Ran a 10k - Official Thread (7 Viewers)

[beer 30]

Yeah I didn't circle back on Hardrock here, but turned out to be a hell of a race.  Dakota Jones, Kilian, and Francois D'Haene ran together for the first 50 miles or so.  Dakota pulled ahead by 10-12 minutes at one point after that but then started to fall off.  Francois and Kilian passed him and ran together for a bit, then Kilian put him away with a new course record. Because of course he did.  

The women's race wasn't really close, Courtney Duwaulter led pretty much from start to finish and set the course record as well.  

And the last finisher finished in 47:57 and change, under three minutes from the cutoff.  Two full days out there between 9,000'-14,000' on some of the gnarliest trails in North America.  

Is Killian just picking and choosing what he does these days to keep himself occupied? When I was flirting with ultra's he was my hero pretty much just dominating everything he was a part of. Seems like he got bored with competition because there wasn't much against him so he started doing stupid #### like climbing Everest for time.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Anyone watching the women's marathon on USA Network?

Pretty good showing for the Americans with 5th, 7th, 8th.  Amazing how much more competitive American women are than the men at the marathon.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Pretty good showing for the Americans with 5th, 7th, 8th.  Amazing how much more competitive American women are than the men at the marathon.

Most amazing was Keira D'Amato who was asked just three weeks ago to join the team (after Molly Seidel backed out) and Keira goes out and runs a 2:23 marathon.  Insane.

 

[tri-man 47]

Most amazing was Keira D'Amato who was asked just three weeks ago to join the team (after Molly Seidel backed out) and Keira goes out and runs a 2:23 marathon.  Insane.

In looking to see if Keira might meet @gruecd's high standards, I was drawn to this picture which shows ideal technique ...strong push-off and leading with the upper leg (not to mention Vaporflys and compression socks!).    

 

[beer 30]

Most amazing was Keira D'Amato who was asked just three weeks ago to join the team (after Molly Seidel backed out) and Keira goes out and runs a 2:23 marathon.  Insane.

Hey I know her! She tells bad dad jokes on Strava! And just like that, her run just came up. She's a beast.

 

[xulf]

So I finally got COVID. I’ve had a sore throat and some other somewhat mild symptoms the last few days and took a test this morning. 
 

Internet seems to say not to exercise with symptoms. I was OK running yesterday. (Saturday too but that was early on with symptoms.) I assume I’d be OK. What did you guys do? I forgot.

I think I took about 5 days off. 

I remember the day I tested positive, that morning I had run and it was brutal trying to get through it.  My HR was off the charts the first couple of runs back at it and it took muuuuuuuuuuch longer to feel "normal" again. 

I agree thay if you have nothing to train for at the moment, I'd not push anything. 

 

[JShare87]

So I finally got COVID. I’ve had a sore throat and some other somewhat mild symptoms the last few days and took a test this morning. 
 

Internet seems to say not to exercise with symptoms. I was OK running yesterday. (Saturday too but that was early on with symptoms.) I assume I’d be OK. What did you guys do? I forgot.

I just read an article in Runner’s World about runners and Covid. It highly recommended athletes take off until about 7 days after all symptoms are gone. I realize that’s probably not reasonable for most of us. Maybe someone smarter than me can weigh in or find the article. Hope you feel better.

 

[gianmarco]

I just read an article in Runner’s World about runners and Covid. It high recommended athletes take off until about 7 days after all symptoms are gone. I realize that’s probably not reasonable for most of us. Maybe someone smarter than me can weigh in or find the article. Hope you feel better.

Makes sense.

 

[lumpy19]

Went to a new Doc today, she thinks I might have a back issue which is presenting itself as groin pain.  In addition to X-rays, blood work and another MRI she prescribed prednisone to reduce inflammation.

