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asiata is on the viks, right?Dr. Octopus said:
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RB Ameer Abdullah, LV (2 Viewers)
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Biabreakable
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Craig_MiamiFL
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Shown flashes when healthy but reality of it he's a 2 down back that won't get goalline work either. Gonna take Riddick injury to be more than a RB3 in PPR. I presume that's where he's been drafted/ranked at this point.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
It does shape up as somewhat of a committee, but AA will at least be the chairman of that committee.Dr. Octopus said:
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Abdullah's career averages 1.6 catches per game. In order to achieve 50 catches he would have to double that statistic to 3.1 catches per game. I really don't see that happening unless Riddick gets hurt. Let's put this into perspective... Riddick had 53 catches last season. All other RBs 34. If Riddick wasn't there, sure this would be reasonable but I don't see how anyone can think Abdullah is going to get above 30 receptions this season.
8.9 carries per game for his career and needs 12.5 to get to 200 carries. His rookie year he had Reggie Bush and Joique Bell ahead of him and managed 140ish, so I think it's reasonable to assume he can get 200 carries being #1 on the depth chart.
His value lies in receptions, but I just don't see any way for him to get 50 receptions when Riddick eats them all up.
I'll say Abdullah is likelt to get 235 carries and rush for 1010 yards, possibly 5-7 TDs.... 30 receptions for 240 yards and 2 TDs
I think I'm being pretty generous... especially with the reception statistics.
Not sure where that puts him among RBs but that's a realistic expectation in my mind considering the other talents at RB and specific skill sets they possess.
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Well, I'm not sure there's any value in trying to review his "career averages" when he was splitting time in 2015 with Joique Bell and only played 1.5 games in 2016. It appears that the 3 way RBBC from 2015 is now down to a 2 way RBBC. In 2015, Abdullah had 25 rec in 16 games, Bell had 22 in 13 games, and Riddick had 80 rec in 16 games. So I don't see why Abdullah can't have 50 rec now that they're supposedly making him the featured back. Should they renege on that and have him splitting time with someone the way he did with Bell, then that will change things. But for now it appears he'll own 1st and 2nd down.
I agree 235 carries is generous, but 4.3 ypc is not. They've upgraded the OL and the offense as a whole appears to be better under JBC than it was back in 2015 when Abdullah averaged 4.3 ypc as a rookie.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
You make good points. I am not really sure I see Detroit completing 127 passes to running backs this year... very different dynamic; in 2015 they had one of the best WRs in the game stretching the field. That threat was gone last year. But who knows. Certainly it's possible given the statistics you've shown. I think assuming Abdullah doubles his receptions/game isn't really based on anything except a hunch. I supposed we just don't know what how he will be used because he was hurt all last year, so maybe he is used more in the passing role and a hunch is the best we got!
In regard to the 4.3 YPC... I was trying to be conservative on that based on his history. I could say he could average 5.5 yards per carry but I have no basis for that prediction 4.3 is likely his floor.
Zeke rushed for 5.1 YPC... are we thinking he is that good this year? If so then I'd say his ceiling is 1200 yards at the 235 carries.
Maybe 4.8 is more realistic, 1128 vs 1010 yards... kind of splitting hairs (we are talking about 7.3 yards per game difference)
Well, something that keeps getting overlooked is that Marvin's steep drop off last year coincided with some injuries. It's very possible that he gets back on track and provides the field stretching needed.
As for the ypc, duly noted. And as I mentioned, the generous number of carries more than offsets the ypc. In general, ypc is very difficult to predict. Zeke averaged 5.1 ypc behind a very good o-line. But OL is just one of many factors. For instance, if a guy gets 200 carries and 20 of them are goal line carries, it's likely to lower his ypc by 0.1-0.2. Nothing major, but again, just one of many factors. My expectation is 200 carries with a ypc between 4.5 and 4.8. Something in the 5's wouldn't shock me, but I'd never project anyone for 5 ypc outside of maybe DeAngelo or JC in their prime. Especially considering just how poorly Detroit has rushed as a team (sub 4 ypc for all RBs the past 3 years). Could be a reflection on talent, scheme, or OL. Hard to say. But looking at those numbers, I think Abdullah's 4.3 ypc was pretty good in 2015 considering the rest of the team's RBs combined for 158 carries for 508 yards (3.2 ypc) compared to his 143-597. I expect the additions of Rick Wagner and TJ Lang to really help the blocking, though.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Why?
