RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire, KC (3 Viewers)

[JohnnyU]

Had a 50 yard run and a 21 yard reception. 118 Total yards with a few minutes to play.

Still going to start Dillon over him.

 

[EBF]

They just don't use him much. We've seen the touch numbers through two weeks. We saw the playoffs last year. He's a good player, but getting him the ball is not a priority for KC. He's just there to supplement Mahomes. Can't argue with results for KC, but also leaves you wondering how he'd perform with more volume. Feels like that's the only thing holding him back from being a real force in FF because the efficiency is solid and the versatility is there.

My prediction going into the season was that KC's passing offense would suffer big with the loss of Hill. Didn't happen in week one, but tonight they were not super efficient. Just 6.7 yards per attempt for Mahomes. Kelce kept relatively quiet. Will be something to monitor moving forward because if they can't reliably throw for high YPA then you may see more touches for Clyde, but the long-standing trend is that he's not the focus of the offense. That makes it scary to trot him out there as a regular weekly starter in FF.

 

[Hankmoody]

They just don't use him much. We've seen the touch numbers through two weeks. We saw the playoffs last year. He's a good player, but getting him the ball is not a priority for KC. He's just there to supplement Mahomes. Can't argue with results for KC, but also leaves you wondering how he'd perform with more volume. Feels like that's the only thing holding him back from being a real force in FF because the efficiency is solid and the versatility is there.

Andy Reid has never known how to use a RB.

 

[rockaction]

Feels like that's the only thing holding him back from being a real force in FF because the efficiency is solid and the versatility is there.

He was 6-19 rushing the ball at one point. In two deep looks. That's not going to make anybody want to give him the ball.

 

[EBF]

McCoy and Westbrook were FF gods though...

That's what's so surprising. They go and use a 1st on Clyde. He flashes solid ability in spot duty.

Instead of feeding him the ball, they give him 8-10 carries per game.

You can't criticize it when they are winning at a high level, but to me it's been surprising.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Doesn’t look amazing but he’s getting it done so far. Tonight they used McKinnon pretty liberally and Pacheco only when Clyde was banged up. But I’m OK with the usage if it keeps him healthy

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

He's so slow running the football. There's a noticeable difference between him and either of McKinnon/Pacheco. He's lucky he's at the head of the group. Dude isn't a bellcow talent.

 

[SoBeDad]

He's so slow running the football. There's a noticeable difference between him and either of McKinnon/Pacheco. He's lucky he's at the head of the group. Dude isn't a bellcow talent.

Decent vision, only 2 fumbles in over 2 years. Not big, not fast, but plays for a special offense and is their #1 back. His 52 yard run saved the day for FF players, but he didn't have any run over 20 yards last year.

 

[SoBeDad]

Sell High?

 

[dmac37]

The key to CEH returning FF value is in the receiving game. If Andy makes him like the other RB's in his offense past years = involved in the passing game it will be PPR gold.

 

[Faust]

Clyde Edwards-Helaire rushed eight times for 74 yards in the Chiefs' Week 2 win over the Chargers, adding four catches for 44 additional yards.​

The 118 yards from scrimmage were the fourth most of CEH's star-crossed career. 52 of them came on a fourth quarter rumble where Edwards-Helaire emerged victorious from a scrum and seemed not to know what to do with his hands and feet in the open field. He managed to tack on some YAC all the same. It helped mitigate some red zone frustration after CEH was out-touched 3-0 inside the 20 by Jerick McKinnon. That included a nine-yard passing score for McKinnon and two-yard carry from the Chargers' three. CEH did out-touch McKinnon 12-6 on the whole. Now box score productive in both a non-competitive blowout and grinding four-quarter affair, Edwards-Helaire is certainly off to a strong fantasy start after last year's disappointments. Even with McKinnon in the fold, Edwards-Helaire will have RB2 juice for Week 3 vs. the Colts.
Sep 15, 2022, 11:32 PM ET

 

[TampaMike19]

Rich man’s singletary

 

[cdclopper]

Rich man’s singletary

He's a meth addict's ekeler.

