SFBayDuck
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I would laugh, but I hurt my hip a few weeks ago putting on my shorts.-OZ- said:
Canyons 100K would have been Saturday. Not that I would have had any chance to finish it in the shape I'm in.
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gruecd
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
I'm beginning to think I'm not meant to be running.
- First, the aforementioned getting dressed injury.
- My Fenix watchband is disintegrating, and I duct taped part of it early last week as it was going to take over a week for a replacement (supposed to be here tomorrow). Then one night last week while sleeping as I rolled over my arm went up over my head and apparently the other part of the watchband broke - and my watch fell off my wrist and hit me in the face. That's a fun way to wake up.
- So I fired up the Strava app on my phone on Saturday and decided not to worry about any "training" and just head out with the dog, walking some, running some, and I felt pretty good. Woke up Sunday morning with a pain on the inside of my heel so bad that I could barely walk. There went my plan to repeat Saturday's dog walk/run.
JShare87
Footballguy
tri-man 47
Footballguy
No! (It really just doesn't matter. Hope you're feeling better/OK.)
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@gruecd ...it's essentially a hard 6.2 mile tempo run.
That your team needs to win.
xulf
Footballguy
ChiefD
Footballguy
This has been hard. And I am not sure where to start, except that tonight I hope I gained some clarity.
The day the half marathon was cancelled deflated me. As I'm sure happened to most of you guys as race after race was canceled. It was weird - I was on vacation in Florida trying to keep my training program going. It had been rough for awhile but I was sticking to it. But that was the week all the sheeeeeit hit the fan nationwide with this virus. And I gave in.
I'm the dad. The husband. Protector. And I went into protector mode. Secure my own borders and I gave in to the survival mode. As many of us did. My wife and I changed perspectives - I'm usually the pessimist - her the optimist. And somehow we switched roles. She has been having a hard time. And during this Covid stuff, I've maintained the positive outlook in our house.
Which I am sure is a surprise to you guys, since my history here has been about failure and triumph and failure and triumph. Usually at both extremes. And the constant questioning of myself getting into my own way about my abilities. I've always straddled the line of having just enough success to inspire me but not enough of the mental game to build on it.
And the mental game failed me again. I had given up. And once again I straddled the line of going back to old ChiefD guy and the guy I thought I was. I thought I was stronger than this, but the last couple of months have been a failure. (as a runner)
Then @gruecd chose me for this race series. Somehow he had faith in me, yet I have not put forth the effort necessary for his team. That 5K I ran was so soft - my half marathon training with continued running should have given us the time to win round one.
And now, with a second chance at the 10K, I've dropped the ball again. That run should have rejuvenated me, yet I have given myself an excuse every day since to not run. Sure - I've had a few runs, but nothing of consequence that can help me contribute to the team. I have been wallowing in self-pity, and I have allowed myself to fall back into a pit of previous issues.
Tonight I was out in my garage with my shovels. I was looking out at the moon, and the stars, just listening to some tunes and just thinking through some things. Then I thought of this.
I thought of you guys. I thought of the marathon. I thought of the relay. I thought of grue breaking my cooler. I thought of @gianmarco sending me totally random shtick texts from time to time. I thought of @tri-man 47 traveling halfway across the country rubbing @SFBayDuck's feet on some dark mountain in California. I thought of @Bronys fight with his legs. And @JShare87 fight with himself. And @The Iguana and how he overcame so much to change his lifestyle. And @Juxtatarot just being a machine all the time. And @pbm107 kicking covids ### and still grinding away. And @bushdocda and that crazy effing hair he is sporting at the moment.
All of you. All the guys I cannot mention due to time (and I could sit here all night and I am almost out of beer) and because we are all here for the reason that brings YOU here. Yet, we are all a team in this. Everyone has hardships. Everyone has second thoughts. Everyone has a grind every day. I'm not special in that regard, but I wanted each of you to know (not just the ones I mentioned) you are special to me. I gain power from every one of you.
