RB Bijan Robinson, ATL (1 Viewer)

[Ilov80s]

I don't think #13 seasonal is crazy. It's low, sure. But nothing crazy.

Especially when you consider the offense and ? at QB. Atlanta could be a team that plays very slowly and struggles to score points. I wouldn't even be surprised to see them be cautious with Bijan-especially the 2nd half of the year if they fall out of the playoff hunt.

Their schedule is soft though it’s gonna be nearly impossible to be out of the division hunt. I think Ridder is garbage but if (when) Heinicke gets the nod mid season, he will elevate that offense. He’s not good but he can keep it moving.

Yeah the division and schedule helps but I don’t have to squint to hard to see Atlanta sitting at 3-6 entering their bye.
Losses to GB, DET, JAX, WASH, MIN seem very possible. Then CAR, HOU, TEN, TB are very winnable but they probably drop one of them.

 

[NoCheese]

Here’s the way I see it:

Pros:

High draft capital
Elite talent
Excellent offensive line
Weak division/soft schedule
Arthur Smith commitment to running

Cons:

Other capable RB’s on roster
Weak QB’s limits offense output

There is some risk there for sure, but I can’t imagine the Falcons drafted Bijan at 8th overall to give him 10-12 carries a game. I suspect he will finish the season with 300 total touches and if I had to guess I think the division of labor in carries is:

Bijan - 65%
Allgeier - 25%
Patterson - 10%

Having both Bijan and Allgeier on the roster frees up Patterson to line up more as a WR now. I think Bijan will finish around RB4-RB5.

 

[Da Franchise]

I don't think #13 seasonal is crazy. It's low, sure. But nothing crazy.

Especially when you consider the offense and ? at QB. Atlanta could be a team that plays very slowly and struggles to score points. I wouldn't even be surprised to see them be cautious with Bijan-especially the 2nd half of the year if they fall out of the playoff hunt.

Their schedule is soft though it’s gonna be nearly impossible to be out of the division hunt. I think Ridder is garbage but if (when) Heinicke gets the nod mid season, he will elevate that offense. He’s not good but he can keep it moving.

Yeah the division and schedule helps but I don’t have to squint to hard to see Atlanta sitting at 3-6 entering their bye.
Losses to GB, DET, JAX, WASH, MIN seem very possible. Then CAR, HOU, TEN, TB are very winnable but they probably drop one of them.

Yep. Enter Heinicke…

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't think #13 seasonal is crazy. It's low, sure. But nothing crazy.

Especially when you consider the offense and ? at QB. Atlanta could be a team that plays very slowly and struggles to score points. I wouldn't even be surprised to see them be cautious with Bijan-especially the 2nd half of the year if they fall out of the playoff hunt.

Their schedule is soft though it’s gonna be nearly impossible to be out of the division hunt. I think Ridder is garbage but if (when) Heinicke gets the nod mid season, he will elevate that offense. He’s not good but he can keep it moving.

Yeah the division and schedule helps but I don’t have to squint to hard to see Atlanta sitting at 3-6 entering their bye.
Losses to GB, DET, JAX, WASH, MIN seem very possible. Then CAR, HOU, TEN, TB are very winnable but they probably drop one of them.

Yep. Enter Heinicke…

Yeah maybe he’s something. Went .500 at Washington though they also didn’t want him back.

 

[Da Franchise]

I don't think #13 seasonal is crazy. It's low, sure. But nothing crazy.

Especially when you consider the offense and ? at QB. Atlanta could be a team that plays very slowly and struggles to score points. I wouldn't even be surprised to see them be cautious with Bijan-especially the 2nd half of the year if they fall out of the playoff hunt.

Their schedule is soft though it’s gonna be nearly impossible to be out of the division hunt. I think Ridder is garbage but if (when) Heinicke gets the nod mid season, he will elevate that offense. He’s not good but he can keep it moving.

Yeah the division and schedule helps but I don’t have to squint to hard to see Atlanta sitting at 3-6 entering their bye.
Losses to GB, DET, JAX, WASH, MIN seem very possible. Then CAR, HOU, TEN, TB are very winnable but they probably drop one of them.

Yep. Enter Heinicke…

Yeah maybe he’s something. Went .500 at Washington though they also didn’t want him back.

