RB Breece Hall, NYJ (1 Viewer)

[joey]

TBD if that team owner has soured on him, but it seems there might be a chance.

I think this was a big part of the trade that I made (posted up thread) that was accepted.
That, plus it’s only year2 of this Superflex and league and that owner seems to have soured on parts of his start up draft and is moving pieces for picks.

All this stuff is SO league dependent it’s hard to discuss in broad terms.

But, yeah, I’m in the camp that Hall is pretty pretty pretty good #larryDavid

 

[Ray_T]

I would expect a "hold in" this summer.

Since he was a 2nd rounder, this is the last year of his deal. I'm guessing the Jets will be VERY hesitant to pay a RB big money with the QB situation unsettled and 2 talented MUCH cheaper backs on the roster. (I dont think Allen or Davis are great talents, but they're capable pieces) And honestly....Breece just hasn't been quite the player it looked like he'd be before the injury.

Plenty of reasons for that (bad Qb situation, shaky o-line for a decent portion of his career) but he simply hasn't proven himself to be worth a big long-term deal. The breakaway speed and ability to make guys miss hasn't come back post-injury.

Please lawd let him go to a different team.

Be like Barkley moving to the Eagles.

I was one of the biggest Breece Hall believers on this board after his truncated rookie year. But he's nowhere near Saquan as a talent....at least not anymore (and probably ever).

Just doesn't make enough people miss....consistently mis-reads blocks and leaves yards on the field. Been chased down multiple times one what looked like guaranteed TD's.

Still a very good player. Good receiver. I certainly think he could be top 10 (or maybe even top 5 RB) in the right situation. But he's not Barkley.

Recency bias is a thing.

Hall is an elite talent, and easily on par with Saquan. Being on a crappy team that can't sustain drives, combined with bad OL play, bad playcalling and some number of injuries probably didn't help his 2024 season much.

Like looking at Barkley's stats from last night and concluding that he's mediocre, disregarding the previous games where successful play calling opened up huge holes for him.

No offense, I just see people bashing Hall based on 1 down year being kind of short-sighted.

Barkley is not mediocre.

chiefs were one of the best (if not THE best) run defense in the NFL this year.

but what Barkley did is he forced the team to defend the run more than in their first superbowl meeting. a good run game means that a defense cannot pin their ears back and go after the QB because if they run the ball and the RB makes it through that initial wave hes got a lot of open field to run in.

if you have a chance to look at the way the line behaved the first superbowl matchup between these teams and then take a look at how it behaved in this superbowl. they tactics are different and I'd suggest that the defense had to play it differently because of the presence of Barkley. To me when a player forces the defense to change how they play you, that means he can play.

against this defense those numbers were good. just my 2 cent opinion.

 

[Jayded]

This is potentially becoming a buy opportunity similar to JT not too long ago. Bad offense and coming off a significant injury. One more year removed from his knee injury and hopefully the offense can get back on track. He will just be turning 24 later this year and has lots of life left in his tank. Hall is still ranked fairly high but not as high as he was and now can be obtained if you really want him.

As all the RBs get hyped come draft season (in dynasty) someone might fall in love with a prospect or 2 and you can now make a deal for Hall. I bought JT when he was slow coming back from injury and had his contract dispute. Bought for a good price and now I'm laughing. I'll do the same for Hall.

Yeah, he sucks so much that I've received a half dozen trade offers (most low-balls) in my 16 team dynasty with messages explaining to me why he's so bad and why I should accept scraps for him.

Reject, no counter to all. I've seen too much greatness from Hall to be suckered into a sell low. He remains a cornerstone dynasty player in my eyes. That said, based on posts above I might try to put a package together for him in the 16-teamer where I was the 1-seed. If I could add Hall to that roster it would be a potentially massive move. TBD if that team owner has soured on him, but it seems there might be a chance.

