Ilov80s
Footballguy
I don't think it's crazy to say Saquon, Talor or Gibbs. I get it, Bijan is the greatest RB prospect since...Saquon but Taylor has already had an RB1 overall season and is a size/speed freak. Gibbs out produced Bijan last year.
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I never said it was crazy, I asked who he would take.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I didn't say you did. The draft data says it is kind of crazy to take those guys before Bijan but I can see the logic in it.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Nothing's crazy inherently but its a huge waste of value to even consider those guys over Bijan. CMC has a lot of milage and is coming into the season dinged.
Hall, I see no blemishes, Clear top 2.
All of the other guys..
Taylor... Richardson vulture at the GL? Very limited receptions due to running QB tendencies... hasn't quite looked what he was at his peak
Barkley... all of the above but with Hurts
Gibbs... if he came in healthy, I'd be on board with this idea of him making a run, but... already had a few injuries in camp. Way too much volatility by contrast and we are worried Bijan may split carries, we know Gibbs is.
Chaka
Footballguy
IMO, and this is generally directed at the thread, not you specifically (I just chose your post to respond to), if you're concerned about Bijan because of Allgeier why does Gibbs get a pass? He is literally in the very definition of a complete time share.
Gibbs didn't outperform Bijan, he had fewer opportunities, fewer receptions & fewer yards (that's per game played and that doesn't account for the bizarre one touch game Bijan had against Tampa Bay). They had identical yards per touch (5.4).
Gibbs had three more TDs, that's the difference. It's also the most volatile stat in magic football.
Gibbs is on a better team for sure but Atlanta looks to have one of the easiest schedules in, perhaps the weakest division in the NFL.
I love Gibbs, he and Bijan were my top two RB draft picks last season but I'd take Bijan this year, admittedly by a small margin but I'd still take Bijan first.
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Down Under
Footballguy
I 'd take Bijan in the top 5, Gibbs in the bottom 5 of the 1st/top 2nd due to a higher chance of timesharing . JMPO
That's what I'm talking about! He's doing a podcast with the OC. You can't tell me he did not get info from that relationship, or the one he has with Raheem, that makes him extra zesty on Bijan.
NFL Network’s Peter Schrager Nails Preseason Super Bowl Pick for Fifth Consecutive Season
The NFL Network analyst has been incredibly accurate with his preseason Super Bowl picks over the last five seasons.www.si.com
I don't think he's done his 2025 prediction yet.
And obviously none of this has anything do with fantasy, just was trying to make the point I don't think he's a doofus. And I'd just add don't listen to any fantasy experts opinion and I'm not really putting any stock on his "opinion" with regards to fantasy. But insider info is not an opinion, and he's very well connected and I think when he is saying stuff like he's saying with Bijan it's based more on info he's being told then anything, and that to me does matter.
I listened to the podcast he did with Zac Robinson awhile back. Concur with your takeaway about Bijan.
And this matters because we all know how talented Bijan with the major question mark of how liberally do they plan to sprinkle in Allgeier. Camp reports have had me thinking pretty liberally, why I had Breece just the smallest amount over him. I feel like now they might just be wisely wanting to keep Bijan fresh in camp and that Schrager was given into his usage is going to look more like CMC stuff.
I think the guy is a blowhard hype machine who has made a career out of his over-the-top enthusiasm schtick. I think he makes things up, including intimations of being an "insider."
Does he know people? Sure. Does he get some nuggets here and there? Sure. Am I totally wrong about him? Likely so. But that's my impression of the guy.
So he picked the last 5 winners correct. Probably not that hard if you're sticking with the consensus and best story/hype.
1. Chiefs - because why not? And Schrager swings off of Mahomes.
2. Buccaneers - Brady going to Tampa and SB played in Tampa.
3. Rams - Stafford story, Rams all in, etc.
4. Chiefs - because why not? And Schrager swings off of Mahomes.
5. Chiefs - repeat?
I would put my money on him picking the Chiefs again this year. Is there any other interesting story/hype out there this year, other than a three-peat?
Disclaimer: no, I did not pick the last 5 SB winners.
Peter Schrager Picks Chiefs to Win Super Bowl 59
Da Franchise
Footballguy
That's what I'm talking about! He's doing a podcast with the OC. You can't tell me he did not get info from that relationship, or the one he has with Raheem, that makes him extra zesty on Bijan.NFL Network’s Peter Schrager Nails Preseason Super Bowl Pick for Fifth Consecutive Season
The NFL Network analyst has been incredibly accurate with his preseason Super Bowl picks over the last five seasons.
I don't think he's done his 2025 prediction yet.
