RB Ameer Abdullah, LV (2 Viewers)

[humpback]

To be fair, Bush was never 100% last year which may have impacted how he was used.

Sure it may have, although he wasn't really healthy in 2013 either. In any event, he said "probably something similar to Reggie Bush the past couple years", I was just pointing out that there is a big difference between those two years.

It may have? bush led the team in RB touches and yards for 4 out of 5 games to start the year. Then health was a factor ROS:http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2014/11/13/detroit-lions-reggie-bush-ankle/18973373/

I never said distribution could never change - not sure why you would think that - only said that Lions have a pretty good idea how they're going to use him at the present time and I'll stick with my assertion that it's similar to how they would have used a healthy Bush last year.

Yes, it may have, or it may have been their plan all along considering Bell had more carries than Bush in each of the 1st 3 games of the season when they were both healthy (we're talking about his role as the leading rusher, so using touches instead of carries is a red herring)- he was also leading in game 4 until he left with an injury . Regardless, it doesn't really matter why his role changed, just that it did. He went from #1A in 2013 to #1B (or even #2) in 2014. Those are very different roles and result in a very different number of carries.

How they "would have used a healthy Bush last year" is really speculation, but based on the carry distribution at beginning of the season when he was healthy, it was a lot less than the year prior. That's pretty much the point in a nutshell- I can see Ameer getting as few as 6-8 carries per game, or as many as 15, and that's all TBD. I'm sure thy have a pretty good idea what role they want him in now, but it could easily change based on how the competition plays out. Not sure how that's even debatable considering all of the unknowns they have at the RB position (including Ameer himself), but let's agree to disagree and move on.

 

[Zyphros]

This backfield looks like it's Zenner and Abdullah for the next 4 years. Think of Gio/Hill in Hill's rookie year. They both pass the eye test with flying colors to me and I kind of doubt Joique gets any significant playing time this year, assuming 1 or both of them can pass block with a slightest hint of effectiveness. Bell was slow and plodding last year, I can only image how horrible he's going to look this year with his injury and another year older. I'm taking my dart throw's with Zenner everywhere I can because he looks legit.

Are you completely discounting Riddick? I think the ZZ2K hype is off the train.

Yes I am. He's a JAG when it comes down to talent around him. Riddick is easily replaced by a better athlete with a better skillset in Abdullah. ZZ just looks like he belongs. I'm not ready to anoint him the starting RB job while guaranteeing 1000yds or anything, but he's shown extremely well so far this year and I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of role he gets.

 

[Da Gildz]

I think Abdullah will be a rock solid RB2 in PPR. Think he'll catch 50+ balls with around 400 yds receiving. Give him another 150 carries for ~ 650 yds. Now up to 1,050 total yds, 50+ rec's, ~ 6-8 scores.

That's 180-200 Pts or 11-13 ppg. Probably even conservative there with that projection.

 

[ryno1980]

To be fair, Bush was never 100% last year which may have impacted how he was used.

Sure it may have, although he wasn't really healthy in 2013 either. In any event, he said "probably something similar to Reggie Bush the past couple years", I was just pointing out that there is a big difference between those two years.

It may have? bush led the team in RB touches and yards for 4 out of 5 games to start the year. Then health was a factor ROS:http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2014/11/13/detroit-lions-reggie-bush-ankle/18973373/

I never said distribution could never change - not sure why you would think that - only said that Lions have a pretty good idea how they're going to use him at the present time and I'll stick with my assertion that it's similar to how they would have used a healthy Bush last year.

