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Steelers | Rashard Mendenhall suspended Tue Dec 11, 06:48 PM

The Pittsburgh Steelers suspended RB Rashard Mendenhall for the Week 15 game Tuesday, Dec. 11, for conduct detrimental to the team. In a corresponding move, RB Baron Batch was promoted to the active roster.

Our view: Per the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, this suspension has to do with Mendenhall not showing up for the Chargers game last week after being told he would not dress. Jonathan Dwyer will continue to be the team's lead back. Mendenhall hits free agency next year and is unlikely to return to Pittsburgh.

 
Hes only two years removed from a decent showing, is anyone hurting enough to pick this guy up and pay him a fraction of what I'm sure he wants? St. Louis if SJAX hits the wire, or maybe Jacksonville - MJD will be owed 5mil next year if they keep him around.

 
He'll be a Falcon this time next year.
Could be a great change of pace with Quiz.
Quiz isn't starter material.
Other way around then? I haven't seen every Falcons game but what I have seen of Quiz has been great. I don't know enough to say he is or isn't, I am especially oblivious of his blocking ability, but I feel like the Falcons are transitioning into a very pass heavy offense if Quiz can block he is a threat in the passing game.
 
He'll be a Falcon this time next year.
Could be a great change of pace with Quiz.
Quiz isn't starter material.
Other way around then? I haven't seen every Falcons game but what I have seen of Quiz has been great. I don't know enough to say he is or isn't, I am especially oblivious of his blocking ability, but I feel like the Falcons are transitioning into a very pass heavy offense if Quiz can block he is a threat in the passing game.
If Mendenhall ever gets his fumbling under control hes easily a better every down back. Quizz is a poor man's ray rice, he will certainly have a role in this offense but I don't ever see him taking over three down responsibilities.
 
He'll be a Falcon this time next year.
Could be a great change of pace with Quiz.
Quiz isn't starter material.
Other way around then? I haven't seen every Falcons game but what I have seen of Quiz has been great. I don't know enough to say he is or isn't, I am especially oblivious of his blocking ability, but I feel like the Falcons are transitioning into a very pass heavy offense if Quiz can block he is a threat in the passing game.
Quizz is significantly better in the passing game than Mendenhall, better outside runner too. Inside running hasn't translated, yet anyway, to the pros. Falcons should ink a between the tackles guy day 2 and bring back Snelling as he can backup both roles. More cost effective than Mendenhall.
 
He'll be a Falcon this time next year.
If they draft a RB on day 2, no.
I dunno, the 49ers had Gore and Hunter... added Brandon Jacobs and still drafted LaMichael James.If they think they need help at RB, then they will invest into it.
I don't think Mendenhall wants to be making any Jacobs-like signings. He thinks he's still a starter, it's why he no-showed when he was deactivated Sunday. If he's signing somewhere he's doing it to play. When Jacobs signed he was clearly option #3 and became option #4/insurance once the 9ers drafted LMJ. It's why he is suspended the rest of the year right now, he was too stupid to see his role when he signed the piece of paper and is now pitching a fit because he's not getting any run.
 
From 2009-2011 Mendenhall averaged 1100 rushing, 190 receiving, 10 TDs and 2 fumbles per year and missed one game. Why would a team not take a "chance" on him?

 
From 2009-2011 Mendenhall averaged 1100 rushing, 190 receiving, 10 TDs and 2 fumbles per year and missed one game. Why would a team not take a "chance" on him?
YPC, already peaked, causing problems on current team that doesn't want him back, that team is a well respected organization around the league, other teams have short memories, looking for alternatives in draft they can control longer and for less $ during their peak years.Lots of reasons.

 
Haters gonna hate. He'll be starting somewhere next year.

There simply aren't that many better backs available in free agency or the draft.

 
Haters gonna hate. He'll be starting somewhere next year. There simply aren't that many better backs available in free agency or the draft.
Lots of similar talents in the draft, can't convince me Mendenhall is better than a day 2 guy and this draft is full of day 2 talents.
 
