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Ray Rice Bandwagon Thread (1 Viewer)
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tombonneau
Footballguy
I like Rice, but he looked so-so vs. the Pats. Hit behind the line a few times. Though their DL played well, so think it had less to do with Rice.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Anyone who didn't (or still doesn't) believe in this kid, watch the first quarter of Bal/Min highlights.
The #1 run defense and he sliced it up for a 30+ yd run and another for a goal line score.
The #1 run defense and he sliced it up for a 30+ yd run and another for a goal line score.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
He looks much more relaxed this week. He sure doesn't need much of a hole - if there's a flash of daylight, he shimmies through.
I can't wait to snag McGahee as my number 2 RB in all of my upcoming drafts. Late 3rd, early 4th round? Hell I've seen him drop even farther than that. Insane. Like someone said earlier...this situation reminds me a hell of a lot to Clinton Portis' last year and look how that turned out. McGahee will be ready for week 1 and will be the steal of every draft. Hope everyone keeps drinking that Ray Rice kool-aid, he won't be anything but a change of pace guy.
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super sleeper
Footballguy
In watching Ray for the last 3 years (RU season ticket holder), this is what always stood out. You think the play is going nowhere, and all of a sudden Rice is coming out through the back of the line for a 9 or 10 yd. gain. I haven't seen today's game, but from some comments on another board, it sounds like Rice has been more patient in his running this week, waiting for his blocks and finding holes. Sounds like he might have been more comfortable this week.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
- shhhhhhh! Lots of RU fans at my draft!Nemesis Enforcer
Footballguy
Anyone have a rookie draft in a dynasty league recently? Curious as to what his ADP has risen to with these preseason games.
Ten team league. He went at 1.10. I'm starting to think that was a steal.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
It was. He shouldn't be lower than 6th.What was the Top 9???Tom Baker said:
1.01 - Darren McFadden1.02 - Jonathan Stewart1.03 - Rashard Mendenhall1.04 - Matt Forte1.05 - Matt Ryan1.06 - Kevin Smith1.07 - Felix Jones1.08 - Chris Johnson1.09 - Jamaal Charles
Banger
Footballguy
That 1.09 pick will be kicking themselves for a long time.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
From what I'm reading, Ray Rice fits the Harbaugh system better than McGahee and will push him out of Baltimore within 2 years. I can see that happening in 1.UzMyBytch said:
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Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
All things being equal, I don't think there's a ton of doubt that McGahee would be the more productive back this season. However, things aren't equal right now. Besides the injury itself McGahee has missed most of the reps in a new offense. I know in general RBs are the easiest to just plug in, but at some point McGahee's going to be playing catch up (I think he's already past that point) & the longer he's out the longer it's gonna take.I agree that he represents crazy value in the 3rd or 4th - if he's going to be ready to play at a high level relatively soon. This situation is different to me than Portis' last year. Portis already knew the coaches & the personnel was relatively stable, plus he didn't get his knee scoped.UzMyBytch said:
Gridiron King
Footballguy
In three different dynasty rookie drafts I took Rice at 1.05, 1.06 and 1.07 and passed on Felix and Forte in a couple of them.
Balco
Footballguy
I don't think many in this thread are touting Ray Rice in 2008. I think we are all just excited about his talent and his future prospects. He looks awesome, and is going to be an every down back, as soon as 2009. Yet people are still passing on him in dynasty rookie drafts for players like Forte and Kevin Smith, all because they have a better opportunity. Talent always wins out in the NFL. While Forte and Smith might contribute more in 2008, Rice is the guy to get for 2009 and beyond.UzMyBytch said:
Paddy O'Seanessy
Footballguy
Are we comfortable with the Raven's offensive line?
fun-b
Footballguy
I believe anything coming from the mouth of Old Man River. Lol.
gregjcross
Footballguy
SOmebody please let the Ravens staff know they are overworking Ray Rice whne you consider the vast amounts of carries at practice. Give him a 6 day break with just light running and no contact.
The dude needs to be ready for week 1 and to last.
The dude needs to be ready for week 1 and to last.
North
Footballguy
This topic reminds me a lot of the Brian Leonard topic last year in the pre-season. Rice may pan out but he may also be benefitting from playing preseason games. He's looked good but everyone needs to remember it's just pre-season.
Last year there were lots of people claiming that Leonard was going to take SJAX's job and he would sign. cut into his carries, look how that turned out. All we can do is wait and see, but I'm not going to jump on this bandwagon just yet as I think that McGahee has far more talent and is only coming off of a minor procedure and will eventually regain his starter status once he's healthy.
