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RB BACKUPS THAT WOULD PRODUCE TOP 10 NUMBERS IF THE PRIMARY RB GOES (1 Viewer)

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Macdaddy_2004

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Every year I like to swipe a few RB's that would produce significan't numbers if the primary ball carrier gets hurt.

Anyone who took Larry Johnson two seasons ago knows what I am talking about

RB's who may produce top 10 numbers if the primary goes down

1. Michael Turner - SD

2. Michael Robinson - SF

3. Adrian Peterson - Chi

4. DeAngelo Williams - CAR

5. MJD - JAXS

Can you add to this list - argue for or against these players named ?

 
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Macdaddy_2004 said:
Every year I like to swipe a few RB's that would produce significan't numbers if the primary ball carrier gets hurt.Anyone who took Larry Johnson two seasons ago knows what I am talking aboutRB's who may produce top 10 numbers if the primary goes down1. Michael Turner - SD2. Michael Robinson - SF3. Adrian Peterson - Chi4. DeAngelo Williams - CAR5. MJD - JAXSCan you add to this list - argue for or against these players named ?
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Robinson, no way.MJD is already a top 10 RB.But back to the point.Betts? Hello? Clearly the most proven backup in the league (sorry Turner owners).Norwood if Dunn goes down?Droughns? Iffy.
 
Would like to hear support for Robinson.

Frank Gore >> Robinson IMO and Norv Turner is gone which I expect to slightly impact Gore's numbers for 2007. On limited carries (38), Robinson averaged 3.3 ypc as well.

Marion Barber could crack the top 10 if he was getting 75% of the RB touches on offense based on what he did as their #2 (or 1b)

 
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I was under the impression a player had to have TALENT to produce top 10 numbers, not just be 2nd string...(see Maurice Morris)

 
zadok said:
I was under the impression a player had to have TALENT to produce top 10 numbers, not just be 2nd string...(see Maurice Morris)
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I was high on Morris for ceveral years and in his starts last season I saw nothing special. He was an FA I believe and had no takers so he re-signed with Seattle. I certainly wouldn't expect good numbers from him if SA went down.
 
DOVCommish said:
Leon Washington
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I'm a Washington fan - why not.
DeDe Dorsey
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What has Dorsey ever done to demonstrate he can be a top 10 RB? Just being a Colt doesn't mean anything.
Maurice Morris (though the star has faded a bit)
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NO. He has never produced and he had ample opportunity to when Alexander was out.
 
mad sweeney said:
zadok said:
I was under the impression a player had to have TALENT to produce top 10 numbers, not just be 2nd string...(see Maurice Morris)
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I was high on Morris for ceveral years and in his starts last season I saw nothing special. He was an FA I believe and had no takers so he re-signed with Seattle. I certainly wouldn't expect good numbers from him if SA went down.
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I agree.MoMo isn't even a handcuff candidate IMHO.
 
I think the number is very low when you consider who the presumed top 10 are now, and who their backups are.

I would guess only Turner or Betts strike me as guys that could fill in top 10 shoes and put up top 10 numbers themselves.

 
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mad sweeney said:
zadok said:
I was under the impression a player had to have TALENT to produce top 10 numbers, not just be 2nd string...(see Maurice Morris)
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I was high on Morris for ceveral years and in his starts last season I saw nothing special. He was an FA I believe and had no takers so he re-signed with Seattle. I certainly wouldn't expect good numbers from him if SA went down.
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I agree, that's what I meant. Morris can't cut it.
 
In PPR leagues I think M. Pittman would produce near top 10 numbers. Before Caddy gobbled up the carries, Pittman was a pretty good player in PPR leagues.

 
Macdaddy_2004 said:
Every year I like to swipe a few RB's that would produce significan't numbers if the primary ball carrier gets hurt.