Haters gonna hate. He'll be starting somewhere next year. There simply aren't that many better backs available in free agency or the draft.
Lots of similar talents in the draft, can't convince me Mendenhall is better than a day 2 guy and this draft is full of day 2 talents.
There might not be a first round RB in this whole draft.
 
Haters gonna hate. He'll be starting somewhere next year. There simply aren't that many better backs available in free agency or the draft.
Lots of similar talents in the draft, can't convince me Mendenhall is better than a day 2 guy and this draft is full of day 2 talents.
There might not be a first round RB in this whole draft.
I agree, but there are a lot of day 2 caliber RB's. I'm thinking more than a half dozen, maybe not 10 but it wouldn't surprise me.
 
Haters gonna hate. He'll be starting somewhere next year. There simply aren't that many better backs available in free agency or the draft.
Lots of similar talents in the draft, can't convince me Mendenhall is better than a day 2 guy and this draft is full of day 2 talents.
There might not be a first round RB in this whole draft.
There isn't a first round RB in the draft, the only one that would have had a shot was Lattimore and no way anyone drafts him before round 3 now
 
Wow, surprised to see all the love for Mendenhall, who's as pedestrian as they come and, oh by the way, solidified himself this week as a self-absorbed ### hole.

 
Haters gonna hate. He'll be starting somewhere next year. There simply aren't that many better backs available in free agency or the draft.
hes certainly good enough to start. but there is not that much difference between nfl starter and unemployed. i doubt he gets much workload next yr.
 
Starting to think Detroit.

Best's career is possibly over. Kevin Smith was washed up four years ago and Leshoure isn't panning out.

 
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'GordonGekko said:
Mendenhall is in the wrong here. You signed the contract. Suit up or don't suit up. Keep your mouth shut, take your free agency when it happens and then try to stick it to the franchise later.
Pretty big supporter of Mendenhall as being talented enough to land another starting gig, but I agree with this.IYO how much will this hurt his chances with another team? Assuming your read on the situation is correct, will other teams be willing to see it the same way -- i.e. that Mendenhall might be a guy in a bad situation and not handling it properly rather than an out and out bad egg.
 
'GordonGekko said:
Wow, surprised to see all the love for Mendenhall, who's as pedestrian as they come and, oh by the way, solidified himself this week as a self-absorbed ### hole.
Think it's a little more complicated than that.

The general scuttlebutt I'm hearing informally is that there is a clear split in the Steelers front office. Word is the GM, Colbert, essentially promised Mendenhall that if he was healthy, he would start. Period. But that Omar Khan, one of the top front office prospects in the league, mostly for his understanding of cap management, has the ear of Dan Rooney and pushed to have Mendenhall cycle out of the organization. Like many teams that disproportionately pay their linebacking corps ( you can see a clear split in the league with teams that philosophically will or will not), the money has to come from somewhere and someplace against the cap.

Generally speaking, NFL franchises are now a little leery of capologists but with little actual football/personnel background. The reason so many elevate is they operate like "Henry Hills", their role with helping to decide who gets paid what generally allows them to shift across the various sections of the standard NFL front office.

Part of the appeal of Khan is he's seen as a package unit with Bill Cowher. Cowher wants to coach, but like most veteran coaches, wants final say on personnel but have others take care of the mundane and unpleasant contract/money issues. Outside of the Steelers, Khan would simply be another capologist. Within the Steelers, who won't take Cowher back as it's simply time to move on, Khan would stand a better chance of garnering full personnel control. Cowher wants Khan to to be his spear thrower. Khan wants to be his own GM and find a coach to be his spearthrower.

Mendenhall is a young guy and has a reason to be upset, but he's handling it the wrong way. The Rooneys are one of the most powerful families in the country, not just within the NFL. Crossing a Rooney isn't a good idea for your general health.

Over the years on this board, I've talked about organizational stability and unit integrity within every specific facet of the franchise. This is when you start having problems with an organization - Not everyone's ships are sailing in the same direction. The focus is less on winning the conflict with the enemy teams but winning a zero sum game within your own franchise.

