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NFL Network is saying he is QUESTIONABLE and a GTD.

Limited today per John Czarnecki?

Brian Westbrook practiced for two days and even though head coach Andy Reid says his star running back was held out merely as a precautionary measure, FOXSports insider John Czarnecki advised readers this morning it was more than that.

According to "the Czar," Westbrook's right knee became inflamed again in the wake of two consecutive days of work, forcing him to miss Friday's practice.

Czarnecki went on to suggest that Westbrook is expected to play a limited role.

I'd take it with a grain of salt but I know how the panic crowd here needs their Sunday morning info....

 
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BrentBlack said:
Brian Westbrook practiced for two days and even though head coach Andy Reid says his star running back was held out merely as a precautionary measure, FOXSports insider John Czarnecki advised readers this morning it was more than that.According to "the Czar," Westbrook's right knee became inflamed again in the wake of two consecutive days of work, forcing him to miss Friday's practice.Czarnecki went on to suggest that Westbrook is expected to play a limited role.I'd take it with a grain of salt but I know how the panic crowd here needs their Sunday morning info....
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According to local sportstalk radio here in Philly yesterday, they held Westy out of Friday's practice because they were practicing on turf and didn't want to take the chance of the knee swelling up.Earlier in the week, Marty Morninweig (spelling) said Westbrook would have an expanded role this week. I dont recall the source, though.Czarnecki is saying stuff I have not heard at all and I live in Philadelphia. There was nothing in the paper today or on radio yesterday saying he'd be very limited or anything.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Westbrook plays a limited role. Not so much because of swelling in his knee, but, more likely, because the Saint's turf is the worst in the league.

It's very sponge and soft, and that's not a good thing for a player with a shaky knee.

 
ReallyABasketballCoach said:
BrentBlack said:
Brian Westbrook practiced for two days and even though head coach Andy Reid says his star running back was held out merely as a precautionary measure, FOXSports insider John Czarnecki advised readers this morning it was more than that.According to "the Czar," Westbrook's right knee became inflamed again in the wake of two consecutive days of work, forcing him to miss Friday's practice.Czarnecki went on to suggest that Westbrook is expected to play a limited role.I'd take it with a grain of salt but I know how the panic crowd here needs their Sunday morning info....
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According to local sportstalk radio here in Philly yesterday, they held Westy out of Friday's practice because they were practicing on turf and didn't want to take the chance of the knee swelling up.Earlier in the week, Marty Morninweig (spelling) said Westbrook would have an expanded role this week. I dont recall the source, though.Czarnecki is saying stuff I have not heard at all and I live in Philadelphia. There was nothing in the paper today or on radio yesterday saying he'd be very limited or anything.
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agree. i live 10 blocks rom the stadium. I have not heard anything like this. Westbrook could do a lot of damage in one half.
 
Keep in mind that Czarnecki was the guy last week insisting that Caddy still had a hernia issue so it appears that he attended the School of ESPN Reporting.

 
NEWSFLASH: Westbrooks knee is really skrewed up!

Seriously, he is such a dice roll this week - especially knowing how Reid keeps an eye towards division games - most of which are in a brutal stretch at the end of the season.

With #5 spreading the ball so effectively this year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid gameplan to this more soon and start resting his Star RB more for divisionally significant games and the playoffs.

Also, IMO if Vegas thought Westbrook was playing, I think the line would be higher as the Saints have been shuffling their secondary.

Reid knows he needs Westbrook for the last leg of the season and a Superbowl run. I would think he has to start holding him back in some capacity to keep him for later when he will need him.

Wish I could have helped more. Least I gave it a bump!

 
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Hairy Snowman said:
NEWSFLASH: Westbrooks knee is really skrewed up!

Seriously, he is such a dice roll this week - especially knowing how Reid keeps an eye towards division games - most of which are in a brutal stretch at the end of the season.

With #5 spreading the ball so effectively this year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid gameplan to this more soon and start resting his Star RB more for divisionally significant games and the playoffs.

Also, IMO if Vegas thought Westbrook was playing, I think the line would be higher as the Saints have been shuffling their secondary.

Reid knows he needs Westbrook for the last leg of the season and a Superbowl run. I would think he has to start holding him back in some capacity to keep him for later when he will need him.

Wish I could have helped more. Least I gave it a bump!
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Vegas just makes lines that will attract an equal amount of bets on each sides. People bet with the current available info: Westbrook will probably play, but his knee hurts. So the Vegas lines are set based on that info. They usually don't know something bettors don't.
 
His status would have to be changed to: Out (dead) for me to bench him.

Don't overreact based on what one moron writes, people.

 
Has this guy Czarnecki been right on anything yet? If he is off by 180 degrees again this week then he should be kept off the boards until he proves to actually have accurate info. When he uses his 30 seconds of TV time to spew a few things he has thinks may be true, then he's a FF players worst nightmare.

 
Islander said:
Hairy Snowman said:
NEWSFLASH: Westbrooks knee is really skrewed up!