Anyone who took Larry Johnson two seasons ago knows what I am talking about

RB's who may produce top 10 numbers if the primary goes down

1. Michael Turner - SD

2. Michael Robinson - SF

3. Adrian Peterson - Chi

4. DeAngelo Williams - CAR

5. MJD - JAXS

Can you add to this list - argue for or against these players named ?
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Foster will be D-Wills backup this year.. :shock:
 
Macdaddy_2004 said:
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Macdaddy_2004 said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Macdaddy_2004 said:
4. DeAngelo Williams - CAR
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Huh? DW will be starting without needing an injury to Foster in '07.
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You sure about that ?
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I am confident in reaching that conclusion. Yes.
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:shock:
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I didnt say it had happend already. I said "in '07" and it wouldnt need an injury to happen.Might take place in the full camps or preseason. But the team wont just dis(card) Foster and upset anyone.
 
duaneok66 said:
easy pick . . . the backup to Addai; Dorsey or whomever it actually is . ..
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Not necessarily, as we don't know how good/bad Dorsey (or whoever) is. Situation isn't everything, as we've seen with the aforementioned Maurice Morris.
 
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Macdaddy_2004 said:
Every year I like to swipe a few RB's that would produce significan't numbers if the primary ball carrier gets hurt.Anyone who took Larry Johnson two seasons ago knows what I am talking aboutRB's who may produce top 10 numbers if the primary goes down1. Michael Turner - SD
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As I recall LJ went in around the 5th round that year.....Where do you see Turner going and how do the situations compare?I know people don't agree but, to me the situations are the same.... Priest's injury was a Fluke that can happen to anyone and to me MT is proven enough.I realize Priest was injured the year before but, to me any and every back is a minor tweak away from being on the sidleines.I still don't think people are going to jump for MT as they did for LJ - I have a feeling I'll own a lot of MT by the time the drafts come along....
 
Reaper said:
Macdaddy_2004 said:
Every year I like to swipe a few RB's that would produce significan't numbers if the primary ball carrier gets hurt.Anyone who took Larry Johnson two seasons ago knows what I am talking aboutRB's who may produce top 10 numbers if the primary goes down1. Michael Turner - SD
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As I recall LJ went in around the 5th round that year.....Where do you see Turner going and how do the situations compare?I know people don't agree but, to me the situations are the same.... Priest's injury was a Fluke that can happen to anyone and to me MT is proven enough.I realize Priest was injured the year before but, to me any and every back is a minor tweak away from being on the sidleines.I still don't think people are going to jump for MT as they did for LJ - I have a feeling I'll own a lot of MT by the time the drafts come along....
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The Cheifs let it be known that LJ was going to be getting a lot more carries than the normal backup that season. True, he wouldn't have gotten the huge numbers if Priest hadn't gone down, but he was actually getting some good yards & TD's before Holmes even got hurt. His situation is very different than MT, who is more of a true backup. The Chiefs were using like a 70/30 RBBC that year pre-Priest's injury.
 
Reaper said:
Macdaddy_2004 said:
Every year I like to swipe a few RB's that would produce significan't numbers if the primary ball carrier gets hurt.Anyone who took Larry Johnson two seasons ago knows what I am talking aboutRB's who may produce top 10 numbers if the primary goes down1. Michael Turner - SD
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As I recall LJ went in around the 5th round that year.....Where do you see Turner going and how do the situations compare?I know people don't agree but, to me the situations are the same.... Priest's injury was a Fluke that can happen to anyone and to me MT is proven enough.I realize Priest was injured the year before but, to me any and every back is a minor tweak away from being on the sidleines.I still don't think people are going to jump for MT as they did for LJ - I have a feeling I'll own a lot of MT by the time the drafts come along....
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To you MT is proven enough? I'm glad you workout with him, but he's not proven.Larry Johnson in the last 6 games of 2004 (started 3 of them) he ran for 541 yards and 11 TDs. Yes double the TDs MT has in 3 years. So lets not even compare the kind of smack LJ laid on the NFL during his spot duty. MT crushed youtube. LJ crushed the NFL. With LJ you can look at NFL starts, TDs, yardage, his catches, over full games, back to back games.MT is a cuff. That's it. He's a little better cuff then Morris, but not by much. He has little to no value in redraft, and MT won't be a viable starter in FF unless LT goes down with injury. So no, that doesn't sound like a 5th round pick to me.LJ/Holmes were RBBC in 2005. That's a far cry from MT this year. Holmes/LJ is now Portis/Betts. Betts proved him self last year, it's more of an RBBC, and if Portis goes down Betts is going to put up 1,500 yards in his sleep.And as other people have pointed out, in the biggest game of the year last year, the FB got more touches then MT. Doesn't sound like a guy who's about to burst on the scene in the NFL. If you can't beat out Lorenzo Neal for touches in the biggest playoff game of the year, you're a cuff.
 