I’m a Skins fan, saw him closely. Again, he’s not good or anything, doesn’t have an nfl arm, but he’s capable of running that offense much better than Mariota or last years version of Ridder were…by a lot. He raises the stat floor of their best players.

I’m presuming Ridder stinks and he gets the nod by the bye week at worst. Or Ridder improves, which also works.

It was hard to bring him back in Wash because Rivera is on the hot seat and he knows Heinicke isn’t good enough to save his job. And having him as a backup is a problem because he’s got a cult following with the fans and teammates like him too much to give Howell enough room. So, they made a token effort but it was never really in play.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

I have to smile at those speculating that Atlanta didn't sign Bijan to "only give him 10-12 carries a week". This is the Falcons here. Currently wasting Kyle Pitts' career with a succession of garbage QBs and poor usage. I mean, yeah, it's logical to say he'll get run a lot but again, this is a pretty dysfunctional franchise, i'd be careful with expectations.

 

[Rookiefever]

Not familiar with "fantasy index"

Back in the day, it was the best fantasy football magazine year in and year out - I have not read a fantasy football magazine in 10 years now though. Maybe they have a website?

Side note, man do I miss these days. I was thinking about this yesterday.

I started playing fantasy I think around 2009. Back before it completely exploded and everyone and their grandma had a fantasy football podcast, there was no better feeling than walking into the local grocery store in April or May and seeing that they had the new fantasy football magazines out. Reading that thing cover to cover hoping to acquire even the slightest edge over your leaguemates that didn’t take fantasy nearly as serious you did

Those were the days.

Now we’re related to yearly subscriptions or bad takes on Twitter lol.

 

[NoCheese]

Certainly possible he will struggle but the comparison to Pitts being “wasted” is simply irrelevant. Pitts had 1000 yards his rookie year which is almost unheard of for a rookie and was injured a good chunk of his 2nd year with absolute trash throwing the ball to him. Plus, the Falcons skewed very run heavy and Allgeier ran for 1000 yards. If Bijan is significantly better than Allgeier which I think is safe to say then I see no reason he can’t be and won’t be a top 5-6 RB.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Certainly possible he will struggle but the comparison to Pitts being “wasted” is simply irrelevant. Pitts had 1000 yards his rookie year which is almost unheard of for a rookie and was injured a good chunk of his 2nd year with absolute trash throwing the ball to him. Plus, the Falcons skewed very run heavy and Allgeier ran for 1000 yards. If Bijan is significantly better than Allgeier which I think is safe to say then I see no reason he can’t be and won’t be a top 5-6 RB.

I’m honestly going to be shocked if he’s outside the top 10, barring an injury of course. Historically, rookie rbs drafted as high as he has have smashed in their rookie seasons. Hell, even Trent Richardson had a great fantasy year his rookie season. And Bijan is one of the most talented guys we’ve seen at the position in the last couple decades.

 

[Keith1]

Still a looong way to go before draft day, but if we assume that the first 5 picks (in no particular order) in a 0.5 point PPR league are: McCaffrey, Jefferson, Chase, Ekeler and Kupp, is Bijan worthy of pick # 6 ?? Over guys like Kelce, Hill, Barkley, etc... I will be mulling on that one during the dog days of summer. LOL

 

[Dez]

Still a looong way to go before draft day, but if we assume that the first 5 picks (in no particular order) in a 0.5 point PPR league are: McCaffrey, Jefferson, Chase, Ekeler and Kupp, is Bijan worthy of pick # 6 ?? Over guys like Kelce, Hill, Barkley, etc... I will be mulling on that one during the dog days of summer. LOL

Depends on what site. If you are drafting on underdog which is 0.5 PPR you assumed wrong on the top 5 picks as Ekeler ADP is 8.4 and I have seen him go in the 2nd round at times. His ADP was around 11 early on before he worked out something with his contract. Bijan ADP is 9.8 right now.