During marathon training I got a bad cold that wouldn’t go away, I was prescribed prednisone and ran a 1:45 half marathon training run that was easily my best run this year, kind of came out of nowhere because I had been running in discomfort since early in February. 
 

it would be nice to know what it is but back issues is about last on my list of things that I was hoping to hear.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I just read an article in Runner’s World about runners and Covid. It highly recommended athletes take off until about 7 days after all symptoms are gone. I realize that’s probably not reasonable for most of us. Maybe someone smarter than me can weigh in or find the article. Hope you feel better.

I thumbed through some recent issues but couldn’t find the article. My case was mild and I feel close to fully recovered. From a physical standpoint, I could certainly run without difficulty. Intuitively, waiting any longer doesn’t seem to make much sense. 

 

[Juxtatarot]

Went to a new Doc today, she thinks I might have a back issue which is presenting itself as groin pain.  In addition to X-rays, blood work and another MRI she prescribed prednisone to reduce inflammation.

During marathon training I got a bad cold that wouldn’t go away, I was prescribed prednisone and ran a 1:45 half marathon training run that was easily my best run this year, kind of came out of nowhere because I had been running in discomfort since early in February. 
 

it would be nice to know what it is but back issues is about last on my list of things that I was hoping to hear.

Could the possible back issue be improved by stretching?

Injuries can be such an adventure.

 

[MAC_32]

@lumpy19 I have no idea if this will help, but I have been battling a back issue since winter. Thing is I didn't know it was a back issue until about a month ago.

I think it developed due to several reasons, but the biggest being injuries I sustained during October's marathon - both calves and a groin. My recovery from them was 'successful,' but I am highly confident my technique adjusted to over compensate. The result of that over compensation was not back discomfort though. In reviewing my training logs from this winter I noted that my achilles/calf/groin/abs notes ended in February and were replaced by hamstring/glute then eventually hip. I first noted it on a run March 20 then again April 6 and it really got my attention April 13 (and especially the next day). 

There were ups and downs throughout Jan-Apr, but after 4 weeks (mid April-mid May) of trying to navigate that 'hip problem' I had to shut it down. I mentioned it at the time, but I was noticeably uncomfortable during an easy 3 mile jog and after 5 minutes of sitting my entire body locked up and I couldn't move. Over the next 4 weeks I tried to figure out what the problem was, how I created it, and what I need to do differently to prevent it from happening again. It took those entire 4 weeks (and a couple more once I got moving again) to confirm that it wasn't a hip, glute, sciatic, etc. problem. It was my back. 

Now, every back problem is different. And I'm not going to sell you a bill of goods I can't deliver even in the unlikely scenario yours is in any way similar to mine. I think I've had a relatively successful 6 weeks since I started running again, but I also wrote something similar here late Dec/early Jan then again late March/early April. Like then I'm not setting a target date for a return to normalcy because it depends on what happens between now and that adjustable arbitrary date, but I don't think I'll be able to convince myself I am in the clear before at least October. I need to get back to being comfortable trying a consistent routine then unlike the last 2 times actually successfully do it for 4-8 weeks.

For you all I'm saying is try to go into your professional diagnosis with an optimistic mindset. Even if it is a back injury it may be something you can (relatively quickly!) overcome. They key is knowing what the problem is, how you created it,. and what you need to do differently to minimize the chances of it happening again.

 

[Zasada]

@MAC_32 longest run in quite some time.  How'd it feel?

 

[Zasada]

@MAC_32 longest run in quite some time.  How'd it feel?

ETA:  Sorry should have hit refresh before I posted!  Thanks for the update!

 

[MAC_32]

@MAC_32 longest run in quite some time.  How'd it feel?

Still in that 80some% range, but it's not responding poorly to increased activity nor is it worsening during either. It's just...there. Both strength training and golf has been about the same too. If this sustains then I'll try to settle into 35 mpw again early Aug. Any runs with effort will be a day-to-day and week-to-week thing though.

 

[xulf]

I noticed my weather wasn't being added to my runs in strava.  Turns out that klimat.app changed models in April and only allows for 90 activities at no cost.