Yes, it may have, or it may have been their plan all along considering Bell had more carries than Bush in each of the 1st 3 games of the season when they were both healthy (we're talking about his role as the leading rusher, so using touches instead of carries is a red herring)- he was also leading in game 4 until he left with an injury . Regardless, it doesn't really matter why his role changed, just that it did. He went from #1A in 2013 to #1B (or even #2) in 2014. Those are very different roles and result in a very different number of carries.How they "would have used a healthy Bush last year" is really speculation, but based on the carry distribution at beginning of the season when he was healthy, it was a lot less than the year prior. That's pretty much the point in a nutshell- I can see Ameer getting as few as 6-8 carries per game, or as many as 15, and that's all TBD. I'm sure thy have a pretty good idea what role they want him in now, but it could easily change based on how the competition plays out. Not sure how that's even debatable considering all of the unknowns they have at the RB position (including Ameer himself), but let's agree to disagree and move on.

No we're actually not talking about their usage as the leading rusher. Receptions are obviously a crucial part of the RB role we are discussing. And I think you're jut not grasping the idea that bush didn't recover from his injury and so didn't et the ball because he wasn't effective. But there's no point in discussing that any more. if you agree that they already have a good idea how they're going to use him, then there's nothing to disagree about as far as that goes. As someone else said, every day in the NFL is a competition.

 

[sho nuff]

I like Abdullah in PPR...other leagues though...the hype has his value too high and Bell's injury worries me. Seems like a situation to avoid for me unless the hype dies enough before my draft next week.

 

[humpback]

To be fair, Bush was never 100% last year which may have impacted how he was used.

Sure it may have, although he wasn't really healthy in 2013 either. In any event, he said "probably something similar to Reggie Bush the past couple years", I was just pointing out that there is a big difference between those two years.

It may have? bush led the team in RB touches and yards for 4 out of 5 games to start the year. Then health was a factor ROS:http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2014/11/13/detroit-lions-reggie-bush-ankle/18973373/

I never said distribution could never change - not sure why you would think that - only said that Lions have a pretty good idea how they're going to use him at the present time and I'll stick with my assertion that it's similar to how they would have used a healthy Bush last year.

Yes, it may have, or it may have been their plan all along considering Bell had more carries than Bush in each of the 1st 3 games of the season when they were both healthy (we're talking about his role as the leading rusher, so using touches instead of carries is a red herring)- he was also leading in game 4 until he left with an injury . Regardless, it doesn't really matter why his role changed, just that it did. He went from #1A in 2013 to #1B (or even #2) in 2014. Those are very different roles and result in a very different number of carries.How they "would have used a healthy Bush last year" is really speculation, but based on the carry distribution at beginning of the season when he was healthy, it was a lot less than the year prior. That's pretty much the point in a nutshell- I can see Ameer getting as few as 6-8 carries per game, or as many as 15, and that's all TBD. I'm sure thy have a pretty good idea what role they want him in now, but it could easily change based on how the competition plays out. Not sure how that's even debatable considering all of the unknowns they have at the RB position (including Ameer himself), but let's agree to disagree and move on.

No we're actually not talking about their usage as the leading rusher. Receptions are obviously a crucial part of the RB role we are discussing. And I think you're jut not grasping the idea that bush didn't recover from his injury and so didn't et the ball because he wasn't effective. But there's no point in discussing that any more.if you agree that they already have a good idea how they're going to use him, then there's nothing to disagree about as far as that goes. As someone else said, every day in the NFL is a competition.

Yes, we are talking about their usage as a rusher- no one is really disputing that he'll have a large role in the passing game and you said "he isn't competing for carries". Reggie's role as a receiver didn't change much between those years, but as a rusher it certainly did. I already showed how Bush was getting far fewer carries in 2014 before he was injured, but you're right that there's no point in discussing that any more- the role change is pretty obvious regardless of the reasons for it.

As far as the bolded, the reason I replied was because you said:

No, he's not competing for carries.

You can change your mind and say he is competing for carries or we can agree to disagree, but that's what I thought was way off base.

 

[Judge Smails]

in standard leagues - meh...

 

[Da Gildz]

in standard leagues - meh...

Agreed. He's basically Gio-esque. But Joique is nowhere as good as Hill. neither Gio/Abdullah will be much of anything in non-PPR.