Seriously, he is such a dice roll this week - especially knowing how Reid keeps an eye towards division games - most of which are in a brutal stretch at the end of the season.

With #5 spreading the ball so effectively this year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid gameplan to this more soon and start resting his Star RB more for divisionally significant games and the playoffs.

Also, IMO if Vegas thought Westbrook was playing, I think the line would be higher as the Saints have been shuffling their secondary.

Reid knows he needs Westbrook for the last leg of the season and a Superbowl run. I would think he has to start holding him back in some capacity to keep him for later when he will need him.

Wish I could have helped more. Least I gave it a bump!
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Vegas just makes lines that will attract an equal amount of bets on each sides. People bet with the current available info: Westbrook will probably play, but his knee hurts. So the Vegas lines are set based on that info. They usually don't know something bettors don't.
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Actually, they don't. But I'm not going to argue the point. There are some good threads on this subject within this forum though.
 
JuniorNB said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Westbrook plays a limited role. Not so much because of swelling in his knee, but, more likely, because the Saint's turf is the worst in the league.

It's very sponge and soft, and that's not a good thing for a player with a shaky knee.
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My understanding is that they completely replaced the whole field before the reopening. Does this even still hold true?
 
I do recall the MNF crew saying that the turf in the Superdome wouldn't be broken in until the end of the year, thus I would think that Westbrook is already out on the turf testing it to see how it feels.

If there is any doubt, I could see Andy Reid making a decision after he has eaten his 4th beniet as to Westy's status.

 
Ducegonads said:
Has this guy Czarnecki been right on anything yet? If he is off by 180 degrees again this week then he should be kept off the boards until he proves to actually have accurate info. When he uses his 30 seconds of TV time to spew a few things he has thinks may be true, then he's a FF players worst nightmare.
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:goodposting: Every week it seems there is a thread where this guy throws something out there as fact hours before anyone will really know the truth. This happened last year, too. It almost seems he'll throw anything out there early, so if it sticks he can say he had the scoop first. If I see his name attached to a news item, I immediately look for confirmation elsewhere.
 
FoxSports.com's John Czarnecki reports that Brian Westbrook could play a limited role in Sunday's game.

Westbrook missed practice Friday. The Czar has about a 65% completion percentage with his Sunday morning missives, so take this news with a grain of salt. While it's a concern, it's impossible to bench the No. 1 fantasy running back against the Saints if he's starting.

http://www.rotoworld.com/default.aspx

 
Tecumseh said:
JuniorNB said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Westbrook plays a limited role. Not so much because of swelling in his knee, but, more likely, because the Saint's turf is the worst in the league.

It's very sponge and soft, and that's not a good thing for a player with a shaky knee.
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My understanding is that they completely replaced the whole field before the reopening. Does this even still hold true?
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Yeah. Still true.I heard Rhonde Barber (who played there last week) say that it is the worst in the league.

It's the kind of turf with a bottom layer made of granulated tires, and he said that it feels very loose under-foot.

 
JuniorNB said:
Tecumseh said:
JuniorNB said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Westbrook plays a limited role. Not so much because of swelling in his knee, but, more likely, because the Saint's turf is the worst in the league.

It's very sponge and soft, and that's not a good thing for a player with a shaky knee.
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My understanding is that they completely replaced the whole field before the reopening. Does this even still hold true?
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Yeah. Still true.I heard Rhonde Barber (who played there last week) say that it is the worst in the league.

It's the kind of turf with a bottom layer made of granulated tires, and he said that it feels very loose under-foot.
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The field turf in question is loose feeling when it is brand new.My former college team just had the turf put in this year.

The first thing I noticed was that it felt like you were standing on sand. The turf did have alot of give to it and could still be pulled up in small spots. It definitely takes time to settle in.

 
Nobody in the NFL will take a game in the SuperDome ligtly after that Monday night game - the Saints play inspired football there as anyone would expect. And McNabb is playing that way too as he is out to prove -and is doing so - who THE SUCK was last year.

I doubt Reid as an experienced coach is too worried about anything other than getting the win and getting back home - one loss can have a devastating effect on a team as the line betweeen good and bad is very thin.

If he is healthy enough to play - he'll play and play until the game is either won or lost. Reports are that he is healthy.

And Westy runs on the same turf in Philly - not as new as the NO turf but the same stuff.

 
I'm not worried about this at all, again, as posted ealier, the only way I sit him is if he's downgraded from Questionable. Ain't happenin'.

 
Ducegonads said:
Has this guy Czarnecki been right on anything yet? If he is off by 180 degrees again this week then he should be kept off the boards until he proves to actually have accurate info. When he uses his 30 seconds of TV time to spew a few things he has thinks may be true, then he's a FF players worst nightmare.
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I'm in a league with Czar. We're scheduled to play this week, and I have Westbrook, so I guess that article was aimed at me. I wouldn't worry about it if I were the rest of you.I'm obviously kidding, but with some of the gems he's produced, there may be some truth hidden in there.
 
