Ray Rice Arrested In Atlantic City After Physical Altercation (1 Viewer)

[MoveToSkypager]

We've seen one video and we have some of the Police report. We know both parties hit each other, we know the fiance was knocked unconscious due to Rice striking her with his hand. The thing I can't figure out is where is this witness? It's assumed this altercation took place on the elevator, but nobody else gets off the elevator?

You've never seen Mission Impossible? The witness went through the maintenance hatch at the top of the elevator.

 

[MattFancy]

Sports talk radio in Baltimore last week:

"I don't condone hitting women, but..."

"We haven't seen the whole tape, what she did to provoke him."

"It was 2am. What do you think happens at that time of the night?"

"You don't EVER spit on someone."

Sounds about for Baltimore fans

 

[voiceofunreason]

Sports talk radio in Baltimore last week:

"I don't condone hitting women, but..."

"We haven't seen the whole tape, what she did to provoke him."

"It was 2am. What do you think happens at that time of the night?"

"You don't EVER spit on someone."

Sounds about for Baltimore fans

Bodymore Murdaland

 

[KellysHeroes]

http://thegrio.com/2014/02/21/will-the-ray-rice-controversy-be-a-wake-up-call-for-the-nfl-on-domestic-violence/

 

[fatness]

SI's Peter King says Ray Rice will "likely face team or league discipline" if he did indeed lay a hand on fiancee Janay Palmer.

rotoworld

And the Ravens will wait on any action until they see what the league does, if anything.

“As a league, we have a conduct policy,” Newsome said. “As a member of the league, we will follow that from A to Z. Up until we get to that point, he falls under the personal conduct policy with the league, and we will allow the league to take its position before we have to take any.”

 

[Da Guru]

SI's Peter King says Ray Rice will "likely face team or league discipline" if he did indeed lay a hand on fiancee Janay Palmer.

rotoworld

And the Ravens will wait on any action until they see what the league does, if anything.

“As a league, we have a conduct policy,” Newsome said. “As a member of the league, we will follow that from A to Z. Up until we get to that point, he falls under the personal conduct policy with the league, and we will allow the league to take its position before we have to take any.”

Hard to believe the Ravens did not let Rice go ASAP.

 

[dutch]

SI's Peter King says Ray Rice will "likely face team or league discipline" if he did indeed lay a hand on fiancee Janay Palmer.

rotoworld

And the Ravens will wait on any action until they see what the league does, if anything.

“As a league, we have a conduct policy,” Newsome said. “As a member of the league, we will follow that from A to Z. Up until we get to that point, he falls under the personal conduct policy with the league, and we will allow the league to take its position before we have to take any.”

Hard to believe the Ravens did not let Rice go ASAP.

Why?

 

[avoiding injuries]

Sports talk radio in Baltimore last week:

"I don't condone hitting women, but..."

"We haven't seen the whole tape, what she did to provoke him."

"It was 2am. What do you think happens at that time of the night?"

"You don't EVER spit on someone."

You can't make this stuff up. 105.7 had a host speculating that "what if she had a knife and Ray was defending himself?" When he was called out by a caller, he said you have to take everything into account and then disconnected the caller. Wtf.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Sports talk radio in Baltimore last week:

"I don't condone hitting women, but..."

"We haven't seen the whole tape, what she did to provoke him."

"It was 2am. What do you think happens at that time of the night?"

"You don't EVER spit on someone."

You can't make this stuff up. 105.7 had a host speculating that "what if she had a knife and Ray was defending himself?" When he was called out by a caller, he said you have to take everything into account and then disconnected the caller. Wtf.

She also could have told Rice that she injected his mother with a virus from which she will die in 48 hours and she has the only antidote. He could have been just trying to save his mother. Or what if she was a sleeper cell terrorist?

 

[Da Guru]

Sports talk radio in Baltimore last week:

"I don't condone hitting women, but..."

