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RB Dalvin Cook, DAL (3 Viewers)

Dalvin Cook rushed 15 times for 60 yards, adding six receptions for 10 yards on seven targets in the Vikings' Wild Card Round loss to the Giants.

Cook was bottled up in this game, as has been the case for much of the season. Cook finished RB10 in fantasy points in the regular season, but his days of being a difference-making fantasy running back may be at an end. Per NFL Next Gen, only four running backs had a lower success rate than Cook in 2022, and he finished RB41 in rush yards over expected per attempt. Cook should be back with the Vikings in 2023, although it's worth noting that his contract makes him tradeable if the Vikings opt to rebuild in the offseason. More likely, he will return as the Vikings starter in 2023. However, with Alexander Mattison, an unrestricted free agent is quite likely that the Vikings add to their backfield. Cook's 2023 competition could be more difficult to relegate to pure backup duties.
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Minn can save $7M by cutting him and Mattison is a FA who will probably sign for less than that amount....I could see Minny moving on.
It would be what's best for the team longterm. Hate to say but I don't think he is special anymore.
As a Cook owner - I always thought there wasnt that much of a drop when MAttson would come in....as hes familar with the system it makes sense to me. They are $24M over the cap as of now so you gotta figure they either cut or rework Cooks deal.
 
As a Cook owner - I always thought there wasnt that much of a drop when MAttson would come in....as hes familar with the system it makes sense to me. They are $24M over the cap as of now so you gotta figure they either cut or rework Cooks deal.
They have to, right? I don't know if he was ever worth a large deal but he certainly isn't now.
 

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Dalvin Cook underwent shoulder surgery.​

Cook suffered shoulder injuries in 2014, 2016, 2019, and 2021 before again hurting his shoulder during the 2022 season. Cook didn't miss any time in 2022 while posting his most inefficient season as a pro. Cook should enter his age-28 season at full health after having surgery so early in the offseason. Alexander Mattison, meanwhile, is a free agent who should draw interest from running back-needy teams this offseason.
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SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Feb 14, 2023, 11:09 AM ET
 

ESPN's Kevin Seifert writes Dalvin Cook's offseason shoulder surgery complicates the idea of releasing him.​

$2 million of Cook's salary for 2023 is guaranteed for injury, so if the Vikings release Cook and he fails a physical, they would owe him $2 million. It also means the Vikings may save only $5.9 million if they release him instead of $7.9 million. "A release was the likeliest outcome before the shoulder surgery. Now, it’s a matter of whether the Vikings would be willing to eat the $2 million to get cap relief," Seifert writes. Kwesi Adofo-Mensah would not commit to bringing back Cook when asked at the NFL Combine.
SOURCE: ESPN
Mar 2, 2023 at 4:21 PM ET
 
Honestly, the offense hasn't missed Cook at all when he's been out. Mattison (who is underrated in my opinion) is probably a better option for the price.
I traded for Mariotta on the cheap before he signed in ATL, then mid-season flipped MM to a contender for Mattison & Bell. If Mattison gets signed by MIN it will be a massive profit.

That said, I’ve read/heard they really like Ty Chandler?

He’s a sophomore - he’d be a cheap backup if they sign Mattison. I can’t imagine a team that sees itself in a window trusting the offense to a dude with 20 career carries.
 
Wish Dalvin the best as you release him, and welcome Bijan to the team, this is an easy call
They are in the range where it would make sense to draft him - and while they’re not likely to win a SuperBowl, they do have a window in a weak NFC. That’s a nice landing spot for him if Cook is gone.
Agree its the right range, but man, I'd be really shocked if the Vikings didn't go defense. They could use a guy at every level.
 
Agree its the right range, but man, I'd be really shocked if the Vikings didn't go defense. They could use a guy at every level.
I agree with Daniel Jeremiah here. He said, approximately:

I get that RBs are plentiful, everyone knows the value argument. You can get a RB in the 4th. You can't get a BIjan.