 

[Keith1]

Still a looong way to go before draft day, but if we assume that the first 5 picks (in no particular order) in a 0.5 point PPR league are: McCaffrey, Jefferson, Chase, Ekeler and Kupp, is Bijan worthy of pick # 6 ?? Over guys like Kelce, Hill, Barkley, etc... I will be mulling on that one during the dog days of summer. LOL

Depends on what site. If you are drafting on underdog which is 0.5 PPR you assumed wrong on the top 5 picks as Ekeler ADP is 8.4 and I have seen him go in the 2nd round at times. His ADP was around 11 early on before he worked out something with his contract. Bijan ADP is 9.8 right now.

Not underdog. Just in general really. I guess the question is whether Bijan is worth the reach in the mid 1st. FFPC has the first four as I listed them.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Still a looong way to go before draft day, but if we assume that the first 5 picks (in no particular order) in a 0.5 point PPR league are: McCaffrey, Jefferson, Chase, Ekeler and Kupp, is Bijan worthy of pick # 6 ?? Over guys like Kelce, Hill, Barkley, etc... I will be mulling on that one during the dog days of summer. LOL

Yes he is worthy.

 

[Bri]

Henry would often be pushed hard one day in camp, then the next working with some staff on the sidelines.

I wouldn't be surprised if Arthur did something like this with Bijan. Gotta push the kid but also keep him fresh to run him a lot in season

Also, (if then) the next man up working in his place needs context- what type of offense were they working on? If it's a largely passing day and Avery is playing more than Algeier that just means what you know- scat back probably plays more than Tyler in the passing game.

Just...might play out this way, wanted to say beforehand as like a heads-up to not overreact.

 

[Bri]

Still a looong way to go before draft day, but if we assume that the first 5 picks (in no particular order) in a 0.5 point PPR league are: McCaffrey, Jefferson, Chase, Ekeler and Kupp, is Bijan worthy of pick # 6 ?? Over guys like Kelce, Hill, Barkley, etc... I will be mulling on that one during the dog days of summer. LOL

Depends on what site. If you are drafting on underdog which is 0.5 PPR you assumed wrong on the top 5 picks as Ekeler ADP is 8.4 and I have seen him go in the 2nd round at times. His ADP was around 11 early on before he worked out something with his contract. Bijan ADP is 9.8 right now.

Not underdog. Just in general really. I guess the question is whether Bijan is worth the reach in the mid 1st. FFPC has the first four as I listed them.

Been there done that, didn't like it, but I'd probably do it again.
I'm the proud owner of two injured McCaffrey seasons and with a mindset of not taking anyone recently seriously injured or injury risks.
I've seen Ekeler go "too high" per rankings and I completely understand the pick there too. (Plus he's been a gem so what's the issue)

Bijan is less risk than Barkley in that moment. I absolutely love Barkley and everyone in the first but when it comes down to the sheer confidence of a pick I've been going Bijan.

Hypocrite I know, but I'd probably project better stats for Barkley too

 

[Faust]

Bijan Robinson Fantasy Profile for 2023

 

[Grahamburn]

I have to smile at those speculating that Atlanta didn't sign Bijan to "only give him 10-12 carries a week". This is the Falcons here. Currently wasting Kyle Pitts' career with a succession of garbage QBs and poor usage. I mean, yeah, it's logical to say he'll get run a lot but again, this is a pretty dysfunctional franchise, i'd be careful with expectations.

Hence drafting TEs and RBs in the top 10.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Certainly possible he will struggle but the comparison to Pitts being “wasted” is simply irrelevant. Pitts had 1000 yards his rookie year which is almost unheard of for a rookie and was injured a good chunk of his 2nd year with absolute trash throwing the ball to him. Plus, the Falcons skewed very run heavy and Allgeier ran for 1000 yards. If Bijan is significantly better than Allgeier which I think is safe to say then I see no reason he can’t be and won’t be a top 5-6 RB.

Respectfully, I don't think it's irrelevant at all. It's at least arguable empirical evidence of a franchise misusing and (potentially wasting) extremely high draft capital, which Pitts and Robinson have in common. I'm not dissing 1000 yards either, as a rookie it's impressive for that position. On the flip side, it's about 60 yards a week over a full season. With Pitts' physical talent, it'd be tough to not throw to him for that amount.

All that said, i'm going to contradict myself slightly and say that I think Bijan will be run plenty and will likely do well. I was just initially urging caution really at him being drafted like a slam dunk mid-first rounder in redraft, while playing for such a dysfunctional franchise that has shown a propensity to misuse talent.