 

[TripItUp]

in standard leagues - meh...

yeah, the value is gone...ppr value is there if he slides some.

 

[One]

Putting my money on Bell/Abdullah. Rookie hype is always out of control, but I could see AA working out. ...but 2 rookies taking over the offense? Huge long shot. Bell sounds like he'll be back and looked good 2nd half of last season. I just can't write him off yet.

 

[Wonderllama]

Drafted Ameer 52th overall in a 14 teamer. Feels good.

 

[Kenny Powers]

in standard leagues - meh...

Agreed. He's basically Gio-esque. But Joique is nowhere as good as Hill. neither Gio/Abdullah will be much of anything in non-PPR.

RB3's are usually worth something

 

[BobbyLayne]

Was shocked he was there for the 69th pick (6.09.) Felt like a pretty good value.

 

[Gopher State]

I think it's hard to discount Zenner's production with the carries he's had. That guy looks like the one to own in fantasy leagues. Ameer will do well in the bush role but Zenner could be a stud and an absolute steal at fantasy drafts.

Good posting Zenner has earned some carries, but at who's expense , I think he takes carries away from Ameer. Bell will get the goal work making this a full blown rbbc.

 

[ryno1980]

[quote name="humpback" post="18310391Reggie's role as a receiver didn't change much between those years, but as a rusher it certainly did. I already showed how Bush was getting far fewer carries in 2014 before he was injured, but you're right that there's no point in discussing that any more- the role change is pretty obvious regardless of the reasons for it.

As far as the bolded, the reason I replied was because you said:

No, he's not competing for carries.

You can change your mind and say he is competing for carries or we can agree to disagree, but that's what I thought was way off base.

The lions went from the 6th ranked offense in total yards to 19th last year, picking up 40 less first downs. Bush averaged 10 carries the first four games down from his average of 16 the year before. The offense stalled with Johnson out or not 100 percent. Had the offense remained closed to the 2013 level, with a healthy Bush and Johnson, his attempts per game would have been closer to 15 than 10.

So the Abdullah role is likely how they envisioned a healthy and effective Reggie in a high functioning offense. That's a big key here, Stanford and Johnson playing at a high level to create more attempts and reception opportunities for the backfield. There wAs 49 more rushing attempts for the team in 2013 than 14.

No I didn't change my mind. They have a committee of backs that will share carries and catch passes. I'm sure they already plan on giving Abdullah a significant number of them. I guess u disagree.

 

[humpback]

The lions went from the 6th ranked offense in total yards to 19th last year, picking up 40 less first downs. Bush averaged 10 carries the first four games down from his average of 16 the year before. The offense stalled with Johnson out or not 100 percent. Had the offense remained closed to the 2013 level, with a healthy Bush and Johnson, his attempts per game would have been closer to 15 than 10.

So the Abdullah role is likely how they envisioned a healthy and effective Reggie in a high functioning offense. That's a big key here, Stanford and Johnson playing at a high level to create more attempts and reception opportunities for the backfield. There wAs 49 more rushing attempts for the team in 2013 than 14.

No I didn't changed mind. They have a committee of backs that will share carries and catch passes. I'm sure they already plan on giving Abdullah a significant number of them. I guess u disagree.

Talking about the full season is another red herring. You're claiming his injuries caused his reduced role, so to test that theory we should look at the games prior to his injury. In week 1, Bell had 15 carries vs. 9 for Bush. In week 2, it was 10 for Bell vs. 6 for Bush. Week 3 Bell led 15 to 12. Week 4 is when Bell got hurt, so we won't count it (it was 8 carries for Bell vs. 3 for Bush after 3 qtrs when he came out of the game), and then Bush got hurt the following week. Calvin was healthy for all 3 of those first games, and they actually ran the ball at a slightly higher rate in those 3 games than they did in 2013, so both of those arguments are bunk. You can keep speculating what would have happened if this or that would have been different, but there's zero evidence to support it. They clearly reduced Bush's role in 2014, even prior to his injuries, prior to Calvin's injuries, and when they were running the ball at the same rate as 2013. I'm sure you'll try to come up with yet another excuse for it, but I won't waste anymore time disproving them.