I would agree not to sell low. But seeing Allen and Davis start to vulture more carries than I'd like definitely gave me pause as a shareholder. I sold this offseason and I might be totally wrong, but I wanted to restart my dynasty cycle at the position and worried about a few factors with him even though I believe he's talented. He feels like it's possible he could flame out a lot quicker than we think and couple that with his situation, I'd at least be looking to sell soon-ish IMO if you can get fair value.

 

[Big Nate]

This is potentially becoming a buy opportunity similar to JT not too long ago. Bad offense and coming off a significant injury. One more year removed from his knee injury and hopefully the offense can get back on track. He will just be turning 24 later this year and has lots of life left in his tank. Hall is still ranked fairly high but not as high as he was and now can be obtained if you really want him.

As all the RBs get hyped come draft season (in dynasty) someone might fall in love with a prospect or 2 and you can now make a deal for Hall. I bought JT when he was slow coming back from injury and had his contract dispute. Bought for a good price and now I'm laughing. I'll do the same for Hall.

Yeah, he sucks so much that I've received a half dozen trade offers (most low-balls) in my 16 team dynasty with messages explaining to me why he's so bad and why I should accept scraps for him.

Reject, no counter to all. I've seen too much greatness from Hall to be suckered into a sell low. He remains a cornerstone dynasty player in my eyes. That said, based on posts above I might try to put a package together for him in the 16-teamer where I was the 1-seed. If I could add Hall to that roster it would be a potentially massive move. TBD if that team owner has soured on him, but it seems there might be a chance.

For sure, I never implied to sell low or send low ball offers but I'm sure many are. But if someone is willing to pay fair market value he's obtainable now, where as after 2023 and start of 24 he was almost untouchable. Not every owner will sell but there is a chance now where I feel a solid offer could get something done.

 

[Big Nate]

This is potentially becoming a buy opportunity similar to JT not too long ago. Bad offense and coming off a significant injury. One more year removed from his knee injury and hopefully the offense can get back on track. He will just be turning 24 later this year and has lots of life left in his tank. Hall is still ranked fairly high but not as high as he was and now can be obtained if you really want him.

As all the RBs get hyped come draft season (in dynasty) someone might fall in love with a prospect or 2 and you can now make a deal for Hall. I bought JT when he was slow coming back from injury and had his contract dispute. Bought for a good price and now I'm laughing. I'll do the same for Hall.

Yeah, he sucks so much that I've received a half dozen trade offers (most low-balls) in my 16 team dynasty with messages explaining to me why he's so bad and why I should accept scraps for him.

Reject, no counter to all. I've seen too much greatness from Hall to be suckered into a sell low. He remains a cornerstone dynasty player in my eyes. That said, based on posts above I might try to put a package together for him in the 16-teamer where I was the 1-seed. If I could add Hall to that roster it would be a potentially massive move. TBD if that team owner has soured on him, but it seems there might be a chance.

I would agree not to sell low. But seeing Allen and Davis start to vulture more carries than I'd like definitely gave me pause as a shareholder. I sold this offseason and I might be totally wrong, but I wanted to restart my dynasty cycle at the position and worried about a few factors with him even though I believe he's talented. He feels like it's possible he could flame out a lot quicker than we think and couple that with his situation, I'd at least be looking to sell soon-ish IMO if you can get fair value.

Speaking of Allen and Davis something was up there but by no means do they worry me. It was more off maybe Hall was dinged up and/or the coaches wanted to give more reps to Allen and Davis. Having said that - how did it work out for them?

I'm not worried about Allen and Davis taking over from Hall, especially since Hall can be a true 3-down workhorse. he can catch passes and also work the red zone/goal line. In a good offense Hall should be scoring double digit TDs each year with a good mix of passes sprinkled in.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Barkley is not mediocre.

That was my point. Like, my entire point - it was said as an example of recency bias.

This is a wholly unnecessary response/defense of Barkley.

 

[rockaction]

Speaking of Allen and Davis something was up there but by no means do they worry me. It was more off maybe Hall was dinged up and/or the coaches wanted to give more reps to Allen and Davis. Having said that - how did it work out for them?