Tonight I hope that power flipped something. Tomorrow is a new day. I told my wife tonight that it is now time to start to think about me. And my running. I need to get back to a commitment. Right now I'm not sure what that is. How much or how often. But this self pity ends tonight.
I have a half marathon on August 29th. I swore I would never train again in the summer for a race. But I'm gonna train for that one. I'm not failing to meet that starting line and I sure as hell ain't gonna fail meeting that finish line.
The day the half marathon was cancelled deflated me. As I'm sure happened to most of you guys as race after race was canceled. It was weird - I was on vacation in Florida trying to keep my training program going. It had been rough for awhile but I was sticking to it. But that was the week all the sheeeeeit hit the fan nationwide with this virus. And I gave in.
I'm the dad. The husband. Protector. And I went into protector mode. Secure my own borders and I gave in to the survival mode. As many of us did. My wife and I changed perspectives - I'm usually the pessimist - her the optimist. And somehow we switched roles. She has been having a hard time. And during this Covid stuff, I've maintained the positive outlook in our house.
Which I am sure is a surprise to you guys, since my history here has been about failure and triumph and failure and triumph. Usually at both extremes. And the constant questioning of myself getting into my own way about my abilities. I've always straddled the line of having just enough success to inspire me but not enough of the mental game to build on it.
And the mental game failed me again. I had given up. And once again I straddled the line of going back to old ChiefD guy and the guy I thought I was. I thought I was stronger than this, but the last couple of months have been a failure. (as a runner)
Then @gruecd chose me for this race series. Somehow he had faith in me, yet I have not put forth the effort necessary for his team. That 5K I ran was so soft - my half marathon training with continued running should have given us the time to win round one.
And now, with a second chance at the 10K, I've dropped the ball again. That run should have rejuvenated me, yet I have given myself an excuse every day since to not run. Sure - I've had a few runs, but nothing of consequence that can help me contribute to the team. I have been wallowing in self-pity, and I have allowed myself to fall back into a pit of previous issues.
Tonight I was out in my garage with my shovels. I was looking out at the moon, and the stars, just listening to some tunes and just thinking through some things. Then I thought of this.
I thought of you guys. I thought of the marathon. I thought of the relay. I thought of grue breaking my cooler. I thought of @gianmarco sending me totally random shtick texts from time to time. I thought of @tri-man 47 traveling halfway across the country rubbing @SFBayDuck's feet on some dark mountain in California. I thought of @Bronys fight with his legs. And @JShare87 fight with himself. And @The Iguana and how he overcame so much to change his lifestyle. And @Juxtatarot just being a machine all the time. And @pbm107 kicking covids ### and still grinding away. And @bushdocda and that crazy effing hair he is sporting at the moment.
All of you. All the guys I cannot mention due to time (and I could sit here all night and I am almost out of beer) and because we are all here for the reason that brings YOU here. Yet, we are all a team in this. Everyone has hardships. Everyone has second thoughts. Everyone has a grind every day. I'm not special in that regard, but I wanted each of you to know (not just the ones I mentioned) you are special to me. I gain power from every one of you.
Tonight I hope that power flipped something. Tomorrow is a new day. I told my wife tonight that it is now time to start to think about me. And my running. I need to get back to a commitment. Right now I'm not sure what that is. How much or how often. But this self pity ends tonight.
I have a half marathon on August 29th. I swore I would never train again in the summer for a race. But I'm gonna train for that one. I'm not failing to meet that starting line and I sure as hell ain't gonna fail meeting that finish line.
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bushdocda
Footballguy
Not unless that continued running would have made you a sub 15 minute 5ker. My time give team Jux a win by about 8 minutes.
-OZ-
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
Good for you, buddy!
Now less talking and more doing...get your shovel-loving ### out there and run!
gruecd
Footballguy
With summer rapidly approaching, I'm coming to the unfortunate realization that I don't have much time before I need to transition back to morning running. I don't know how you guys do it. Getting out of bed isn't the problem. It's just that my body is so stiff and achy (and my right SI joint/piriformis so irritated) when I get out of bed that I need a couple of hours for everything to loosen up. Got up early this morning with the thought that I'd hop on the Peleton for a quick 20-min spin and then hit the road for my 10 miles, and my body just wasn't having it (even after the ride). Thankfully I've got the flexibility right now to wait and head out in a couple of hours instead, but once it gets hot, I'm really gonna want to start getting out there before sunrise. 