"We haven't seen the whole tape, what she did to provoke him."

"It was 2am. What do you think happens at that time of the night?"

"You don't EVER spit on someone."

You can't make this stuff up. 105.7 had a host speculating that "what if she had a knife and Ray was defending himself?" When he was called out by a caller, he said you have to take everything into account and then disconnected the caller. Wtf.

Rice claims they were just playing the knockout game and she lost.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Assuming the video of him punching her and knocking her out exists:

I imagine Ray Rice's lawyers don't want a trial (or any other venue) where the video is shown.

I imagine the NFL doesn't want the video shown.

The video's going to come out long before any trial happens, IMO. Even if it didn't, the mere fact that it exists means Rice won't be going to trial. What would be the point? Going to get found not guilty when there's video evidence of you doing it?

Exactly. ZERO chance this goes to a trial. If there is video evidence of him hitting her, what exactly is he going to say in court? Even if she spit on him or hit him first, I'd find it hard to believe a jury wouldn't convict him since there is video of him knocking her out cold and then dragging her through the hotel.

There are multiple parts and each of them will play into the length of suspension and if Rice is cut.

1 - Not having seen the video from inside the elevator, we don't know what transpired to lead to Rice punching her. She was arrested as well. If she was punching him repeatedly, he would have nowhere to go in an elevator.

2 - We don't know what her BAC level was at this time. Could it have taken less physical contact to knock her out due to her drinking?

3 - This is the mother of his child and his fiance. I'm not sure about NJ law, but they may both drop the charges. After all, they are both losing $$ in this situation.

4 - While the NFL can suspend for 1st offenders of the Conduct Policy, Rice hasn't been in trouble with the league before. The three points above, would have a bearing on a suspension. Rice will look for the NFL to help him with a problem. Get him counseling and come out the other side a better person. It will all be for show, but it will keep Rice from getting a suspension.

I get the feeling that some are tacking on penalty because he knocked her out, or because a video exists. I think this will be another part of RIce's argument. He is a first time offender of domestic abuse. The NFL has years of history dealing with this.

I see a fine coming and maybe a 1 game suspension. This will be the actual punishment. Goodell may come out with a more severe punishment to satisfy the media. But Rice will appeal the suspension and get it reduced.

You are WAY underestimating the media feeding frenzy that will take place once this video is made public. There will be enormous public pressure on the league to come down very hard on Rice and Goodell's track record is to "Protect The Shield" at all costs. I'm guessing this will be an unprecedented suspension for domestic violence in order to make a statement.

Soooo... best case scenario 2 games, worst case scenario 8 games?

 

[T with T]

this is well said here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6gJWJGPIfY

No, it's not. It's some lame guy berating black women to grab himself a little attention.

if thats the problem then date a white woman

Yeah, that's the ticket, let's blame black women themselves for getting beat up. The problem is the Perp, not the Victim.

black women are the problem in a lot of cases.... They have a chip on their shoulders and feel some kind of self entitlement and are never on board for your dreams only want you to support them... terrible , I don't condone but I think these women can push buttons u wouldn't believe.

 

[T with T]

The video being released could seal his NFL career.... Video of this is 100 billion times worse than a simple arrest and story about this.

The media will JUMP on this once video is out.

Ray Rice may want to move out of the country if a video gets released showing him giving Sha-nay-nay a Mike Tyson uppercut.

Is every black woman Sha-nay-nay to you?

YES!

 

[MoveToSkypager]

this is well said here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6gJWJGPIfY

No, it's not. It's some lame guy berating black women to grab himself a little attention.

if thats the problem then date a white woman

Yeah, that's the ticket, let's blame black women themselves for getting beat up. The problem is the Perp, not the Victim.

black women are the problem in a lot of cases.... They have a chip on their shoulders and feel some kind of self entitlement and are never on board for your dreams only want you to support them... terrible , I don't condone but I think these women can push buttons u wouldn't believe.