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These are going to be in no particluar order...

1. Michael Turner: Best OL in football, has lots of weapons around as well. It would seem he could put up lofty numbers if he was called upon.

2. Maurice Jones Drew: He came close last year. IF Fred Taylor suddenly couldn't go at all and MJD was assured 15-20 carries a game to go with all his catches...would stand to reason he could put up super numbers. MJD is not a true back up in any sense of the word though.

3. Ladell Betts: Almost already know it to be true.

4. MB III/Julius Jones: Take your pick...if one went down the other would pick up all those yds, catches, and rushing TD.

5. Correll Buckhalter: Laugh all you want...he wa very effective in his limited touches last season. Injuries are behind him, look for an increased role from him this season anyways. 230 lb back btw.

6. Tatum Bell: If Kevin Jones is going to be out, look for Bell to be open out of the backfield with the excellent trio of WR Detroit already has...and how exactly are teams going to defend the run double covering Calvin Johnson and Roy Williams???

7. Deuce McAllister/Reggie Bush: Again if one or the other were to go down, the numbers for the remaining back would be huge.

8. Jerious Norwood: Seems like he only needs a chance. Has a decent OL...if Vick misses time you can cross Norwood off the list IMO.

9. DeAngelo/DeShaun: If either gets a DeHammy or a DePull than the other could prove to be most valuable. I think DeAngelo is the starter by week 1 however.

10. Brian Leonard: If SJax went down I would expect good things from the rookie. he can catch, run, he just might end up on the field.

Some good teams with lousy or mediocre back ups...

NewEngland: Not a fan for Sammy Morris other than off the bench

NY Jets: Leon Washington makes me :wub:

Indianapolis: DeDe Dorsey sets deep in the I....

Denver: Mike Bell is not the answer

Great thread topic. Something I always think about when drafting a RB early is who is the back up, when would I have to draft him, and what would he do if thrust into the line up...I love these types of threads.

 
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This thread has degraded to a "name every backup in the league" thread. Some of these guys should not even be on this list. DeDe Dorsey hasn't proven anything, and there's a good chance he might not even be the backup (Kenton Keith or a FA like Chris Brown might be the guy).

 
toxicbees said:
This thread has degraded to a "name every backup in the league" thread. Some of these guys should not even be on this list. DeDe Dorsey hasn't proven anything, and there's a good chance he might not even be the backup (Kenton Keith or a FA like Chris Brown might be the guy).
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As I wote a few posts ago..."Some good teams with lousy or mediocre back ups...NewEngland: Not a fan for Sammy Morris other than off the benchNY Jets: Leon Washington makes me :blackdot: Indianapolis: DeDe Dorsey sets deep in the I....Denver: Mike Bell is not the answer"
 
Ministry of Pain said:
5. Correll Buckhalter: Laugh all you want...he wa very effective in his limited touches last season. Injuries are behind him, look for an increased role from him this season anyways. 230 lb back btw.8. Jerious Norwood: Seems like he only needs a chance. Has a decent OL...if Vick misses time you can cross Norwood off the list IMO. NewEngland: Not a fan for Sammy Morris other than off the bench
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Buckhalter would replace Westbrook is Westy went down. He came back strong from his injuries last year. Hunt is a turd, but still may steel short-yard carries. If you categorize Norwood as a backup, he is one. Atlanta has had a tremendous running attack the last few years and Petrino likes bigger backs. I like Norwood to be the starter. Sammy Morris was huge for me in making the playoffs with a first round bye last year. Maroney's shoulder is not yet healed. With the respect defenses need to give the new-found WRs, I think Morris could be a top 10 if called upon. If McGahee went down, I think Musa Smith would get the load. He is often over-looked but has recovered from his injuries as well and beat out Mike Anderson for #2 to Jamal Lewis last year.
 
