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I'd never thought this could happen in a million years. Pathetic..I swear I have more hops than he does at this point..Even for that TD catch he jumped all of 4 inches..

 
What Randy Moss owners are happy with his 1/5/1 performance?

I'm not *UNHAPPY* with it, because any week where you score a TD isn't a wasted week, but it's not like I'm all excited to check the statsheet and just see a score, here. As a Moss owner, I'm not going to be "happy" with him until he puts up a 5/100/1 type day.

 
SSOG said:
As a Moss owner, I'm not going to be "happy" with him until he puts up a 5/100/1 type day.
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He won't see my lineup again until he HAS a day like that. Unless your cupboard at WR is absolutely bare, I would recommend doing likewise. If you can get anywhere close to "value" for him in a trade, do so immediately. I fear that this situation is not going to get better anytime soon.
 
I don't know how many of you saw the game, but he did not look good. At least 1 dropped pass that would have been a huge gain and possibly a TD. There were great passes by Walter at times, and it seems that Moss just wasn't himself. After seeing this, I truly believe that his "5/100/1" type games will be few and far between.

 
phillzphan said:
I don't know how many of you saw the game, but he did not look good. At least 1 dropped pass that would have been a huge gain and possibly a TD. There were great passes by Walter at times, and it seems that Moss just wasn't himself. After seeing this, I truly believe that his "5/100/1" type games will be few and far between.
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As a, "looking to buy Moss low" owner,I am begining to reconsider.I thought for sure this game would have been 100+TD (at least)I don't "know" Moss, but I get the feeling the worse this situation gets, the worse his attitude may get.I would question his drive and motivation down the road. Especially if he is not getting the ball. When he screams for it, Walters will try to force it which will usually be double coverage. Moss will get very frustrated, and lose whatever drive and motivation to do well.I hope I am wrong, but, that is the way I see it.In fact, the main motivation I can see possible for Moss, is if this team is heading down to 0-13, and he doesn't want to be on a 0-16 team.With that said, I still looking to buy :)
 
he was pretty disappointing at the end of last year

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we all know his talent... but i'd be pretty amazed to see him turn it around to becoming "the Moss of old" any time soon
 
RAIDERNATION said:
SSOG said:
As a Moss owner, I'm not going to be "happy" with him until he puts up a 5/100/1 type day.
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He won't see my lineup again until he HAS a day like that. Unless your cupboard at WR is absolutely bare, I would recommend doing likewise. If you can get anywhere close to "value" for him in a trade, do so immediately. I fear that this situation is not going to get better anytime soon.
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How thin would my cupboards have to be.....like say Hines Ward, Randy Moss, Mark Clayton, and Lee Evans thin?
 
Didn't watch the game - I only saw his stat line, but I came to the forum thinking I was going to see that he was injured or something!!!

1 stinking catch for 5 yards against Cleveland???

Luckily I've got some decent other receivers on my team, but I'm pretty much at the point where it's time to dump him for Bernard Berrian or any other receiver that can actually put up decent numbers.

I would look to trade him, but the only thing I'd probably get in return is Jeff George and a bag of pork rinds...

 
The sad part is that Bodden left the game in the second quarter so that left Moss to be covered by the all star duo of Daven Holly and Ralph Brown.

If this is all he can do against a team that is starting it's #4 and #5 cbs, Moss owners need to be very concerned.

 
Shell was giving him opportunity, at least--it seemed every drive in the first half there was a deep pass Moss's way for a jump ball--just Moss never came up with it.

 
Another site has him with 8 targets, so it's not as if they aren't going to him. Interesting article on Moss this morning:

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Moss won't say what's on his mind

Column by Monte Poole

Inside Bay Area

OAKLAND — As Courtney Anderson stood at his cubicle politely answering to the Raiders' latest disaster, star teammate Randy Moss stood within reach, dressing himself and urging Anderson to sprinkle some candor into his comments.

The Raiders, seeking their first win of the season, took an 18-point lead over previously winless Cleveland and gagged it away Sunday at McAfee Coliseum. Taking stock of the collapse that resulted in a 24-21 loss, Anderson spit out platitudes. The tight end took the safest path to career survival.

Who knows? The folks who sign his paycheck might not appreciate honesty.

So Anderson, 25, said the game plan was solid. That the team had made productive use of the bye week and felt "fresh" entering the game.

He said, in essence, the Raiders lost because they didn't make enough plays. True enough.

"We just didn't finish," Anderson said.

Moss, listening to his young teammate, felt compelled to respond. As he buttoned his shirt and reached for his jewelry, he put Anderson on the spot.

"Just tell'em why, tell'emwhy," the veteran said quietly but very audibly.

"Tell'em why we didn't finish the game. Don't be shy."

Anderson stayed with his story, releasing the slightest trace of a smile.

Understand, this was mere seconds after Moss had declined an interview request. Though he opted not to address the game or any other issue, there clearly was plenty on his mind.

The designated star of the offense had caught one pass, a 5-yard touchdown, giving him a three-game total of seven catches, for 84 yards — a good half for Moss when he was in Minnesota. It has been 315 days since he has been a part of a victory. It's conceivable that being a Raider isn't all he imagined.