Had to shoot the lock off my wallet for the $5 annual fee  

 

[gruecd]

Could the possible back issue be improved by stretching?

What is this “stretching" of which you speak? I'm not familiar.

 

[Juxtatarot]

What is this “stretching" of which you speak? I'm not familiar.

One can only get by with youth and good genes for so long.

 

[bushdocda]

Looks like we’ve got a bike adventure underway that our low key hero is on.

Good luck out there @Harris!

https://www.transcontinental.cc/

I don’t think whomever coined the phrase “it’s like riding a bike” had stuff like that in mind. 

 

[Brony]

Achievement unlocked - bike with jersey wide open 

On long rides, I'll typically wear a cycling jersey so I have pockets for stuff. It zips from belly button to neck. If Ive ever seen anyone rocking the jersey with the zipper down disco style, I'm always thinking "get a load of this guy".  Well yesterday I got caught in a sprinkle. Like running - wet jersey leads to dry nips. I was going to suffer through it, but then I remembered the zipper. Let the world see my luscious V of hair going through my chest pubes. Crisis averted. 

 

[gianmarco]

Achievement unlocked - bike with jersey wide open 

On long rides, I'll typically wear a cycling jersey so I have pockets for stuff. It zips from belly button to neck. If Ive ever seen anyone rocking the jersey with the zipper down disco style, I'm always thinking "get a load of this guy".  Well yesterday I got caught in a sprinkle. Like running - wet jersey leads to dry nips. I was going to suffer through it, but then I remembered the zipper. Let the world see my luscious V of hair going through my chest pubes. Crisis averted. 

True dilemma for me. 

Laugh or love this post. 

 

[bushdocda]

World Championships ending tonight, last few finals on nbc starting in a few mins.

Mens 5k, Womens 800m, mens and womens 4x400 

 

[bushdocda]

Ingrebritsen looking for a W after upset in 1500m. These guys are going to maul each other. 

 

[bushdocda]

American Fisher clips the inner rail in the kick home, that dude had an incredible world champ performance in the 5 and 10 k. Goodness. 

 

[ChiefD]

True dilemma for me. 

Laugh or love this post. 

If you don’t love this I don’t think I know you.

 

[gianmarco]

If you don’t love this I don’t think I know you.

I fixed it, GB. You helped me see the light.

I can picture our hero, tears streaming down from pain, when suddenly the light bulb goes off, the zipper flies down, followed by sudden relief and a glowing smile of triumph. 

It's truly beautiful.

 

[Brony]

I fixed it, GB. You helped me see the light.

I can picture our hero, tears streaming down from pain, when suddenly the light bulb goes off, the zipper flies down, followed by sudden relief and a glowing smile of triumph. 

It's truly beautiful.

It was just like this. I was like Andy Bernard in The Office 5k. Only with a zipper on his shirt. 

 

[gruecd]

Feeling super overwhelmed lately with work and work travel and especially a couple home remodeling projects that we’ve got going on. The remodeling stuff is particularly stressful for me, as I don’t do well (at all) when things are out of order and my routine is disrupted.

Doing my best to deal with it (whatever that means) and to control what’s controllable, and to that effect, I’ve decided to put off R2R2R until next spring, and I’ve more or less given up on any meaningful time goal for Indy, which raises a whole other set of issues for a guy whose identity (and to a large extent, self worth) has been tied for so long to being a “good runner.”

Anyway, that’s where I’m at. Happy Monday. 

 

[gianmarco]

Feeling super overwhelmed lately with work and work travel and especially a couple home remodeling projects that we’ve got going on. The remodeling stuff is particularly stressful for me, as I don’t do well (at all) when things are out of order and my routine is disrupted.

Doing my best to deal with it (whatever that means) and to control what’s controllable, and to that effect, I’ve decided to put off R2R2R until next spring, and I’ve more or less given up on any meaningful time goal for Indy, which raises a whole other set of issues for a guy whose identity (and to a large extent, self worth) has been tied for so long to being a “good runner.”