I'm not worried about Allen and Davis taking over from Hall, especially since Hall can be a true 3-down workhorse. he can catch passes and also work the red zone/goal line. In a good offense Hall should be scoring double digit TDs each year with a good mix of passes sprinkled in.

They were both rookies, but neither guy is as good as Breece Hall. I think Saleh really liked Allen and under Ulbrich we saw more Davis. Perhaps the Jets saw enough in those two to let Breece Hall walk, but if that's the case Hall has a good shot at landing in a good situation with a team that has coaching stability and a QB and O-line, which he hasn't had at any point in his Jets tenure. I think that's why HSG is talking about Saquon—he's dreaming of a scenario where a quality back fits with a quality team. Of course, we all know that doesn't happen as often as we'd like, but Hall is twenty-four. He's in his prime right now. I'm a Jets fan so it would hurt but my ultimate loyalty is to my dynasty team and I roster Hall in my main league. I'd like to see him go somewhere that he can show out and show off.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

tenure. I think that's why HSG is talking about Saquon—he's dreaming of a scenario where a quality back fits with a quality team

Exactly.

In the 2nd reference to him my point was that viewing the SB in isolation, the casual observer might not think Barkley was that great. But one would have to ignore the entire season + his historic playoff run to have formulated that opinion.

I think Hall’s 2024 is being viewed through that narrow lens by many. It’s a combination of recency bias + a general distain for the position that’s evolved over the years in FF, and seemingly the NFL draft. But big picture the take away I have is that running backs still matter. Running the ball matters. Barkley’s game included 6 receptions, and most were important to sustaining drives.

Looking at the NFL as a whole, the teams in the playoffs all had quality running backs, with the Chiefs being somewhat the exception. Hunt/Pacheco scared no one. The Chargers suffered quite a bit once their run game evaporated due to injury but they were a pretty successful run-heavy team. Teams like HOU (Mixon), GB (Jacobs), WAS (Robinson & Eke), BUF (Cook), Rams (Williams) and of course Eagles with Barkley’s top 6 all-time rushing season were all successful because of the quality of their RBs/OL.

To me, this season was a huge statement that the devaluation of the NFL running back is an enormous miscalculation by NFL franchises. I don’t think they’ll learn from it & start drafting backs higher again - maybe a few teams will, but it’s unlikely. Seems like more of an economic decision than one supported by evidence on the field.

And to that point, there should be a trade market for Hall - I’m sure a lot of the teams that watched the Eagles get Barkley and shrugged are signing a different tune about now.

 

[Ray_T]

Barkley is not mediocre.

That was my point. Like, my entire point - it was said as an example of recency bias.

This is a wholly unnecessary response/defense of Barkley.

Yes, I was agreeing with you. anyone who says he is mediocre clearly has not seen him play all that much this season. he has been fantastic.

 

[Ray_T]

This is potentially becoming a buy opportunity similar to JT not too long ago. Bad offense and coming off a significant injury. One more year removed from his knee injury and hopefully the offense can get back on track. He will just be turning 24 later this year and has lots of life left in his tank. Hall is still ranked fairly high but not as high as he was and now can be obtained if you really want him.

As all the RBs get hyped come draft season (in dynasty) someone might fall in love with a prospect or 2 and you can now make a deal for Hall. I bought JT when he was slow coming back from injury and had his contract dispute. Bought for a good price and now I'm laughing. I'll do the same for Hall.

Yeah, he sucks so much that I've received a half dozen trade offers (most low-balls) in my 16 team dynasty with messages explaining to me why he's so bad and why I should accept scraps for him.

Reject, no counter to all. I've seen too much greatness from Hall to be suckered into a sell low. He remains a cornerstone dynasty player in my eyes. That said, based on posts above I might try to put a package together for him in the 16-teamer where I was the 1-seed. If I could add Hall to that roster it would be a potentially massive move. TBD if that team owner has soured on him, but it seems there might be a chance.