Mendenhall, like a lot of players, got caught in a front office power struggle. But he should have just shut his mouth, be thankful that hes still only 25 and was young enough to start in the league that even signing under the old CBA won't hinder him trying to get one more decent sized contract.

Khan is a case where he will never be an autonomous GM no matter what anyone says. Barring political correctness, IMHO, he's too young and too dark for the old guard league to accept him into their fraternity of GMs. This is a case where the Rooney Rule for executives might make a difference ( You there Borbeley? How's the Amy Trask for GM campaign going?) except the Rooney Rule doesn't actually care about Omar Khan. The Rooney Rule IMHO doesn't want to end any potential racial bias, it simply wants to shift it a certain way for a certain group under threat of adversarial legalism and bad PR. ( Did you see Tony Dungy lobby for Norm Chow to get the Hawaii job, Borbeley? Neither did I)

Mendenhall is in the wrong here. You signed the contract. Suit up or don't suit up. Keep your mouth shut, take your free agency when it happens and then try to stick it to the franchise later. And you don't oppose the Rooney's. The Western media isn't going to take your side against the Rooney family. The truth means little in the NFL power structure, just the perception of it.

This is not just a story about a wayward running back. That's just the surface. This is the story of a franchise unable to overcome it's dysfunction regarding unit morale and unit stability within it's ranks.
Sorry don't buy it. Omar Khan has nothing to do with Mendenhall not playing. Mendenhall was given the shot to start when healthy twice this season. The first time he played reasonably well and started the next game and injured his achilles. When he regained his health he again started but fumbled twice on 4 carries. Had Mendenhall run for 120 yards and a couple TDs do you think he would be riding the bench because Khan "wants him cycled out of the organization"? Clearly he is in Tomlin's dog house and the reason has been his lack of performance on the field.

 
'wdcrob said:
'Godsbrother said:
fumbled twice on 4 carries
Obviously this hurt him, but do you really believe Mendenhall would be inactive for Baron Batch if the Steelers hadn't already decided to cut bait?
Mendenhall has been deactivated since the Cleveland game where he fumbled twice. Tomlin explained the deactivation was a result of injuries at other positions and the fact that Mendenhall had not been producing and does not contribute on special teams. Tomlin said that Mendenhall's value was as a feature back and if he was not in that role then he would likely remain inactive on game day unless Dwyer or Redman were injured.Mendenhall did not react to this well and did not report to Heinz Field on Sunday which is a team rule, regardless if you expect to be deactivated or not. This is why he is suspended and Barron Batch was promoted from the practice squad.Mendenhall is almost certainly done in Pittsburgh after this season but then again so is Mike Wallace. You don't see him inactive though...
 
'wdcrob said:
'Godsbrother said:
fumbled twice on 4 carries
Obviously this hurt him, but do you really believe Mendenhall would be inactive for Baron Batch if the Steelers hadn't already decided to cut bait?
Mendenhall has been deactivated since the Cleveland game where he fumbled twice. Tomlin explained the deactivation was a result of injuries at other positions and the fact that Mendenhall had not been producing and does not contribute on special teams. Tomlin said that Mendenhall's value was as a feature back and if he was not in that role then he would likely remain inactive on game day unless Dwyer or Redman were injured.Mendenhall did not react to this well and did not report to Heinz Field on Sunday which is a team rule, regardless if you expect to be deactivated or not. This is why he is suspended and Barron Batch was promoted from the practice squad.Mendenhall is almost certainly done in Pittsburgh after this season but then again so is Mike Wallace. You don't see him inactive though...
I don't know. Something doesn't sit right with me on this one. Mendenhall is clearly not in their future plans, but I still think he's their most talented back. If he's healthy enough to play, he should not only be active, but be given a heavy workload. I could be wrong, but I don't think Dwyer is anything special. I think his role should be as a backup, not a starter.
 
