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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (6 Viewers)
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tri-man 47
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tri-man 47
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I was disappointed the user data being collected didn't include age. I so desired to enter "turdy two" (x 2).
gianmarco
Footballguy
Just wore these shoes for my 3 mile run. Not knee "pain", but I could feel "something" in the same spot while running today despite doing what I could to make sure I landed more on the inside of my foot with some pronation. That wasn't there yesterday at all.
Reading this and seeing what happened today, I wonder if these shoes were the culprit. It seems it was forcing my feet to land differently from the start (likely using different muscles and the subsequent soreness after a couple miles).
I'm going to hang these up at this point and stick to what I know. If I go back to the Kinvara tomorrow and that issue isn't there anymore, then I know this is likely it.
The Iguana
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Turned up the training a notch tonight... not by the run so much as the prep. Ran after dinner, which isn't new. 3 tacos, chips, salsa, bean dip and 2 margaritas, however, makes for hardcore pre-run meal, imo. Mid run regurgitation was on the table but did not occur.
tri-man 47
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ChiefD
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Harris
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Not sure when you were last fitted for running shoes but feet and legs muscles do keep changing throughout your whole life. For example, I have super flat feet and for my first marathon in 2006 I was wearing a Brooks Beast. It was a beast alright. Like running around with concrete blocks for shoes. As I kept running and developing different leg muscles to support my flat feet I've been able to adapt to different shoes that are not as much motion control and more neutral/light stability.gianmarco said:
If you have a running shop you trust nearby, there's nothing wrong with heading over there and getting fitted again for a shoe completely from scratch. If no regular running shop, then a good excuse to visit a couple! Once they're open again I suppose...
If I'm in need of new shoes or a feel something is out of whack, I wait until I'm back in Chicago area and head to Naperville Running Company still to this day. They fitted me for the Saucony Ride ISO II about a year ago and it's been a great shoe. Some of the Chicago area guys on here will probably know the shop. The type of place where if I know a shoe isn't working for me I can go in, explain that I want to be fitted from scratch, talk about my running background and they'll bring out 10 pairs of shoes to start. Find somewhere like that.
May be a bit more expensive for that first pair but well worth the service of finding a good shoe and can then buy online later if on sale, etc.
I don't know the background on the Sauconys giving you pain but my
on shoes.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Just got a link via our wellness group at work to something kind of interesting. This run is a world-wide virtual run with an app. At 11am UTC (7 am Eastern Time), the race starts. 30 minutes later a "virtual catcher car" starts. You run until the "car" passes you. Kind of intrigued. It's on May 3rd - which was supposed to be my HM that was cancelled.
ChiefD
Footballguy
How fast is the car going? Does it start in San Francisco and another car starts in New York? How long does it take to catch Iguana, who is running 7 miles an hour, in Indianapolis?
The Iguana
Footballguy
All good questions... thing moves at a pretty good clip once it gets going. There's a calculator on there. You have like 51 minutes to do a 5K but you have to run about 1:53 HM to "stay alive" and like a 3:04 marathon.
The Iguana
Footballguy
I'm kind of intrigued by the idea - looks like normally there are a ton of live events that all start at the same time as well as the virtual/app event. This year, of course, it has become all 100% app runs...
Juxtatarot
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tri-man 47
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gianmarco
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Juxtatarot
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Harris
Footballguy
Zasada
Footballguy
Zasada
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
Lol, he's out here dropping tempo's 5 days post race while I'm two stepping each stair, using the banister for assistance, wondering how I'm gonna do intervals later today.
Zasada
Footballguy
Yeah this morning's run was
for me. Not because I wanted it to be, but because that's all my legs could muster. @Juxtatarot is some kind of cyborg.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I think @tri-man 47 said this before. If I'm a cyborg, I'm one with a poor maintenance history and lots of parts that need replacing.Yeah this morning's run was
El Floppo
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Alex P Keaton
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Seeing you really fast people complain about aches and pains post-5K makes me feel a lot better. The past few days Mrs APK was like “what the hell is wrong with you? You are fatigued and sore from running a 5K? And it wasn’t even a real, sanctioned 5K?”Yeah this morning's run was
gianmarco
Footballguy
Just a quick update on Mrs. GM....
She was really, really bummed after her 5K. To the point where I felt horrible for getting her involved in this to begin with. I had already texted @gruecd afterward that she wouldn't be joining us for any further events. She was particularly aggravated because she ran the long run 4 days earlier and knows she wasn't in the right shape to run the 5K even though she had an excellent run. I also think she's much more of an endurance runner (she always does better at longer distances) than a short distance runner, just the opposite of me.
Well, I worked that night, came back the next day expecting more gloom and she was already back at it. I saw tabs on the computer browser "workouts to run your best 5K" and "How to run a faster 5K". Then, without prompting, I hear, "and you better find a flat or downhill course for our 10K".
She doesn't like to lose. She doesn't like to fail. It's why she's still beaten me at every race we've done together except for the 5K distance. It's why she went out for a 5 mile run a couple hours after the 5K and got up to 50 miles for the week. It's also why I'm glad she's on our team and why I feel better about getting her involved. Oh, and why she's a pretty cool wife too.
Expect more coming up, #TeamJuxt
She was really, really bummed after her 5K. To the point where I felt horrible for getting her involved in this to begin with. I had already texted @gruecd afterward that she wouldn't be joining us for any further events. She was particularly aggravated because she ran the long run 4 days earlier and knows she wasn't in the right shape to run the 5K even though she had an excellent run. I also think she's much more of an endurance runner (she always does better at longer distances) than a short distance runner, just the opposite of me.
Well, I worked that night, came back the next day expecting more gloom and she was already back at it. I saw tabs on the computer browser "workouts to run your best 5K" and "How to run a faster 5K". Then, without prompting, I hear, "and you better find a flat or downhill course for our 10K".