WTF man. That's ugly.

 

[Neofight]

this is well said here

He has button issues.

 

[James Daulton]

Sports talk radio in Baltimore last week:

"I don't condone hitting women, but..."

"We haven't seen the whole tape, what she did to provoke him."

"It was 2am. What do you think happens at that time of the night?"

"You don't EVER spit on someone."

You can't make this stuff up. 105.7 had a host speculating that "what if she had a knife and Ray was defending himself?" When he was called out by a caller, he said you have to take everything into account and then disconnected the caller. Wtf.

I heard that too. Also, as AI posted earlier, the amount of guys calling and trying to say when it was ok to hit a women was comical.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Playing Devil's advocate here..

If it is inherently wrong to hit a woman, no matter what, is it inherently wrong to hit other people you could physically dominate?

Let's say I am 43, 5'9" and badly out of shape (huge stretch, but work with me here... I walk up to an monster NFL DE in an elevator, spit in his face and slap him. If he knocks me out and drags me out of the elevator, who are most people going to blame?

That dude is just as likely to destroy me in any kind of physical confrontation as an average man is to destroy an average woman.

Would it be inherently wrong for me to slug a female professional boxer who hit me first? Maybe we are an even match, or more likely, she is likely to be able to smack the living S out of me at this point. So she is just free to smack me around and I am supposed to just say, OK, she's a woman so...

I guess what I am wondering is if it is really reasonable to use words like "never" and "always" in these situations without knowing more about what happened. It looks REALLY bad, granted. But I think it might be much harder to resist one swing than some seem to think in certain situations (alcohol involved for starters, inhibition down). Not saying it is OK, I'm asking would it EVER be OK, or is it ALWAYS just about gender?

 

[Koya]

Sports talk radio in Baltimore last week:

"I don't condone hitting women, but..."

"We haven't seen the whole tape, what she did to provoke him."

"It was 2am. What do you think happens at that time of the night?"

"You don't EVER spit on someone."

Disgusting. Come on Bmore, let's have some ####### perspective.

 

[Touchdown There]

Spitting on someone is assault. I googled it to double check. I think she hit him and spit on him before he popped her and has a right to self defense.

Still morally wrong, but I am sure everyone was drinking.

 

[B-Deep]

Spitting on someone is assault. I googled it to double check. I think she hit him and spit on him before he popped her and has a right to self defense.

Still morally wrong, but I am sure everyone was drinking.

good luck selling that to the non-ravens-fan public

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Spitting on someone is assault. I googled it to double check. I think she hit him and spit on him before he popped her and has a right to self defense.

Still morally wrong, but I am sure everyone was drinking.

Whether spitting on someone is assault or not, assault charges were filed on both parties. By all accounts they both hit each other. I would guessing hitting trumps spitting in any case.

 

[Touchdown There]

And because both parties were charged, it is likely both parties do not press charges against each other. I would not be surprised to see the criminal charges get dropped.

Likely to be suspended a few games anyway for conduct.

 

[fatness]

It's my understanding in this case that the police/prosecutors don't have to drop the charges if the parties want them to. They do supposedly have video evidence (of one or both assaults).

 

[fatness]

Rice and Palmer initially were to be arraigned this morning at Atlantic City Municipal Court. But the arraignments were canceled "pending legal review," as the Atlantic City Police Department has requested that the prosecutor's office review the case to "ensure all appropriate charges are considered."

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2014/02/former_ravens_teammate_derrick_mason_calls_ray_rice_incident_despicable.html

 

[Tool]

It's my understanding in this case that the police/prosecutors don't have to drop the charges if the parties want them to. They do supposedly have video evidence (of one or both assaults).

I believe you are correct. If there was no video evidence they would need the fiance to testify. But with it, they both just can't drop the charges.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Rice and Palmer initially were to be arraigned this morning at Atlantic City Municipal Court. But the arraignments were canceled "pending legal review," as the Atlantic City Police Department has requested that the prosecutor's office review the case to "ensure all appropriate charges are considered."

