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So one of the biggest training mistakes I made last time around was not fueling during long runs. I had very little water, sometimes none, and never more than 3 or 4 chews. I vowed not to do that again, so when I read this as I was leaving the office I leaned back in my chair and 'what the ####' (turns off computer).
Hammy injuries seem slower to heal than other injuries (to me at least). Take it easy and err on the side of 'letting it heal' before going back at it. Good luck!
Yes, this is true as well. Keeping my mileage up in Oct, despite my worsening glute injury, probably made said injury worse.
The one area I expected to benefit was with recovery and early returns indicate I am. My first easy run was too fast. I felt like it was too much effort and the data confirmed that to be the case. I think I've done the last 4 at a more appropriate effort. I was watching it throughout the evening portion of a 2-a-day because I figured an easy run on a 2-a-day would be different than others days (they are), but the other 3 have been just by feel - 9:17 (125), 8:47 (133), 9:01 (128)...hmm, okay - I may be getting this. Although more future runs may need to be 5 miles instead of the patented pbm 6. Not enough time to do 6 lunch miles if I'm near 9 minute pace instead of 8. But maybe my easy runs will just speed up post-winter like they usually do.
The thought of 100+ minutes at a steady pace on a dreadmill makes me very...very punchy. I do 100+ minutes without such issues outdoors about 80-90% of the time and I do 1-2 of those per week.
Can you train for it on a treadmill? Sure. But do you have to train for it all there? Or maybe better put - why do you want to do all your runs there?
This is me. My legs often (now, and back at my peak in Oct) give me more grief than my heart/lungs. Even on my most recent marathon, my legs were so cooked, but cardio still had more left.
But I can watch tv on the treadmill. When I’m running outside, I have nothing. That’s my fear
I don’t necessarily want to do all my runs there. It’s just the practical way for me to train right now. By the time I get home in the evening and have kids in bed, it’s dark outside. Running in the morning isn’t an option for me given my schedule and the kids. I’m not capable of waking up at 5 am to run
Go outside and run (to try it). I think most in this thread would say that running outside, with no TV, is far more engaging than running on the treadmill inside with a TV.
Yup I’m going to give it a shot. I’ll try to do my long runs outside on the weekends (only days that I can practically get outside)
Oh, and get on Strava, if you're not already. Much of the time I'm running, I'm thinking about a segment or how this run is going to contribute to my monthly/weekly/annual goal. It's good motivation.
You’ll have pain to keep you company, maybe some eye candy and some tunes if you want. More outside runs will help.
I really started this journey a little over a year ago. Last January and February I did a lot of runs on the treadmill. Probably started doing runs of 3 or 4 miles, extended them later to 5 and 6 miles - basically up to about an hour on the treadmill. I was fine with it. And I did a lot of them for the same reason - not so much kids, as mine are older, but trying to avoid the dark, the cold, and/or rain. Many of my runs M-F were done in the evenings and on the treadmill.
Are you suggesting that I’m not serious about this? If so, I’m curious why you believe that?
I've started just doing manual entries on strava for treadmill - I record them on my garmin but then delete them from strava and re-add with the info from the treadmill. I have the data in the garmin app if I want/need it but then use strava to keep the mileage totals.
Nope - IIRC I nudged over 200 when I guinea pig'd for a friend of mine's kid's school project, but that was 2013 or thereabouts. Science says it's lower now, but how much lower?
I'm sure I'll find out sometime this year, but given the nature of marathon training it may not be til summer or fall.
He's just have a little fun - you will find that this thread can be a bit addictive. You will show up and say "I can't run outside in the cold and snow" and the next thing you know you will be signed up for a winter marathon!
I'm in the same boat actually. Many years of running with nary a care about HR. I do enough with data during the day that I don't really care too much about the extra numbers. It has made me be more conscious that my slower runs ought to be slower. But I'm also aware that the same advice would suggest to run longer, to which my right leg says 'no way' which then makes me weep inconsolably.
Yeah... I think about that - but I'm ok looking at the HR info in the Garmin app - might regret it later, who knows.
fixed.He's just have a little fun - you will find that this thread can be a bit addictive. You will show up and say "I can't run outside in the cold and snow" and the next thing you know you will be signed up for a winter marathon that starts at midnight!
Welcome aboard!
Ok. I thought I explained that the reason I can’t run outside regularly is for practical reasons. I’m not doing this cold turkey. I have 2 and a half months to train and I think my baseline is ok.He's just have a little fun - you will find that this thread can be a bit addictive. You will show up and say "I can't run outside in the cold and snow" and the next thing you know you will be signed up for a winter marathon!
Welcome aboard!
I can relate with this - my work is centered around data and what to do with it. It's one reason why I was so resistant to adding this to the mix. My mind needs a break from data analysis; not more of it. And I know exactly what I will do once I have access to it.
You've got plenty of time. Do what works for you. I think you will definitely find that if you can do long runs on a Saturday outside, that it will be more enjoyable than 1.5 hours on a treadmill. But if the treadmill is the only/best option, there's not reason you can't make it work for you. I'd definitely get out for at least a few long runs in the wild - there is definitely a difference between running outside and on a treadmill and you will want to feel that difference before race day, IMO.
Headlamp, reflective vest....no reason you can't go outside. And regarding the last point....yes you are.
I think this is vastly different with someone just starting out - it's one thing to say to a vet to just get the equipment and nut-up. It's a completely different thing with someone venturing to uncharted territory. I think they need to be in their comfort zone to maximize potential to be successful. And there isn't anything comfortable about running in the dark at 5 in the morning.
I can do this with my Tom-Tom watch. I have a treadmill setting on it, and then turn it on when I start my treadmill run. The watch keeps my heart rate data, and at the end before I close that workout I can calibrate the watch to match the distance on the treadmill (since they never align).
Yep, I'm sitting here texting friends of mine that live 30 miles away finding out what the treatment of their trails are like in the event my options are too snow covered to effectively long run on Sunday. To the recreational jogger (juxt>hi) that is bat #### crazy. To many in this thread it's just a normal Tuesday.
A warning for @fred_1_15301 - the people in this thread are nuts! Totally inspiring nuts, but sometimes just a little too on the crazy side! They'll challenge you and inspire you and probably rub off a little too much at times. But when you first drop in, it can be a little overwhelming. Just remember, they all mean well and want the best for you!
That’s great! I need to be inspired.
A warning for @fred_1_15301 - the people in this thread are nuts! Totally inspiring nuts, but sometimes just a little too on the crazy side! They'll challenge you and inspire you and probably rub off a little too much at times. But when you first drop in, it can be a little overwhelming. Just remember, they all mean well and want the best for you!