 

[pinkstapler]

Certainly possible he will struggle but the comparison to Pitts being “wasted” is simply irrelevant. Pitts had 1000 yards his rookie year which is almost unheard of for a rookie and was injured a good chunk of his 2nd year with absolute trash throwing the ball to him. Plus, the Falcons skewed very run heavy and Allgeier ran for 1000 yards. If Bijan is significantly better than Allgeier which I think is safe to say then I see no reason he can’t be and won’t be a top 5-6 RB.

Respectfully, I don't think it's irrelevant at all. It's at least arguable empirical evidence of a franchise misusing and (potentially wasting) extremely high draft capital, which Pitts and Robinson have in common. I'm not dissing 1000 yards either, as a rookie it's impressive for that position. On the flip side, it's about 60 yards a week over a full season. With Pitts' physical talent, it'd be tough to not throw to him for that amount.

All that said, i'm going to contradict myself slightly and say that I think Bijan will be run plenty and will likely do well. I was just initially urging caution really at him being drafted like a slam dunk mid-first rounder in redraft, while playing for such a dysfunctional franchise that has shown a propensity to misuse talent.

I'd have to agree, I feel like the 1/2 turn is the place for him. I just have a hard time taking him over higher percentage picks like Barkley, Hill, Diggs, or even Lamb. He could certainly score better than any/all of them and I wouldn't be surprised. I'd just rather give up 20-30 fantasy points over the course of a season than risk a rookie underperforming. I'd say my breaking point may be Taylor. I seriously worry about the impact ARich will have on not only his rushing, but his receiving. Probably go Bijan over Taylor right now. I'm also admittedly a cautious first round drafter and aim much more for higher floor than higher ceiling with those picks.

 

[Faust]

James Palmer @JamesPalmerTV

A rookie that is buzzing? How about #falcons RB Bijan Robinson. But don’t call him a running back. Think of him as an offensive weapon. My report on @NFLTotalAccess on @nflnetwork

https://twitter.com/jamespalmertv/status/1678810392917839872?s=21

 

[Faust]

Zareh Kantzabedian @ZKantzFF
The Atlanta Falcons ranked 7th in targets to running backs, with Desmond Ridder at QB.

The man loves to check it down.

https://twitter.com/zkantzff/status/1678960041058250752?s=21

 

[Faust]

Will Bijan Robinson Be an Instant Star for Fantasy Football in 2023?

 

[Faust]

Bijan Robinson has impressed Atlanta Falcons teammates out of the gate

 

[Faust]

Evan Silva @evansilva
Counterpoints:

1) Bijan Robinson is an awesome receiver.

2) The #Falcons are going to run the piss out of the ball behind one of the NFL’s most physical offensive lines regardless of historical league-wide trends.

https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/1684294433452302337?s=21

 

[Tanner9919]

great offensive line , hc with experience with smashmouth football a rb with big legs big speed great hands
I have the first pick in a dynasty league and this means I will draft the guy and he'll stink lol

 

[Faust]

NFL Rookie Watch @NFLRookieWatxh

Bijan Robinson was compared to LaDainian Tomlinson by many leading up to the NFL Draft.Tomlinson said recently that he believes the comparisons are “fair” between him and Robinson.Robinson was reportedly one of the “most fluid” players on the field today at practice.After practice, Cordarrelle Patterson (Falcons RB) said that Robinson is a “f**king awesome” football player.The Falcons rookie RB is DIFFERENT

https://twitter.com/nflrookiewatxh/status/1684391175891959808?s=21

 

[DeaLerZ]

NFL Rookie Watch @NFLRookieWatxh

Bijan Robinson was compared to LaDainian Tomlinson by many leading up to the NFL Draft.Tomlinson said recently that he believes the comparisons are “fair” between him and Robinson.Robinson was reportedly one of the “most fluid” players on the field today at practice.After practice, Cordarrelle Patterson (Falcons RB) said that Robinson is a “f**king awesome” football player.The Falcons rookie RB is DIFFERENT

https://twitter.com/nflrookiewatxh/status/1684391175891959808?s=21

Bijan could have a legendary year this year.