 

[travdogg]

They just don't use him much. We've seen the touch numbers through two weeks. We saw the playoffs last year. He's a good player, but getting him the ball is not a priority for KC. He's just there to supplement Mahomes. Can't argue with results for KC, but also leaves you wondering how he'd perform with more volume. Feels like that's the only thing holding him back from being a real force in FF because the efficiency is solid and the versatility is there.

There's certainly a 2-sided coin argument, where the other side is that he's efficient because he sees limited volume, and if he saw more work, he'd be a lot less efficient. Don't know until you try I guess, but it seems like the Chiefs may feel that way.

 

[cdclopper]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf. I feel like Andy Ried would rather have Mahomes pass the ball 40+ times a game then let this little dude with short little legs run the ball real slow like. Lets not forget this Pacheco, who's the back up for now, is faster whilst weighing more. It's only a matter of time.

 

[Mitchie]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf. I feel like Andy Ried would rather have Mahomes pass the ball 40+ times a game then let this little dude with short little legs run the ball real slow like. Lets not forget this Pacheco, who's the back up for now, is faster whilst weighing more. It's only a matter of time.

Ever hear of a guy named Maurice Jones-Drew?

 

[cdclopper]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf. I feel like Andy Ried would rather have Mahomes pass the ball 40+ times a game then let this little dude with short little legs run the ball real slow like. Lets not forget this Pacheco, who's the back up for now, is faster whilst weighing more. It's only a matter of time.

Ever hear of a guy named Maurice Jones-Drew?

He moved his legs fast at least.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Rich man’s singletary

I think they are pretty comparable from a running standpoint and their situations are very similar. CEH gets the edge with the passing game but I like this comparison.

 

[SayWhat?]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf. I feel like Andy Ried would rather have Mahomes pass the ball 40+ times a game then let this little dude with short little legs run the ball real slow like. Lets not forget this Pacheco, who's the back up for now, is faster whilst weighing more. It's only a matter of time.

Ever hear of a guy named Maurice Jones-Drew?

Please don’t compare those two. They’re at nearly opposite ends of the talent spectrum.

 

[Kevrunner]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf. I feel like Andy Ried would rather have Mahomes pass the ball 40+ times a game then let this little dude with short little legs run the ball real slow like. Lets not forget this Pacheco, who's the back up for now, is faster whilst weighing more. It's only a matter of time.

Ever hear of a guy named Maurice Jones-Drew?

The big difference between MJD and CEH is MJD would have scored on the breakaway, he wouldn’t have been easily run down.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf. I feel like Andy Ried would rather have Mahomes pass the ball 40+ times a game then let this little dude with short little legs run the ball real slow like. Lets not forget this Pacheco, who's the back up for now, is faster whilst weighing more. It's only a matter of time.

Ever hear of a guy named Maurice Jones-Drew?

The big difference between MJD and CEH is MJD would have scored on the breakaway, he wouldn’t have been easily run down.

MJD was much faster and much stronger than CEH.

 

[Mitchie]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf. I feel like Andy Ried would rather have Mahomes pass the ball 40+ times a game then let this little dude with short little legs run the ball real slow like. Lets not forget this Pacheco, who's the back up for now, is faster whilst weighing more. It's only a matter of time.

Ever hear of a guy named Maurice Jones-Drew?

The big difference between MJD and CEH is MJD would have scored on the breakaway, he wouldn’t have been easily run down.

MJD was much faster and much stronger than CEH.

That's fine the point was about him being close to a midget.

 

[candian fantasy guy]

All he’s done is ball out 2 weeks in a row. Congrats if you drafted him at ADP, it was a steal.

He’s a great value so far to anyone that went hero RB and grabbed this guy after stuffing the locker with top end WR and TE.

 

[Cjw_55106]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf.

Only 10? If he was 10" taller, he'd be amongst the tallest RBs of all time. Very odd comparison for you to come up with. He's not close to dwarf territory. Ray Rice was also 5'8. As was previously noted, MJD and Darren Sproles were even shorter. Could be a talent or speed issue, but it isnt a height issue.

Note: ' is feet, " is inches.

 

[chad in Indy]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf. I feel like Andy Ried would rather have Mahomes pass the ball 40+ times a game then let this little dude with short little legs run the ball real slow like. Lets not forget this Pacheco, who's the back up for now, is faster whilst weighing more. It's only a matter of time.

Ever hear of a guy named Maurice Jones-Drew?