TOp 10 pick, I want a QB or an Edge. Picking 24? Absolutely nothing wrong with getting one of the top 5 players in the draft, I don't care what position.
 
Agree its the right range, but man, I'd be really shocked if the Vikings didn't go defense. They could use a guy at every level.
I agree with Daniel Jeremiah here. He said, approximately:

I get that RBs are plentiful, everyone knows the value argument. You can get a RB in the 4th. You can't get a BIjan.

TOp 10 pick, I want a QB or an Edge. Picking 24? Absolutely nothing wrong with getting one of the top 5 players in the draft, I don't care what position.
I'm not making an argument 24 is too high for Bijan, I'm saying the 31st ranked defense from last year needs help more than the 7th ranked offense does, even if they do dump Dalvin.
 
I'm not making an argument 24 is too high for Bijan, I'm saying the 31st ranked defense from last year needs help more than the 7th ranked offense does, even if they do dump Dalvin
Oh, I gotcha.

I think that actually what Jeremiah meant is that talent like that is rarely available at 24. First round picks are 50/50 at best, right? And late first rounders are worse. What percentage of guys taken after 20 will get the 5th round option picked up? 40%? Maybe 20%. Depends on the strength of the draft.

But what percentage would you put on Bijan? 70%? 90?

There are no sure things in the draft. But Bijan is as close as it gets.

This is all theoretical, I assume he's gone by then. There aren't 20 first round talents in this draft, someone will happily make the move
 
Mattison has looked OK when he was in a complimentary role, but to me he has been underwhelming when he was the lead dog.
He bombed his 1st start in place of Cook in 2020 against the Falcons, and I think that game has stuck with people, but he's been mostly pretty good other than that. His stat lines in games Cook has missed has been:

2020 Falcons 10-26 rushing 1-4 receiving
2020 Lions 21-95-1 rushing 3-50-1 receiving
2021 Seahawks 26-112 rushing 6-59 receiving
2021 Lions 25-113 rushing 7-40-1 receiving
2021 Lions 22-90-1 rushing 3-34 receiving
2021 Rams 13-41-1 rushing 3-29 receiving

So his 6 starts produced an average of 20-80-.5 rushing, and 4-36-.33 receiving for a 17 game average of 340-1360-9 rushing and 68-612-6 receiving. While that workload isn't likely sustainable over 17 games, that's still pretty solid in my book.

Cook has a better YPC, because he breaks some big plays, but I really think Mattison might be the better overall player, especially considering price tag. Also seems like the Vikings want to be a pass first team under O'Connell, and Cook hasn't been an asset there in the last 2 seasons.

Ultimately, I don't think either guy is anything special, but considering the Vikings cap issues and holes on defense (going from Donatell to Flores at DC is a good start) I think Cook is very expendable, and Mattison is likely cheap to retain, and has had success.
 
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Agree its the right range, but man, I'd be really shocked if the Vikings didn't go defense. They could use a guy at every level.
I agree with Daniel Jeremiah here. He said, approximately:

I get that RBs are plentiful, everyone knows the value argument. You can get a RB in the 4th. You can't get a BIjan.

TOp 10 pick, I want a QB or an Edge. Picking 24? Absolutely nothing wrong with getting one of the top 5 players in the draft, I don't care what position.
I'm not making an argument 24 is too high for Bijan, I'm saying the 31st ranked defense from last year needs help more than the 7th ranked offense does, even if they do dump Dalvin.

I am not saying they should draft Bijan, but I am not on board with the premise that they should draft D because the D was worse than the O.
You don't draft for need. Draft the best guys. It's not a bad thing to make a strength even stronger.
 
Agree with some of the other guys in here that Mattison has been very effective as a lead back. He's been one of the absolute best handcuffs over the last few years because you knew you had an RB1 if Dalvin went down.
It would definitely make a lot of sense if they give Mattison a decent enough 2-3 year deal with the expectation he is the starter, let Cook go, draft a guy later and/or sign a vet RB, and shoot for the stars on D in free agency while going BPA in the draft.
They have a window to win right now. It's open s few inches, and will probably slam shut in two years.
I am not a Vikes fan, but man, go for it guys, I want a super bowl parade titled "ya like dat?"
 