I think there's clearly more going on behind the scenes here than any of us are aware of - but there's just no excuse for not showing up on gameday even if you're inactive. The fumbling issue undoubtedly is a very sensitive issue for both the Steelers and Mendy as his Super Bowl fumble against the Packers was basically the turning point in that game. Things like that just don't go away - especially if you return from injury and put 2 of the first 4 or whatever it was on the carpet. The Steelers have obviously lost trust in the player and the person at this point. It'll be very interesting to see what happens with him next year as someone will give him a chance to compete for carries. Meanwhile, Johnathan Dwyer has the chance of a lifetime and he's still a tub of goo. :popcorn:

 
'wdcrob said:
'Godsbrother said:
fumbled twice on 4 carries
Obviously this hurt him, but do you really believe Mendenhall would be inactive for Baron Batch if the Steelers hadn't already decided to cut bait?
Mendenhall has been deactivated since the Cleveland game where he fumbled twice. Tomlin explained the deactivation was a result of injuries at other positions and the fact that Mendenhall had not been producing and does not contribute on special teams. Tomlin said that Mendenhall's value was as a feature back and if he was not in that role then he would likely remain inactive on game day unless Dwyer or Redman were injured.Mendenhall did not react to this well and did not report to Heinz Field on Sunday which is a team rule, regardless if you expect to be deactivated or not. This is why he is suspended and Barron Batch was promoted from the practice squad.Mendenhall is almost certainly done in Pittsburgh after this season but then again so is Mike Wallace. You don't see him inactive though...
I don't know. Something doesn't sit right with me on this one. Mendenhall is clearly not in their future plans, but I still think he's their most talented back. If he's healthy enough to play, he should not only be active, but be given a heavy workload. I could be wrong, but I don't think Dwyer is anything special. I think his role should be as a backup, not a starter.
Maybe but I think Tomlin has had it with Mendenhall's injuries, fumbling, 3.3 YPC and attitude. This isn't the first time he's been in Tomlin's doghouse either.
 
'MAC_32 said:
'EBF said:
Haters gonna hate. He'll be starting somewhere next year. There simply aren't that many better backs available in free agency or the draft.
Lots of similar talents in the draft, can't convince me Mendenhall is better than a day 2 guy and this draft is full of day 2 talents.
So an organization that you praised as being so well respected drafts Mendenhall in round 1 of a draft that was loaded with RB talent, but he isn't as talented as a Day 2 draft pick in what is considered a weaker draft?
 
'MAC_32 said:
'EBF said:
Haters gonna hate. He'll be starting somewhere next year. There simply aren't that many better backs available in free agency or the draft.
Lots of similar talents in the draft, can't convince me Mendenhall is better than a day 2 guy and this draft is full of day 2 talents.
So an organization that you praised as being so well respected drafts Mendenhall in round 1 of a draft that was loaded with RB talent, but he isn't as talented as a Day 2 draft pick in what is considered a weaker draft?
Remember this is the same team that drafted Limas Sweed in Round 2. Pretty much every organization has their draft day horror stories. I don't think Mendenhall was necessarily a bad pick when he was drafted but that was 4 years ago and injuries, fumbling and attitudes have changed the situation quite a bit.
 
'MAC_32 said:
'EBF said:
Haters gonna hate. He'll be starting somewhere next year. There simply aren't that many better backs available in free agency or the draft.
Lots of similar talents in the draft, can't convince me Mendenhall is better than a day 2 guy and this draft is full of day 2 talents.
So an organization that you praised as being so well respected drafts Mendenhall in round 1 of a draft that was loaded with RB talent, but he isn't as talented as a Day 2 draft pick in what is considered a weaker draft?
Remember this is the same team that drafted Limas Sweed in Round 2. Pretty much every organization has their draft day horror stories. I don't think Mendenhall was necessarily a bad pick when he was drafted but that was 4 years ago and injuries, fumbling and attitudes have changed the situation quite a bit.
Sure the Steelers have their misses - but they have a pretty good track record. Mendenhall has shown more than enough ability to be a feature back in this league. The point I was trying to make though is to lump him in with a bunch of prospects (Day 2 RBs in this draft) that may never amount to anything in the NFL is a little disingenuous.
 