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I don’t. Body isn’t awake and it’s usually more humid here any way. I just head out later and finish up it the dusk. It’s nice feeling the temp drop as your run progresses. I also enjoy the shadows getting longer. Then again you’re a polar beast.With summer rapidly approaching, I'm coming to the unfortunate realization that I don't have much time before I need to transition back to morning running. I don't know how you guys do it. Getting out of bed isn't the problem. It's just that my body is so stiff and achy (and my right SI joint/piriformis so irritated) when I get out of bed that I need a couple of hours for everything to loosen up. Got up early this morning with the thought that I'd hop on the Peleton for a quick 20-min spin and then hit the road for my 10 miles, and my body just wasn't having it (even after the ride). Thankfully I've got the flexibility right now to wait and head out in a couple of hours instead, but once it gets hot, I'm really gonna want to start getting out there before sunrise.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I need about an hour before I go out.With summer rapidly approaching, I'm coming to the unfortunate realization that I don't have much time before I need to transition back to morning running. I don't know how you guys do it. Getting out of bed isn't the problem. It's just that my body is so stiff and achy (and my right SI joint/piriformis so irritated) when I get out of bed that I need a couple of hours for everything to loosen up. Got up early this morning with the thought that I'd hop on the Peleton for a quick 20-min spin and then hit the road for my 10 miles, and my body just wasn't having it (even after the ride). Thankfully I've got the flexibility right now to wait and head out in a couple of hours instead, but once it gets hot, I'm really gonna want to start getting out there before sunrise.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I'm clearly doing the bike trainer wrong. My mph is decent usually, but the wattage to speed ratio is always a lot lower than on the road (Strava estimate for wattage). I assumed the TDF just knows I'm heavy.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Same. My struggle is usually getting the system going before I head out. If I knew there was a portajohn on the route, that would save a lot of time each morning.
gianmarco
Footballguy
@ChiefD, you got this. And thanks for the post.
Not nearly in the same boat, but I'm struggling getting back out there right now too. I was supposed to run yesterday and just watched the hours go by with no interest to do it. By the end of the day, I just got more and more aggravated and never got out. Weeks I've been waiting to be able to run again and now I have no motivation. It sucks.
I'm just angry/frustrated that I finally got into a good routine, was establishing a great base, and was in such a good spot fitness wise and it's completely gotten derailed. Moreover, it didn't really need to be and all at the worst time. What should be week 6 of training is me having to force myself to get out. This is not how I wanted my first marathon training cycle to go and every time I think about it, it really bums me out.
Anyway, my girls were up at like 5:30 this morning making noise upstairs which prompted my wife to get up and see what was going on. As that ended up waking me up, I said "#### it', got out of bed, threw on my shoes, and went out for an early morning run for the first time in I don't know how long. I ran 5 miles for the first time in a month. My HR was complete garbage, though. I have no idea when it'll start coming back but whatever. At least Sunday and today's runs were the first two that have felt anything even close to normal. And luckily, no pain at all. I still keep thinking about how I land on my feet every step, though, which is annoying. And I still have this worry the whole time I'm out there that it's going to flare back up after having it happen so much even though I'm pretty sure I figured it out and it's been great since then (except when I wore the Freedoms). That day is still messing with my head.
Sorry for the ramblings from being frustrated even though I should be thankful and be getting out there with vigor. And you #######s with these stupid low HRs in the 120s while running. I hate you all. Yes, I'm looking at you @Juxtatarot, @gruecd, @bushdocda, @Zasada
Alright, Chief, let's see what we can do.
Not nearly in the same boat, but I'm struggling getting back out there right now too. I was supposed to run yesterday and just watched the hours go by with no interest to do it. By the end of the day, I just got more and more aggravated and never got out. Weeks I've been waiting to be able to run again and now I have no motivation. It sucks.