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports "multiple teams believe" the Vikings have had trade talks centered around moving Dalvin Cook.​

That's an interesting phrasing of this rumor, as the Vikings wouldn't appear to have an obvious suitor for Cook. Cook's recent shoulder surgery reportedly is complicating the idea to straight-up release him, as some of his salary in 2023 is guaranteed for injury. Fowler also reports the Vikings want to re-sign Alexander Mattison as he is "poised for a starter's role somewhere."
SOURCE: ESPN
Mar 12, 2023, 1:05 PM ET
 
Guy looked like he lost the juice last season.
Even in 2021 he looked like he was on the downswing, other than that Thursday Night game against a Steelers D that was hemorrhaging rushing production at the time.

Other than CMC and Aaron Jones, that whole 2017 RB class seems to be falling off about the same time. Fournette, Cook, Mixon, Kamara, and Hunt.
 
Guess I'm the only one seeing a potential bargain here. He still has it. Plays through injury. He has been playing for a coach who is trying to prove he's the next big thing by force feeding JJ.

In the right situation, Cook can still be an RB1.
 

The Miami Herald's Barry Jackson reports the Dolphins are "monitoring" Dalvin Cook's potential availability.

The all-in Dolphins are among the teams keeping tabs on whether the Vikings are willing to part with Cook, who has three years left on his contract and is due to make $10.4 million in 2023. ESPN last week reported multiple NFL teams have engaged in trade talks for Cook. Minnesota reportedly wants to re-sign Alexander Mattison, who would be the presumed starter if Cook is dealt in the coming days or weeks. Cook in 2022 recorded his lowest yards per carry of his six-year career.
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SOURCE: Barry Jackson on Twitter
Mar 14, 2023 at 10:26 AM ET
 

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports "multiple teams believe" the Vikings have had trade talks centered around moving Dalvin Cook.​

That's an interesting phrasing of this rumor, as the Vikings wouldn't appear to have an obvious suitor for Cook. Cook's recent shoulder surgery reportedly is complicating the idea to straight-up release him, as some of his salary in 2023 is guaranteed for injury. Fowler also reports the Vikings want to re-sign Alexander Mattison as he is "poised for a starter's role somewhere."
SOURCE: ESPN
Mar 12, 2023, 1:05 PM ET
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Rumor: An AFC team is closing in on a deal to acquire Minnesota Viking’s running back Dalvin Cook. A deal could be in place very soon for the three-time pro bowl half back.
 

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports "multiple teams believe" the Vikings have had trade talks centered around moving Dalvin Cook.​

That's an interesting phrasing of this rumor, as the Vikings wouldn't appear to have an obvious suitor for Cook. Cook's recent shoulder surgery reportedly is complicating the idea to straight-up release him, as some of his salary in 2023 is guaranteed for injury. Fowler also reports the Vikings want to re-sign Alexander Mattison as he is "poised for a starter's role somewhere."
SOURCE: ESPN
Mar 12, 2023, 1:05 PM ET
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Rumor: An AFC team is closing in on a deal to acquire Minnesota Viking’s running back Dalvin Cook. A deal could be in place very soon for the three-time pro bowl half back.
Off the top of my head, thinking Buffalo (brother duo), Cincy (if they move on from Mixon), or Houston (if Ryans wants his own guy).

ETA: all that said, it says a rumor and we know what those are worth these days.
 