You're so all over the place that I don't think even you know what you're saying anymore about if it's a competition or not, but for the sake of everyone else in this thread, congrats, you win.

 

[ryno1980]

The lions went from the 6th ranked offense in total yards to 19th last year, picking up 40 less first downs. Bush averaged 10 carries the first four games down from his average of 16 the year before. The offense stalled with Johnson out or not 100 percent. Had the offense remained closed to the 2013 level, with a healthy Bush and Johnson, his attempts per game would have been closer to 15 than 10.

So the Abdullah role is likely how they envisioned a healthy and effective Reggie in a high functioning offense. That's a big key here, Stanford and Johnson playing at a high level to create more attempts and reception opportunities for the backfield. There wAs 49 more rushing attempts for the team in 2013 than 14.

No I didn't changed mind. They have a committee of backs that will share carries and catch passes. I'm sure they already plan on giving Abdullah a significant number of them. I guess u disagree.

Talking about the full season is another red herring. You're claiming his injuries caused his reduced role, so to test that theory we should look at the games prior to his injury. In week 1, Bell had 15 carries vs. 9 for Bush. In week 2, it was 10 for Bell vs. 6 for Bush. Week 3 Bell led 15 to 12. Week 4 is when Bell got hurt, so we won't count it (it was 8 carries for Bell vs. 3 for Bush after 3 qtrs when he came out of the game), and then Bush got hurt the following week. Calvin was healthy for all 3 of those first games, and they actually ran the ball at a slightly higher rate in those 3 games than they did in 2013, so both of those arguments are bunk. You can keep speculating what would have happened if this or that would have been different, but there's zero evidence to support it. They clearly reduced Bush's role in 2014, even prior to his injuries, prior to Calvin's injuries, and when they were running the ball at the same rate as 2013. I'm sure you'll try to come up with yet another excuse for it, but I won't waste anymore time disproving them.You're so all over the place that I don't think even you know what you're saying anymore about if it's a competition or not, but for the sake of everyone else in this thread, congrats, you win.

Not trying to win anything. Nor am I coming up with excuses. Why would I? I already explained in my previous post how they reduced bush's role by about 5.9 carries per game. if the Lions go from a top 6 offense to a bottom 10 one, that hurts running back production. And clearly Johnsons ability wasn't at a peak level for games right after his injury. That affects the run game. I thought you would agree that the passing game stepping back up a notch would help Abdullah and whomever else is involved in the committee.

 

[motoclube]

Drafted AA in the 7th round (66th overall) in a 10 team league.

 

[SameSongNDance]

12-team PPR keeper league (keep 2) took him with my 33rd pick in the 3rd (which is essentially the equivalent of a 5th rounder). I feel pretty good about it seeing as how the next backs off the board with JStew, Yeldon, Martin, Vereen. At this point were all just banking on his talent as the volume is capped.

 

[karmarooster]

I think it's hard to discount Zenner's production with the carries he's had. That guy looks like the one to own in fantasy leagues. Ameer will do well in the bush role but Zenner could be a stud and an absolute steal at fantasy drafts.

Good posting Zenner has earned some carries, but at who's expense , I think he takes carries away from Ameer. Bell will get the goal work making this a full blown rbbc.

Isn't ZZ going to take up the Bell role, not the COP? Dude is 223 pounds. Although I admit the only Lions preseason RB carry I've seen was THE carry by AA.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I think it's hard to discount Zenner's production with the carries he's had. That guy looks like the one to own in fantasy leagues. Ameer will do well in the bush role but Zenner could be a stud and an absolute steal at fantasy drafts.