I agree he'll lead the team in carries on 1st and 2nd down, but own? He hasn't so far. I think people are mistakenly thinking that Riddick was just a passing down back. In their short spell playing together last year Riddick got ALL the carries, including 1st and 2nd down, on every 3rd drive. Abdullah would play two drives as the lead back, then Riddick would play one. Meanwhile Riddick also handled garbage time and Washington handled the goaline carries.
In the only game that Abdullah and Riddick played together last year (Abdullah got hurt very late in the game) the 1st and 2nd down carries broke down as follows.
Abdullah - 12
Riddick - 7
Washington - 2 (both at the goaline)
It's a small sample size, but it was pretty clear how they were using them in that stretch. That's certainly no guarantee it will work the same way in the future, but given that Abdullah left both games he played last year early with injuries, why are we thinking that they are looking to increase his workload, much less as some sort of guarantee? Is there some coach interview I'm missing here or are people just not realizing that Riddick was getting early down work too even when Abdullah was healthy last year?
To be fair he did get more 3rd down work than people are thinking he did as well. Riddick wasn't really a 3rd down back. On Abdullah's drives he stayed out there on 3rd downs. It was more passing drives (garbage time or 2 min drill) where Abdullah gave way to Riddick in the passing game.
If Detroit takes a similar approach this year to what they were doing when they had everyone healthy last year it seems like Abdullah is likely to be the lead back on 2 of every 3 drives, while ceding garbage time and 2-minute drill work to Riddick and ceding short yardage work to one of the bigger backs.
Because he's exponentially better than Riddick as a runner and because the coaches this year are calling him the featured back. Despite playing in situations that lend themselves to a higher ypc, Riddick has a career 3.5 ypc. In 2015, Abdullah averaged over a 1.0 ypc more than Riddick behind the same line.
I get that we're on a FF board, but if anyone can take a step back from their PPR stats they'll realize Riddick is a niche player and not a very good all round RB. His ability as a player is ignored due to the aggregate PPR numbers people are looking at. Abdullah on the other hand was a very, very good college player (80th percentile college dominator rating, 72nd percentile college ypc, 65th percentile college target share) who gets dinged for size (yet heavier and more compact than Charles) and is now labeled injury prone due to one injury (I don't think he missed any games in college, but I could be wrong, and he played a full 16 games in his first NFL season). And on top of that, his SPARQ score was off the charts.
As an auction guy, I really love guys in Abdullah's current range so every year I look for a few guys around that AAV/ADP with a chance to break out and I try to grab them all, hoping a couple work out and I can play them situationally. So I'm not saying Abdullah is a lock, but I think when his team passed on RB in the draft and free agency his value should have sky rocketed, but it didn't so he's now a prime target. I think he's got the talent to thrive as a featured back and I think that opportunity is coming this year. But that's just me. It seems like everyone else is writing him off due to silly one line narratives. He can't be productive while Riddick is there. He's injury prone. He's too small.
It appears you are correct about Abdullah leaving the Indy game early. At the time of his last recorded play, he had 12 carries to Riddick's 5. In the TEN game, Riddick had no stats at all prior to Abdullah's departure (6 carries to 0). So I'm not sure how many conclusions we can draw from that, but if Abdullah is once again averaging over a yard per carry more than Riddick, how long do you think the staff is going to keep giving Riddick carries? Or maybe they've already realized Riddick's limitations and that's why they're calling Abdullah the featured back. I dunno. But I think Abdullah's opportunity cost is very favorable this year.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
But didn't the Lions already know all this heading into last year when they spelled Abdullah every 3rd drive? The only thing that's changed since then is that Riddick had his best year of his career as a runner, and that Abdullah got hurt twice. So the logic here is that when Riddick was a 3.1ypc guy and Abdullah had been healthy they decided to give Riddick every 3rd drive, but now that Riddick is a 3.9ypc guy and Abdullah got hurt in both of his starts they're going to....give Abdullah all the work?