The big difference between MJD and CEH is MJD would have scored on the breakaway, he wouldn’t have been easily run down.

MJD was much faster and much stronger than CEH.

That's fine the point was about him being close to a midget.

Please try to refrain from the derogatory remarks. I'm sure you meant nothing by it, but that word is highly offensive to those with dwarfism.

 

[MTskibum]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf. I feel like Andy Ried would rather have Mahomes pass the ball 40+ times a game then let this little dude with short little legs run the ball real slow like. Lets not forget this Pacheco, who's the back up for now, is faster whilst weighing more. It's only a matter of time.

10 feet!!

 

[dschuler]

Looks great to me two weeks in for a fifth or six round pick. Say what you want, but he’s outscored Ekeler through the first two weeks and is an RB1 after week 2. If he doesn’t get stepped on, he might have been the one in the game for the touchdown.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf. I feel like Andy Ried would rather have Mahomes pass the ball 40+ times a game then let this little dude with short little legs run the ball real slow like. Lets not forget this Pacheco, who's the back up for now, is faster whilst weighing more. It's only a matter of time.

10 feet!!

We should bring Clyde to Stonehenge

 

[tricky92]

All he’s done is ball out 2 weeks in a row. Congrats if you drafted him at ADP, it was a steal.

He’s a great value so far to anyone that went hero RB and grabbed this guy after stuffing the locker with top end WR and TE.

He went at the end of the 4th in my league (12 teams) and it looked like a mistake. So far, he's producing relatively to where he went. And, he looked pretty fast last night, but definitely gassed in the middle of that long run.

 

[tricky92]

At 5-8, CEH is only 10' taller than a certified dwarf. I feel like Andy Ried would rather have Mahomes pass the ball 40+ times a game then let this little dude with short little legs run the ball real slow like. Lets not forget this Pacheco, who's the back up for now, is faster whilst weighing more. It's only a matter of time.

Ever hear of a guy named Maurice Jones-Drew?

The big difference between MJD and CEH is MJD would have scored on the breakaway, he wouldn’t have been easily run down.

MJD was much faster and much stronger than CEH.

That's fine the point was about him being close to a midget.

Please try to refrain from the derogatory remarks. I'm sure you meant nothing by it, but that word is highly offensive to those with dwarfism.

You know, a midget is actually entire different from a dwarf, right?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

he looked pretty fast last night,

I disagree with that. He looked slow to me, but did a very good job getting what was blocked.

 

[tricky92]

he looked pretty fast last night,

I disagree with that. He looked slow to me, but did a very good job getting what was blocked.

I honestly thought he looked fast through the line and in to the secondary on that long run, but gassed after about 25-30 yards.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

he looked pretty fast last night,

I disagree with that. He looked slow to me, but did a very good job getting what was blocked.

I honestly thought he looked fast through the line and in to the secondary on that long run, but gassed after about 25-30 yards.

He showed good burst on that run (one of the only times) but got caught from behind by 2 different defenders on that run. Most of the time I was thinking if he was a bit faster that one would have went for a nice gain.

 

[travdogg]

Rich man’s singletary

Man, I wish I'd thought of this, spot on.

 

[candian fantasy guy]

he looked pretty fast last night,

I disagree with that. He looked slow to me, but did a very good job getting what was blocked.

How did you think Ekeler looked last night?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

he looked pretty fast last night,

I disagree with that. He looked slow to me, but did a very good job getting what was blocked.

How did you think Ekeler looked last night?

He was bottled up most of the night until the end of the game where he exploded a bit.

I don't understand the point.

 

[ahartig]

The big difference between MJD and CEH is MJD would have scored on the breakaway, he wouldn’t have been easily run down.

Didn't CEH slide to stay inbounds/keep the clock running?

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Seems to me he could have taken it for 10-20 more yards maybe even to the house but realized it was better for the team to slide and waste time. Heads up move.

And what the heck is up with his helmet????? Thx Reddit: https://content.riddell.com/axiom/

 

[chad in Indy]

Ever hear of a guy named Maurice Jones-Drew?

The big difference between MJD and CEH is MJD would have scored on the breakaway, he wouldn’t have been easily run down.

MJD was much faster and much stronger than CEH.

That's fine the point was about him being close to a midget.