Anyway, that’s where I’m at. Happy Monday. 

Won't be easy given how long you've been a runner.

But you're now going from being a runner who's a husband/father to being a husband/father who is also a runner. 

Work as hard at that primary role as you did all these years training and the success you'll achieve and enjoy will far outdo any successes you ever had in any race.  And the running will fall into place. 

Use this time with the remodel and ####ty weather to reset, maintain a base, then come back strong in the next 2-3 months when both of those things improve and then see where you end up. 

You got this.

 

[gruecd]

Won't be easy given how long you've been a runner.

But you're now going from being a runner who's a husband/father to being a husband/father who is also a runner. 

Work as hard at that primary role as you did all these years training and the success you'll achieve and enjoy will far outdo any successes you ever had in any race.  And the running will fall into place. 

Use this time with the remodel and ####ty weather to reset, maintain a base, then come back strong in the next 2-3 months when both of those things improve and then see where you end up. 

You got this.

Thanks, GB.  

 

[SteelCurtain]

Feeling super overwhelmed lately with work and work travel and especially a couple home remodeling projects that we’ve got going on. The remodeling stuff is particularly stressful for me, as I don’t do well (at all) when things are out of order and my routine is disrupted.

Doing my best to deal with it (whatever that means) and to control what’s controllable, and to that effect, I’ve decided to put off R2R2R until next spring, and I’ve more or less given up on any meaningful time goal for Indy, which raises a whole other set of issues for a guy whose identity (and to a large extent, self worth) has been tied for so long to being a “good runner.”

Anyway, that’s where I’m at. Happy Monday. 

Dear Grue,

Just for the record -- you don't have to be sub 3 to be a "good runner".

Love,

SteelCurtain (Marathon PR of 3:10)

 

[Ned]

Achievement unlocked - bike with jersey wide open 

On long rides, I'll typically wear a cycling jersey so I have pockets for stuff. It zips from belly button to neck. If Ive ever seen anyone rocking the jersey with the zipper down disco style, I'm always thinking "get a load of this guy".  Well yesterday I got caught in a sprinkle. Like running - wet jersey leads to dry nips. I was going to suffer through it, but then I remembered the zipper. Let the world see my luscious V of hair going through my chest pubes. Crisis averted. 

I feel the same way.  I'll unzip enough to open the collar up to get some air, but I don't go full frontal.  Then Thursday happened...

I'm grinding down a flat and feel something tapping my hip.  I look down and see the zipper gave way and was working itself open from bottom to top (too fat I guess).  I try to no-hand it but that was sketchy, so I stopped and unzipped.  As I'm try to fix it the slider comes off the other side.  Oh ####....

There I am on the side of the road, full spread eagle and no zipper.     I rode the 8 or so miles home on full display.  I'm lucky nobody called animal control on me as I pedaled home with the full sweater flapping in the breeze.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Won't be easy given how long you've been a runner.

But you're now going from being a runner who's a husband/father to being a husband/father who is also a runner. 

Work as hard at that primary role as you did all these years training and the success you'll achieve and enjoy will far outdo any successes you ever had in any race.  And the running will fall into place. 

Use this time with the remodel and ####ty weather to reset, maintain a base, then come back strong in the next 2-3 months when both of those things improve and then see where you end up. 

You got this.

Seriously, @gianmarcois right.  (I hate saying that.) 

Priorities adjust and change over time.  When you are single, its easy to spend tons of time running 80 miles per week and drink beer with your buddies 4 nights a week.

However, marriage, house, work, kids, etc, all start to chip away at the time you have to run.  You do a lot -- from going to a fair amount of sporting events to concerts, etc.  I don't do much of that anymore (I used to have season tickets to Red Sox -- 12 rows behind home plate) and part of it is because I want to be able to train hard for my marathon.  Plus, I generally enjoy being home more than out at a game or whatever. I prefer to spend my discretionary income on races and trips.