I would agree not to sell low. But seeing Allen and Davis start to vulture more carries than I'd like definitely gave me pause as a shareholder. I sold this offseason and I might be totally wrong, but I wanted to restart my dynasty cycle at the position and worried about a few factors with him even though I believe he's talented. He feels like it's possible he could flame out a lot quicker than we think and couple that with his situation, I'd at least be looking to sell soon-ish IMO if you can get fair value.

I would also not sell low. but I would consider selling at market.

to maximize the talent at The RB position you need one of two things (and in some cases both)

1) you need a good O line. running an elite RB behind a weak line usually wont get you anywhere. Barkley is a case in point. ok numbers in New York behind that terrible line. but put him behind the best line in the NFL and he puts up elite numbers bordering on historically great.
2) you need a QB who is good enough to punish a defense that keys on the run. if the QB isnt good enough to do this, its tough sledding unless you have an elite O line. (hint most teams dont have one)

Rodgers is good enough to stop teams from keying on the run but at this point I'm not sure that his replacement will be. so because of that uncertainty I'd consider selling at what I consider to be market value. but I'd still give no discount.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Yes, I was agreeing with you. anyone who says he is mediocre clearly has not seen him play all that much this season. he has been fantastic.

Ah, ok thanks for the clarification - that was confusing on first read.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

I think folks are somewhat overrating what Braelon Allen did last year tbh.

Had one or two nice games at the beginning of the year. Did absolutely nothing thereafter. 2.9 ypc or something like that from week 5 on.

Hall wasn't good last year and he was still way above 4 ypc on the season. He is absolutely miles better than Allen in my eyes. Not sure how anyone has come to the conclusion that Allen is a threat to him. Some crazy narrative risen from nowhere based on any real facts.

Allen's best game of the season, the only time in my standard league he scored above 10 points, was vs the Titans in week 2. He scored 17.60. In that same game Hall scored 17.40. He didn't take any of Hall's work, he didn't outperform him by any metric.

 

[rockaction]

I think folks are somewhat overrating what Braelon Allen did last year tbh.

Had one or two nice games at the beginning of the year. Did absolutely nothing thereafter. 2.9 ypc or something like that from week 5 on.

Hall wasn't good last year and he was still way above 4 ypc on the season. He is absolutely miles better than Allen in my eyes. Not sure how anyone has come to the conclusion that Allen is a threat to him. Some crazy narrative risen from nowhere based on any real facts.

Allen's best game of the season, the only time in my standard league he scored above 10 points, was vs the Titans in week 2. He scored 17.60. In that same game Hall scored 17.40. He didn't take any of Hall's work, he didn't outperform him by any metric.

Yep

 

[Big Nate]

tenure. I think that's why HSG is talking about Saquon—he's dreaming of a scenario where a quality back fits with a quality team

Exactly.

In the 2nd reference to him my point was that viewing the SB in isolation, the casual observer might not think Barkley was that great. But one would have to ignore the entire season + his historic playoff run to have formulated that opinion.

I think Hall’s 2024 is being viewed through that narrow lens by many. It’s a combination of recency bias + a general distain for the position that’s evolved over the years in FF, and seemingly the NFL draft. But big picture the take away I have is that running backs still matter. Running the ball matters. Barkley’s game included 6 receptions, and most were important to sustaining drives.

Looking at the NFL as a whole, the teams in the playoffs all had quality running backs, with the Chiefs being somewhat the exception. Hunt/Pacheco scared no one. The Chargers suffered quite a bit once their run game evaporated due to injury but they were a pretty successful run-heavy team. Teams like HOU (Mixon), GB (Jacobs), WAS (Robinson & Eke), BUF (Cook), Rams (Williams) and of course Eagles with Barkley’s top 6 all-time rushing season were all successful because of the quality of their RBs/OL.