'MAC_32 said:
'EBF said:
Haters gonna hate. He'll be starting somewhere next year. There simply aren't that many better backs available in free agency or the draft.
Lots of similar talents in the draft, can't convince me Mendenhall is better than a day 2 guy and this draft is full of day 2 talents.
So an organization that you praised as being so well respected drafts Mendenhall in round 1 of a draft that was loaded with RB talent, but he isn't as talented as a Day 2 draft pick in what is considered a weaker draft?
Remember this is the same team that drafted Limas Sweed in Round 2. Pretty much every organization has their draft day horror stories. I don't think Mendenhall was necessarily a bad pick when he was drafted but that was 4 years ago and injuries, fumbling and attitudes have changed the situation quite a bit.
Sure the Steelers have their misses - but they have a pretty good track record. Mendenhall has shown more than enough ability to be a feature back in this league. The point I was trying to make though is to lump him in with a bunch of prospects (Day 2 RBs in this draft) that may never amount to anything in the NFL is a little disingenuous.
There are lots of good players available in day 2. RB's best years are usually somewhere between 1 and 5. Day 2 picks will be cheaper than Mendenhall and likely under team control for more years. The Steelers have cap issues already.Mendenhall has less risk in that they know what they're getting, but he may also be past his production window. Need to do your homework and roll the dice on cheaper, fresh legs and hope to find someone that did what Mendenhall has done for less $. Maybe he won't come with fumble problems.
 
Listening to Stan Savran now who is interviewing Steeler beat reporter Gerry Dulac.

Dulac says he was told last week that the coaching staff have been trying to get Mendenhall's head back into the game for several weeks because they feel he is most talented back but he hasn't responded in practice. The fumbles really ticked off the Steelers coaching staff because they felt they were "lazy fumbles" and this after they were stressing all week the need to protect the ball because they were down to their 3rd string QB.

His deactivation was both a function of injuries in other areas and also to send him a message. When he blew off the game last week apparently it was the last straw so they suspended him for one game (although they could have suspended him for 4 games).

Dulac says the team really wanted him to return as the feature back but it is unlikely he'll be active again this season unless Redman or Dwyer are injured.

 
Listening to Stan Savran now who is interviewing Steeler beat reporter Gerry Dulac. Dulac says he was told last week that the coaching staff have been trying to get Mendenhall's head back into the game for several weeks because they feel he is most talented back but he hasn't responded in practice. The fumbles really ticked off the Steelers coaching staff because they felt they were "lazy fumbles" and this after they were stressing all week the need to protect the ball because they were down to their 3rd string QB. His deactivation was both a function of injuries in other areas and also to send him a message. When he blew off the game last week apparently it was the last straw so they suspended him for one game (although they could have suspended him for 4 games). Dulac says the team really wanted him to return as the feature back but it is unlikely he'll be active again this season unless Redman or Dwyer are injured.
Funny that they let Wallace play through his lack of effort/bad attitude.
 
Listening to Stan Savran now who is interviewing Steeler beat reporter Gerry Dulac. Dulac says he was told last week that the coaching staff have been trying to get Mendenhall's head back into the game for several weeks because they feel he is most talented back but he hasn't responded in practice. The fumbles really ticked off the Steelers coaching staff because they felt they were "lazy fumbles" and this after they were stressing all week the need to protect the ball because they were down to their 3rd string QB. His deactivation was both a function of injuries in other areas and also to send him a message. When he blew off the game last week apparently it was the last straw so they suspended him for one game (although they could have suspended him for 4 games). Dulac says the team really wanted him to return as the feature back but it is unlikely he'll be active again this season unless Redman or Dwyer are injured.
Funny that they let Wallace play through his lack of effort/bad attitude.
Pretty much what I said in post #35. Even with the drops Wallace has been productive and that's what it all comes down to. I can understand Mendenhall's frustration but blowing off Sunday's game was really stupid though.
 