I hate to say it - you (and I, as well as many of us) are at the stage where PRs are going to become more difficult.  If you keep searching for an arbitrary time goal, you will become more and more disappointed as you age. 

Find the joy in your exercise routine.  It could be winning your AG in a few local races, or improving your age graded % results, or losing that extra 5 lbs, or beating me on a Peloton workout , etc.) Whatever it is, make it something that brings you joy as well as is good for your body.

For me, I enjoy the journey of seeing what my body can handle during a training block.  The emphasis on one singular race is almost secondary to the journey to get to the start line fit and ready to rock and roll. I also dove headfirst into pacing as I knew my competitive side would eat me alive as I got slower as I aged.  Pacing enables me to be the best damn pacer alive....even if its eventually leading the 5 hour marathon group when I'm 70.

 

[gianmarco]

I also dove headfirst into pacing as I knew my competitive side would eat me alive as I got slower as I aged.  Pacing enables me to be the best damn pacer alive....even if its eventually leading the 5 hour marathon group when I'm 70.

As a pacee, I'd recommend he find another goal to keep him occupied. I say this in the interest of those being paced.

 

[tri-man 47]

I can picture our hero, tears streaming down from pain, when suddenly the light bulb goes off, the zipper flies down, followed by sudden relief and a glowing smile of triumph. 

Go on…

 

[ChiefD]

Can someone let me back into the TeamFFA group? I reactivated my Strava account this morning.

I'm ready to get back onto the grid. Thanks.

 

[SteelCurtain]

Can someone let me back into the TeamFFA group? I reactivated my Strava account this morning.

I'm ready to get back onto the grid. Thanks.

Done!  
 

Great to have you back!

 

[MAC_32]

Feeling super overwhelmed lately with work and work travel and especially a couple home remodeling projects that we’ve got going on. The remodeling stuff is particularly stressful for me, as I don’t do well (at all) when things are out of order and my routine is disrupted.

Doing my best to deal with it (whatever that means) and to control what’s controllable, and to that effect, I’ve decided to put off R2R2R until next spring, and I’ve more or less given up on any meaningful time goal for Indy, which raises a whole other set of issues for a guy whose identity (and to a large extent, self worth) has been tied for so long to being a “good runner.”

Anyway, that’s where I’m at. Happy Monday. 

I get that you've been an endurance runner a lot longer than I have and being successful at it is important because it's part of your identity, but it becoming a complimentary priority was a breath of fresh air for this father/husband/professional.

I had plans to get a 45-60 minute backyard workout in Sunday lunch then a similar length run later in the day. Then the kids wanted to play baseball, so I skipped the first. Then a short trip to a festival in which my wife was volunteering turned into a handful of beers while the kids played with their friends, so I skipped the second. I had plans to do a run over lunch today then that same backyard workout tonight. But the kids blurted out this morning that they want to putt-putt tonight, so now I'm picking one or the other over lunch then having family fun tonight.

When training was a priority I was often either choosing myself or rush to get all that I needed done so I could also fit in the family time, but due to that stress getting everything done I didn't enjoy it as much. There will be a time for training to be a priority again (there is an expiration date on the kids wanting to hang out with mom & dad), but I'm much more fulfilled now than I was this time last year. I may be about 5-10 lbs heavier, quite a bit slower, and hoping to just get to 90% health but I'm happier. I just need to be sure my exercise habits sustain above a certain level - the arbitrary floor I laid out starting in August is 5 hours per week. I try to front load as much as I can, so if the weekend gets away from me it's justified. 

 

[gianmarco]

I get that you've been an endurance runner a lot longer than I have and being successful at it is important because it's part of your identity, but it becoming a complimentary priority was a breath of fresh air for this father/husband/professional.