I'm just angry/frustrated that I finally got into a good routine, was establishing a great base, and was in such a good spot fitness wise and it's completely gotten derailed. Moreover, it didn't really need to be and all at the worst time. What should be week 6 of training is me having to force myself to get out. This is not how I wanted my first marathon training cycle to go and every time I think about it, it really bums me out.
Anyway, my girls were up at like 5:30 this morning making noise upstairs which prompted my wife to get up and see what was going on. As that ended up waking me up, I said "#### it', got out of bed, threw on my shoes, and went out for an early morning run for the first time in I don't know how long. I ran 5 miles for the first time in a month. My HR was complete garbage, though. I have no idea when it'll start coming back but whatever. At least Sunday and today's runs were the first two that have felt anything even close to normal. And luckily, no pain at all. I still keep thinking about how I land on my feet every step, though, which is annoying. And I still have this worry the whole time I'm out there that it's going to flare back up after having it happen so much even though I'm pretty sure I figured it out and it's been great since then (except when I wore the Freedoms). That day is still messing with my head.
Sorry for the ramblings from being frustrated even though I should be thankful and be getting out there with vigor. And you #######s with these stupid low HRs in the 120s while running. I hate you all. Yes, I'm looking at you @Juxtatarot, @gruecd, @bushdocda, @Zasada
Alright, Chief, let's see what we can do.
Zasada
Footballguy
@ChiefD, @gianmarco, you #BMFs got me into this thread, and there's no way I'm letting you out of it now. We're the new(ish) runners here and need to stick together.
@gianmarco, your post from your first HM is what gave me the confidence to run mine. It prepared me in training, and for the mental game that I couldn't appreciate before I actually toed the start line. J&J may or may not happen, but if you can run as successful a first HM as you did (despite you feeling like it was unsuccessful), you can do the same for your full, and two+ additional years of running experience under your belt.
@ChiefD, you've crushed marathons and half marathons. Your post about running the HM a week (two?) after your full, wearing the t-shirt from the full, still makes me laugh. That's total badass. You can totally destroy a summer training cycle, and the heat will make you stronger. So when that late-season HM rolls-around you'll be laughing at all the poor schleps not ready for the weather. You'll relish it, Captain Dan style.
And as far as low HR goes, check out my run today. All it takes is a little heat, and my heart says "#### you" and does what it wants. Really starting to miss the cool mornings of Calgary... but even this morning as I was trailing a river of sweat behind me, I was telling myself that the heat was making me badass. So when the cool weather returns, I'll be that much faster...
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The Iguana
Footballguy
Apparently need to get off my butt and clean the house. Just realized how dusty it has gotten around my desk. Seriously was pretty much bawling my eyes out by the end. This has been hard times and finding ways to get out of the muck and grime of this mess is important. When I get out and run, I love it. Takes my mind off all the other gunk. But it's kind of a challenge to get out there at times - seems to be a recurring theme for a lot of us in the same boat - namely that this is kind of a new-ish hobby.
Just need to keep checking in on each other. Bringing each other along for the ride. Stay active in this thread. The more I do, the harder it is to find bad excuses to skip. And the less I skip, the better my entire frame of mind. I love you, man. You inspire me, along with all the other #BMFs in this thread.
10k test run last night. 1:16 and change so 1-2 min over predicted time. A better course will help that. @SFBayDuck what type of pace have you been posting. 3 weeks to gain some fitness
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Our old friend Nigel use to hit the same portajohn every morning when he was training for the Boston Marathon. I always thought that is funny. Me? I like the luxury of my own throne.
gianmarco
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
I get it, but often the run gets me going.
Maybe I just need to run a lap around the house first. I can hit the trail for a 1km loop, come back to the house and drop...
ChiefD
Footballguy
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
I need to get out there and run but you won't believe this. I can't find my watch. Its in this damn house somewhere. 