Good posting Zenner has earned some carries, but at who's expense , I think he takes carries away from Ameer. Bell will get the goal work making this a full blown rbbc.

Isn't ZZ going to take up the Bell role, not the COP? Dude is 223 pounds. Although I admit the only Lions preseason RB carry I've seen was THE carry by AA.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this is so hard to comprehend for some. Bell/Zenner/Winn and Ameer/Theo have two completely sperate functions in this backfield. If Zenner ascends it will come at the expense of Bell, not Ameer.

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

I think it's hard to discount Zenner's production with the carries he's had. That guy looks like the one to own in fantasy leagues. Ameer will do well in the bush role but Zenner could be a stud and an absolute steal at fantasy drafts.

Good posting Zenner has earned some carries, but at who's expense , I think he takes carries away from Ameer. Bell will get the goal work making this a full blown rbbc.

Isn't ZZ going to take up the Bell role, not the COP? Dude is 223 pounds. Although I admit the only Lions preseason RB carry I've seen was THE carry by AA.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this is so hard to comprehend for some. Bell/Zenner/Winn and Ameer/Theo have two completely sperate functions in this backfield. If Zenner ascends it will come at the expense of Bell, not Ameer.

I'm not sure I agree with your role assumptions. I for one think AA can be the workhorse.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I think it's hard to discount Zenner's production with the carries he's had. That guy looks like the one to own in fantasy leagues. Ameer will do well in the bush role but Zenner could be a stud and an absolute steal at fantasy drafts.

Good posting Zenner has earned some carries, but at who's expense , I think he takes carries away from Ameer. Bell will get the goal work making this a full blown rbbc.

Isn't ZZ going to take up the Bell role, not the COP? Dude is 223 pounds. Although I admit the only Lions preseason RB carry I've seen was THE carry by AA.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this is so hard to comprehend for some. Bell/Zenner/Winn and Ameer/Theo have two completely sperate functions in this backfield. If Zenner ascends it will come at the expense of Bell, not Ameer.

I'm not sure I agree with your role assumptions. I for one think AA can be the workhorse.

I think Lombardi plans to keep him in the Sproles role unless Ameer's play absolutely forces him to keep him on the field. The thing is, I'm not too much worried about his volume in this offense. Even on 12-15 touches a game I think he can put up some very nice PPR numbers.

 

[EBF]

I'm not sure I agree with your role assumptions. I for one think AA can be the workhorse.

It's definitely possible. He had a relatively high workload in college with no major injuries. Averaged over 20 carries per game his final two seasons.

Either way, I am bullish. Took him with the 39th pick of my redraft league tonight. One trait that I value in RBs is the ability to "get small" and weave through tight spaces. It seems to me that even the good tall backs (such as Peterson) have this quality, whereas the guys who lack flexibility and agility to redirect in small windows struggle (such as Andre Williams). It's part of what I liked about Branden Oliver at Buffalo and, while he hasn't been phenomenal in the NFL, he has exceeded expectations given that he was a UDFA.

Ameer has that quality in spades. He can make yards out of nothing with his agility and elasticity. Here is a great example:

https://youtu.be/QRZn_wVHFXI?t=18s

Stoked to see him play during the regular season. I think he can be the most exciting offensive rookie in the league.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

8 carries for bell and the rest for abdullah is flat out ridiculous.

 

[humpback]

I think it's hard to discount Zenner's production with the carries he's had. That guy looks like the one to own in fantasy leagues. Ameer will do well in the bush role but Zenner could be a stud and an absolute steal at fantasy drafts.

Good posting Zenner has earned some carries, but at who's expense , I think he takes carries away from Ameer. Bell will get the goal work making this a full blown rbbc.