But Randy's dissatisfaction is palpable, as is that of his teammates. And not just because the team can't win a game.

Or because they were moments removed from losing one easily within their grasp.

There will be legitimate debate about the work of the men in stripes, specifically their visibly errant spotting of a ball on a third-down reception by Ronald Curry in the fourth quarter. The consequences of the poor spot, costing the Raiders a first down, were compounded when Oakland failed on fourth-and-inches.

Some might even quibble with Cleveland's go-ahead touchdown, snagged by Joe Jurevicius as he fell out of the end zone.

The hard truth? The Raiders, motivated by two wretched performances, with two weeks to prepare, farted away an 18-point lead. At home. To Cleveland.

If the losses to San Diego and Baltimore provided no real insight into the character and potential of these Raiders, this loss surely did. Until they find a way to win a game, just one, there can be no truly shocking loss — not to Arizona (Oct. 22) or Houston (Dec. 3) or any opponent on their schedule.

Being caught up in it is eating away at the hardiest professionals.

Veteran defensive lineman Warren Sapp spent the postgame fighting a losing battle to conceal his fury.

"We run for 200 yards and we lose the game," he sighed. "Unheard of."

Linebacker Kirk Morrison bit his lip and lowered his eyes.

"We put in the effort, had a great first half," he said. "I wish I could say ... I'm just going to keep fighting. That's how I am."

Running back LaMont Jordan again pleaded with everyone in the organization to find a mirror, do their part in fixing this horribly broken football team.

Yet Moss' cryptic tone, as well as subtle hints dropped by some of his teammates, can be taken as implication of something unhealthy within the organization. Something poisonous about the culture.

Moss' attempts to prod his teammate did not amount to pointing fingers at any particular player, coach, executive, owner, philosophy, predicament or environment.

What it did was strongly suggest that at least Moss believes the Raiders' problems can be readily identified — as soon as someone is willing enough, bold enough, to step out of the single-file line of decorum.

In other words, as soon as someone can formulate a challenge so constructive and rational and intelligent it can be accepted by all impact members of the organization — from owner Al Davis to the last man on the practice squad.

Someone with enough credibility and job security to bring the kind of dynamic energy once supplied by Rich Gannon, the kind of searing commentary formerly offered by Charles Woodson, the kind of careful analysis typically generated by Tim Brown.

Why not Randy? He has the presence. Maybe he'll say what he believes needs to be said, say it in greater detail than he did on radio a few weeks ago.

If Moss thinks it should be said, and it probably should, who better than him to say it?

Monte Poole can be reached at (510) 208-6461 or by e-mail at mpoole@angnewspapers.com.
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Yeah, it stunk, but a TD is better than nothing and Walter did complete only 9 passes.

He is probably done and officially a bust after this game. He is already moping. There were 2 balls where he simply didn't try to get it and another for a wide open long TD where he beat coverage but ran half speed not even trying to get it. The ball wasn't over thrown by much and would of been a catch I've seen Moss make many times. There are ways to get him easy catches, but the Raiders aren't game planning it.

I think he sees the writing on the wall. He's out of there next year. I was hoping he'd be smart enough to realize that he'll have to produce for him to ever command the bucks he wants. Although, like in FF, there will always be an NFL team to overpay for him I'm sure. Looks like he's more interested in being a juice stand proprietor than an NFL player right now.

 
Judge Smails said:
I'm telling you. It looks like he totally quits on routes, doesn't jump, etc. He's about WR40 right now.
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:goodposting: Watched a lot of the game for Lamont Jordan (dealt Moss for scraps last week) - he is a shell of his former self - no heart whatsoever. Did not fight for balls and ran half heartedly. Looked completely uninterested to me. No way I would even consider starting him over any WR in the top 30 so far.
 
Kiddnets said:
Judge Smails said:
I'm telling you. It looks like he totally quits on routes, doesn't jump, etc. He's about WR40 right now.
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:goodposting: Watched a lot of the game for Lamont Jordan (dealt Moss for scraps last week) - he is a shell of his former self - no heart whatsoever. Did not fight for balls and ran half heartedly. Looked completely uninterested to me.
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He's probably trying to get traded. Let's hope he succeeds.I'd like to see him back in Minny.Either that or standing on the sidelines in street clothes next to Porter. I'd like to think that Al would look at that picture and realize the sorry state of his once-proud franchise, but sadly, that too would be lost on him.
 
RAIDERNATION said:
Kiddnets said:
Judge Smails said:
I'm telling you. It looks like he totally quits on routes, doesn't jump, etc. He's about WR40 right now.
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:goodposting: Watched a lot of the game for Lamont Jordan (dealt Moss for scraps last week) - he is a shell of his former self - no heart whatsoever. Did not fight for balls and ran half heartedly. Looked completely uninterested to me.
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He's probably trying to get traded. Let's hope he succeeds.I'd like to see him back in Minny.Either that or standing on the sidelines in street clothes next to Porter. I'd like to think that Al would look at that picture and realize the sorry state of his once-proud franchise, but sadly, that too would be lost on him.
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Al will never ever admit he was wrong in anything.
 
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