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2014/02/former_ravens_teammate_derrick_mason_calls_ray_rice_incident_despicable.html

May we have a legal translation of that quote?

 

[Bamac]

Rice and Palmer initially were to be arraigned this morning at Atlantic City Municipal Court. But the arraignments were canceled "pending legal review," as the Atlantic City Police Department has requested that the prosecutor's office review the case to "ensure all appropriate charges are considered."

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2014/02/former_ravens_teammate_derrick_mason_calls_ray_rice_incident_despicable.html

May we have a legal translation of that quote?

Someone realized that the State's Attorney's Office needs to think about pressing more serious charges (aggravated assault). Prosecution is on hold while they do that.

 

[KCitons]

Still wondering where this witness is? The video is 51 seconds long, you can see approx 1/2 of the elevator car the entire time. Yet, no hint that there was a third person on board.

 

[Nero]

Rice and Palmer initially were to be arraigned this morning at Atlantic City Municipal Court. But the arraignments were canceled "pending legal review," as the Atlantic City Police Department has requested that the prosecutor's office review the case to "ensure all appropriate charges are considered."

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2014/02/former_ravens_teammate_derrick_mason_calls_ray_rice_incident_despicable.html

May we have a legal translation of that quote?

In Louisiana, knocking someone unconscious would result in a felony charge. Also, dual arrest are strongly discouraged as the cases almost always fall apart as the DA is representing both sides. If a predominant aggressor can be determined, only that person is arrested. I think this case will fall apart too, if they are trying to pursue charges against both. Rice will get off with some DV and AA classes. The NFL sanctions will hurt him more IMO.

 

[fatness]

Still wondering where this witness is? The video is 51 seconds long, you can see approx 1/2 of the elevator car the entire time. Yet, no hint that there was a third person on board.

Most likely the witness will respond to your challenge and post here. So there's no need to keep watching the video to see if they'll appear.

 

[KCitons]

Still wondering where this witness is? The video is 51 seconds long, you can see approx 1/2 of the elevator car the entire time. Yet, no hint that there was a third person on board.

Most likely the witness will respond to your challenge and post here. So there's no need to keep watching the video to see if they'll appear.

Not your best work

 

[Touchdown There]

Rice and Palmer initially were to be arraigned this morning at Atlantic City Municipal Court. But the arraignments were canceled "pending legal review," as the Atlantic City Police Department has requested that the prosecutor's office review the case to "ensure all appropriate charges are considered."

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2014/02/former_ravens_teammate_derrick_mason_calls_ray_rice_incident_despicable.html

May we have a legal translation of that quote?

In Louisiana, knocking someone unconscious would result in a felony charge. Also, dual arrest are strongly discouraged as the cases almost always fall apart as the DA is representing both sides. If a predominant aggressor can be determined, only that person is arrested. I think this case will fall apart too, if they are trying to pursue charges against both. Rice will get off with some DV and AA classes. The NFL sanctions will hurt him more IMO.

Sounds like you have a good legal grasp on this. We know that video exists inside the elevator. Do you believe the video will show that she was the aggressor and both hit Rice and spit on him?

 

[KellysHeroes]

"Shoryuken"

 

[Nero]

Rice and Palmer initially were to be arraigned this morning at Atlantic City Municipal Court. But the arraignments were canceled "pending legal review," as the Atlantic City Police Department has requested that the prosecutor's office review the case to "ensure all appropriate charges are considered."

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2014/02/former_ravens_teammate_derrick_mason_calls_ray_rice_incident_despicable.html

May we have a legal translation of that quote?

In Louisiana, knocking someone unconscious would result in a felony charge. Also, dual arrest are strongly discouraged as the cases almost always fall apart as the DA is representing both sides. If a predominant aggressor can be determined, only that person is arrested. I think this case will fall apart too, if they are trying to pursue charges against both. Rice will get off with some DV and AA classes. The NFL sanctions will hurt him more IMO.