To me, this season was a huge statement that the devaluation of the NFL running back is an enormous miscalculation by NFL franchises. I don’t think they’ll learn from it & start drafting backs higher again - maybe a few teams will, but it’s unlikely. Seems like more of an economic decision than one supported by evidence on the field.

And to that point, there should be a trade market for Hall - I’m sure a lot of the teams that watched the Eagles get Barkley and shrugged are signing a different tune about now.

With defenses shifting the past few years, trying to take away the big plays and deep balls it has opened up the running game. Good teams are finding ways to run and be successful. I shifted a couple years ago picking up more RBs and even older RBs like Mixon and Montgomery (when he left the Bears) as people thought they were cooked. Starting 2 Rbs and 2-3 RBs in my flex spots has me winning back to back chips in one league and being in the finals three times winning once in a second league. NFL teams are shifting to more of a run game and I've shifted as well. Eventually teams will have to focus on stopping the run (like the Chiefs did in the SB) which then opens up the passing game.

It is an evolving league and right now the RBs are having great success.

 

[Big Nate]

I think folks are somewhat overrating what Braelon Allen did last year tbh.

Had one or two nice games at the beginning of the year. Did absolutely nothing thereafter. 2.9 ypc or something like that from week 5 on.

Hall wasn't good last year and he was still way above 4 ypc on the season. He is absolutely miles better than Allen in my eyes. Not sure how anyone has come to the conclusion that Allen is a threat to him. Some crazy narrative risen from nowhere based on any real facts.

Allen's best game of the season, the only time in my standard league he scored above 10 points, was vs the Titans in week 2. He scored 17.60. In that same game Hall scored 17.40. He didn't take any of Hall's work, he didn't outperform him by any metric.

Yep, I'm not really worried about Allen. Would I like him on my dynasty team - sure. He is super young (just turned 21), showed well at times and could be a good back-up RB as it stands now. But I don't think he's quite ready to be a full time starting RB. He also isn't as good as Hall in the passing game.

Not saying Allen can't keep improving but right now Hall is better and its not even close.

 

[Kiddnets]

I think folks are somewhat overrating what Braelon Allen did last year tbh.

Had one or two nice games at the beginning of the year. Did absolutely nothing thereafter. 2.9 ypc or something like that from week 5 on.

Hall wasn't good last year and he was still way above 4 ypc on the season. He is absolutely miles better than Allen in my eyes. Not sure how anyone has come to the conclusion that Allen is a threat to him. Some crazy narrative risen from nowhere based on any real facts.

Allen's best game of the season, the only time in my standard league he scored above 10 points, was vs the Titans in week 2. He scored 17.60. In that same game Hall scored 17.40. He didn't take any of Hall's work, he didn't outperform him by any metric.

Id buy low on both Breece and Allen - In QB purgatory again I imagine AG is going to lean on the running game next year. Offensive play calling last year was hideous - no imagination at all....way too many run it straight into the middle every time Braelon was out there. I like both to have a big year in 25 - and if you land both you might get 2 starters if Jets dont sign Breece

 

[JohnnyU]

Hall gives me Barkley vibes if he is traded and lands in a good spot. I don't think that is earth shattering by any means, but I just wanted to say that.

 

[Big Nate]

Hall gives me Barkley vibes if he is traded and lands in a good spot. I don't think that is earth shattering by any means, but I just wanted to say that.

Hall is such a good RB I think all the latest crap going on in NY has lowered his "value" a bit. It is still high on most rankings but year to year he is one RB that could legit finish as the RB1. For him to finish top 5 the offense needs to be better, better QB play, better play calling and utilize Hall for what he is. He is a true 3-down back that can catch passes out of the backfield.

Hall destroyed TD records in college. He scored 50 rushing touchdowns in 3 years and had back to back 20 TD seasons to finish his college years. Guy is a beast. He just can't do it all when the QB play is sub-par and the offensive play calling sucks.