I had plans to get a 45-60 minute backyard workout in Sunday lunch then a similar length run later in the day. Then the kids wanted to play baseball, so I skipped the first. Then a short trip to a festival in which my wife was volunteering turned into a handful of beers while the kids played with their friends, so I skipped the second. I had plans to do a run over lunch today then that same backyard workout tonight. But the kids blurted out this morning that they want to putt-putt tonight, so now I'm picking one or the other over lunch then having family fun tonight.

When training was a priority I was often either choosing myself or rush to get all that I needed done so I could also fit in the family time, but due to that stress getting everything done I didn't enjoy it as much. There will be a time for training to be a priority again (there is an expiration date on the kids wanting to hang out with mom & dad), but I'm much more fulfilled now than I was this time last year. I may be about 5-10 lbs heavier, quite a bit slower, and hoping to just get to 90% health but I'm happier. I just need to be sure my exercise habits sustain above a certain level - the arbitrary floor I laid out starting in August is 5 hours per week. I try to front load as much as I can, so if the weekend gets away from me it's justified. 

Well said

 

[gianmarco]

Done!  
 

Great to have you back!

How did you not put him through more to get back in? Softie. At a minimum he'd have to do the Truffle Shuffle.

 

[SteelCurtain]

I get that you've been an endurance runner a lot longer than I have and being successful at it is important because it's part of your identity, but it becoming a complimentary priority was a breath of fresh air for this father/husband/professional.

I had plans to get a 45-60 minute backyard workout in Sunday lunch then a similar length run later in the day. Then the kids wanted to play baseball, so I skipped the first. Then a short trip to a festival in which my wife was volunteering turned into a handful of beers while the kids played with their friends, so I skipped the second. I had plans to do a run over lunch today then that same backyard workout tonight. But the kids blurted out this morning that they want to putt-putt tonight, so now I'm picking one or the other over lunch then having family fun tonight.

When training was a priority I was often either choosing myself or rush to get all that I needed done so I could also fit in the family time, but due to that stress getting everything done I didn't enjoy it as much. There will be a time for training to be a priority again (there is an expiration date on the kids wanting to hang out with mom & dad), but I'm much more fulfilled now than I was this time last year. I may be about 5-10 lbs heavier, quite a bit slower, and hoping to just get to 90% health but I'm happier. I just need to be sure my exercise habits sustain above a certain level - the arbitrary floor I laid out starting in August is 5 hours per week. I try to front load as much as I can, so if the weekend gets away from me it's justified. 

Agree 100% with all of this.  It's also the reason why I run early AM most days.  Its the only way I can get my workouts done without impacting my time with my kids as they are asleep when I run.  I found that most times I tried to run in the afternoon/evening, it was derailed either by work, family time, etc. 

To this day, I struggle and slack on key strength and stretching that I should be doing, but just don't have enough time. I do as much as I can to hopefully remain healthy, but its a constant balancing act.

And I front load my harder runs as much as I can because of weather or family obligations that will prevent me from getting my runs in.  So the Tuesday/Thursday hard runs are often done on Monday/Wednesday (except for this week....because of necessary family time.)

 

[pbm107]

Agree 100% with all of this.  It's also the reason why I run early AM most days.  Its the only way

Yep, my time isn’t mine after 7:30AM. During the school year I have to stop back at the house and wake up the kids for school at 6:30.

 

[tri-man 47]

Can someone let me back into the TeamFFA group? I reactivated my Strava account this morning.

I'm ready to get back onto the grid. Thanks.

No.

 

[tri-man 47]

So @Harris is off on the Transcontinental ...what appears to be a six-day bike route across Europe.  Here's the map.  Impressive stuff!!  For his first leg, per Strava, he started at 10:00 pm and did 240 miles over 16 hours, 47 minutes.     That was good enough for 161st place out of 214 solo riders.  I just can't imagine ...

 

[The Iguana]

I get that you've been an endurance runner a lot longer than I have and being successful at it is important because it's part of your identity, but it becoming a complimentary priority was a breath of fresh air for this father/husband/professional.