Please try to refrain from the derogatory remarks. I'm sure you meant nothing by it, but that word is highly offensive to those with dwarfism.

You know, a midget is actually entire different from a dwarf, right?

No, it's not. It's a slur for dwarf. My daughter has dwarfism so I am speaking from experience. If you have the time, here is a link to a statement directly from the LPA:
https://www.lpaonline.org/the-m-word

The statement also references the time Marvin Lewis inappropriately used the word on national tv (followed by his national apology). I don't want to detract from the thread, but I also wanted to make sure people have awareness. If you want to discuss this topic further, you can dm me.


Back to CEH - I thought he looked okay. But I think last nights game is going to be the norm (60-75 total yards and 35%-40% chance of a TD). I think week 1's multiple TD games will not

 

[Mongidig]

Sell High?

Iast week was your chance unless you cant take advantage of someone who is just looking at his fantasy points.

 

[DocHolliday]

All he’s done is ball out 2 weeks in a row. Congrats if you drafted him at ADP, it was a steal.

He’s a great value so far to anyone that went hero RB and grabbed this guy after stuffing the locker with top end WR and TE.

He went at the end of the 4th in my league (12 teams) and it looked like a mistake. So far, he's producing relatively to where he went. And, he looked pretty fast last night, but definitely gassed in the middle of that long run.

Fell to me in the 9th round of a 10 team PPR league. So far I am thrilled. Week 1 was probably the ceiling and last night will likely be a normal week.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Sell Mortimer, SELL!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

last night will likely be a normal week.

He doesn’t normally break long runs.

I’d say last night minus the 50+ run where he got tuckered out and slid (1st time I’ve ever seen a RB do that) will be closer to a normal week.

 

[DocHolliday]

last night will likely be a normal week.

He doesn’t normally break long runs.

I’d say last night minus the 50+ run where he got tuckered out and slid (1st time I’ve ever seen a RB do that) will be closer to a normal week.

So he’s not scoring any more TDS this season?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

last night will likely be a normal week.

He doesn’t normally break long runs.

I’d say last night minus the 50+ run where he got tuckered out and slid (1st time I’ve ever seen a RB do that) will be closer to a normal week.

So he’s not scoring any more TDS this season?

There’s a greater than zero chance of that being true.

Especially if they keep bringing in Jet in goal to go situations.

 

[Mongidig]

last night will likely be a normal week.

He doesn’t normally break long runs.

I’d say last night minus the 50+ run where he got tuckered out and slid (1st time I’ve ever seen a RB do that) will be closer to a normal week.

I think it was more about not wanting ti get hit and fumble than being tuckered out.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

last night will likely be a normal week.

He doesn’t normally break long runs.

I’d say last night minus the 50+ run where he got tuckered out and slid (1st time I’ve ever seen a RB do that) will be closer to a normal week.

I think it was more about not wanting ti get hit and fumble than being tuckered out.

Half truth.

I said it in the game topic - he ran out of gas, & both defenders were catching up to him, so he covered the ball and slid.

Yes he was preventing a fumble. Yes he ran out of gas. Both of those things are 100% true.

 

[candian fantasy guy]

he looked pretty fast last night,

I disagree with that. He looked slow to me, but did a very good job getting what was blocked.

How did you think Ekeler looked last night?

He was bottled up most of the night until the end of the game where he exploded a bit.

I don't understand the point.

Just curious how you saw the other guy and how objective you are.

Thank you

 

[SoBeDad]

last night will likely be a normal week.

He doesn’t normally break long runs.

I’d say last night minus the 50+ run where he got tuckered out and slid (1st time I’ve ever seen a RB do that) will be closer to a normal week.

Last year he was in select company of just a few RBs with over 100 carries, and none over 20 yards. But, he has averaged about 4.3 ypc due to 1) Mahomes 2) he may have good vision.

 

[menobrown]

And what the heck is up with his helmet?????

I'm guessing that's a RB specific helmet and same one worn by Zeke. After watching 3 games between them there is still something about them I can't get used to.

 

[menobrown]

But, he has averaged about 4.3 ypc due to 1) Mahomes 2) he may have good vision.

And because of #1 facing the least amount of 8 man boxes in the league. Also he runs behind a really good OL.