 

[Ray_T]

Hall gives me Barkley vibes if he is traded and lands in a good spot. I don't think that is earth shattering by any means, but I just wanted to say that.

Hall is such a good RB I think all the latest crap going on in NY has lowered his "value" a bit. It is still high on most rankings but year to year he is one RB that could legit finish as the RB1. For him to finish top 5 the offense needs to be better, better QB play, better play calling and utilize Hall for what he is. He is a true 3-down back that can catch passes out of the backfield.

Hall destroyed TD records in college. He scored 50 rushing touchdowns in 3 years and had back to back 20 TD seasons to finish his college years. Guy is a beast. He just can't do it all when the QB play is sub-par and the offensive play calling sucks.

of course his value is lower because of all the crap going on in NY. when the vultures are circling and the media has an article about your starting QB nearly every day with respect to what hes doing wrong, its gonna affect the rest of the team. Theres no way around that. they've gone from contender to pretender to rebuilding team in literally 1 year.

I do think the defense took a step backwards too. not sure why that happened but they just dont seem to be as good as they were the year before. When you truly believe in your Defense you can run a more conservative offense (ie. run more often) without fear that the Defense will give up a TD if you dont make it.

but yeah, RB's tend to produce better on winning teams, and the team was not winning.

if they have to rebuild, the right move might actually be to trade him Hes young, he has lots of value, and people likely will look at what happened with Sequon last year and if their team has a good run blocking O line, there may be a thought that a similar move may work for them.

so the market may not actually be better for a player of his calibre.

but I do not think this is the way it will shake out. (gut feeling)

 

[ghostguy123]

Breece Hall or pick 1.02.
Go

 

[eighsse2]

Breece Hall or pick 1.02.
Go

Legit very tough call. I go with Breece.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Breece Hall or pick 1.02.
Go

Honestly I think I’d take the pick at this point, and that pains me a bit.

 

[eighsse2]

Breece Hall or pick 1.02.
Go

Honestly I think I’d take the pick at this point, and that pains me a bit.

Thing is, if Breece were 25 going on 26 right now, I'd be a lot less optimistic. He won't even quite be 24 when next season starts. Nearly 3000 scrimmage yards and 133 receptions over his second and third seasons combined. In a vacuum, those numbers equal immense dynasty value. If he ends up somewhere else, or if the offense kicks it into gear (I know, I know ... but things really can change quickly), nothing has brought him down from overall RB1 potential.

 

[FantasyGuru24]

Breece or Jeanty?

 

[Blick]

Breece Hall or pick 1.02.
Go

I don’t understand why you’d want the pick. Breece is one of 5-6 RBs that I can visualize having a real path to RB1 overall. Why give that up for another RB you hope has that upside.

If you want a WR, I’d much rather just trade him for a veteran over anyone in this class. I guess you could make this deal if you think the pick will be easier to flip.

 

[ghostguy123]

Breece or Jeanty?

A better question might be, which guy would you prefer if the Jets drafted Jeanty, lol.

 

[eighsse2]

Breece or Jeanty?

Jeanty easily for me.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Breece or Jeanty?

Jeanty comfortably for me.

 

[-OZ-]

Breece or Jeanty?

I like breece enough and am not looking to sell but if offered jeanty, I’d jump on it.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Breece or Jeanty?

Unless Jeanty went somewhere completely insane like the Falcons, Lions or Jets, the answer is Jeanty.

 

[zeeshan2]

Interesting answer from Glenn on Breece Hall, who admittedly struggled at time last season. Glenn: "I think, mentally, he's in a good place, but I would say that we have three running backs on this team that we're going to utilize as much as possible."Hall is used to being the featured RB. Sounds like Allen and Davis will be factors. #Jets

https://x.com/RichCimini/status/1906691512743727452

 

[eighsse2]

Interesting answer from Glenn on Breece Hall, who admittedly struggled at time last season. Glenn: "I think, mentally, he's in a good place, but I would say that we have three running backs on this team that we're going to utilize as much as possible."Hall is used to being the featured RB. Sounds like Allen and Davis will be factors. #Jets

https://x.com/RichCimini/status/1906691512743727452

Feels like a coachy team-first comment.