I agree that Abdullah is a better runner than Riddick, and I have no misillusions of what Riddick is based off his PPR scoring. I own 0 shares of these guys and have never owned any of them. I don't have a "favorite" here or a strong opinion one way or the other, I'm just trying to figure things out before redrafts get going and I think there are some fallacies being mentioned in here where people are less interested in figuring it out and more interested in hyping up "their guy". The notion that the Lions only see Riddick as a passing down back is one of those fallacies because that's not necessarily how they've used him. This stuff about Lions coaches hyping up Abdullah as the "featured back" is another made up story that people are knee deep in. It's fake news.
Here is everything the Lions coaches have said about Abdullah's role this offseason.
Reporter: Is Abdullah the starter this year?
Quinn: He is.
He also went on to say the following.
Between Ameer (Abdullah), Theo (Riddick), Zach (Zenner), Dwayne (Washington) and Mike James, and whoever else we might bring in here in the future, I think we’re going to have plenty of running backs to carry the load.”
Nothing about a featured role (he was the "starter" last year too), and if anything he also mentions them using multiple backs. The only other thing he mentioned is that they considered drafting another back in the middle rounds of the draft this year. And of course there were rumors floating around about them being interested in Mixon.
Any talk of "featured back" stuff is referencing an article by a beat writer (Tim Twentymen) who SPECULATED the following:
The Lions seem to expect the third-year back to play a featured role in their offense in 2017. General manager Bob Quinn didn’t sign or draft a running back this offseason and Quinn called Abdullah the starter in an interview.
Just complete speculation based on the same info that we have. It's not even "according to sources" or anything. Just "eh they didn't draft a RB, so maybe they're going to feature Abdullah!". Nothing of substance there. And if you look any article talking about Abdullah's "featured" role references that quote as their source.
Not that it matters since it wasn't a useful tidbit anyway but Twentyman, by the way, back tracked this week and said Abdullah and Riddick could form a one-two punch this year.
Could Abdullah end up being the featured back? Sure. I like the guy as a player and I'd like to see it. But it's all speculation and all signs from the actual people making that decision have so far pointed otherwise. I agree at his ADP he is good value on the upshot that he does take over the role, but let's not just ignore that things have only gotten worse for him since the coaches last made the decision to not give him that role, nor have they done anything to imply that he will have it going forward.
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Dr. Octopus
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Interseptopus
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Lions OL Taylor Decker is out for "a while" following shoulder surgery.
FWIW, I'm doing the same thing, but on this topic I feel pretty good about Abdullah so I'm just sharing my logic in his thread. He's one of several guys that I deem to be a steal. Again, the knocks against him are pretty weak. Either Riddick, a vastly inferior talent, is going to steal all his value, or he's injury prone after basically one serious injury in the past 6 years. No one mentions that Riddick, despite only 164 career carries, has missed time in 3 out of 4 seasons.
The Lions are in the business of winning games (no matter what history says). The cream will rise to the top. With an improved OL, healthy WRs/TEs, and a good running back, I think Detroit could be a top 10 NFL offense. I like owning the most talented RB in good offenses.
I'm not trying to hype "my guy" here. I think I drafted him in some of those mock draft forum leagues (WSL, PDSL, SSL), but I don't really consider that enough of an investment to blind me on him. I'm not one of those guys that has a draft and instantly starts threads about the guys I drafted looking for some confirmation bias.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I know. Has to be frustrating for Detroit fans... I can't imagine. Things were looking so up. Decker had surgery on his shoulder and is out for an undetermined amount of time. No idea what happened but Caldwell mentioned it was a non-contact injury. So I wonder if he fell onto his arm. Something that would keep him out "not all of 2017 season" would likely be something rather serious: Labral/Rotator/Bicep tear. A simple scope "clean out" would basically have him out only a couple of months tops.
Lang's hip is bad news. I'd be cautious about that if I were a Lions fan.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Technically no. But maybe. Depends on who you talk to I guess.
My definition of a contact related injury (for football at least) would be someone rolls into you, contact with a hit, from blocking someone. Not really going to the ground. If someone fell to the ground (tripped, whatever) and hurt their shoulder I'd say that was non-contact. Contact didn't initiate the injury, but it did result in the tissue damage.
In regard to the lower extremities the classic example of a non contact would be cutting, jumping/landing, running and something weirdly happens.
In non-contact injuries something else besides contact initiates the injury and your body weight kind of takes care of the rest of the tissue damage.