And obviously none of this has anything do with fantasy, just was trying to make the point I don't think he's a doofus. And I'd just add don't listen to any fantasy experts opinion and I'm not really putting any stock on his "opinion" with regards to fantasy. But insider info is not an opinion, and he's very well connected and I think when he is saying stuff like he's saying with Bijan it's based more on info he's being told then anything, and that to me does matter.
I listened to the podcast he did with Zac Robinson awhile back. Concur with your takeaway about Bijan.
And this matters because we all know how talented Bijan with the major question mark of how liberally do they plan to sprinkle in Allgeier. Camp reports have had me thinking pretty liberally, why I had Breece just the smallest amount over him. I feel like now they might just be wisely wanting to keep Bijan fresh in camp and that Schrager was given into his usage is going to look more like CMC stuff.
I think the guy is a blowhard hype machine who has made a career out of his over-the-top enthusiasm schtick. I think he makes things up, including intimations of being an "insider."
Does he know people? Sure. Does he get some nuggets here and there? Sure. Am I totally wrong about him? Likely so. But that's my impression of the guy.
So he picked the last 5 winners correct. Probably not that hard if you're sticking with the consensus and best story/hype.
1. Chiefs - because why not? And Schrager swings off of Mahomes.
2. Buccaneers - Brady going to Tampa and SB played in Tampa.
3. Rams - Stafford story, Rams all in, etc.
4. Chiefs - because why not? And Schrager swings off of Mahomes.
5. Chiefs - repeat?
I would put my money on him picking the Chiefs again this year. Is there any other interesting story/hype out there this year, other than a three-peat?
Disclaimer: no, I did not pick the last 5 SB winners.
Peter Schrager Picks Chiefs to Win Super Bowl 59
What do you want him to do, pick a loser? He’s right. Again.
That's what I'm talking about! He's doing a podcast with the OC. You can't tell me he did not get info from that relationship, or the one he has with Raheem, that makes him extra zesty on Bijan.NFL Network’s Peter Schrager Nails Preseason Super Bowl Pick for Fifth Consecutive Season
The NFL Network analyst has been incredibly accurate with his preseason Super Bowl picks over the last five seasons.
I don't think he's done his 2025 prediction yet.
And obviously none of this has anything do with fantasy, just was trying to make the point I don't think he's a doofus. And I'd just add don't listen to any fantasy experts opinion and I'm not really putting any stock on his "opinion" with regards to fantasy. But insider info is not an opinion, and he's very well connected and I think when he is saying stuff like he's saying with Bijan it's based more on info he's being told then anything, and that to me does matter.
I listened to the podcast he did with Zac Robinson awhile back. Concur with your takeaway about Bijan.
And this matters because we all know how talented Bijan with the major question mark of how liberally do they plan to sprinkle in Allgeier. Camp reports have had me thinking pretty liberally, why I had Breece just the smallest amount over him. I feel like now they might just be wisely wanting to keep Bijan fresh in camp and that Schrager was given into his usage is going to look more like CMC stuff.
I think the guy is a blowhard hype machine who has made a career out of his over-the-top enthusiasm schtick. I think he makes things up, including intimations of being an "insider."
Does he know people? Sure. Does he get some nuggets here and there? Sure. Am I totally wrong about him? Likely so. But that's my impression of the guy.
So he picked the last 5 winners correct. Probably not that hard if you're sticking with the consensus and best story/hype.
1. Chiefs - because why not? And Schrager swings off of Mahomes.
2. Buccaneers - Brady going to Tampa and SB played in Tampa.
3. Rams - Stafford story, Rams all in, etc.
4. Chiefs - because why not? And Schrager swings off of Mahomes.
5. Chiefs - repeat?
I would put my money on him picking the Chiefs again this year. Is there any other interesting story/hype out there this year, other than a three-peat?
Disclaimer: no, I did not pick the last 5 SB winners.
Peter Schrager Picks Chiefs to Win Super Bowl 59
What do you want him to do, pick a loser? He’s right. Again.
My point was that his prediction was predictable. He isn't necessarily that smart or have any special inside knowledge.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Robinson will have to prove he deserves it if he wants it to stay this way. I think he will.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Wish they would throw to him a bit. Dude has such great hands and that talent is being wasted
Pietaster2
Footballguy
Bijan keeps getting ranked #1 each week, or close to it, in almost every rest of season and weekly rankings list on every fantasy website. After watching most of the first three Falcons games, I’m struggling to understand why.