Isn't ZZ going to take up the Bell role, not the COP? Dude is 223 pounds. Although I admit the only Lions preseason RB carry I've seen was THE carry by AA.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this is so hard to comprehend for some. Bell/Zenner/Winn and Ameer/Theo have two completely sperate functions in this backfield. If Zenner ascends it will come at the expense of Bell, not Ameer.

I'm not sure I agree with your role assumptions. I for one think AA can be the workhorse.

I think Lombardi plans to keep him in the Sproles role unless Ameer's play absolutely forces him to keep him on the field. The thing is, I'm not too much worried about his volume in this offense. Even on 12-15 touches a game I think he can put up some very nice PPR numbers.

Sproles has averaged under 7 touches per game on offense for his career, only once reaching double digits for the season. There was a big difference between the roles of Sproles and Bush in 2013, for example. There is so much uncertainty with this backfield right now that I can see him carving out either of those roles depending on how things shake out.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Abdullah went 1.4 in our rookie/FA draft Saturday night, after Gurley, Gordon and Cooper.

 

[DeaLerZ]

So what are everyone's thoughts on Abdullah now with the news of Joique Bell coming back to practice this week. Still looking at around 10-15 touches a game, PPR value.

He definitely passes the eye ball test, and there is still no certainty that Joique Bell is football ready, or potentially even able to be effective when he does play due to recent surgeries

 

[Alex P Keaton]

So what are everyone's thoughts on Abdullah now with the news of Joique Bell coming back to practice this week. Still looking at around 10-15 touches a game, PPR value.

He definitely passes the eye ball test, and there is still no certainty that Joique Bell is football ready, or potentially even able to be effective when he does play due to recent surgeries

I see him getting 8-10 carries a game, 3-5 catches per game. Roughly.

 

[cstu]

Does this guy have the nickname 'King' yet?

 

[beef]

Does this guy have the nickname 'King' yet?

He's a prince.

 

[One]

Saw AA go RB23, Bell go RB28 in one of my drafts, FWIW.

Even if Bell assumes the Mule role, the AA pick seems worth the price.

 

[tangfoot]

Saw AA go RB23, Bell go RB28 in one of my drafts, FWIW.

Even if Bell assumes the Mule role, the AA pick seems worth the price.

Johan Franzen?

 

[Sammy B]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2560002-insider-buzz-abdullah-expected-to-have-more-significant-role-than-bell-riddick

Ameer Abdullah is set to be the new feature back in Detroit.

How many touches should Abdullah expect every week? How will the Detroit Lions implement Joique Bell and Theo Riddickinto their running game?

Bleacher Report NFL Insider Jason Cole breaks down the Lions running back situation in the video above.

 

[ahartig]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2560002-insider-buzz-abdullah-expected-to-have-more-significant-role-than-bell-riddick

Ameer Abdullah is set to be the new feature back in Detroit.

How many touches should Abdullah expect every week? How will the Detroit Lions implement Joique Bell and Theo Riddickinto their running game?

Bleacher Report NFL Insider Jason Cole breaks down the Lions running back situation in the video above.

How much of inside Buzz does this Jason Cole from bleacher report get? Is that article just click-bait or actually reliable?

 

[Sammy B]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2560002-insider-buzz-abdullah-expected-to-have-more-significant-role-than-bell-riddick

Ameer Abdullah is set to be the new feature back in Detroit.

How many touches should Abdullah expect every week? How will the Detroit Lions implement Joique Bell and Theo Riddickinto their running game?

Bleacher Report NFL Insider Jason Cole breaks down the Lions running back situation in the video above.

How much of inside Buzz does this Jason Cole from bleacher report get? Is that article just click-bait or actually reliable?

I follow Bleacher Report for a few sports, just use it as another source. Never had a problem with the site. As far as credentials and reliability are concerned, I tend not to believe anything until it actually happens. Figured I'd just post it. Take it for what it's worth I guess.

 

[Ilov80s]

I would listen to the Lions beat reporters before a guy from BR.

