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Yeah, I've never been on the Yeldon bandwagon. I don't like his running style and body type for the NFL and was surprised he went as high as he did.
So basically you are stuck in confirmation bias mode?
You also completely ignored the part about his situation.Don't get me wrong, I like Abdullah better from a talent perspective too. But his situation simply isn't as good as Yeldon's.
The Jags were dead last in offense last year per profootballreference...I guess I'm failing to see how Yeldon's situation is better.
It is certainly possible that Ameer doesn't successfully transition to the NFL, but the key difference between him and Gio in my mind is Ameer's much better strength numbers. If we compare combine stats, Ameer had 24 bench reps to Gio's 19 (still very respectable), but more importantly Ameer's leg strength numbers were WAY better than Gio. Ameer had a 42.5" vertical to Gio's 33.5" and Ameer had a 130" broad jump to Gio's 122" broad jump. They're roughly the same size, but Ameer has much more power packed into his frame.Banger said:
Also ... and I like Gio ... he's simply a better runner than Gio from the film I've seen.
Are you referring to 5th overall pick in a rookie draft or 5th rounder in a redraft?
Mid 5th is his ADP in PPR leagues according to FFC. I would rather take him there (5.3 to 5.6 range) than pass and have to deal with the leftovers at 6.7+ (Blount, Vereen, then later Crowell, Ivory, etc.).
I wonder how much work Yeldon will get once the Jags get out of the locker room at halftime and are trailing by double digits.
I mean, Denard Robinson had some pretty nice value late in the season before he went down. It's not impossible for Yeldon to star there, and maybe not even that unlikely if Bortles improves and the defense can even be passable.
Depends if he's truly their 3 down back and plays in all situations. I don't care if he's running the ball or catching out of the backfield.
Barry Sanders would still be a stud today. Not that Ameer is Sanders, but a strong elusive back who can avoid tacklers can be an effective everydown back despite the size.
I don't know what the average was but the top rushers in 2000 were:6-0 220
I don't think size is Bernard's problem. He's just not an elite runner.Banger said:
thanks
Heh, I actually talked about both my comparison of Ameer to Barry Sanders and Ameer's size in relation to downward trend of RB size in the NFL earlier in the thread if you're curious.
Yeah, every young RB that comes through Detroit gets crazy hype: Kevin Jones, Kevin Smith, LeShoure, Best and now Ameer. Most have only teased us with elite fantasy production.
He was a monster though.
Yep, he was awesome briefly, Smith and Jones flashed as well. His rookie year, I think Jones had something like 900 yards and 5 TDs over the second half of the year and was projected by many to be the next big thing at RB.
What mocks are you using? Fantasy Football calculator, he goes in the 5th of 12 team PPR drafts. The other mocks like Yahoo he goes later.
Fantasy Pros which I believe averages all the major sites together has him in the late 7th for standard.
Fantasypros you are probably looking at a general list that doesn't reflect recent drafts and it also includes Yahoo/ESPN, etc. In the high stake contests he gets drafted in the 5th. You can look at high stakes recent drafts and it will show that Ameer goes in the 5th. I believe this is due to the competition level. A player like Ameer or Charles Johnson get drafted earlier in high stake contests because the managers are better are recognizing his potential value. It can also be because people take more risks in tournaments because they are playing to try to win a big prize instead of the normal places in a league.