Sounds like you have a good legal grasp on this. We know that video exists inside the elevator. Do you believe the video will show that she was the aggressor and both hit Rice and spit on him?

She was charged, so she obviously had to do something before she was ko'd. The laws differ from state to state, so I don't know if it matters if she was the agressor. My opinion is she did something and Rice retaliated (as opposed to defending himself). In my state, Rice could have ko'd her and not have been charged if she was the aggressor.

 

[Touchdown There]

Rice and Palmer initially were to be arraigned this morning at Atlantic City Municipal Court. But the arraignments were canceled "pending legal review," as the Atlantic City Police Department has requested that the prosecutor's office review the case to "ensure all appropriate charges are considered."

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2014/02/former_ravens_teammate_derrick_mason_calls_ray_rice_incident_despicable.html

May we have a legal translation of that quote?

In Louisiana, knocking someone unconscious would result in a felony charge. Also, dual arrest are strongly discouraged as the cases almost always fall apart as the DA is representing both sides. If a predominant aggressor can be determined, only that person is arrested. I think this case will fall apart too, if they are trying to pursue charges against both. Rice will get off with some DV and AA classes. The NFL sanctions will hurt him more IMO.

Sounds like you have a good legal grasp on this. We know that video exists inside the elevator. Do you believe the video will show that she was the aggressor and both hit Rice and spit on him?

She was charged, so she obviously had to do something before she was ko'd. The laws differ from state to state, so I don't know if it matters if she was the agressor. My opinion is she did something and Rice retaliated (as opposed to defending himself). In my state, Rice could have ko'd her and not have been charged if she was the aggressor.

I see what you are saying. It is not really self defense because she was likely woman slapping him along with spitting instead of going for harm. I agree that he retaliated and Rice never felt threatened.With intent in mind, I do not feel that Rice intended to knock her out cold. I'm betting he barely popped her and the alcohol dehydration on the brain caused an easy knock out. He would have looked ten times better with a fireman carry as oposed to the dead body drag, but it is what it is.

 

[fatness]

Update

Ravens running back Ray Rice has been indicted in Atlantic County, N.J. on a charge of aggravated assault, prosecutors announced Thursday.

Rice had initially faced a charge of simple assault for allegedly striking his fiancee, Janay Palmer, in the Revel Casino on Feb. 15. Police wrote in a complaint that he knocked her unconscious in a hotel elevator, the aftermath of which was shown in a video clip obtained by the website TMZ.

Prosecutors took the case to a grand jury, which returned a more serious charge of aggravated assault. The charge carries a potential penalty of three to five years in prison, officials said.

In addition to bringing new charges against Rice, prosecutors dismissed a simple assault charge that had been filed against Palmer.

Diamondstein said that Rice will not be taken into custody as a result of the new charges. Prosecutors said the next court hearing date has not been set.

 

[az_prof]

Update

Ravens running back Ray Rice has been indicted in Atlantic County, N.J. on a charge of aggravated assault, prosecutors announced Thursday.

Rice had initially faced a charge of simple assault for allegedly striking his fiancee, Janay Palmer, in the Revel Casino on Feb. 15. Police wrote in a complaint that he knocked her unconscious in a hotel elevator, the aftermath of which was shown in a video clip obtained by the website TMZ.

Prosecutors took the case to a grand jury, which returned a more serious charge of aggravated assault. The charge carries a potential penalty of three to five years in prison, officials said.

In addition to bringing new charges against Rice, prosecutors dismissed a simple assault charge that had been filed against Palmer.

Diamondstein said that Rice will not be taken into custody as a result of the new charges. Prosecutors said the next court hearing date has not been set.