 

[Wrigley]

Starting with confidence week 1

 

[jon_mx]

Starting with confidence week 1

That is pretty ballsy. But he is the back to own in Detroit. I think he has a reasonably high floor, so a solid flex spot.

 

[mcintyre1]

I would listen to the Lions beat reporters before a guy from BR.

While I do agree that beat writers are often the best source of info, Jason Cole has decent credentials as far as I've been able to tell. He's been an NFL reporter for 2+ decades, covered the Dolphins for a local paper for 15 years, and was co-author of the investigative report that blew up USC's football program.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Starting with confidence week 1

That is pretty ballsy. But he is the back to own in Detroit. I think he has a reasonably high floor, so a solid flex spot.

Haha, how is it ballsy? So far, the consensus ranks him at RB16 for week 1 making him a solid RB2 (PPR). He's still ranked RB24 in standard. Unless you're in an 10-team standard, start 2RB no flex league he is not a ballsy start.

 

[LawFitz]

Not ballsy except that he's a rookie in his first NFL game. He's starting for me but I'm always thin at RB2 so it's not a stretch call.

SSD, pls make sure you do your looks and touches thread this year!

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Starting with confidence week 1

That is pretty ballsy. But he is the back to own in Detroit. I think he has a reasonably high floor, so a solid flex spot.

Yes, definitely the best back there, it's just a matter of how much the best in terms of playing time & production.

 

[jon_mx]

Starting with confidence week 1

That is pretty ballsy. But he is the back to own in Detroit. I think he has a reasonably high floor, so a solid flex spot.

Haha, how is it ballsy? So far, the consensus ranks him at RB16 for week 1 making him a solid RB2 (PPR). He's still ranked RB24 in standard. Unless you're in an 10-team standard, start 2RB no flex league he is not a ballsy start.

His ranking is based on potential. He is a rookie and Bell is the established starter. So even if he does pass Bell as the season progresses, the first few games might be dicey as far as touches go.

 

[Wrigley]

Starting with confidence week 1

That is pretty ballsy. But he is the back to own in Detroit. I think he has a reasonably high floor, so a solid flex spot.

What can I say, he's L Bells week 1 fill in

 

[SameSongNDance]

Not ballsy except that he's a rookie in his first NFL game. He's starting for me but I'm always thin at RB2 so it's not a stretch call.

SSD, pls make sure you do your looks and

touches thread this year!

For sure, hopefully well find another 2013 keenan allen.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Starting with confidence week 1

That is pretty ballsy. But he is the back to own in Detroit. I think he has a reasonably high floor, so a solid flex spot.

Haha, how is it ballsy? So far, the consensus ranks him at RB16 for week 1 making him a solid RB2 (PPR). He's still ranked RB24 in standard. Unless you're in an 10-team standard, start 2RB no flex league he is not a ballsy start.

His ranking is based on potential. He is a rookie and Bell is the established starter. So even if he does pass Bell as the season progresses, the first few games might be dicey as far as touches go.

Sorry for the double post but my phone is ####. Bell being the established starter is irrelevant to the rankings. Its very possible that AA can put up rb2 numbers sharing the workload. He's going to be so damn efficient on his touches that volume isn't and will never be my concern.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Not ballsy except that he's a rookie in his first NFL game. He's starting for me but I'm always thin at RB2 so it's not a stretch call.

SSD, pls make sure you do your looks and

touches thread this year!

For sure, hopefully well find another 2013 keenan allen.

Allen Robinson...bank on it

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

FBG calls Zenner a possible RB2 or flex this year, suggesting a fall from grace for Ameer. I'm not sure we have clarity here yet.

 

[jon_mx]

FBG calls Zenner a possible RB2 or flex this year, suggesting a fall from grace for Ameer. I'm not sure we have clarity here yet.

I think that more suggests the fall of Bell. Detroit could have two decent RB2 guys, Ameer and Bell or Zenner.