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ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports "multiple teams believe" the Vikings have had trade talks centered around moving Dalvin Cook.​

That's an interesting phrasing of this rumor, as the Vikings wouldn't appear to have an obvious suitor for Cook. Cook's recent shoulder surgery reportedly is complicating the idea to straight-up release him, as some of his salary in 2023 is guaranteed for injury. Fowler also reports the Vikings want to re-sign Alexander Mattison as he is "poised for a starter's role somewhere."
SOURCE: ESPN
Mar 12, 2023, 1:05 PM ET
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Vikings want Bijan Robinson. I can feel it.
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Rumor: An AFC team is closing in on a deal to acquire Minnesota Viking’s running back Dalvin Cook. A deal could be in place very soon for the three-time pro bowl half back.
Off the top of my head, thinking Buffalo (brother duo), Cincy (if they move on from Mixon), or Houston (if Ryans wants his own guy).

ETA: all that said, it says a rumor and we know what those are worth these days.
Wouldn't rule out KC either, but Buffalo certainly seems like the best fit.
 

NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports Dalvin Cook is "making excellent progress" in his recovery from offseason shoulder surgery.​

The positive news surrounding Cook's recovery is worth noting for multiple reasons. On one hand, it spells good news for the Vikings if their plan was to rely on Cook once more for the 2023 season, as he's been one of the better running backs in the league when healthy. Cook has battled through this shoulder injury for the better part of three seasons but could enter next season fully healthy. On the other hand, his shoulder surgery was said to complicate his release, as a failed physical would require the team to pay an additional $2 million to cut him. Cook is scheduled to make $10.4 million this season, but the Vikings could save $7.9 million if they were to release him with a passed physical. Some running back-needy teams could entertain a trade for the soon-to-be 28-year-old back once he's determined to be fully-recovered.
SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Apr 3, 2023, 12:12 PM ET
 

Asked about Dalvin Cook being on the roster this season, Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah said "conversations are always ongoing with him."

In other words, not a yes. Adofo-Mensah also said when asked about committing to Alexander Mattison this offseason that "In theory I think they could exist, of course" about Mattison and Cook in the same backfield. It sounds like both players are going to be held into the draft as potential trade assets for Minnesota.
SOURCE: Kevin Seifert on Twitter
Apr 13, 2023 at 4:27 PM ET
 

Asked about Dalvin Cook being on the roster this season, Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah said "conversations are always ongoing with him."

In other words, not a yes. Adofo-Mensah also said when asked about committing to Alexander Mattison this offseason that "In theory I think they could exist, of course" about Mattison and Cook in the same backfield. It sounds like both players are going to be held into the draft as potential trade assets for Minnesota.
SOURCE: Kevin Seifert on Twitter
Apr 13, 2023 at 4:27 PM ET
Cook getting traded or released with Mattison taking over would just make my whole off-season spectacular.

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ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports "multiple teams believe" the Vikings have had trade talks centered around moving Dalvin Cook.​

That's an interesting phrasing of this rumor, as the Vikings wouldn't appear to have an obvious suitor for Cook. Cook's recent shoulder surgery reportedly is complicating the idea to straight-up release him, as some of his salary in 2023 is guaranteed for injury. Fowler also reports the Vikings want to re-sign Alexander Mattison as he is "poised for a starter's role somewhere."
SOURCE: ESPN
Mar 12, 2023, 1:05 PM ET
NFL Draft Blitz
@NFLDraftBlitz
Vikings want Bijan Robinson. I can feel it.
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Vikings Validated
@vikingvalidated
Rumor: An AFC team is closing in on a deal to acquire Minnesota Viking’s running back Dalvin Cook. A deal could be in place very soon for the three-time pro bowl half back.
Off the top of my head, thinking Buffalo (brother duo), Cincy (if they move on from Mixon), or Houston (if Ryans wants his own guy).

ETA: all that said, it says a rumor and we know what those are worth these days.
I would have thought Buffalo was a great landing spot until they signed Harris. He's a really good (underrated) back and I think that knocks Dalvin out of the Buffalo equation. Bengals make the most sense since Mixon seems to be on the way out.

I think his FF value is highest if he stays in Minnesota. But he would have to take a pretty big pay cut for that to happen.
 