This is serious. What I read was three year minimum jail sentence, up to five. This may not be a question of NFL suspension but of jail time. I wonder how long until the trial though?

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Update

Ravens running back Ray Rice has been indicted in Atlantic County, N.J. on a charge of aggravated assault, prosecutors announced Thursday.

Rice had initially faced a charge of simple assault for allegedly striking his fiancee, Janay Palmer, in the Revel Casino on Feb. 15. Police wrote in a complaint that he knocked her unconscious in a hotel elevator, the aftermath of which was shown in a video clip obtained by the website TMZ.

Prosecutors took the case to a grand jury, which returned a more serious charge of aggravated assault. The charge carries a potential penalty of three to five years in prison, officials said.

In addition to bringing new charges against Rice, prosecutors dismissed a simple assault charge that had been filed against Palmer.

Diamondstein said that Rice will not be taken into custody as a result of the new charges. Prosecutors said the next court hearing date has not been set.

This is serious. What I read was three year minimum jail sentence, up to five. This may not be a question of NFL suspension but of jail time. I wonder how long until the trial though?

It's hugely unlikely to actually go to trial. Rice will plead guilty to a lesser charge, he'll get fined, do a bunch of community service, go to counseling, and get 4 games at most off from the league. Which they'll probably reduce to two. It's pretty unlikely that anyone goes to prison for a 1st time assault charge unless either someone gets seriously hurt or the person is a raging ##### to the police / prosecutors / judge. Let alone a multi-millionaire NFL star who can find a couple of battered women's shelters to help make this go smoothly.

 

[KCitons]

Curious that the charges against the gf were dropped. I would think that the police looked at the video evidence and took witness statements before arresting both parties. Maybe the gf only spit on Rice, and he responded by knocking her out. I can't see any other physical violence on her part being dropped.

 

[RBM]

Update

Ravens running back Ray Rice has been indicted in Atlantic County, N.J. on a charge of aggravated assault, prosecutors announced Thursday.

Rice had initially faced a charge of simple assault for allegedly striking his fiancee, Janay Palmer, in the Revel Casino on Feb. 15. Police wrote in a complaint that he knocked her unconscious in a hotel elevator, the aftermath of which was shown in a video clip obtained by the website TMZ.

Prosecutors took the case to a grand jury, which returned a more serious charge of aggravated assault. The charge carries a potential penalty of three to five years in prison, officials said.

In addition to bringing new charges against Rice, prosecutors dismissed a simple assault charge that had been filed against Palmer.

Diamondstein said that Rice will not be taken into custody as a result of the new charges. Prosecutors said the next court hearing date has not been set.

This is serious. What I read was three year minimum jail sentence, up to five. This may not be a question of NFL suspension but of jail time. I wonder how long until the trial though?

It's hugely unlikely to actually go to trial. Rice will plead guilty to a lesser charge, he'll get fined, do a bunch of community service, go to counseling, and get 4 games at most off from the league. Which they'll probably reduce to two. It's pretty unlikely that anyone goes to prison for a 1st time assault charge unless either someone gets seriously hurt or the person is a raging ##### to the police / prosecutors / judge. Let alone a multi-millionaire NFL star who can find a couple of battered women's shelters to help make this go smoothly.

/thread

 

[JohnnyU]

Curious that the charges against the gf were dropped. I would think that the police looked at the video evidence and took witness statements before arresting both parties. Maybe the gf only spit on Rice, and he responded by knocking her out. I can't see any other physical violence on her part being dropped.

Any man who would do that to a women isn't a man and deserves to be suspended for an entire year from the NFL in addition to whatever punishment the state gives him.

 

[Bamac]

Curious that the charges against the gf were dropped. I would think that the police looked at the video evidence and took witness statements before arresting both parties. Maybe the gf only spit on Rice, and he responded by knocking her out. I can't see any other physical violence on her part being dropped.

Bet they charged her to induce cooperation.