I had plans to get a 45-60 minute backyard workout in Sunday lunch then a similar length run later in the day. Then the kids wanted to play baseball, so I skipped the first. Then a short trip to a festival in which my wife was volunteering turned into a handful of beers while the kids played with their friends, so I skipped the second. I had plans to do a run over lunch today then that same backyard workout tonight. But the kids blurted out this morning that they want to putt-putt tonight, so now I'm picking one or the other over lunch then having family fun tonight.

When training was a priority I was often either choosing myself or rush to get all that I needed done so I could also fit in the family time, but due to that stress getting everything done I didn't enjoy it as much. There will be a time for training to be a priority again (there is an expiration date on the kids wanting to hang out with mom & dad), but I'm much more fulfilled now than I was this time last year. I may be about 5-10 lbs heavier, quite a bit slower, and hoping to just get to 90% health but I'm happier. I just need to be sure my exercise habits sustain above a certain level - the arbitrary floor I laid out starting in August is 5 hours per week. I try to front load as much as I can, so if the weekend gets away from me it's justified. 

I was just deciding how much I wanted to complain about how things are going when this is basically the first post I see. Thanks for the wise words. I still have zero expectations for what I might be able to do come November. As of now, I'm just trying to get to a point that I can feel confident I will complete it. That is still a ways off but I'm still trying to "fake it until I make it". Or something like that. I can go out and run miles and finish but I'm still way out of shape and a number of pounds too heavy but I'm trying to keep plugging along. 

 

[Ned]

I was in Manhattan for work the past few days.  The number of runners running down the sidewalks was surprising.  All of that stop/starting would drive me bonkers.  Don't know how they do it.

Completely random side note.  It bugged me how many folks were visiting the WTC Memorials and posing/smiling for pics while leaning on the walls with the fallen names.  Just felt disrespectful how it was more of a tourist attraction than anything.

 

[Zasada]

Completely random side note.  It bugged me how many folks were visiting the WTC Memorials and posing/smiling for pics while leaning on the walls with the fallen names.  Just felt disrespectful how it was more of a tourist attraction than anything.

Yeah, when I went to Dachau, there was no desire to pose in front of anything and smile.  I took photos, but more to just remind me of the visit than anything else.  Being there gave me a feeling of duty -- a duty to remember what humanity is capable of, and to prevent it from happening again.

 

[Zasada]

Endorphin Pro 2 for $98, Endorphin Speed 2 for $78, Endorphin Shift 2 for $69.

Note the coupon code required in the link above.

At that price, figure I should give the Shift 2 a try.  Ordered a pair.  Will need to intercept the delivery before my wife sees that I have ordered *another* pair of shoes.

Also, for you Amex cardholders, there is a $20 off $100 offer which stacks with this.  So I got a pair for the wife, bringing the price down to $59/pair.  Shark move?  Order the wife a pair to offset the angst from my order?

 

[SteelCurtain]

Endorphin Pro 2 for $98, Endorphin Speed 2 for $78, Endorphin Shift 2 for $69.

Note the coupon code required in the link above.

At that price, figure I should give the Shift 2 a try.  Ordered a pair.  Will need to intercept the delivery before my wife sees that I have ordered *another* pair of shoes.

Also, for you Amex cardholders, there is a $20 off $100 offer which stacks with this.  So I got a pair for the wife, bringing the price down to $59/pair.  Shark move?  Order the wife a pair to offset the angst from my order?

I can’t buy any more shoes.  I need to wait at least a year.   
 

I think buying the wife a pair of shoes is very very risky.  My wife would see right through my “kindness”.  Please report back once the delivery has been completed.  

 

[bushdocda]

For those who don’t read outside of our little zen garden here, forum host transfer Monday and site will be down….

https://forums.footballguys.com/topic/805276-please-read-big-change-for-the-forum-asking-for-your-grace-forum-offline-81/