She doesn't like to lose. She doesn't like to fail. It's why she's still beaten me at every race we've done together except for the 5K distance. It's why she went out for a 5 mile run a couple hours after the 5K and got up to 50 miles for the week. It's also why I'm glad she's on our team and why I feel better about getting her involved. Oh, and why she's a pretty cool wife too.
Expect more coming up, #TeamJuxt
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Dr_Zaius
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Yeah, that's a pet peeve of mine. I try to limit running talk with non-running co-workers, but if I mention I, for example, have a 5K coming up, the typical response is "oh, that will be easy for you".
Not if I'm running as fast as I can...
gianmarco
Footballguy
Being a non-runner up until a couple years ago, I definitely thought running 10 miles at an easy pace would be so much harder than running a fast 5K. Unless you run, you don't get the concept.Yeah, that's a pet peeve of mine. I try to limit running talk with non-running co-workers, but if I mention I, for example, have a 5K coming up, the typical response is "oh, that will be easy for you".
Not if I'm running as fast as I can...
gianmarco
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Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
That reminds me - you mentioned some of the negatives about taking up running later a few days back. As someone who tends to at some times be over-competitive, one of the nice things to me about being a later in life runner is that there's no younger, faster me to compare my times to. At some point as I age I will have to come to grips with slowing down, but for now year over year improvement and new lifetime PRs are still well within reach.
gruecd
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He's the #######' CAPTAIN of Team Sandbagger. What did you expect?You just did 5 miles at 6:10 pace just a few days after your race.
Goal seems soft
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
That was no walk in the park.You just did 5 miles at 6:10 pace just a few days after your race.
Goal seems soft
MAC_32
Footballguy
I don't know if the length of time I devote to race prep and recovery from is unique to me - or others should just do more. But there's a reason I didn't even consider grue's 5K part deux idea. Last weekend's 5K was an 11 day process on the front and back end's. I forced the issue a bit due to being in marathon training for last month's '10K' but that was still just 10 days with no runs > 10 miles. It boggles my mind how anyone is able to effectively race consecutive weekends.
pbm107
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I can be fairly efficient after racing but it takes me a while (over a week) to be able to run fast after a race. I attempted a workout yesterday but quickly bailed when i realized my legs didn't have it.
gianmarco
Footballguy
I was thinking about that after seeing posts here and what not considering I did just that racing that 5K in Atlanta and then the HM. While I still had some left in the end, I'm now sure that's what kept me from keeping up with my wife who pulled away. Probably moreso given the elevation and what it took out of my legs.
The Iguana
Footballguy
I was thinking about this last night when on my run. My legs were finally feeling better, but not totally back to "normal". It was 4.5 days after the 5K. In high school running cross country, we typically had 2 races a week, occasionally 3. The idea of running another fast 5k - even this coming weekend - seems insane! Granted I am 30+ years older now than I was then and all but still.
Actually in line with some of the other thoughts here on this page - running like a 10K or HM is kind of more fun to me than running a 5k. Maybe a miracle happens, but very little chance I am ever breaking my 5K best time from high school - and those were done on less favorable courses than I can choose to run now. But I can still work on setting a new PR in the HM or the marathon since I never ran either distance until the last year and a half or so.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Agreed.
I can do back to back tri's but definitely not running races. The impact on the legs is different. Heart wise I recover quickly. Not so much muscularly.
I was willing to try it though, B 5k race the weekend before the A HM. Might have been a mistake
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Dr_Zaius
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gruecd
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FYPOne man's Team Sandbagger is another man's Team Exceeds Ridiculously Low Expectations
El Floppo
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I'm oppositish.
I got into Tris in my mid 30s, which I guess is later. Was a serious soccer player (top 20 div 1, semi pro) until my mid20s, so running 5m @ 7s was typical...and had to do sub 12:00 2m. Miles and running were in the legs, but I had never run a race until later.
After a few years of Tris, I started banging out my running PRs as part of them, or part of training that included riding first.
Unless I put in those kind of hours and training (weekends were...see you in 4 or 5 hours hun) which ain't happening, I'm not sniffing any prs other than a marathon.
Wow...My legs were always fried after Tris.Agreed.
I can do back to back tri's but definitely not running races. The impact on the legs is different. Heart wise I recover quickly. Not so much muscularly.
I was willing to try it though, B 5k race the weekend before the A HM. Might have been a mistake
-OZ-
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El Floppo
Footballguy
Tbh... I'm thinking more about 1/2s. 5ish hours out there wore me out. I remember the first one I did, walking down stairs almost crippled me. The only IM I ever did (Lake Placid), I had to drive back 5+ hours to the city the next day...agony.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm not doing halves b2b. Oly could do.
My only full was in Maryland, had to drive back to Fayetteville (probably about the same distance) that sucked. I wasn't doing much after that, we went to the beach the next week, running easy on the sand was perfect.
tri-man 47
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I end up being somewhat the opposite! I realize that with age, I need to work harder to loosen up and lengthen the stride, and so racing actually helps to accomplish that. My first couple of runs this week had significant pop to them, and today's tempo work ended up being shorter than planned distance because I pushed the pace too quickly.
My mental math on Tuesday's run: If I can gain just an extra inch on each stride, that's roughly 2-2,200 inches per mile ..or 180 feet ..or 60 yards. 60 yards is about 3.5% of a mile, which is about 15 seconds/mile at a 7:00 pace. In before the "mrs. tri would love an extra inch, too" comment.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I almost gave yesterday's intervals the same amount of Hell as I did to my liver last night.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
#TeamJuxt is all out training. #TeamGrue is all busy wishfully checking my math.gruecd said:
