Hot Sauce Guy
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For a zero RB build like my dynasty team he fits the mold.
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jm192
Footballguy
He's an interesting/sneaky later round value pick.
Brooks tore his ACL in November. Most guys aren't quite as explosive/the same the first year back. I'm not educating anyone with that--just stating the obvious thing that has to be stated. Furthermore, the NFL's a step up from college. There's a little bit of getting used to the speed/figuring out what you can and can't get away with at this level.
I don't know what the "normal" return to paly is, but if it's still roughly a year, it's possible he's not ready to start the season. Hubbard could get you a few spot starts to begin the year. If he has any set backs or any other injuries--Hubbard could slide in.
FBG has the offensive line ranked as the #7 Run blocking OL. I don't have last year's data in front of me, but I would imagine they have improved if they're rated that well. Bryce should be better after a year in the NFL. They brought in better pass catchers with Johnson and Legette. I would think the running backs are set up for more success.
Hubbard wound up as RB35 in PPG in .5 PPR leagues. He's going later than the 35th RB. Fantasypros has him at RB43, FBG has him at RB44. I like him at RB39. At the price tag, it's fine if he does nothing. But you could get multiple starts out of a guy that you spent next to nothing on.
Brooks tore his ACL in November. Most guys aren't quite as explosive/the same the first year back. I'm not educating anyone with that--just stating the obvious thing that has to be stated. Furthermore, the NFL's a step up from college. There's a little bit of getting used to the speed/figuring out what you can and can't get away with at this level.
I don't know what the "normal" return to paly is, but if it's still roughly a year, it's possible he's not ready to start the season. Hubbard could get you a few spot starts to begin the year. If he has any set backs or any other injuries--Hubbard could slide in.
FBG has the offensive line ranked as the #7 Run blocking OL. I don't have last year's data in front of me, but I would imagine they have improved if they're rated that well. Bryce should be better after a year in the NFL. They brought in better pass catchers with Johnson and Legette. I would think the running backs are set up for more success.
Hubbard wound up as RB35 in PPG in .5 PPR leagues. He's going later than the 35th RB. Fantasypros has him at RB43, FBG has him at RB44. I like him at RB39. At the price tag, it's fine if he does nothing. But you could get multiple starts out of a guy that you spent next to nothing on.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I have him as a hold in dynasty.
For one, the Brooks ACL & timeline. For another, Chuba has proved that he can pass protect, he’s a solid rusher, and decent enough receiver.
Brooks is an untested rookie. Ya never know what he’s gonna do.
Oklahoma State is "the other school" in Oklahoma and it doesn't matter if they're a top team they're always the other school. They often put players into the NFL that have learned to play with a chip on their shoulder and just get things done. Chuba is a classic OK State player and it served me well last year to believe if the kid got a chance who cares about their free agent RB and I can imagine the new coach liking him too.
(They'll put a star back into the next draft, yes but that isn't common at all)
Chuba has a ceiling but he often falls way down in drafts and now this year I'm often like "oh he's fine there" and select him. Average player or not- with the coach's trust he gets receptions and rush yards to be a nice bye week injury cover. I'll leave the door open a crack that he can develop into something special but I think he is what he is.
(They'll put a star back into the next draft, yes but that isn't common at all)
Chuba has a ceiling but he often falls way down in drafts and now this year I'm often like "oh he's fine there" and select him. Average player or not- with the coach's trust he gets receptions and rush yards to be a nice bye week injury cover. I'll leave the door open a crack that he can develop into something special but I think he is what he is.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Chuba is the perfect Zero RB target. He'll be putting up ho-hum RB2 numbers for 5-6 weeks.
Max Power
Footballguy
I think Chuba has one of the best ADPs out there. I was eyeing him in a dynasty startup a week ago, but the ghost of Miles Sanders ultimately scared me away. Sanders has been looking decent in camp and getting praised by Canales as well. Sanders is getting reps with the first team as well and seemingly has a fresh start with the new staff.
Sanders has enough talent to eat into Hubbard's role and when Brooks is healthy, I don't know how this situation unfolds.
Sanders has enough talent to eat into Hubbard's role and when Brooks is healthy, I don't know how this situation unfolds.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Last year he was more than mediocre. He was flex worthy every week, just about. He was also a fluid receiver IIRC, and with the depth of weapons in Carolina, I don’t see him coming off the field that much even when Brooks comes back.
I’ve also read a few football analysts who are pretty bear-ish on Brooks. One called him a one year wonder. 51 carries combined in his first two years, and then only 187 in his last year? I’m struggling to see why this guy is such a threat to Chubba Hubbards numbers.
I kind of feel like Brooks has more shine by being considered the best of a bad bunch of running backs in this year’s draft. Watching a few of the other rookies now, I’m not so sure that’s even true.
We will see what happens, but I’m still very high on Chuba Hubbard this year.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Chuba pretty handily beat out Miles Sanders last year. But the ghost of Miles Sanders does still loom in that backfield. You are correct.
Brooks will need some time to acclimate and Chuba's receiving and blocking ability probably keeps him in every third down. I figure you get 5-8 weeks as a starter and maybe he's still fine after that as some are in PPR leagues
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Exactly.
I foolishly offered him up in a 16 team PPR league for a LB2. I’m not very deep at linebacker.
I woke up the next morning and immediately rescinded the trade. Thankfully, they did accept it while I was sleeping.
It’s much harder to get a flex worthy, running back than it is to find a linebacker.
Last I read he was doing drills and walk throughs with the team and waiting on full medical clearance which won't be til week 3 or 4.
Panthers optimistic Jonathon Brooks only misses few weeks of 2024 season as rookie RB recovers from torn ACL
Brooks, the first RB taken in the 2024 draft, underwent ACL surgery in November
www.cbssports.com
I guess Chuba's numbers impacted weeks 5-8, progressively less...as long as Brooks doesn't have a setback.
If he's doing drills, walk throughs, and film room then I don't think it'll take too long for a back to be able to contribute. Obviously like anything in FF it's debatable during the summer and I just figure weeks 5-8
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
There’s also the possibility that Brooks struggles in his first season back from the injury. How many times have we seen running backs come back a little bit hesitant? If Carolina is smart, and I’m not quite ready to assert that, they will ease him back in.Last I read he was doing drills and walk throughs with the team and waiting on full medical clearance which won't be til week 3 or 4.
Panthers optimistic Jonathon Brooks only misses few weeks of 2024 season as rookie RB recovers from torn ACL
Brooks, the first RB taken in the 2024 draft, underwent ACL surgery in November
I guess Chuba's numbers impacted weeks 5-8, progressively less...as long as Brooks doesn't have a setback.
If he's doing drills, walk throughs, and film room then I don't think it'll take too long for a back to be able to contribute. Obviously like anything in FF it's debatable during the summer and I just figure weeks 5-8
I really don’t think the Panthers are under the illusion that they’re going to be competing for anything this year, so there’s no point in rushing him back.
Like the Jets last year with Hall, I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see Brooks come back and have limited touches for the first few games, regardless if that’s week five, six, seven, or whatever.
It certainly on the spectrum of possible outcomes that Chuba Hubbard is the starting running back all year for the Panthers. I know the common narrative is about Brooks draft capital, but I believe the situation is significantly more relevant to his usage. If anything, his draft capital just might keep him off the field more this year.
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greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
I cut Sanders in one league 
. Went into my ‘win now.. maybe?’ orphan in a standard , must start two rb league where the best flex is a RB.. as my RB2.
Drinking last years sanders hype was a drink that later caused digestive problems.
I guess maybe I should try to keep an open mind.. maybe he just wasn’t ever healthy. But the Eagles never really made him a featured back so that was never a realistic possibility but I really thought Chuba really just was better.
. Went into my ‘win now.. maybe?’ orphan in a standard , must start two rb league where the best flex is a RB.. as my RB2. Drinking last years sanders hype was a drink that later caused digestive problems.
I guess maybe I should try to keep an open mind.. maybe he just wasn’t ever healthy. But the Eagles never really made him a featured back so that was never a realistic possibility but I really thought Chuba really just was better.
I wouldn’t lose any sleep over cutting Sanders.I cut Sanders in one league
Drinking last years sanders hype was a drink that later caused digestive problems.
I guess maybe I should try to keep an open mind.. maybe he just wasn’t ever healthy. But the Eagles never really made him a featured back so that was never a realistic possibility but I really thought Chuba really just was better.
Chuba is the better player.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Way lower than it should be, IMO.
Who is rolling out Chubba this week?
Everything I read says NO is tough as nails against the run but aren't they more of a good pass D vs run D?
Would think they want to avoid Lattimore.
Read something on rotoworld that NO is more of a "run funnel" D which would be great for Chubba.
Not sure if M. Sanders is at all a thing anymore. Haven't heard his name all preseason.
Trying to decide between Chubba and J. Ford.
Everything I read says NO is tough as nails against the run but aren't they more of a good pass D vs run D?
Would think they want to avoid Lattimore.
Read something on rotoworld that NO is more of a "run funnel" D which would be great for Chubba.
Not sure if M. Sanders is at all a thing anymore. Haven't heard his name all preseason.
Trying to decide between Chubba and J. Ford.
jm192
Footballguy
I rolled him out in multiple places.
It seemed like they gave up on Sanders last year. Brooks out the 1st 4 games. Just seemed like for sure Chuba gets the bulk of the touches.
Also, I thought Canales would do wonders for Bryce. And while it's 1 game against a pretty tough Saints defense, things don't look good.
Now it looks to be a split on a terrible offense. I'll probably hold him to see how week 2 goes, but not feeling super hopeful.
It seemed like they gave up on Sanders last year. Brooks out the 1st 4 games. Just seemed like for sure Chuba gets the bulk of the touches.
Also, I thought Canales would do wonders for Bryce. And while it's 1 game against a pretty tough Saints defense, things don't look good.
Now it looks to be a split on a terrible offense. I'll probably hold him to see how week 2 goes, but not feeling super hopeful.
Agree.
I don't understand why you don't run on NO and keep the pressure on Bryce. 3 lousy carries?
The game was a total disaster so I kinda want to just throw it out the window, but the fact that M. Sanders got more run here is alarming. DIdn't hear a peep about him all preseason and was a complete non factor last season.
Holding for one more week, but not optimistic. This team looks like a trainwreck.
Me too. He’d likely my drop to get Likely.
Terpman22
Footballguy
I know the window is pretty limited with Bryce possibly coming back sometime this season and Brooks eventually coming back healthy, but for this small window, are we confident in him being at least a decent RB2/RB3 play until he turns into a pumpkin by whatever method, at least while Dalton is the QB? Seems the entire offense came to life with just some good/above average/competent QB play. Was definitely on my bench in the only other league I have him.
I don't think Bryce is coming back.
I started him due to the matchup. When the matchup is right definitely starting him again.
He separated big time from M. Sanders and Dalton has given life to this offense.
Brooks probably comes off IR, but I doubt they suddenly give him 100% of the snaps.
I'd say there's a 100% chance I"m starting him at home against a Cinci run D that got run over by NE.
As a Chubba owner, I hope so.
This is why I drafted him in the double digit rounds.
And look who is on the schedule next? The Cinci run D. He's locked in the lineup this week.
The Brooks owner in my league is 0-3. Wouldn't mind acquiring him. That said, I've heard nothing about Brooks return. What is the soonest this guy is eating into Chubba's workload?
Also, I bet M. Sanders is kicked to the curb at the trade deadline.
I think it was said this summer that week five soonest but that they're very open to however long it takes and some discussed week 7 or 8.
Sanders probably doesn't have any trade value in a depressed RB market
Runkle
Footballguy
Carolina declined to open Brooks 21 day return window for this week. Next chance next week.
Not a bad idea. Seems like T. Bigsby is gaining on him.
Funny. I have Chubba and I'm looking to acquire Brooks. Thinking of offering T. Bigsby.
Still think they are going to slow roll Brooks. May not be until like week 10 before Brooks gets meaningful touches. I'd think to start he just replaces M. Sanders role in the offense.
rockaction
Footballguy
This is redraft, isn't it? You had me all worked up. No way in dynasty do you make that deal.
It is redraft. I didn't do it. I wish I had tried. Feel like this window is closed. ETN looks to be the backup going forward.
rockaction
Footballguy
I wouldn't bet the house on that. Wait until you hear what the coaches say when asked about it.
Why CAR didn't run Hubbard more early is baffling.x.com
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RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Chubba has been an amazing sneaky waiver wire pickup for me. I also have Brooks on IR but I honestly just want things to stay as is and for Chubba to keep churning out these types of games.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Feels like no one believed me this off-season.
I really hope CAR is dumb enough to move Chuba at the deadline after Brooks comes back. Send him to Dallas. They need him.
I really hope CAR is dumb enough to move Chuba at the deadline after Brooks comes back. Send him to Dallas. They need him.
I have Brooks stashed, but it's in a keeper league. Honestly wasn't expecting him to do much this year.
However, some people talk like he is going to be a league winner down the stretch.
Balco
Footballguy
Chuba has looked really good this season - I saw the twitter post where his td run is the fastest run of his career.
Part of me wonders if Brooks gets a lot of run because Panthers aren’t going anywhere. But maybe Panthers want to take it really slow with Brooks because they aren’t going anywhere and why risk injury? Give Brooks 5 carries a game to get him back into game flow and then let him compete for lead back next season (I think Chuba is UFA next year?)
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I dont see giving him that little run if he gets a clean bill of health - he needs to get used to NFL speed and they also need to sell seats/hope for next year. Cant see keeping one of their top young offensive weapons from getting solid play. but we are all guessing at this point - moot until he even gets activated to practice - but we all can agree hes a very nice keeper for next yr