Signed — Bijan owner who really needs his first round fantasy pick to live up to expectations.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
285 total yards and 1 TD in 3 games. We were expecting a lot more, but it could be a lot less. Ha ha
Dizzy
Footballguy
It feels like they substitute Tyler Allgeir too often. I can understand it when things are going according to script, but in tight games with minimal possessions/plays run... leave the starters in. How tired can he get standing on the sidelines for 20 minutes while the Chiefs drive the field?
And to my eye, the two don't look interchangeable. The formations and plays look different when they change RBs.
He's talented, yes, but with his usage I agree with previous poster... how is he ranked top 3 every week without ever living up to it?
Proteus
Footballguy
Maybe he should start acting like a top tier running back.
I don't like the idea that he's got his mind on anything other than his potential to shift into a higher gear and show the world what he can do in the NFL. There is something a bit perfunctory about what he's doing out there. In other words, where is the passion in his game? I don't see it and this head-in-clouds about peripheral things bothers me.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Good not great.. in terms of usage and as a player.
A 4th and 1 sweep doesn't offer confidence in terms of his ability on the goal line. They didn't trust him to take the 3rd and short carry either, that went to Aliger. So either they dont think he can make it north/south or the coaches are idiots. Both are in play.
Will have to pray receptions justify his ADP
A 4th and 1 sweep doesn't offer confidence in terms of his ability on the goal line. They didn't trust him to take the 3rd and short carry either, that went to Aliger. So either they dont think he can make it north/south or the coaches are idiots. Both are in play.
Will have to pray receptions justify his ADP
TampaMike19
Footballguy
him and breece are both inefficient this year. It's just weird. Were they hyped up too much, or is it the team infrastructure?
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
The OC is terrible. That doesn’t help.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
That team is one Saquan drop away from being 0-3 and they wouldn't have broken 20 in a game.
JAA
Footballguy
Currently the 15th ranked RB in PPR leagues. Seems, so far, he was overvalued. And Allgeier does have a roll.
To be fair, seems like a few RB's were overvalued.
Allgeir looks good as well. BR being propped by some short tds...if TA gets a hold of a couple of those the gap between them will close pretty fast
TampaMike19
Footballguy
2 receptions for Bijan seems a bit ridiculous considering he averages the same YPR as Darnell Mooney just did last night. Not sure what that was about. This feels like Breece / Braelon but worse. The Jets RB's are catching the ball at a high rate and the backup seems quite good in their own right.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
TA is the reason they didn’t convert on 3rd and 1, and he followed that up by botching his blocking assignment on 4th down. TA doesn’t even belong on the field based on those two key plays.
At this moment the entire first few rounds can be picked apart. All things considered I feel fine with where he will end up versus the draft capital.
A really small one bordering on insignificant and if people thought Bijan was going to be playing 83% of the snaps he'd have been going much higher in a lot of drafts.
Hated to see it and absolutely think they should have used him more for some easier throws but they needed him in pass pro and he was kind of incredible with it, obviously does us no good but he was stonewalling dudes.
You literally just beat me to this.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Side note, I always think it's a funny argument when I hear people talk up a RB because "he's good at pass blocking, so he will get work". It's still true, because if you're in for a whole drive because of your pass protection, you're going to get the touches too. But just kind of ironic/paradoxical ... "wait, that's not the 'work' I want my guy to get ..."
He was going plenty high and he has failed to pay off. Period.
That may change. Right now he sits right behind Singletary. Let that sink in.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
based on this thread i might try to trade for him. tough to do in Austin.
This is an absurd overreaction.
So was CMC, Chase, Lamb, Hill, all terrible picks. Very insightful.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Let's replay the tape
3rd and 1, they hand it to Tyler and he runs the play like it's 1st and 10 or 2nd and 7
Algheier doesn't slam it up inside but acts patient waiting for a block to open, that's not how you run on 3rd and 1 or 3rd and short down a TD late in a football game
Then on 4th and short they decide to try and run Bijan on a sweep left and run him 5-6 yds wide to try and get a few inches, that's poor play calling all around
3rd and 1, they hand it to Tyler and he runs the play like it's 1st and 10 or 2nd and 7
Algheier doesn't slam it up inside but acts patient waiting for a block to open, that's not how you run on 3rd and 1 or 3rd and short down a TD late in a football game
Then on 4th and short they decide to try and run Bijan on a sweep left and run him 5-6 yds wide to try and get a few inches, that's poor play calling all around
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Excellent point
Dizzy
Footballguy
This is exactly what I was referring to. When Allgier is in the game, it's going between the tackles. When Bijan is in, its a stretch/gap run, outside. Then last night, they lose both right side linemen, so everything is going left.
That sweep left on 4th & 1 with all 11 defenders on the line was a terrible call by the OC.