 

[menobrown]

Interesting answer from Glenn on Breece Hall, who admittedly struggled at time last season. Glenn: "I think, mentally, he's in a good place, but I would say that we have three running backs on this team that we're going to utilize as much as possible."Hall is used to being the featured RB. Sounds like Allen and Davis will be factors. #Jets

https://x.com/RichCimini/status/1906691512743727452

Feels like a coachy team-first comment.

Afraid as a multiple league Breece Hall owner not the read I had on it.

There is what was said and what was not said today regarding Breece and the combo does not give me awesome vibes for as long as he remains a Jet.

Obviously we know the part that was said. The part that was not said was the Jets said it was priority to extend Garrett Wilson and Sauce after the draft but made zero mention of Breece.

 

[rockaction]

He didn’t play well last year. They have tons of needs. RB is not a premier position. That would have been very surprising to me if they said they were looking to extend him before the year began.

I certainly have counted on Breece being gone, and if he’s playing well then he goes to a better situation (most likely). If he’s not playing well then it’s all moot anyway. Nobody hands you volume most of the time in the NFL. It is earned.

Time to earn both volume and a fat check, Breece. Time to show and go. Last call. All that stuff. Bugs Bunny waving goodbye as Brun Hilde to Vagner Fudd. Go get her, Breece! She’s all yours!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Breece or Jeanty?

Unless Jeanty went somewhere completely insane like the Falcons, Lions or Jets, the answer is Jeanty.

I would love that. But then I’m a fan of chaos.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Obviously we know the part that was said. The part that was not said was the Jets said it was priority to extend Garrett Wilson and Sauce after the draft but made zero mention of Breece.

As a Hall shareholder, nothing would make me happier.

Maybe the 49ers sign him when CMC is done.

Also I’ve noticed that teams that aren’t committed to re-signing their RBs tend to run them into the ground, which is pretty good for FF numbers. Not always, but seemingly often.

 

[Faust]

The Coachspeak Index
#Jets HC Aaron Glenn on Breece Hall and the RB room:

• “I would say that we have three running backs on this team that we’re gonna utilize as much as possible”

• It could be a 1-2-3 punch with the guys we have

• If we can get them all on the field at one time, we’ll do that

https://x.com/coachspeakindex/status/1906792879680553376?s=61

 

[TheDirtyWord]

The Coachspeak Index
#Jets HC Aaron Glenn on Breece Hall and the RB room:

• “I would say that we have three running backs on this team that we’re gonna utilize as much as possible”

• It could be a 1-2-3 punch with the guys we have

• If we can get them all on the field at one time, we’ll do that

https://x.com/coachspeakindex/status/1906792879680553376?s=61

Coming from DET, I think Allen might be the play here but Breece could wind up being undervalued.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

I guess I am still a part of the camp that believes Breece Hall is still a very good RB and the Jets were terrible at utilizing him.

As a Hall owner, I welcome the change of scenery... the Jets don't seem bought in on Hall, evidenced by all of the RB's they have drafted behind him.

 

[menobrown]

A few obstacles to it but would not shocked if the Jets made him available in a trade. My belief is to get to that point Breece would have to express unhappiness over playing out the last year of his deal in a more relegated role, which he may or may not mind-I don't know, just saying two possible situations that might make him seek an early exit exist right now. He also was not thrilled with the decision to cut Rodgers.

I know Glenn felt the need to say Breece was "in a good place, but...." right before he said they'd use all 3 Rb's which I did not really take as Breece being good right now, his re-assurance was not assurring.