I thought that about my charging cord. It was good for thee weeks of being a bum outside of detailing and cleaning out my truck looking for itI need to get out there and run but you won't believe this. I can't find my watch. Its in this damn house somewhere.
bushdocda
Footballguy
Yep I am 30-60 mins before I hit the door. The recent weeks have made it easier to be lazy some mornings and adjust my day a bit so I’ve been mixing more midday runs in or starting at 730 instead of 6. Summer heat will motivate me to get up/out earlier again.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
In all honesty COVID has made my running easier. I'm still going into work but hours have been reduced (and I'm on salary so that doesn't affect income). Plus the commute is a breeze. I have more time to run than ever.
gruecd
Footballguy
It's not often that we quote Lil Wayne around here, but "Drop the World" came on during my run this morning, and it made me think of @ChiefD and @gianmarco after their posts earlier this morning:
Time to channel the frustration and rip #### up, MFers!
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gruecd
Footballguy
And speaking of that run, it's amazing what a rest day will do. Took yesterday off, and today's 10-miler went great. Took me a couple of miles to get loosened up, but ended up averaging 7:38/mile with an AHR of just 134. Pace was sub-6:30 when I finished.
What's funny is that it was only like 50°, but I had my shirt off halfway through the run because it was so damn humid that I was absolutely soaked with sweat.
What's funny is that it was only like 50°, but I had my shirt off halfway through the run because it was so damn humid that I was absolutely soaked with sweat.
Brony
Footballguy
I've usually been a get up and go runner. 10 minutes from being awake to first steps. This had more to do with maximizing sleep than anything else. Now that I don't take the kids to school, my schedule is freed and I'm usually out after a cup of coffee and bathroom doodies.
ChiefD
Footballguy
I would drink about 8 beers and then pour out your soul on a message board.In a total funk. Very little running. Far below average diet. It's to the point where I'm struggling to even get in this thread and stay up to date like I normally do. Any motivational tips for an old, lazy, fat dude?
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Get on Strava.In a total funk. Very little running. Far below average diet. It's to the point where I'm struggling to even get in this thread and stay up to date like I normally do. Any motivational tips for an old, lazy, fat dude?
Zasada
Footballguy
Everyone's different, but reading race reports in this thread always gets me pumped up.In a total funk. Very little running. Far below average diet. It's to the point where I'm struggling to even get in this thread and stay up to date like I normally do. Any motivational tips for an old, lazy, fat dude?
I remember one day I went out for a long run in the mountains, got home, plopped my butt on the couch ready to stay there for the rest of the day, and then read a kick-### @gianmarco post in this thread. Actually got me up off the couch again and back out for an afternoon street run (which I almost never do). Couldn't help myself I was so energized.
So go give @SFBayDuck's blog a read. That will get you pumped for your future Western States ###-kickery, whenever that ends-up being.
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Ditto. The ####ty IL weather hasn't helped, but the combo of work from home + "I hate my boss and don't respect her" has led to extra free time. Hoping to fit a run in at 2pm today. Downside is that I'm not getting up at 6am to just hit the streets right away. My lazy ### needs to get up and go.
Opposite here. Covid has increased my work load as I’m the only one in the office now and everyone else is Netflixing from home
MAC_32
Footballguy
What’s this mean? I guess technically I’m “on Strava” now since the contest began with the 5K. Or are you more specifically referring to something like actively checking what other people are doing on Strava each day and using that as motivation to keep up with the (running) Joneses?Juxtatarot said:
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Commit to a race series where your team will be counting on you. No way you'd let yourself slack off on something like that!SayWhat? said:In a total funk. Very little running. Far below average diet. It's to the point where I'm struggling to even get in this thread and stay up to date like I normally do. Any motivational tips for an old, lazy, fat dude?
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
It was a joke because people had been pestering you to be on Strava for years.
But, to answer the question, it isn't as much about keeping up with the Joneses as it is a feeling of accountability to the group and an increased sense of community.
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Same here. Not a morning person at all and only do morning runs in the winter to avoid running in the dark. I lay everything out the night before and wait until the last possible minute to get all of that sweet, sweet sleep. I believe my record was set one warm morning when I managed to be running 3 minutes after waking up.Brony said:
