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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (3 Viewers)

@xulf , I'm registered for Boston 2026, too!! Game on. :boxing:

My nephew, Paul B, is planning to pursue a cancer-related charity entry so that he can join me. (He was the one that ran with me on the July 4 5K.)

Awesome! I know you have like a 1000 minute buffer and will be there...hoping mine holds up!
 
As promised, something to report. Day 1 of the GAP. Definitely slow mode. Fast, hard tour will be in October.
Up to day 3. 30 mile climb today, though the grade was easy. 150 miles in the books, about 200 to go.

Also, I have come to the realization that the PEDs of my generation are Ibuprofen and Biofreeze. I embrace them.
PSA: Biofreeze is just menthol, so the CVS/Walgreen generics provide the same relief.
Hush you. It's a magic elixir that refreshes and revives. Pretty sure it's growing my hair back, too!
 
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So…. Pulling or straining a hammy and hearing a pop. Sore to walk on or touch or walk.
Suggestions?
I plan on swimming until it feels better.
 
So…. Pulling or straining a hammy and hearing a pop. Sore to walk on or touch or walk.
Suggestions?
I plan on swimming until it feels better.
Realistically, you might be looking at a month of healing. Damaged hammies are no joke. :crying:
That’s ungood. Florida IM is on Nov 1. It will be more important to be healthy than to push an injury.
Swim this morning felt fine, I just made sure not to or much strain on the legs. I’ll probably swim a lot more in the next week.
 
So…. Pulling or straining a hammy and hearing a pop. Sore to walk on or touch or walk.
Suggestions?
I plan on swimming until it feels better.
You know as well as anyone, only way it's going to heal up is resting it which, if you have a race beginning November, might work out. You're going to taper the last two weeks anyhow. Your level of fitness should be about as good as it's going to be so how do you kinda maintain that without 1. causing more damage and 2. maintaining fitness as best as possible.

At a minimum I'd take 4-5 days off to allow it to start healing before you start testing what you can/can't do.
 
So…. Pulling or straining a hammy and hearing a pop. Sore to walk on or touch or walk.
Suggestions?
I plan on swimming until it feels better.
You know as well as anyone, only way it's going to heal up is resting it which, if you have a race beginning November, might work out. You're going to taper the last two weeks anyhow. Your level of fitness should be about as good as it's going to be so how do you kinda maintain that without 1. causing more damage and 2. maintaining fitness as best as possible.

At a minimum I'd take 4-5 days off to allow it to start healing before you start testing what you can/can't do.
Yeah, we also have a century ride September 20 and a duathlon September 27. I can miss those if necessary.
 
So…. Pulling or straining a hammy and hearing a pop. Sore to walk on or touch or walk.
What were the circumstances of the injury? I've been hopeful that the 10k crowd is reasonably well-protected from random bad old man injuries by virtue of our fitness, but I'd be lying if it's not in the back of my mind when I go to play pickleball or something like that.
 
So…. Pulling or straining a hammy and hearing a pop. Sore to walk on or touch or walk.
What were the circumstances of the injury? I've been hopeful that the 10k crowd is reasonably well-protected from random bad old man injuries by virtue of our fitness, but I'd be lying if it's not in the back of my mind when I go to play pickleball or something like that.
I’ve been increasing my running and putting in over 12 hours weekly between the disciplines. Tuesday night was a strong brick - 26 mile ride, 2 mile run. Wednesday morning was intervals. I had just finished my third 4 minute interval, which included a down hill portion. I felt a niggle in my right hip, thought “that’s new, I’ll rest in a few miles” maybe ten steps later my right leg gave out and I found myself doing an involuntary push-up. I stopped the Garmin, stood up and thought about continuing but the hammy felt off. So I walked a few steps and realized quickly that I was not running more.
 
I just registered for Boston and decided to check on Chicago's registration page for 2026. After changing the qualifying times...making them harder by 10 minutes for automatic qualifiers in 2025...they have made it an additional 5 minutes harder for 2026.

I had an auto qualifying time for 2024 at a younger age bracket but went with the Columbus Marathon to try and qualify for Boston. Now, I will have to go back into the lottery unless I pull off a miracle in my October race.

Chicago now has harder qualifications than Boston.

:kicksrock:
Some of the time qualifiers are the same as Boston. The thing about Chicago is there is no buffer to contend with. If you meet the time, you are in. Boston isn't like that.
Yeah. I have a 3:05 buffer for Boston 3:11:55 vs 3:15:00). I'd need <3:10 for Chicago 26 now.
The projection websites are saying you need 5+ minutes. Hopefully they are wrong and you find a way to squeak into Boston in April. Rooting for you to join us!
 
If there's any ultra endurance maniacs in here i thought i would mention the Marji Gesick that takes place in Marquette Michigan. It's primarily a mountain bike race, but also has a few runs involved, the most formidable being the 100 (which is actually closer to 107, but who's counting).

The 100mi run started today at 8am est and they have 48hrs and 30 mins to complete it. My wife and I are involved in putting on the race along with many others from the community aswell. We're all very proud of it and the notoriety it's brought to the area. Registration for 2026 will be in October if anyone is looking for a challenge next year and want to come to a new and beautiful place they may never otherwise see.

 
So…. Pulling or straining a hammy and hearing a pop. Sore to walk on or touch or walk.
What were the circumstances of the injury? I've been hopeful that the 10k crowd is reasonably well-protected from random bad old man injuries by virtue of our fitness, but I'd be lying if it's not in the back of my mind when I go to play pickleball or something like that.
I’ve been increasing my running and putting in over 12 hours weekly between the disciplines. Tuesday night was a strong brick - 26 mile ride, 2 mile run. Wednesday morning was intervals. I had just finished my third 4 minute interval, which included a down hill portion. I felt a niggle in my right hip, thought “that’s new, I’ll rest in a few miles” maybe ten steps later my right leg gave out and I found myself doing an involuntary push-up. I stopped the Garmin, stood up and thought about continuing but the hammy felt off. So I walked a few steps and realized quickly that I was not running more.
A week later, I rode 90 Sunday and have a century ride tomorrow. I haven’t ran on it but I’ve been walking every day And swimming or lifting every morning.
I think It’s actually the piriformis, I’ve never been good at telling the difference but the feeling seems more in line with the priformis. At least the sources I’ve read say I can ride and swim, and even run if I start back slowly.
I was planning on a duathlon next Saturday - 1.8 miles running twice. I think I can do that if I don’t press it too hard but I’ll want to test it before the race. I suppose I could switch to the relay, which I’ve done a couple times before.
But then I also plan to run at Hilton head during fall break - planned runs include a HM and a 20 mile tour of the island. Both of those are more important to me
Than the race next weekend, so I’ll adjust if needed. 6 weeks to IM Florida, not the time to increase an injury.
 
If there's any ultra endurance maniacs in here i thought i would mention the Marji Gesick that takes place in Marquette Michigan. It's primarily a mountain bike race, but also has a few runs involved, the most formidable being the 100 (which is actually closer to 107, but who's counting).

The 100mi run started today at 8am est and they have 48hrs and 30 mins to complete it. My wife and I are involved in putting on the race along with many others from the community aswell. We're all very proud of it and the notoriety it's brought to the area. Registration for 2026 will be in October if anyone is looking for a challenge next year and want to come to a new and beautiful place they may never otherwise see.

My brother is an ultra guy, completed 26/28 runs so far. His goal is a buckle in all 50 states so he's past the halfway point. Doing Arkansas in a couple of weeks then he trains for Hurt in Hawaii. Don't think he has Michigan yet so this may be an option for him.
 
If there's any ultra endurance maniacs in here i thought i would mention the Marji Gesick that takes place in Marquette Michigan. It's primarily a mountain bike race, but also has a few runs involved, the most formidable being the 100 (which is actually closer to 107, but who's counting).

The 100mi run started today at 8am est and they have 48hrs and 30 mins to complete it. My wife and I are involved in putting on the race along with many others from the community aswell. We're all very proud of it and the notoriety it's brought to the area. Registration for 2026 will be in October if anyone is looking for a challenge next year and want to come to a new and beautiful place they may never otherwise see.

My brother is an ultra guy, completed 26/28 runs so far. His goal is a buckle in all 50 states so he's past the halfway point. Doing Arkansas in a couple of weeks then he trains for Hurt in Hawaii. Don't think he has Michigan yet so this may be an option for him.
Buckle for this one is 28hrs. Pass it along to him and we'd love to see him there next year!
 
If there's any ultra endurance maniacs in here i thought i would mention the Marji Gesick that takes place in Marquette Michigan. It's primarily a mountain bike race, but also has a few runs involved, the most formidable being the 100 (which is actually closer to 107, but who's counting).

The 100mi run started today at 8am est and they have 48hrs and 30 mins to complete it. My wife and I are involved in putting on the race along with many others from the community aswell. We're all very proud of it and the notoriety it's brought to the area. Registration for 2026 will be in October if anyone is looking for a challenge next year and want to come to a new and beautiful place they may never otherwise see.

My brother is an ultra guy, completed 26/28 runs so far. His goal is a buckle in all 50 states so he's past the halfway point. Doing Arkansas in a couple of weeks then he trains for Hurt in Hawaii. Don't think he has Michigan yet so this may be an option for him.
Buckle for this one is 28hrs. Pass it along to him and we'd love to see him there next year!
Curious, how hilly and how much elevation we talking about? I ask because 48 hrs is a very generous cutoff. The 28 hr buckle is about right though.
 
If there's any ultra endurance maniacs in here i thought i would mention the Marji Gesick that takes place in Marquette Michigan. It's primarily a mountain bike race, but also has a few runs involved, the most formidable being the 100 (which is actually closer to 107, but who's counting).

The 100mi run started today at 8am est and they have 48hrs and 30 mins to complete it. My wife and I are involved in putting on the race along with many others from the community aswell. We're all very proud of it and the notoriety it's brought to the area. Registration for 2026 will be in October if anyone is looking for a challenge next year and want to come to a new and beautiful place they may never otherwise see.

My brother is an ultra guy, completed 26/28 runs so far. His goal is a buckle in all 50 states so he's past the halfway point. Doing Arkansas in a couple of weeks then he trains for Hurt in Hawaii. Don't think he has Michigan yet so this may be an option for him.
Buckle for this one is 28hrs. Pass it along to him and we'd love to see him there next year!
Curious, how hilly and how much elevation we talking about?
VERY hilly, VERY rooty, VERY rocky. 12k ft of climbing in spurts of mostly say 100ft climbs or less give or take

Here's a blog post from a past runner from 2022.

 
Gotchya, very technical course. If I'm crewing I hate when he does those kinds of courses as that means the aid stations are tucked away off the beaten path as well and I personally am not part billy goat. I prefer a sauna to a natural mud bath.
 
Gotchya, very technical course. If I'm crewing I hate when he does those kinds of courses as that means the aid stations are tucked away off the beaten path as well and I personally am not part billy goat. I prefer a sauna to a natural mud bath.
If he were to do it and you crewed for him and needed the preferred spots and locations for support you can hit me up and I'd be happy to offer way points or any other advice, where the easy parts are and where it gets pretty hairy. There's a few "official" aid stations, but it is represented as a self supported endeavor (there's a ton of community support out there though). Coming ahead of time for a pre race scout is always recommended and a tour of the course could probably be arranged.

And well, if you love saunas this is the place for you. Super high Finnish population and sauna culture is the culture. Just be sure you say it right. It's not saw-nah it's sow-nah.
 
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Looks like mile 52-72 is biyatch, looooong uphill climb. Bet that claims a lot of victims.
I'm not familiar with the UP, but I'm very familiar with this sort of terrain. It's not the climbing that does you in, it's the constant up-and-down, especially on tight / technical trails - looking specifically at the finish. It wears on you both physically and especially mentally, lose focus for 2-3 seconds and next thing you know clipped a root and slid down a small embankment and lord knows what nature you clipped along the way. I found a new to me one recently in which I couldn't help but chuckle that it took me > 14 mins to transverse one of the miles and this was just a ~7 mile workout. I had to think about every step throughout this mile else something unpleasant may happen. I can only imagine trying to do that on hour 20something. Yeeeesh
 
Looks like mile 52-72 is biyatch, looooong uphill climb. Bet that claims a lot of victims.
It's actually not that bad in there. The real monster on this course is the final 20 miles. The hills, roots, rocks are absolutely relentless.

Eta. Not that bad is relative. It's very bad, just not to the level of the last 20mi
:lol:

I swear I wrote what I did before reading this - consider it reaffirmation!
 
Looks like mile 52-72 is biyatch, looooong uphill climb. Bet that claims a lot of victims.
It's actually not that bad in there. The real monster on this course is the final 20 miles. The hills, roots, rocks are absolutely relentless.

Eta. Not that bad is relative. It's very bad, just not to the level of the last 20mi
:lol:

I swear I wrote what I did before reading this - consider it reaffirmation!
Your assessment is spot on though. The distance is hard, the total elevation is hard, but the technical aspect is the real challenge.

We like to think it's the hardest in the Midwest and should give any race in the country a run for it's money. "There's no free trail" meaning up hill or down is one of the mottos and I'll stand by that.
 
Looks like mile 52-72 is biyatch, looooong uphill climb. Bet that claims a lot of victims.
I'm not familiar with the UP, but I'm very familiar with this sort of terrain. It's not the climbing that does you in, it's the constant up-and-down, especially on tight / technical trails - looking specifically at the finish. It wears on you both physically and especially mentally, lose focus for 2-3 seconds and next thing you know clipped a root and slid down a small embankment and lord knows what nature you clipped along the way. I found a new to me one recently in which I couldn't help but chuckle that it took me > 14 mins to transverse one of the miles and this was just a ~7 mile workout. I had to think about every step throughout this mile else something unpleasant may happen. I can only imagine trying to do that on hour 20something. Yeeeesh
It's even funner in the dark at night when you here someone go Whomp! and then get up and say "I'm ok!"
 
It's not the climbing that does you in, it's the constant up-and-down, especially on tight / technical trails - looking specifically at the finish. It wears on you both physically and especially mentally, lose focus for 2-3 seconds and next thing you know clipped a root and slid down a small embankment and lord knows what nature you clipped along the way.
That's what slowly ground me down in my 40 miler. Every muscle in my feet was screaming after hours of never having a flat footfall, and that course was gentler than anything in PA and I'm sure gentler than this UP one.

I did open up the link, but once I saw no 50k option I Noped out of there. I'm pretty sure I could be talked into the right 50k, but nothing beyond that.
 
lose focus for 2-3 seconds and next thing you know clipped a root and slid down a small embankment and lord knows what nature you clipped along the way.
So true. Even my short 25k trail run, on a “mountain” I used to run all the time, 8-10 years ago, was extremely humbling earlier this year. And that’s not close to this.
 
Gotchya, very technical course. If I'm crewing I hate when he does those kinds of courses as that means the aid stations are tucked away off the beaten path as well and I personally am not part billy goat. I prefer a sauna to a natural mud bath.
If he were to do it and you crewed for him and needed the preferred spots and locations for support you can hit me up and I'd be happy to offer way points or any other advice, where the easy parts are and where it gets pretty hairy. There's a few "official" aid stations, but it is represented as a self supported endeavor (there's a ton of community support out there though). Coming ahead of time for a pre race scout is always recommended and a tour of the course could probably be arranged.

And well, if you love saunas this is the place for you. Super high Finnish population and sauna culture is the culture. Just be sure you say it right. It's not saw-nah it's sow-nah.
If you remember hit me up next fall if you need volunteers. My running days are all but over but I would totally dig this.
 
It's not the climbing that does you in, it's the constant up-and-down, especially on tight / technical trails - looking specifically at the finish. It wears on you both physically and especially mentally, lose focus for 2-3 seconds and next thing you know clipped a root and slid down a small embankment and lord knows what nature you clipped along the way.
That's what slowly ground me down in my 40 miler. Every muscle in my feet was screaming after hours of never having a flat footfall, and that course was gentler than anything in PA and I'm sure gentler than this UP one.

I did open up the link, but once I saw no 50k option I Noped out of there. I'm pretty sure I could be talked into the right 50k, but nothing beyond that.
There is a 15mi option (which takes place on the hardest part of the course) for something plenty hard without without being completely insane. 97 people signed up this year and starts at 10am today. Winner last year did it in about 3:15 and the average finishing time is in the 5hr and change range.

For the 100 we have 9 on pace to buckle today. Everyone got really lucky this year and the weather is perfect, a little humid, but 50s at night and a high of 65 today and cloudy. That's going to help a lot with times. The last few years it's been in the mid 80s.
 
Gotchya, very technical course. If I'm crewing I hate when he does those kinds of courses as that means the aid stations are tucked away off the beaten path as well and I personally am not part billy goat. I prefer a sauna to a natural mud bath.
If he were to do it and you crewed for him and needed the preferred spots and locations for support you can hit me up and I'd be happy to offer way points or any other advice, where the easy parts are and where it gets pretty hairy. There's a few "official" aid stations, but it is represented as a self supported endeavor (there's a ton of community support out there though). Coming ahead of time for a pre race scout is always recommended and a tour of the course could probably be arranged.

And well, if you love saunas this is the place for you. Super high Finnish population and sauna culture is the culture. Just be sure you say it right. It's not saw-nah it's sow-nah.
If you remember hit me up next fall if you need volunteers. My running days are all but over but I would totally dig this.
Absolutely :thumbup: . It's a pretty fun event whether it's competing, volunteering, or crewing. I used to compete in the mountain bike event which is some classic tier 2 fun, but taking on more of the set up, crewing, aid station side of it has been just as good in a different way. Beautiful time of year up here too. You can never have enough people helping, watching, hanging out (some of the aid stations get rowdy in the best ways possible). I'll give ya a heads up next year as the time gets closer.

Heading to the start of the 100mi mtb race now, then the 15, home for some football (Go Blue) then to the finish and end the night wrenching bikes and pouring shots at one of our big aid stations which is around 90 miles in for the 100, so lots of runners and riders from sunset and through the night. All the 50mi riders and runners come through there aswell. Most people are delirious by then and we have a great time messing with, encouraging, giving "aid", whatever they need to get through.
 
Last thing I'll mention and I'll stop gumming up the thread is that there is a duathlon option. Roughly 60mi bike to start (easy part of the course) and roughly 40mi run (hard part of the course).
 
Just leaving the start of the "mini" race and we've had 3 finish the 100mi run so far. The women are representing and one is the overall winner. I believe the overall winner also has the fastest time we've ever had at 25.5hrs :eek: (28 for a buckle, cut off is noon) With the weather so good there's high expectations for some great times.

For the mtb race we've never had a woman buckle there either, but 3 are going for it today and i think atleast 1 is going to do it. It's great to see the women kicking *** this year.
 
It's not the climbing that does you in, it's the constant up-and-down, especially on tight / technical trails - looking specifically at the finish. It wears on you both physically and especially mentally, lose focus for 2-3 seconds and next thing you know clipped a root and slid down a small embankment and lord knows what nature you clipped along the way.
That's what slowly ground me down in my 40 miler. Every muscle in my feet was screaming after hours of never having a flat footfall, and that course was gentler than anything in PA and I'm sure gentler than this UP one.

I did open up the link, but once I saw no 50k option I Noped out of there. I'm pretty sure I could be talked into the right 50k, but nothing beyond that.
There is a 15mi option (which takes place on the hardest part of the course) for something plenty hard without without being completely insane. 97 people signed up this year and starts at 10am today. Winner last year did it in about 3:15 and the average finishing time is in the 5hr and change range.
Somehow I didn’t notice that option. That is pretty tempting, especially if @ChiefD and some other Midwest FBGs will be there. I did enjoy a few days in the UP a few years back. Somewhere in my Strava log is a run through Northern Michigan’s campus and its surrounding area.

That said, that’s a looong way out for me, and who knows what my schedule will be like this time next year, so I don’t want to give the impression I’m committing to your cool race.
 
It's not the climbing that does you in, it's the constant up-and-down, especially on tight / technical trails - looking specifically at the finish. It wears on you both physically and especially mentally, lose focus for 2-3 seconds and next thing you know clipped a root and slid down a small embankment and lord knows what nature you clipped along the way.
That's what slowly ground me down in my 40 miler. Every muscle in my feet was screaming after hours of never having a flat footfall, and that course was gentler than anything in PA and I'm sure gentler than this UP one.

I did open up the link, but once I saw no 50k option I Noped out of there. I'm pretty sure I could be talked into the right 50k, but nothing beyond that.
There is a 15mi option (which takes place on the hardest part of the course) for something plenty hard without without being completely insane. 97 people signed up this year and starts at 10am today. Winner last year did it in about 3:15 and the average finishing time is in the 5hr and change range.
Somehow I didn’t notice that option. That is pretty tempting, especially if @ChiefD and some other Midwest FBGs will be there. I did enjoy a few days in the UP a few years back. Somewhere in my Strava log is a run through Northern Michigan’s campus and its surrounding area.

That said, that’s a looong way out for me, and who knows what my schedule will be like this time next year, so I don’t want to give the impression I’m committing to your cool race.
Forsure, a year feels like a decade these days. No expectations of anyone committing to a race a year from now, or at all. There hasn't been a need for a cap on runners like with bikers and I don't think there's any plan for it, so runners have plenty of time.
 
9 buckles for the 100mi runners this year. 2 women 7 men. That's pretty good and the perfect weather seems to be pushing both runners and riders along. People should have some really good times today.

100mi bikers have until 7:30pm and so far the 3 women going for buckles are on pace.
 
The 3 ladies going for buckles in the 100mi mtb race got it done with a few minutes to spare. Was a pretty awesome moment at the finish for them. They were super excited along with everyone else. We had perfect weather and pro women racing, so if it wasn't this year we had doubts it would ever happen. One of the ladies is a YouTuber (Syd and Mackey is the channel) they put out a good video last year and I'm really looking forward to her video this year after they accomplished something special.

We had perfect weather all weekend which has been rare the past few years and had course records fall all over in the buckle categories. 100mi run had 9 buckles (I believe this was a record and the winners 25:30 was definitely a record). 100mi mtb had 26 buckles (this was a record, winning time 9:53 was a record, and the first ever women, 3, buckled) Duathlon had 16 buckles (i believe this along with the winning time, 16:12, were records). Awesome times all around in all categories and people looked to be having a great time. What this will ultimately mean is that it'll need some tweaks if it's getting a little too easy.

Aid station was a blast. Plenty of shots poured, (especially around 10pm when we had a flash storm pop up and it drenched them for about an hour, lots of sad faces coming through, but other than the Duathlon all the buckle competitors had finished) ice cold Hamms were almost as popular as Cokes, bonfire, tunes, cooked grill cheese to order, every sweet or salty snack imaginable. I made the offer that we would give them the finish right here at the aid station if anyone ate a hard boiled egg and chased it with our totally top shelf whiskey, surprisingly no takers.

Last check this morning we had 60 more out there and they have till 8:30am to beat the cutoff. Pulling for them, that's a long time to be running or on a bike to get a DNF. Tomorrow we ride the course and take down the signage and start thinking about next year.

Eta. 1300 give or take competed across all the events, bikers are capped, runners so far have not been. Great turn out for an ultra event like this. DNF rate is typically pretty high, so it'll be interesting to see how this year compares to past years.
 
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No Boston for me :kicksrock:

The cutoff ended up being 4 min 34 sec faster than qualifying times. I was 3 min 5 sec.

Not sure where this leaves me in my running journey. All the qualifying times are getting harder and there is no way for me to keep up with these changes.
 
No Boston for me :kicksrock:

The cutoff ended up being 4 min 34 sec faster than qualifying times. I was 3 min 5 sec.

Not sure where this leaves me in my running journey. All the qualifying times are getting harder and there is no way for me to keep up with these changes.
Ugh. I'm sorry. Heartbreaking.

I know its not any consolation but I think the Boston times will start to level off. They have removed (effective with the 2027 race) the ability to double dip. There were a couple weeks every year where people could run a race and qualify for two years of Boston. They have removed that loop hole.

They have added a "tax" to downhill races over 1500 feet of net elevation loss, so that should temper some BQ's from those races as well.

But yes, Boston is such a draw and marathoning is becoming cool/bucket list thing, so more people are running and running fast.
 
No Boston for me :kicksrock:

The cutoff ended up being 4 min 34 sec faster than qualifying times. I was 3 min 5 sec.

Not sure where this leaves me in my running journey. All the qualifying times are getting harder and there is no way for me to keep up with these changes.
First of all - 😞.

As to the solution, just allow the aging process move you to new AGs. Yes, you’ll be older. But I’ve found the trend line of my marathons has been sloping down as I gain more experience in training for and running the distance.
 
No Boston for me :kicksrock:

The cutoff ended up being 4 min 34 sec faster than qualifying times. I was 3 min 5 sec.

Not sure where this leaves me in my running journey. All the qualifying times are getting harder and there is no way for me to keep up with these changes.
Ugh. I'm sorry. Heartbreaking.

I know its not any consolation but I think the Boston times will start to level off. They have removed (effective with the 2027 race) the ability to double dip. There were a couple weeks every year where people could run a race and qualify for two years of Boston. They have removed that loop hole.

They have added a "tax" to downhill races over 1500 feet of net elevation loss, so that should temper some BQ's from those races as well.

But yes, Boston is such a draw and marathoning is becoming cool/bucket list thing, so more people are running and running fast.

Also it seems that the cutoffs get easier as you get older. Maybe I'm wrong, but it feels like a 3:20 at 50 is easier than a 2:55 at 20.
 

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