 

[Faust]

Kevin Knight @FalcoholicKevin

#Falcons Bijan Robinson vs Troy Andersen: Round 2. Bijan with the spectacular play.

https://twitter.com/falcoholickevin/status/1684932317041577984?s=21

 

[gump]

I bet this dude makes it regularly to #5 overall in redrafts by late Aug.

 

[Faust]

Cameron Wolfe @CameronWolfe
Biggest player takeaway after watching 2 days of Falcons training camp: Bijan Robinson is going to have an incredible year.

Don’t like to overhype rookies but Bijan looks even better than advertised especially as a pass catcher.

https://twitter.com/cameronwolfe/status/1685312310934392832?s=21

 

[Faust]

NFL Rookie Watch @NFLRookieWatxh

This ROUTE by Bijan Robinson Robinson’s footwork has reportedly given “trouble” to almost every defender he’s faced so far.Robinson has reportedly been used “all over” the field at training camp including playing RB, WR, and KR/PR.Robinson has also reportedly been “one of, if not” the last person off the practice field every day.The Falcons rookie RB is SPECIAL.(Via FalcoholicKevin/TW)

https://twitter.com/nflrookiewatxh/status/1686029499375263744?s=21

 

[markrc99]

great offensive line , hc with experience with smashmouth football a rb with big legs big speed great hands
I have the first pick in a dynasty league and this means I will draft the guy and he'll stink lol

He's coming off where he is because nearly everybody sees the player you do! I just him 3rd overall in a .5ppr, 2-player keeper league. He could take some time to acclimate, like Breece Hall last year, he could down with injury (who I also had). I did a lot to back up the position & I'm good with that part of my build. Like myself, it doesn't seem like being wrong is going be a new sensation for ya. lol

 

[Ministry of Pain]

How High does B-Rob have to go to be considered overrated or drafted too high to exceed or even meet expectations?
And he's never seen an NFL Defense,
NTTAWWT!

 

[Faust]

NFL Beat Writers @32BeatWriters

“There is at least one thing (Bijan) does a day which is just special. Today, whenever he ran the ball he just hit the hole so well and so fluidly within the construct of the blocking. He also has the ability to step and cut within a half-step of how he moves. There's a reason Arthur Smith is ‘pretty damn pleased’”

https://twitter.com/32beatwriters/status/1686176815084171264?s=21

 

[Lansdowne]

How High does B-Rob have to go to be considered overrated or drafted too high to exceed or even meet expectations?
And he's never seen an NFL Defense,
NTTAWWT!

As a soon-to-be Bijan dynasty owner, I’ll say that I wouldn’t be surprised if he finished outside the top 5 among RBs, but would be surprised if he didn’t finish in the top 10. He appears to be consensus 4th among RBs in redraft, so I’d say if he is one of the first 3 RBs taken but finishes somewhere like 7th or 8th among RBs you’ll still be happy but not as much as if you had the studs who outscored him. It’s kind of like how Drake London owners are probably fine with having London in dynasty, but wishing they had taken Garrett Wilson or Chris Olave ahead of him. That sort of feeling.

 

[DeaLerZ]

My only concern with Robinson is how how many scoring opportunities will he have in that offense with Ridder leading the way. I definitely think he will create a few of his own where ridder literally does nothing to help.

 

[JoeJoe88]

My only concern with Robinson is how how many scoring opportunities will he have in that offense with Ridder leading the way. I definitely think he will create a few of his own where ridder literally does nothing to help.

Ridder doesn’t have to be great…he just has to be okay. Mariota was next-level atrocious last year.

Ridder literally has two generational talents now alongside him on offense. It’s going to be hard to mess this up.

 

[zed2283]

At this point, I don't want to see this thread bumped anymore. I don't think more good news is necessary, and now every time I see it bumped I hold my breath...

 

[Faust]

'It's gonna get scary': A first look at Falcons RB Bijan Robinson

 

[pinkstapler]

My only concern with Robinson is how how many scoring opportunities will he have in that offense with Ridder leading the way. I definitely think he will create a few of his own where ridder literally does nothing to help.

Ridder doesn’t have to be great…he just has to be okay. Mariota was next-level atrocious last year.

Ridder literally has two generational talents now alongside him on offense. It’s going to be hard to mess this up.