Last year there were lots of people claiming that Leonard was going to take SJAX's job and he would sign. cut into his carries, look how that turned out. All we can do is wait and see, but I'm not going to jump on this bandwagon just yet as I think that McGahee has far more talent and is only coming off of a minor procedure and will eventually regain his starter status once he's healthy.
thehornet
Footballguy
Do you know that Rice overtook Brian Leonard at Rutgers as a Sophmore? He did.They really arent in the same discussion for talent level. I dont know who said Leonard woudl take Jackson's position, but that sounds very silly to me.
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mozzy84
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
point is, its pre-season..McGahee, by all accounts, will be ready for the opener..Rice has more of a Michael Turner 2006-2007 slant to him than anything else, i.e., an overhyped backup who many think would steal the starting position ( in this case, by injury to Tomlinson) but they had to wait to see that happen ( signed by Atl)...I like Rice, but Cameron has never been a RBBC guy and if McGahee is healthy and looks sharp, we won't hear a peep out of Rice this season..next year, maybe, but probably not this year..thehornet said:
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az_prof
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I don't think that it is clear that McGahee will be ready by game 1 for full time starter action. Last I heard he wasn't even running yet, he is having trouble learning the new playbook, and he was out of shape before the knee surgery. I don't see how he can jump in and take 25 carries week 1. That being said, he is still the featured back, but in the NFL you don't want to surrender game time to a good backup.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Watching Rice's Rutgers highlight reels, I am impressed.
Forget about some of those mammoth holes he had to run through for a moment, and look at his lateral speed and his bruising style. For a smaller guy, he is punishing. I think the Maurice Jones-Drew comparison is apt. Both Rice and Drew are a load to take down once they get moving. And Rice seems to had a very speedy initial burst, which means the offensive line doesn't need to hold their blocks for a long time.
I have Rice on my team and I don't expect much this year. But the shelf life for RBs is short, so I don't expect McGahee to last a long time given all the carries he's going to get in that offense. This is a player I will stash away with high hopes in the future.
Forget about some of those mammoth holes he had to run through for a moment, and look at his lateral speed and his bruising style. For a smaller guy, he is punishing. I think the Maurice Jones-Drew comparison is apt. Both Rice and Drew are a load to take down once they get moving. And Rice seems to had a very speedy initial burst, which means the offensive line doesn't need to hold their blocks for a long time.
I have Rice on my team and I don't expect much this year. But the shelf life for RBs is short, so I don't expect McGahee to last a long time given all the carries he's going to get in that offense. This is a player I will stash away with high hopes in the future.
North
Footballguy
My point with the comparison was to show how last year many thought that B. Leonard would cut into SJAX carries b/c of his talent and the way he performed in the preseason, not a comparison of their running ability in college.
Many thought that Leonard would be a nice change of pace back who would get 3rd down carries and cut into SJAX's receiving numbers based on his performance in the preseason. When Leonard got his chance he crapped the bed and showed that he wasn't at the same talent level as Jackson. I like Rice but IMO he isn't at the same talent level as McGahee. Rice may get the opportunity that Leonard got last year and I expect similar results. Rice is good but not at McGahee's level right now and we must remember that these numbers Rice is putting up are PRESEASON #'s. Don't get caught up in the hype! Take McGahee in the 4th or 5th and reep the rewards later in the season.
Many thought that Leonard would be a nice change of pace back who would get 3rd down carries and cut into SJAX's receiving numbers based on his performance in the preseason. When Leonard got his chance he crapped the bed and showed that he wasn't at the same talent level as Jackson. I like Rice but IMO he isn't at the same talent level as McGahee. Rice may get the opportunity that Leonard got last year and I expect similar results. Rice is good but not at McGahee's level right now and we must remember that these numbers Rice is putting up are PRESEASON #'s. Don't get caught up in the hype! Take McGahee in the 4th or 5th and reep the rewards later in the season.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
The Ravens play Cincy. That should be all you need to know.
Frank Black
Footballguy
I would hate to lose my first FF game of the season by playing an untested rookie over someone else more reliable on my roster. The truth is that we never know how defenses will look the 1st week. There are always defense surprises the first week who overperform or underperform.
Frank Black
Footballguy
What difference does it make where you play him if there is someone on your roster who is more reliable to score more points who can also be played in that same slot. I am puzzled at the concept that I see on the board that taking a risk of playing a certain player in the flex position is somehow a better decision even though you can play someone else in that same flex position who is more liklely to score the points you need.bucsbaby said:
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
I'm starting Rice over the following 3 guys as my 3rd flex in a standard scoring non-ppr league:Chestor TaylorBurlesonGinnI suspect most Rice owners are facing somewhat similar options. Rice clearly seems like the safest pick out of the 3 with the most upside. It's completely irrelevant that he's a rookie.
