep running.  I would like to shoot for 25-30 miles a week, so ~1,250 miles would be my goal with some off weeks built in.  I have a bad habit of going overboard with things, so I need to keep this in check and not lose sight of the other things.  I also want to get in a weekly run with the wife once the weather allows (she's more of a wuss than me when it comes to conditions) -- but I think that will keep us both engaged with running and just good quality time together.

I plan on doing the Columbus HM again and will also look into doing another HM in April.  My BIL/SIL live in Chicago and the SIL wants us to come and do the Soldier Field 10-Mile race in May, which has pretty good odds. 

Race time goals seem tough because I am so new.  I feel like I have progressed well, but I don't know how that trajectory changes with time.  I think it was @MAC_32 that mentioned something similar to Iggy...but I don't want to set a floor or a ceiling since I have no idea where I really am or what I can do.  A 1:35 HM is currently in my head, but we will have to see how that goes (essentially running my last 4 miler pace for the whole thing).  

Oh! #projectcadence - I've been consistently running at 175/176 recently and I would like to get that over 180 in January.

 
I'm thinking of getting some trail shoes for winter running just for the added grip, support, and water resistance. 
That's a solid move.  I won a pair of Saucony trail shoes for winning masters at Ice Age.  Was gonna give them away because I typically only run in New Balance, but I decided to keep them for winter.

 
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Running is both simple and complicated.  Getting out and running is a great first step but there is so much more to this world than I ever knew.  Form, nutrition, training plans, cold gear, rain gear, gear for the dark, tube socks for keeping your dong warm...so much to take in!  
So much this... I said this before but I'll repeat it here... if I would have had half the enthusiasm for the science/math behind running in high school as I have learned to have over the last year... Man! Maybe I could have done some fun things back then! I can only dream of what "could have been" if I had actually run 1200+ miles in a year back then. Instead I have now to look forward to and see what I can do as a 49 year old that I didn't do as an 18 YO!

 
Running is both simple and complicated.  Getting out and running is a great first step but there is so much more to this world than I ever knew.  Form, nutrition, training plans, cold gear, rain gear, gear for the dark, tube socks for keeping your dong warm...so much to take in!
Lube. Don’t forget lube. 

 
Of course you are.
In all seriousness, what's funny about this shtick is how opposite it is from reality.  We are some cheap mofos when it comes to buying stuff in general, especially for running.

I mean, for the first several months when I started running, I just used my phone for Strava a la @MAC_32.  When I decided to use a watch, I shared my wife's Garmin 235 for several months instead of just getting my own.  In fact, the only reason I finally ended up getting one was when we were running the HM together last October and realized it just wasn't gonna work anymore for both of us.

I JUST got my own Tracer light to run in the dark.  Last year?  I just used the one I got for my wife since we rarely ran together.  It's a small and I'd struggle to fit into that thing to go out and run (it always looked like it was about to bust) just so I didn't have to buy another one. 

I only bought the Kinvara 9's last year when they went on sale, loading up on like 4 pairs, and still haven't gotten any 10's until those do.  I wear the same 3 pairs of shorts over and over that I've had since I started running (and they aren't even running shorts). 

For some reason, it seems like I've purchased every single running implement known to man in the last 2 years but that really isn't the case. 

But, the shtick cracks me up every time you do it so......

 
So much this... I said this before but I'll repeat it here... if I would have had half the enthusiasm for the science/math behind running in high school as I have learned to have over the last year... Man! Maybe I could have done some fun things back then! I can only dream of what "could have been" if I had actually run 1200+ miles in a year back then. Instead I have now to look forward to and see what I can do as a 49 year old that I didn't do as an 18 YO!
I hear ya.  About thirty years ago, my 5K PR was 18:08, and that was without all the above knowledge ..and with none of the technology.  (Individual race results were mailed out on postcards a week or two after the event.   :D )  My training was essentially 'old' @MAC_32 training ...basically just go out and run fast.  No thought of building a base; benefiting from 'glue' runs; reaping benefits from a blend of tempo, intervals, and hills.  Crazy.

 
I hurt my calf in the first run I attempted and was put on the shelf for 2.5 weeks.  It would have been easy to just say it wasn't meant to be and never try again, but I fortunately found my way back out there.
Pure gold.

This is why you were so successful this year. You got off your butt and did it. Add in the natural talent and you have big things ahead of you if you stay with it. Congrats on a great year.  :thumbup:

 
I hear ya.  About thirty years ago, my 5K PR was 18:08, and that was without all the above knowledge ..and with none of the technology.  (Individual race results were mailed out pony expressed on postcards a week or two after the event.   :D )  My training was essentially 'old' @MAC_32 training ...basically just go out and run fast.  No thought of building a base; benefiting from 'glue' runs; reaping benefits from a blend of tempo, intervals, and hills.  Crazy.
FYP

 
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Goal(s) for 2020:

Not much, really.  I may run a marathon. 
:lmao: hello ultrarunner!!!

Do those of you that do some trail running wear actually trail running shoes or just "regular" running shoes? I have a pair of solomon speedcross 2 or 3s that I wore in a couple of "tough mudder's" but that was for traction on some of the obstacles more than anything - and I was not really "running" those. Really used them more as cleat substitutes when playing softball and flag football. 

Was thinking about getting those out and/or getting another pair but not sure if I really want or "need" to or if I'm just better off wearing my brooks anyway.
Depends on your trails. Well maintained, hard pack gravel you can get by with normal shoes but I found very early on that true trial shoes give you a grip & confidence when you plant your foot that you won't get from a regular running shoe.

 
Do those of you that do some trail running wear actually trail running shoes or just "regular" running shoes? I have a pair of solomon speedcross 2 or 3s that I wore in a couple of "tough mudder's" but that was for traction on some of the obstacles more than anything - and I was not really "running" those. Really used them more as cleat substitutes when playing softball and flag football. 

Was thinking about getting those out and/or getting another pair but not sure if I really want or "need" to or if I'm just better off wearing my brooks anyway.
I wear these Brooks Cascadia 13's for just about every trail run I do

 
I'm in an OK spot that tomorrow is probably the last competitive race I'll do and I'm really not in good shape if that is the finale.

Oh well. Let's get some anyway. 
I really hope that's not the case.  

But if there is a chance that it is, leave it out there and go get it!

 
I'm in an OK spot that tomorrow is probably the last competitive race I'll do and I'm really not in good shape if that is the finale.

Oh well. Let's get some anyway. 
Good luck!  I hope it’s not the last but we all know now much you’ve gone through over the years.

 

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