Another scenario is maybe weight lifting... since they aren't really doing contact drills (that I know of) I'd think this would be most likely after thinking it through further.
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
Detroit is a good example of how game flow really dictates how they use their RBs. They have lots of mediocre talent. I hold the opinion that Detroit is a "great" RB away from being a perennial playoff contender. Yes, most teams are as well, but Detroit has fewer holes than a lot of teams; they're the kind of team that with a few good FA pickups and draft hits can go from 8-8 to 12-4 and be in the conference championship.
That being said, Abdullah hasn't shown to be a 3 down back. They have talent for passing downs that has been proven in the past to work well. I'm not real sure they want a bell cow. Or even need one. Abdullah has never been able to stay healthy dating back to pre-NFL years.
That all said, the upside is there and since he can likely be had for cheap as a RB3 I think the reward is well worth the risk
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mcintyre1
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Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
Abdullah hasn't had a real opportunity to show he's a 3 down RB in the NFL. Your post has so much misinformation you might as well delete it. I know you like to be the know-it-all but this is just bad posting.
Detroit is a good example of how game flow really dictates how they use their RBs. They have lots of mediocre talent. I hold the opinion that Detroit is a "great" RB away from being a perennial playoff contender. Yes, most teams are as well, but Detroit has fewer holes than a lot of teams; they're the kind of team that with a few good FA pickups and draft hits can go from 8-8 to 12-4 and be in the conference championship.
That being said, Abdullah hasn't shown to be a 3 down back. They have talent for passing downs that has been proven in the past to work well. I'm not real sure they want a bell cow. Or even need one. Abdullah has never been able to stay healthy dating back to pre-NFL years.
That all said, the upside is there and since he can likely be had for cheap as a RB3 I think the reward is well worth the risk
Interseptopus
Footballguy
That's not my intention at all. It'd be great for you to read my posts with an open mind and without assuming my personality or intention. This is one of the biggest misconceptions of me on this board. I may type intelligently, I can't help it, but it is not my intention to come across this way. I understand he hasn't had an opportunity to show he can be a 3 down back, but he hasn't shown that he has the ability to stay healthy to be a 3 down back either!Rhythmdoctor said:
We see this all the time with players with a lot of talent and opportunity but never live up to it for some reason or another. How long do we have this song and dance with Abdullah? I have said above that regardless of all of these question marks I'm still on board, just tempering my expectations to some degree.
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
I was referring to a knee injury in 2014 I think. I am not sure if he missed any time but I remember him having a sprain of some sort.
C'mon... We both know you just googled it and that was all you could find.
We also both know that what you found when you googled was that he did not miss any time with that minor sprain (played the very next game).
So the guy missed zero games in four years of college, zero games in his first NFL season, and had one missed time injury in 2016 and that somehow warrants the statement "Abdullah has never been able to stay healthy dating back to pre-NFL years."??
(hint: the answer is no)
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Interesting theory. I remembered the year he was drafted there was a mention of an injury the year before. That's all. You're right, there isn't justification to say the he couldn't stay healthy in college. I thought I had already conceded to that, but if we need a pissing contest or some declaration of incorrectness, you win. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong and this is one of those times that I'm wrong.C'mon... We both know you just googled it and that was all you could find.
We also both know that what you found when you googled was that he did not miss any time with that minor sprain (played the very next game).
So the guy missed zero games in four years of college, zero games in his first NFL season, and had one missed time injury in 2016 and that somehow warrants the statement "Abdullah has never been able to stay healthy dating back to pre-NFL years."??
(hint: the answer is no)
I was also going off of a post from someone else I read in this thread earlier that is now deleted of someone making a comment on his college injury history. Probably deleted for obvious reasons. Or I'm thinking of a different thread... but I don't think I have been in much of other threads. It was a long week last week, I made a lot of mental errors in general last week. I can admit that I was incorrect in saying that. If you need me to post again admitting this mistake, just let me know
I don't need to look important in an online message board. I enjoy these kinds of conversations because I am seriously eyeing up drafting him and I have reservations so it's great to hear from people who aren't concerned at all about him; gets me a little more excited about jumping back on this train.
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Not a pissing contest at all. Just looking for clarification. You just now said "there isn't justification to say the he couldn't stay healthy in college. I thought I had already conceded to that" but all you actually said was "I was referring to a knee injury in 2014 I think. I am not sure if he missed any time but I remember him having a sprain of some sort." Sorry, but I didn't read that as a concession.Interesting theory. I remembered the year he was drafted there was a mention of an injury the year before. That's all. You're right, there isn't justification to say the he couldn't stay healthy in college. I thought I had already conceded to that, but if we need a pissing contest or some declaration of incorrectness, you win. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong and this is one of those times that I'm wrong.
I was also going off of a post from someone else I read in this thread earlier that is now deleted of someone making a comment on his injury history. Probably deleted for obvious reasons. I can admit that I was incorrect in saying that. If you need me to post again admitting this mistake, just let me know
I don't need to look important in an online message board. I enjoy these kinds of conversations because I am seriously eyeing up drafting him and I have reservations so it's great to hear from people who aren't concerned at all about him; gets me a little more excited about jumping back on this train.
As you can tell, I've taken up the role of resident Abdullah defender in this thread, so I've been calling out everyone who keeps citing injury history or calling him injury prone, so please don't take it personally. I don't discriminate in who I call out. I'm just fighting the good fight against misinformation. Not sure why... I am hoping to get him cheap in my redrafts. I should let this misinformation propagate so I can get him even cheaper.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Appreciate that. As I mentioned earlier I am definitely intrigued by him and I have some reservations. It's great to put some of those to rest with what others have to say. Many in here have given some awesome stats and information.
Contrary to what some may believe, no I am not a trolling Packer fan who goes into divisional opponent threads to just cause problems. If anyone has read many of my posts in the past they know that football really doesn't mean much to me; I'd quit fantasy if I stopped winning. I'm here to give and receive information. I was spouting off some stuff in the Mariota thread a while ago and reading what people had to say it really changed my mind about him as well.
Ha, I didn't even realize you were a packer fan. Who you betting to win that backfield?
I don't follow any posters in particular and only maintain high or low opinions of a few specific people, so I didn't think you were trolling anyone or trying to cause problems. Just another person who was mistaken on Abdullah's injury history.
Bossman
Footballguy
Really thought Abdulla would be a PPR machine his first year in the league and many seasons beyond. Seemed like a great landing spot in DET.
Drafted him that year and again last year in my keeper / redraft league ... as well as most of my dynasty leagues. Disappointed to say the least.
Really puts a dampener on any chance of success when an early pick doesn't produce.
If the dang guy could just stay healthy for a season. I still think he could put up solid numbers. Top 10 RB (in a PPR) and maybe crack the top 5.
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(Rotoworld) Lions.com reporter Tim Twentyman said the Lions are a "different offense" with Ameer Abdullah.
Analysis: Twentyman has been blown away by Abdullah's performance this offseason and was particularly struck by the "burst" he showed during OTAs. He also complimented Abdullah's versatility, calling him the best" two-way back" on Detroit's roster. Abdullah's first two seasons didn't go as planned but the former second-round pick could be in for a breakout year now that he's finally healthy.
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Drafted him that year and again last year in my keeper / redraft league ... as well as most of my dynasty leagues. Disappointed to say the least.
Really puts a dampener on any chance of success when an early pick doesn't produce.
If the dang guy could just stay healthy for a season. I still think he could put up solid numbers. Top 10 RB (in a PPR) and maybe crack the top 5.
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(Rotoworld) Lions.com reporter Tim Twentyman said the Lions are a "different offense" with Ameer Abdullah.
Analysis: Twentyman has been blown away by Abdullah's performance this offseason and was particularly struck by the "burst" he showed during OTAs. He also complimented Abdullah's versatility, calling him the best" two-way back" on Detroit's roster. Abdullah's first two seasons didn't go as planned but the former second-round pick could be in for a breakout year now that he's finally healthy.
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
Big fan of Aaron Jones. I like what I see with Williams but Jones seems like a more complete back. I'd probably stay away from any this year unless PPR then I'd grab Ty. Jones has some crazy talent.
I was concerned as a packer fan that Detroit finally found a great RB. He was a steal TBH. I still think he is.
I was encouraged that his first game last year he had 5 receptions... Riddick still concerns me because he has proven he can be big in the passing game, but Abdullah has the talent to be a receiving back... not sure how that shakes out, but it'll be fun to watch.