zamboni said:
duaneok66 said:
easy pick . . . the backup to Addai; Dorsey or whomever it actually is . ..
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Not necessarily, as we don't know how good/bad Dorsey (or whoever) is. Situation isn't everything, as we've seen with the aforementioned Maurice Morris.
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You can't compare the two situations . . .Last year, Seattle had serious OL problems, Jones wasn't 100%, you know that Hutchinson left, and the right side was a mess . . . compare that to Indy, who probably has one of the most stable offensive situations in recent history . . . add that to the fact that the safeties almost always play 80 yards off the line of scrimmage, and you have and intstant fantasy factor with whomever they put back there (unless it's Barlow, LOL) . . .
 
toxicbees said:
This thread has degraded to a "name every backup in the league" thread. Some of these guys should not even be on this list. DeDe Dorsey hasn't proven anything, and there's a good chance he might not even be the backup (Kenton Keith or a FA like Chris Brown might be the guy).
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so you'd let the Indy backup sit on the waiver wire the week after Addai (hypothetically) goes down??
 
duaneok66 said:
toxicbees said:
This thread has degraded to a "name every backup in the league" thread. Some of these guys should not even be on this list. DeDe Dorsey hasn't proven anything, and there's a good chance he might not even be the backup (Kenton Keith or a FA like Chris Brown might be the guy).
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so you'd let the Indy backup sit on the waiver wire the week after Addai (hypothetically) goes down??
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Do you think DeDe Dorsey would finish top 10 in '07 if Addai tore his acl right now? I don't.
 
duaneok66 said:
toxicbees said:
This thread has degraded to a "name every backup in the league" thread. Some of these guys should not even be on this list. DeDe Dorsey hasn't proven anything, and there's a good chance he might not even be the backup (Kenton Keith or a FA like Chris Brown might be the guy).
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so you'd let the Indy backup sit on the waiver wire the week after Addai (hypothetically) goes down??
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Read the title of this thread again. It's not about whether he'd be on the waiver wire. I just don't see him being a top 10 back if Addai goes down, my point even further is that he might not even be the eventual backup to Addai.<denny green voice>It's way too early to crown him, but if you want to crown him, then crown him.</denny green voice>
 
Fullback Fro said:
duaneok66 said:
toxicbees said:
This thread has degraded to a "name every backup in the league" thread. Some of these guys should not even be on this list. DeDe Dorsey hasn't proven anything, and there's a good chance he might not even be the backup (Kenton Keith or a FA like Chris Brown might be the guy).
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so you'd let the Indy backup sit on the waiver wire the week after Addai (hypothetically) goes down??
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Do you think DeDe Dorsey would finish top 10 in '07 if Addai tore his acl right now? I don't.
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:shrug: it pretty much comes down to Turner, and Betts.
 
thayman said:
Fullback Fro said:
duaneok66 said:
toxicbees said:
This thread has degraded to a "name every backup in the league" thread. Some of these guys should not even be on this list. DeDe Dorsey hasn't proven anything, and there's a good chance he might not even be the backup (Kenton Keith or a FA like Chris Brown might be the guy).
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so you'd let the Indy backup sit on the waiver wire the week after Addai (hypothetically) goes down??
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Do you think DeDe Dorsey would finish top 10 in '07 if Addai tore his acl right now? I don't.
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:thumbup: it pretty much comes down to Turner, and Betts.
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ok, I admit, not top 10, but top 20 is a distinct possibility . . .
 
What do you guys think about Mewelde Moore? I know he's not a back-up now but he was, and I think he is an UFA after this season I believe. If acquired now, will he pay dividends in '08 or '09 ? (if picked up by anybody next spring) :thumbup:

 
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