Actually, they don't.
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This is exactly right. It's a common misperception that Vegas sets the line based on equalizing bets, but it's wrong.Vegas sets the iniital line based on their best estimate of the result of the game. If they did anything else, they'd get killed by the high-dollar professional bettors in the early betting each week.During the week, they will move the line to try to equalize what betting has gone on, that much is true. But the initial line reflects an assessment of who will win, not a guess at what bettors will do.
 
Hairy Snowman said:
Islander said:
Hairy Snowman said:
NEWSFLASH: Westbrooks knee is really skrewed up!

Seriously, he is such a dice roll this week - especially knowing how Reid keeps an eye towards division games - most of which are in a brutal stretch at the end of the season.

With #5 spreading the ball so effectively this year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid gameplan to this more soon and start resting his Star RB more for divisionally significant games and the playoffs.

Also, IMO if Vegas thought Westbrook was playing, I think the line would be higher as the Saints have been shuffling their secondary.

Reid knows he needs Westbrook for the last leg of the season and a Superbowl run. I would think he has to start holding him back in some capacity to keep him for later when he will need him.

Wish I could have helped more. Least I gave it a bump!
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Vegas just makes lines that will attract an equal amount of bets on each sides. People bet with the current available info: Westbrook will probably play, but his knee hurts. So the Vegas lines are set based on that info. They usually don't know something bettors don't.
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Actually, they don't. But I'm not going to argue the point. There are some good threads on this subject within this forum though.
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Sure, you can't argue when you are wrong :D Have you ever worked for a sportsbook?

Either you misunderstood the threads you are talking about, or they contain bad information.

 
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infantsam said:
Nobody in the NFL will take a game in the SuperDome ligtly after that Monday night game - the Saints play inspired football there as anyone would expect. And McNabb is playing that way too as he is out to prove -and is doing so - who THE SUCK was last year.

I doubt Reid as an experienced coach is too worried about anything other than getting the win and getting back home - one loss can have a devastating effect on a team as the line betweeen good and bad is very thin.

If he is healthy enough to play - he'll play and play until the game is either won or lost. Reports are that he is healthy.

And Westy runs on the same turf in Philly - not as new as the NO turf but the same stuff.
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WrongThe Link is natural grass

 
Czarnecki was also the one last week who published the reports saying that Westbrook needed surgery.

The Eagles and Westbrook have said he is suffering from a bone bruise, a problem that often results in swelling because articular cartilage flakes off and causes irritation. Last week, two sports orthopedists told the Daily News that if rest didn't resolve the swelling, arthrosopic surgery could be in the offing. Yesterday, Fox's John Czarnecki upped the ante by reporting that the Eagles were concerned Westbrook might need microfracture surgery after the season. Microfracture surgery is an extremely serious procedure that has had mixed results with NFL players - some, such as Carolina running back DeShaun Foster, have come back and played well afterward. Others, such as former Eagles safety Rashard Cook, have never returned.

In any event, Westbrook said yesterday that no surgery - arthroscopic, microfracture or otherwise - is on the horizon.

"Really, the only people that know what's going on are me and some of the doctors I've seen," said Westbrook, who has practiced rarely since the second week of the season. "Any report from anybody outside of that circle, you've got to question the source."

Westbrook then specifically denied that microfracture surgery or surgery in general has been discussed. Eagles coach Andy Reid also denied that microfracture surgery might be necessary.
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http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports...ailynews_sportsETA - This surgery report was BEFORE the Cowboys game.

 
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infantsam said:
Nobody in the NFL will take a game in the SuperDome ligtly after that Monday night game - the Saints play inspired football there as anyone would expect. And McNabb is playing that way too as he is out to prove -and is doing so - who THE SUCK was last year.

I doubt Reid as an experienced coach is too worried about anything other than getting the win and getting back home - one loss can have a devastating effect on a team as the line betweeen good and bad is very thin.

If he is healthy enough to play - he'll play and play until the game is either won or lost. Reports are that he is healthy.

And Westy runs on the same turf in Philly - not as new as the NO turf but the same stuff.
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Wrong again
 
I know that every game is important in the NFL, but does the fact that this is an NFC game make it more likely that Westy will play? The Saints are proving to be a good football team and we all saw what happened with Atlanta.

 
Werder just said on ESPN News that McNabb "expects to have Westbrook in the lineup but officially he's a GTD"

 
Limp Ditka said:
infantsam said:
Nobody in the NFL will take a game in the SuperDome ligtly after that Monday night game - the Saints play inspired football there as anyone would expect. And McNabb is playing that way too as he is out to prove -and is doing so - who THE SUCK was last year.

I doubt Reid as an experienced coach is too worried about anything other than getting the win and getting back home - one loss can have a devastating effect on a team as the line betweeen good and bad is very thin.

If he is healthy enough to play - he'll play and play until the game is either won or lost. Reports are that he is healthy.

And Westy runs on the same turf in Philly - not as new as the NO turf but the same stuff.
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WrongThe Link is natural grass
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Thank God. That turf they had was the worst in the history of sports. Cost Wendell Davis (among others) a promising career.
 
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