Why does this immediately make me think of last season and Jim Nantz saying "Michael Badgley has not missed a kick all year, field goal or PAT"..... lol

 

[travdogg]

How High does B-Rob have to go to be considered overrated or drafted too high to exceed or even meet expectations?
And he's never seen an NFL Defense,
NTTAWWT!

Personally, I've got him 6th overall. I think he's the best RB prospect since Zeke, and like Zeke, is going to an ideal situation with a run 1st team with an unproven QB, and a good OL. I don't think Ridder has to be Dak for Bijan to pay off either. Frankly, I think there is a decent shot (just like in Washington with Brissett) Heinicke ends up starting more games.

Having said that, I never end up with Bijan because he goes ahead of Chubb, who I think is gonna have a career season. I'm kind of in the minority this year, where I think people are overcorrecting on RB value, at least fantasy wise. It reminds me a little of 2016, when people were taking AB, Julio, AJ Green, and Beckham in the top-6, and letting RB (other than Gurley) fall. That was a great year for young unproven RBs like David Johnson and Ezekiel Elliott, and undervalued vets like LeSean McCoy and DeMarco Murray.

I kind of think the WR depth is stronger and its a mistake to not get 2 RBs in the 1st 4 rounds, and maybe even the top-2 rounds. I can argue Bijan as high as 4th overall if a team really wants that RB, but I think CMC, Chubb, and Ekeler all having better floor/ceiling arguments, and even as I decree going RB early, I don't think I could pull the trigger on Bijan over Jefferson or Chase. Bijan vs anybody else, I'm taking Bijan.

 

[joey]

At this point, I don't want to see this thread bumped anymore. I don't think more good news is necessary, and now every time I see it bumped I hold my breath...

'It's gonna get scary': A first look at Falcons RB Bijan Robinson

Are you trying to give @zed2283 a heart attack by posting an article with the word “scary“ in the title right after he posted that?!?!?
Cruel

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Frankly, I think there is a decent shot (just like in Washington with Brissett) Heinicke ends up starting more games.

I’m not sure that would be helpful. Heinecke is dreadful.

 

[travdogg]

Frankly, I think there is a decent shot (just like in Washington with Brissett) Heinicke ends up starting more games.

I’m not sure that would be helpful. Heinecke is dreadful.

I'm not a fan of Heinicke either, but he's at least proven he can keep an offense on the rails more than Mariota did last year. Jury is out on Ridder, though hopefully he can be better than either.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I bet this dude makes it regularly to #5 overall in redrafts by late Aug.

how crazy would it be to take him at 1.02 in redraft? presume CMC goes 1.01, you have to take JJ right? Full PPR 3WR 2RB Flex.

let’s say Jefferson goes 1.01. Is it that much riskier taking Bijan over a 27 year old going into his 7th year?

 

[Faust]

Bijan Robinson Is Absolutely COOKING Defenders At Falcons Training Camp

 

[Drake Hater]

I bet this dude makes it regularly to #5 overall in redrafts by late Aug.

how crazy would it be to take him at 1.02 in redraft? presume CMC goes 1.01, you have to take JJ right? Full PPR 3WR 2RB Flex.

let’s say Jefferson goes 1.01. Is it that much riskier taking Bijan over a 27 year old going into his 7th year?

Definitely riskier and I'd have to lean CMC in that scenario with the 49ers' RZ efficiency. Too many questions about that ATL offense especially if they're chasing teams late.

 

[zeeshan2]

[Pulli] Falcons rookie RB Bijan Robinson is listed as the third string running back. He’s behind Cordarrelle Patterson, the starter, and Tyler Allgeier, who is the backup.

go ahead and overreact

 

[Loipz]

[Pulli] Falcons rookie RB Bijan Robinson is listed as the third string running back. He’s behind Cordarrelle Patterson, the starter, and Tyler Allgeier, who is the backup.

go ahead and overreact

Send to owners for a 0.25% discount

 

[travdogg]

[Pulli] Falcons rookie RB Bijan Robinson is listed as the third string running back. He’s behind Cordarrelle Patterson, the starter, and Tyler Allgeier, who is the backup.

go ahead and overreact

I somewhat miss the days where you'd be able to trade a guy like Patterson off of something like that.