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Tau837
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
Happy to provide some comic reliefJust Win Baby said:
That's why I don't understand the know it all reference... if anything I couldn't care less what people on a message board think about me- clearly- I make many errors in my typing.
I don't need to be a know it all, nor do I try to be. If I come across as such it's because I may be very knowledgeable about a particular topic and like to educate people to weed out the false narratives or beliefs that are put out there regarding some things. No different than FF Ninja calling me out on my false perception of Ameer's college injury history. It's very possible that I do know a lot about a particular topic, so if it comes across as know-it-all-ish then I can't really help how people feel when they read what I say; no one can make you feel anything, if you feel inferior that's your issue not mine.
Now back to Ameer
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So now you're of the belief that you make others on the board feel inferior because of how intelligently (you believe) you express your opinions? Good Lord. You should have stopped with your initial ridiculous statement.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
No, just saying that if what I write comes off know-it-all-ish and makes people feel inferior that's not really my problem. If I'm educated in a topic would you prefer I dumb it down or share that knoweledge with all?
But whatever, you win. I'm a jack ###. I couldn't care less to be honest. Many people appreciate some of the insight that I say here, so I'll keep providing it. Some have me blocked and that's fine too. If pepole take this message board so seriously they can't just gather all the information possible, someone's personality rubs them the wrong way so they hold it against him... well then that's their problem and they will utlimately suffer because of it. I may not agree with a lot of posters or their personalities but I take what they have to say and I still give it weight. And it works for me. I find a lot of help in these forums. Just trying to return it. If someone can't get around how I deliver it, again, that's not my problem.
But if you need to win, you win. There. Now we can move on and get back to a specific player.
Hey man, the more opinions on this board the better IMO. I appreciate your take on things. But the fact that you believe you make others feel inferior based upon how intelligently you (believe you) write is pure idiocy. That's all. That you feel that way is one thing, to verbalize it is another. For your own good, just stop. Though you seem to not care you're definitely coming across horribly, and I can guarantee that what people are feeling isn't anything close to inferiority.
As to your second point, agreed.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I've heard they plan on getting them both on the field as much as possible, Theo as the slot WR & AA as the main RB. Idea is to create matchup problems for defenses to cover both.
Curious to know how using a rb as a slot wr is creating match up problems? Wouldn't a slot wr be better as a slot wr? It's not like if they keep AA and Riddick in the backfield teams are going 9 in the box. They will go nickel.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
And it's officially June. I heard about the first team that will have 2 rbs on the field at the same time. I've never seen it happen yet but I hear it every year at this time.
joey
Footballguy
ha! was going to type the same exact thing.
There's always 1 or 2 teams who say that they have 2 RBs that are so good that they want to get them on the field at the same time to create mismatches. When has that ever turned out to actually be true?
(waiting for the awesome hive mind databank that is the Shark Pool to reply with a few real life examples cuz I'm sure there's 1 or 2. I just bet it's super rare).
The obvious example for me is Warrick Dunn and Mike Alstott. The fact that I have to go back that far to think of an example is pretty much evidence that it doesn't happen enough to matter.
I recall someone asking Bill Cowher about playing his RB1 and RB2 at the same time, and he basically looked like the questioner was a moron and asked why in the world he should replace his fullback with a lesser lead blocker...
So true. And I don't expect it to happen in Detroit, but since Theo is basically just a small WR and Detroit didn't re-sign their slot WR from last year, I think it is more possible than situations like getting DeMarco Murray and Derrick Henry on the field at the same time (the most recent example I can think of that was hyped, but didn't happen).
To my knowledge, never.
Alstott was a fullback.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Wasn't Sproles used often in the slot?FF Ninja said:
I feel like I recall the Packers playing the Eagles and Sproles being in the slot for several plays creating a nightmare mismatch versus AJ Hawk who couldn't cover my mother-in-law- or someone else equally bad... AJ Hawk was ages ago
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In New Orleans? Yes, but he would start out in the backfield and go in motion (if my memory is correct). To my knowledge, he was rarely used as a slot WR while another RB was on the field. The question wasn't if a running back ever manned the slot, it was if teams ever genuinely deployed two RBs in the same formation with any regularity.