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports "multiple teams believe" the Vikings have had trade talks centered around moving Dalvin Cook.​

That's an interesting phrasing of this rumor, as the Vikings wouldn't appear to have an obvious suitor for Cook. Cook's recent shoulder surgery reportedly is complicating the idea to straight-up release him, as some of his salary in 2023 is guaranteed for injury. Fowler also reports the Vikings want to re-sign Alexander Mattison as he is "poised for a starter's role somewhere."
SOURCE: ESPN
Mar 12, 2023, 1:05 PM ET
NFL Draft Blitz
@NFLDraftBlitz
Vikings want Bijan Robinson. I can feel it.
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Vikings Validated
@vikingvalidated
Rumor: An AFC team is closing in on a deal to acquire Minnesota Viking’s running back Dalvin Cook. A deal could be in place very soon for the three-time pro bowl half back.
Off the top of my head, thinking Buffalo (brother duo), Cincy (if they move on from Mixon), or Houston (if Ryans wants his own guy).

ETA: all that said, it says a rumor and we know what those are worth these days.
I would have thought Buffalo was a great landing spot until they signed Harris. He's a really good (underrated) back and I think that knocks Dalvin out of the Buffalo equation. Bengals make the most sense since Mixon seems to be on the way out.

I think his FF value is highest if he stays in Minnesota. But he would have to take a pretty big pay cut for that to happen.
Seems clear MIN doesn’t want to pay him & they save what, ~$8MM by trading/releasing him?

I think he’s gone.

Although I did read that his shoulder surgery throws a kink into that, because if he doesn’t pass a physical the Vikes are on the hook for another ~$2MM
 
Cook getting traded or released with Mattison taking over would just make my whole off-season spectacular.
The outcomes I see for Dalvin will be either traded, cut or taking a paycut.

I'm pulling for Mattison to rise to the top but would expect a day 2 RB to join him, with a chance of Bijan though my guess right now is the Vikings are going to end up moving back in round one since they only have 5 picks.

Again I'm hopeful for Mattison but reason I see them moving on from Dalvin and I'm not optimistic that Mattison is going to ascend to a feature back type role is some comments that Kevin O'Connell was making a few weeks ago. He was talking about ways to work to free up Jefferson, who slumped a bit near the end of the year, and one thing he was saying was that he thought some of the problems in the passing game were due to problems in the run game. Said something about the way defenses were playing them was conducive to running and they were not maximizing it and also not running well was putting to much pressure on Cousins. He did not call out any RB's, one can argue he was laying blame at blocking, but hearing that it sure did not give me a ton of confidence their starting RB next year is on the team though I tend to think Mattison should be a 1B type at worse for any rookie other then Bijan
 
Cook getting traded or released with Mattison taking over would just make my whole off-season spectacular.
The outcomes I see for Dalvin will be either traded, cut or taking a paycut.

I'm pulling for Mattison to rise to the top but would expect a day 2 RB to join him, with a chance of Bijan though my guess right now is the Vikings are going to end up moving back in round one since they only have 5 picks.

Again I'm hopeful for Mattison but reason I see them moving on from Dalvin and I'm not optimistic that Mattison is going to ascend to a feature back type role is some comments that Kevin O'Connell was making a few weeks ago. He was talking about ways to work to free up Jefferson, who slumped a bit near the end of the year, and one thing he was saying was that he thought some of the problems in the passing game were due to problems in the run game. Said something about the way defenses were playing them was conducive to running and they were not maximizing it and also not running well was putting to much pressure on Cousins. He did not call out any RB's, one can argue he was laying blame at blocking, but hearing that it sure did not give me a ton of confidence their starting RB next year is on the team though I tend to think Mattison should be a 1B type at worse for any rookie other then Bijan
Don’t disagree - I paid Mariotta for Mattison, in the league I have ETN, and will likely be drafting Bijan/Charbonet - so if I get RBBC FF RB3-4 value out of him I’ll be stoked. That would represent a profit considering MM isn’t exactly relevant.

I don’t believe he’ll be a feature back either, but I do believe he’s capable.
 

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