Main obstacles to ever dealing him is the loaded RB class and likely minimal comp but I still think it will mainly boil down to how well he takes no extension offer(assuming that's the way it's going to go) and being in more of if not a full blown RBBC.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

I still think it will mainly boil down to how well he takes no extension offer

I think their willingness to trade him will boil down to how good the other two guys are. There seems to be some misplaced positivity about how effective those guys were last year (they weren't). If you aren't expecting the other guys to make any great steps forward this coming season then Breece should remain the featured, main RB on the team.

That's what I'm expecting.

 

[menobrown]

I still think it will mainly boil down to how well he takes no extension offer

I think their willingness to trade him will boil down to how good the other two guys are. There seems to be some misplaced positivity about how effective those guys were last year (they weren't). If you aren't expecting the other guys to make any great steps forward this coming season then Breece should remain the featured, main RB on the team.

That's what I'm expecting.

Define featured?

I think his role will by far be the lowest it's ever been. The number one touch guy but less usage then ever before. Not sure if he'll even be a 50% guy.

The notion that they have 3 quality starting level RB's is shared by others. Daniel Jeremiah has said it multiple times this off-season before Glenn ever did. You say they were not effective last year but I don't think Breece was that great either.

I will continue to stand on what I said that if he's unhappy they will make him available. New regime does not want unhappy or negative key players and I think they feel good about going the other two RB's if it gets to that.

 

[eighsse2]

There seems to be some misplaced positivity about how effective those guys were last year (they weren't).

I only have Davis out of the three, so not to sound like I think he's some future star, but just curious what you may know about his performance that I don't. His stats seemed plenty good, though he didn't have much usage. But I don't know if it was all garbage time against second string defenses, or what. 30 for 174 = 5.8 ypa with a TD, and 9-of-12 for 75 and a TD receiving.

ETA: that is a @Wigglytuff's Gruff quote, not @menobrown.

 

[menobrown]

There seems to be some misplaced positivity about how effective those guys were last year (they weren't).

I only have Davis out of the three, so not to sound like I think he's some future star, but just curious what you may know about his performance that I don't. His stats seemed plenty good, though he didn't have much usage. But I don't know if it was all garbage time against second string defenses, or what. 30 for 174 = 5.8 ypa with a TD, and 9-of-12 for 75 and a TD receiving.

That's not my comment.

 

[eighsse2]

There seems to be some misplaced positivity about how effective those guys were last year (they weren't).

I only have Davis out of the three, so not to sound like I think he's some future star, but just curious what you may know about his performance that I don't. His stats seemed plenty good, though he didn't have much usage. But I don't know if it was all garbage time against second string defenses, or what. 30 for 174 = 5.8 ypa with a TD, and 9-of-12 for 75 and a TD receiving.

That's not my comment.

Oh, my bad. Not sure how that happened.

 

[sheerterror]

D-bag spamming lowballer in my league who had already offered me his 1.9 for Breece a month or so ago (he also has 1.7 and 1.8) immediately sends me out the same garbage offer on the back of Glenn's comments. Asked him to name me the 8 undrafted, teamless rookies who are worth more than Hall. Got no response of course.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

D-bag spamming lowballer in my league

Hey, I have a name, dude. Cmon.

 

[sheerterror]

D-bag spamming lowballer in my league

Hey, I have a name, dude. Cmon.

You utilize way too much logic and reason for me to think you can even hold a candle to this guy lol

 

[JohnnyU]

D-bag spamming lowballer in my league

Hey, I have a name, dude. Cmon.

 

[Faust]

Rich Cimini
#Jets insider: Examining why Glenn wants to turn a one-man backfield (Hall) into a committee. Did someone say trade? … Closer look at Glenn’s coaching tenets … No OL shake up … Lazard’s future … A QB clue.

https://x.com/richcimini/status/1908852889688088591?s=61

Sigmund Bloom
"Glenn's comments surely will fuel trade speculation...Hall is a gifted player who would attract interest if dangled in trade talks. Perhaps the Jets would consider moving him if Boise State star Ashton Jeanty is available with the seventh pick in the April 24 draft."

https://x.com/sigmundbloom/status/1908861672879538588?s=61