'EBF said:
Haters gonna hate. He'll be starting somewhere next year. There simply aren't that many better backs available in free agency or the draft.
Simply a good callMendenhall is a good kid....I remember his Pre Draft bio, being a good Student, a good citizen, but he has not endeared himself to Pittsburgh whatsoever. Not all his fault.....but some of it is.He's still young and still naive.He made those comments about America should be ashamed celebrating Bin Laden's death......and Pittsburgh brass had to do damage control.I am sure there are other things that have gone on that none of us know, but he has talent, and he is plenty young still.The success that he has had have been with street free agents as Offensive Lineman. Only in this recent draft has Pittsburgh finally addressed getting an NFL calibre offensive line together with Adams and Decastro.Mendy has been a 1000 yard rusher with garbage at the O-Line.....and he's not truly healthy coming off an ACL. Are people forgetting the atrocious lines and that he's coming off a tough injury-pretty much so it appears.The fumbling can be corrected.And the Super Bowl fumble---mathews was three feet into the backfield....Mendenhall took what, one step with the ball? Little reaction time, but it's on the biggest stage, and blame is gonna be cast around.Ted Thompson-if there was ever a time for you to jump into free agency for a bargain, this would be it. Mendenhall will be over a year removed from the ACL, 25/26, and he needs a fresh start. Should be a cheap acquisition for much needed help atthe rb spot.
 
I'm in the very small minority of Steeler fans who hates to see this. Mendenhall has by far the most talent on the roster at the RB position. I'd love for him to get another chance with the team. If not, which is looking highly likely, they must find his replacement somewhere, and I'm afraid that will cost more $. With no RB in the draft worth (arguably) a first rounder, they will have to go FA. Plus, they need to use the draft to upgrade other positions. Their current stable of RB do not look like every down starter types to me. Dwyer perhaps, if he gets in better shape, which he hasn't done thus far (even after given the starters job).

Sure Mendy had a bad fumble in a big game. Many RB's do. Had it not been for "the tackle" by Ben, the Steelers never would have been in that years SB and Bettis would have been looked upon differently among Steeler fans as well. Fumbles happen. He plays in a couple games this year, is rusty, and fumbles (twice) during the Browns game. Well, so did the rest of the RB's on the roster. Before that SB fumble, he was not known to be a fumbler whatsoever. At least, not how many are making it seem.

 
Mendenhall was drafted in the 1st because of measurables (remember, he was projected top 15-20 and slid to the end of round 1 where the Steelers said they couldn't pass on him -- the same thing happened the very next round with Limas Sweed). He never developed into more than what he was in college -- a guy with good size, speed and wiggle. He never played as big as he was, preferring to #####foot behind the line and that silly spin move of his that caused him to fumble as often as it caused him to break a tackle. He is a very intelligent and introverted young man who has never endeared himself to the coaching staff, fans or teammates from what I can tell. If things stay the same for him, I see him being given a shot at a starting job or at least a RBBC, but eventually being phased out there too. His only hope is to have a BIG chip on his shoulder because of this, and run with a little anger in the future. I'm a Steeler fan, and sold him this offseason for a very old, beaten up Steven Jackson because I thought Mendenhall's best days were past following the knee injury. It gave the team an opportunity to see what another RB or two would look like, and that they would probably see that he could be upgraded or at the least, adequately replaced by someone younger and cheaper.

 
He never played as big as he was
You're right that Mendenhall doesn't play anywhere near as big as his actual size -- I've always thought he was a space back in a big body. And because he plays like a smaller back and has good vision he was always looking for holes instead of blindly slamming it into wherever the play was called -- like Redman. It's not a good mix when there are no holes.Why the Steelers insisted that he play like Cedric Benson instead of mixing in some stuff where he would be most effective -- draws, screens and wide runs -- is a mystery.
 

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