 

[KCitons]

Curious that the charges against the gf were dropped. I would think that the police looked at the video evidence and took witness statements before arresting both parties. Maybe the gf only spit on Rice, and he responded by knocking her out. I can't see any other physical violence on her part being dropped.

Bet they charged her to induce cooperation.

Or the police were starstruck with an NFL player and felt an assault charge for her, would help his case.

 

[RBM]

Curious that the charges against the gf were dropped. I would think that the police looked at the video evidence and took witness statements before arresting both parties. Maybe the gf only spit on Rice, and he responded by knocking her out. I can't see any other physical violence on her part being dropped.

Any man who would do that to a women isn't a man and deserves to be suspended for an entire year from the NFL in addition to whatever punishment the state gives him.

Agree but we know that too many people don't care enough.

 

[cstu]

Update

Ravens running back Ray Rice has been indicted in Atlantic County, N.J. on a charge of aggravated assault, prosecutors announced Thursday.

Rice had initially faced a charge of simple assault for allegedly striking his fiancee, Janay Palmer, in the Revel Casino on Feb. 15. Police wrote in a complaint that he knocked her unconscious in a hotel elevator, the aftermath of which was shown in a video clip obtained by the website TMZ.

Prosecutors took the case to a grand jury, which returned a more serious charge of aggravated assault. The charge carries a potential penalty of three to five years in prison, officials said.

In addition to bringing new charges against Rice, prosecutors dismissed a simple assault charge that had been filed against Palmer.

Diamondstein said that Rice will not be taken into custody as a result of the new charges. Prosecutors said the next court hearing date has not been set.

This is serious. What I read was three year minimum jail sentence, up to five. This may not be a question of NFL suspension but of jail time. I wonder how long until the trial though?

That is correct, but they must be able to convict him of that. If there's video evidence of her instigating a fight then he could claim self defense. I don't see them taking this to court instead of getting him to plead to a lesser crime with probation.

 

[Bamac]

Update

Ravens running back Ray Rice has been indicted in Atlantic County, N.J. on a charge of aggravated assault, prosecutors announced Thursday.

Rice had initially faced a charge of simple assault for allegedly striking his fiancee, Janay Palmer, in the Revel Casino on Feb. 15. Police wrote in a complaint that he knocked her unconscious in a hotel elevator, the aftermath of which was shown in a video clip obtained by the website TMZ.

Prosecutors took the case to a grand jury, which returned a more serious charge of aggravated assault. The charge carries a potential penalty of three to five years in prison, officials said.

In addition to bringing new charges against Rice, prosecutors dismissed a simple assault charge that had been filed against Palmer.

Diamondstein said that Rice will not be taken into custody as a result of the new charges. Prosecutors said the next court hearing date has not been set.

This is serious. What I read was three year minimum jail sentence, up to five. This may not be a question of NFL suspension but of jail time. I wonder how long until the trial though?

That is correct, but they must be able to convict him of that. If there's video evidence of her instigating a fight then he could claim self defense. I don't see them taking this to court instead of getting him to plead to a lesser crime with probation.

Depends on the video. They may have no choice.

 

[PatsWillWin]

If they have an open/shut case with video, what incentive does the government have to make a deal that doesn't include some jail time?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

If they have an open/shut case with video, what incentive does the government have to make a deal that doesn't include some jail time?

Money, good lawyers make deals, etc.

 

[msudaisy26]

If they have an open/shut case with video, what incentive does the government have to make a deal that doesn't include some jail time?

Money, good lawyers make deals, etc.

Not to mention he is a first time offender, the girl friend doesn't wish to press charges, and plea bargains say the courts time and money.

He won't do jail time and will only miss 4 games at the most.

 

[jmo87usc]

For those who are smarter than me, and it doesn't take much, can they still prosecute him to the fullest degree if she doesn't press charges? I guess at that point it would be the state, or the Revel vs. Ray Rice? Not sure how that stuff works.